So initially I was having trouble getting it to re-root with qemu, and eventually I did however get it rooted again. I have root access and everything is fine other than the fact that I can no longer open the Google play store. I have uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled. Im getting irritated, I have followed these boards since September without needing to ask for help but also never had an issue with my kindle fire hd 7'' up until that last sabotaging that amazon decided to do. Perhaps someone with the same problem can benefit also if we can figure it out because I noticed someone with a similar issue but didn't want to hijack the thread. Thanks in advance :good:
I've looked through dozens of threads so please forgive me if I'm duplicating.
I had previously rooted my KFHD7. I used Titanium Backup to freeze some apps (like Silk) and I used LBE Security Master to forbid the stock Amazon apps (including system apps) from accessing the Internet (after I noticed Silk being 'un-frozen' and Amazon Video being reinstalled).
So this morning (don't know what possessed me) I allowed all the Amazon apps access the Internet just to see if there were any updates etc. - next thing I knew my Kindle was going all weird so I rebooted - only to find all the frozen apps defrosted and other stock apps reinstalled - and root removed - the SU binary was gone as was the actual SU app - as were Google Play and some other apps - I kid you not - I don't wear a tin foil hat - Amazon went in and effectively destroyed my Kindle by defrosting/reinstalling/upgrading their apps and un-rooting my device.
Anyhow, I decided to re-root.
I chose - 2 Install Permanent Root with Superuser from the Kindle Fire Utility
Last thing I saw on the screen it was installing FFF (FireFireFire), the screen went off and now nothing. I have the factory cable (I bought it here as a just in case), I have the standard cable - but nothing. Not a flicker. No adb commands come back with anything, no fastboot commands - nothing.
Is there any hope? :crying:
Err... last time I checked, we are supposed to be using Kindle Fire First Aide (KFFA) for the KFHD 7". FFF is for the original Kindle Fire?
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Perhaps when you enabled all internet access, the 7.3.0 update was pushed to your device? If you didn't have it already that is.
Protomartyr said:
Err... last time I checked, we are supposed to be using Kindle Fire First Aide (KFFA) for the KFHD 7". FFF is for the original Kindle Fire?
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Perhaps when you enabled all internet access, the 7.3.0 update was pushed to your device? If you didn't have it already that is.
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I didn't know about KFFA until after I had used KFU (which I already had on my hard drive along with dozens of other utilities).
(I don't visit XDA much (sorry) because I block a lot of adverts, scripts and tracking etc. via Firefox and so the forums don't look very good on my PC and I can't see the Captchas unless I use IE)
I also didn't know about 7.3.0 until I started searching XDA so I'm guessing that's what happened (I had Internet denied to the apps only a couple of months).
So there's no hope then?
ciphernoelie said:
I didn't know about KFFA until after I had used KFU (which I already had on my hard drive along with dozens of other utilities).
(I don't visit XDA much (sorry) because I block a lot of adverts, scripts and tracking etc. via Firefox and so the forums don't look very good on my PC and I can't see the Captchas unless I use IE)
I also didn't know about 7.3.0 until I started searching XDA so I'm guessing that's what happened (I had Internet denied to the apps only a couple of months).
So there's no hope then?
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There is hope. Find the kindle fire first aide thread under general, follow the directions carefully and post there if you have questions or problems.
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Krsmqn said:
There is hope. Find the kindle fire first aide thread under general, follow the directions carefully and post there if you have questions or problems.
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I did already (honestly I wouldn't waste your time without trying as much as I possibly could myself) but my KFHD7 is completely unresponsive.
I've tried the whole 20/30 second hold button thing, I've tried the regular cable, the factory cable, different USB ports (it doesn't register on my laptop in any way). I've rebooted (using the 20 second thing), hooked up the factory cable, then rebooted again (I don't even know if it actually is rebooting because there's nothing on the screen) and then hooked up the regular cable - nothing.
I'd send it back to Amazon but all my private emails and contacts are on it (I used Kaiten to download thousands of old emails). All my logins to various websites are on it, all my passwords were synchronized between Firefox for Android and my (Windows) desktop Firefox. I've nothing criminal to hide (criminal no, embarrassing yes - dating/hookup websites etc.) but I wouldn't want to have to change dozens of passwords.
Can I open it up and short something? Is there a way to manually factory reset by doing something physical internally? I love my Kindle - I even bring it to the shower to play music over speakers (with TuneIn). I'm a big Twitter user and had several Twitter apps and several news app - everything was set up just right :crying:
What annoys me (angers me) is that there was no warning from Amazon. They have my email address (and my phone number) and obviously they have access to my Kindle but they never warned me in advance - they treated MY Kindle like it was a piece of corporate equipment still belonging to them.
I swear - I'll never buy one again. Nexus 7 next time.
ciphernoelie said:
I've looked through dozens of threads so please forgive me if I'm duplicating.
I had previously rooted my KFHD7. I used Titanium Backup to freeze some apps (like Silk) and I used LBE Security Master to forbid the stock Amazon apps (including system apps) from accessing the Internet (after I noticed Silk being 'un-frozen' and Amazon Video being reinstalled).
So this morning (don't know what possessed me) I allowed all the Amazon apps access the Internet just to see if there were any updates etc. - next thing I knew my Kindle was going all weird so I rebooted - only to find all the frozen apps defrosted and other stock apps reinstalled - and root removed - the SU binary was gone as was the actual SU app - as were Google Play and some other apps - I kid you not - I don't wear a tin foil hat - Amazon went in and effectively destroyed my Kindle by defrosting/reinstalling/upgrading their apps and un-rooting my device.
Anyhow, I decided to re-root.
I chose - 2 Install Permanent Root with Superuser from the Kindle Fire Utility
Last thing I saw on the screen it was installing FFF (FireFireFire), the screen went off and now nothing. I have the factory cable (I bought it here as a just in case), I have the standard cable - but nothing. Not a flicker. No adb commands come back with anything, no fastboot commands - nothing.
Is there any hope? :crying:
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Well, What KFU does when you choose the "permanent root" option is root the device, And then, Without your permission downloads and attempts to flash FireFireFire bootloader and CWM recovery, Both made for the original KF, Problem with the KFHD is that when the wrong bootloader is flashed, The bootloader partition is irreversibly damaged. So for now, This device can only be recovered using specific tools that amazon has, So you need to contact amazon, They will probably ask you to ship back your device and send you a replacement.
Also, I forgot to mention - I'm in Ireland - so I'd have to change my Amazon account to a friend's name and address in the UK etc.(get that friend in the UK to let me use their address). I'd have to send the Kindle to them (at my expense) they would have to do the swap with Amazon (if I did decide to send it back) and then they would have to send it to me (at my expense).
EDIT: You were replying (thank you) while I was typing AmrBanawan - it seems to be a lost cause then - short of sending it back - for now it's just a (costly) paperweight.
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Well, What KFU does when you choose the "permanent root" option is root the device, And then, Without your permission downloads and attempts to flash FireFireFire bootloader and CWM recovery, Both made for the original KF, Problem with the KFHD is that when the wrong bootloader is flashed, The bootloader partition is irreversibly damaged. So for now, This device can only be recovered using specific tools that amazon has, So you need to contact amazon, They will probably ask you to ship back your device and send you a replacement.
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"Without your permission downloads and attempts to flash FireFireFire bootloader and CWM recovery" - therein lies the problem - I thought rooting involved an exploit, an SU binary and an SU app - end of - when I saw FFF come up on the screen I had no idea what was going on.
Lesson learned - an expensive lesson.
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"Without your permission downloads and attempts to flash FireFireFire bootloader and CWM recovery" - therein lies the problem - I thought rooting involved an exploit, an SU binary and an SU app - end of - when I saw FFF come up on the screen I had no idea what was going on.
Lesson learned - an expensive lesson.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192818
If you read the program notes, you'd see a warning against using this on any device except the original Kindle Fire. It also states that it flashes FFF TWRP & COTR. Now since you already had the program on your computer from before, I'm guessing you didn't go to the KFU thread to read up on this stuff. It happens (I've made the same mistake before).
Well my point is, I now make it a habit to read up on threads dealing with whatever program I am going to use. That way I can make sure if there is an updated version of the program, and also to make sure if the device gets an update, whether I can still use the program or not. (Like 7.3.0 having a new bootloader, and we need to downgrade to 7.2.3 to add Hashcode's bootloader).
I hope I don't come off the wrong way. I don't mean to flame or criticize. Just trying to help out for the future!
Ugg... The blue text is a pain to read.
Ciphernoelie, you may want to beg Hashcode to offer a solution (if there is even one) and also, you may have to just come to terms with the fact that you made an honest mistake and now have to hope for the best. I'm sure the folks at Amazon have better things to do with their time rather than snooping around your private stuff. Be optimistic.
This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
I dont believe there is a solution to his problem short of manually taking apart his kindle and flashing the rom by hand, there are no tutorials on this and to my knowledge no services that will do it for you.
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Protomartyr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192818
If you read the program notes, you'd see a warning against using this on any device except the original Kindle Fire. It also states that it flashes FFF TWRP & COTR. Now since you already had the program on your computer from before, I'm guessing you didn't go to the KFU thread to read up on this stuff. It happens (I've made the same mistake before).
Well my point is, I now make it a habit to read up on threads dealing with whatever program I am going to use. That way I can make sure if there is an updated version of the program, and also to make sure if the device gets an update, whether I can still use the program or not. (Like 7.3.0 having a new bootloader, and we need to downgrade to 7.2.3 to add Hashcode's bootloader).
I hope I don't come off the wrong way. I don't mean to flame or criticize. Just trying to help out for the future!
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Krsmqn said:
Ugg... The blue text is a pain to read.
Ciphernoelie, you may want to beg Hashcode to offer a solution (if there is even one) and also, you may have to just come to terms with the fact that you made an honest mistake and now have to hope for the best. I'm sure the folks at Amazon have better things to do with their time rather than snooping around your private stuff. Be optimistic.
This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
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mrkhigh said:
I dont believe there is a solution to his problem short of manually taking apart his kindle and flashing the rom by hand, there are no tutorials on this and to my knowledge no services that will do it for you.
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Thanks everyone for your replies - no offence taken to honest replies (Protomartyr).
I've costed sending my Kindle to a friend in the UK by courier or by registered mail plus the cost of him sending it back (plus giving him something for his troubles) and I figure for 20 euros more I could buy a Nexus second hand so that's what I'll do. I'll hang on to the Kindle and (this time) watch the threads here to see if someone comes up with a miracle solution to problems like this (I might prise it open and take a look inside ).
Thanks again :highfive:
What happens if you use factory cable ,does it connect to PC?
As in fastboot -i 0x1949 devices
xxxo said:
What happens if you use factory cable ,does it connect to PC?
As in fastboot -i 0x1949 devices
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Na, when the bootloader partition is damaged the device doesn't even power up no matter what you do!
Your one hope would be one person claimed there's had an sd card in it that was standard and removable, honestly I think they were fibbing but if you found that it would be repairable my experience of just images online and xda reports is this is not the case tho
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mrkhigh said:
Your one hope would be one person claimed there's had an sd card in it that was standard and removable, honestly I think they were fibbing but if you found that it would be repairable my experience of just images online and xda reports is this is not the case tho
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Thanks but...Nope, no detachable SD card. I did the ifixit teardown - http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Kindle+Fire+HD+Teardown/10457/1
Sadly it sounds like you have a very expensive paper weight
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So a guy from work found an iPad the other day and when he tried to use it apparently it was tracked and now he's being charged with theft. Can the Kindle Fire be tracked the same way? I found one and I'm just wondering if I should even try rooting it or connecting it to the internet. I didn't steal it, there's just no way for me to get it back to the owner seeing as IDK who that is. No point in wasting a perfectly good device. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You should be fine. iOS has that tracking app and combined with Cloud, allows you to track the device through Internet. Kindle devices have no such app, although 3rd-party apps from the Play Store can also do this. As long as you've got no such app installed, it's safe.
seokhun said:
You should be fine. iOS has that tracking app and combined with Cloud, allows you to track the device through Internet. Kindle devices have no such app, although 3rd-party apps from the Play Store can also do this. As long as you've got no such app installed, it's safe.
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Alright so I did a factory reset on the device, but it still wont let me register it. Am I going to have to root it in order to "unlock" it or is there another way?
You don't need to register. It only allows you to connect to Amazon services. You can import your own media and still use it just fine. Or root and install CM10.1, then you don't need Amazon at all.
As I know, Amazon can make it "disabled", so you cannot use it if the owner reported it as lost.
Only the way you can use it is flash 2nd bootloader and TWRP, then flash CM10.1.
Hey everyone! I think I just found the best bang for the buck tablet that has some great root development going on. I recently destroyed the display my Galaxy S4 which I had rooted and working quite well for the longest time. I only used the device to game (Clash of Clans rooted with Xmod) and mostly on Wifi. I think the Kindle would be a great replacement and probably at 1/8 of the cost of a another phone or tablet.
2 quick questions before I buy..
1. If I were to buy one today, what are the chances of it not coming with 5.1.2?
2. Once I have rooted my device, how well does Xmodgames and Clash work together? This is more of a questions for my gamers out there.. any suggestions appreciated
I just got mine today and it came with 5.0.0 on it. The moment I connected it to wifi it started to download a new patch, so I disconnected immediately. Now I'm just wondering what I should do next, but at least I still just have 5.0.0 on it
Use the SuperTool to block the OTA updates before you connect the Fire to the internet! Then you are free to root, flash new OS etc.
It all depends what you want to do with it, but if you want to install a custom rom, this is one option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/tip-buying-fire-powered-want-to-install-t3277552
nemof said:
I just got mine today and it came with 5.0.0 on it.
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Where did you buy it from?
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Where did you buy it from?
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I bought it from Amazon. During it's initial setup I connected it to wireless and then it said it was going to update. I was worried about it updating to 5.1.2, so I actually reset the tablet before it could complete the update. Then turned the wireless off.
What I found though was that kingroot wouldn't work. So I let the first update complete once, and it updated to 5.1.1, and said it was now ready to update to 5.1.2. That's the point where I ran rootjunky's supertool and disabled OTA updates and the system update screen. This effectively killed the 5.1.2 update, even though it had already downloaded in the background and just needed me to restart the tablet. I then went ahead and installed google apps and the various other things noted in the tips and tricks thread.
ymmv, I kind of bodged my install. Widget's don't work, but I believe that may be a problem with Fire OS for which there is no easy fix
That's weird, bought mine at the start of March, from Amazon, got here with 5.1.1.
So chances are there is no 5.1.2 currently, probably they are just getting rid of old stock but maybe soon in a couple months 5.1.2 will be loaded on all of them, so better "act now".
nemof said:
I bought it from Amazon. During it's initial setup I connected it to wireless and then it said it was going to update. I was worried about it updating to 5.1.2, so I actually reset the tablet before it could complete the update. Then turned the wireless off.
What I found though was that kingroot wouldn't work. So I let the first update complete once, and it updated to 5.1.1, and said it was now ready to update to 5.1.2. That's the point where I ran rootjunky's supertool and disabled OTA updates and the system update screen. This effectively killed the 5.1.2 update, even though it had already downloaded in the background and just needed me to restart the tablet. I then went ahead and installed google apps and the various other things noted in the tips and tricks thread.
ymmv, I kind of bodged my install. Widget's don't work, but I believe that may be a problem with Fire OS for which there is no easy fix
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if it was on 5.0.X just needed to boot into fastboot mode and boot twrp with fastboot.exe
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Just got my Amazon Fire tablet from Amazon.com today. It had 5.1.1 installed on it.
I used the SuperTool method to root and block OTA. My daughter loves playing Pokemon Go, and since the tablet is rooted now it won't work. I have been told installing Magisk is the best way to get around it. In order to do this I think I need a custom recovery and I need to unroot as Magisk roots when you install it. I'm just worrying that it may not be compatible with the Fire and I don't want to brick it. I am on 5.1.2 bootloader, so I guess I need to install FlashFire then try to install Magisk?
There is no tutorial on how to do this specifically for the Fire, so I'm tempted not to touch it and just tell her she is out of luck.
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I used the SuperTool method to root and block OTA. My daughter loves playing Pokemon Go, and since the tablet is rooted now it won't work. I have been told installing Magisk is the best way to get around it. In order to do this I think I need a custom recovery and I need to unroot as Magisk roots when you install it. I'm just worrying that it may not be compatible with the Fire and I don't want to brick it. I am on 5.1.2 bootloader, so I guess I need to install FlashFire then try to install Magisk?
There is no tutorial on how to do this specifically for the Fire, so I'm tempted not to touch it and just tell her she is out of luck.
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I would go with your gut (just say 'no'). Magisk may or may not know how to root a 5th gen Fire and FlashFire is not a custom recovery. Initial sniff tests detect a foul odor. In addition, the device lacks a physical GPS chip which makes playing the game a challenge. You can go with 'mock' locations but that's a hassle and takes the fun out IMHO.
Davey126 said:
I would go with your gut (just say 'no'). Magisk may or may not know how to root a 5th gen Fire and FlashFire is not a custom recovery. Initial sniff tests detect a foul odor. In addition, the device lacks a physical GPS chip which makes playing the game a challenge. You can go with 'mock' locations but that's a hassle and takes the fun out IMHO.
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The weird thing is that the app works on it and is downloadable as compatible. I didn't think it had a GPS chip, but I can't figure out how it knows she is walking, but it does around the house and around the yard while she is on wifi. That one has still baffled me, but not enough to care to find out how it is still working.
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The weird thing is that the app works on it and is downloadable as compatible. I didn't think it had a GPS chip, but I can't figure out how it knows she is walking, but it does around the house and around the yard while she is on wifi. That one has still baffled me, but not enough to care to find out how it is still working.
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Google Location Services 'maps' AP (WiFi) locations and does a pretty decent job approximating current location based on signal strength. Results are even better in AP dense areas like neighborhoods, apartment complexes, etc.