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LG P970 Android speed

Hi,
I recently got this phone and upgraded it to android 2.3 (V20N), but with both FroYo and Gingerbread, the phone seems to be a bit slow. Opening application list, opening apps, or even just switching desktop screens is not as smooth as i would expect it to be. Everything has a little bit of lag to it, and and switching desktop screen is a little bit choppy, not perfectly smooth...
My brother has very cheap Samsung Galaxy Mini, and every single action on his phone is a lot more fluid, responds instantly with no lag, and animations are perfectly smooth.
I think LG messed up when customizing Android for this phone. My question is... is there any way to make OS run as fast as on Samsung Galaxy Mini for example? Is there any stock android ROM available without any LG bloat added?
Thanks in advance.

It seem you have some app, which consumes your power. Try the app betterbatterystats here from the forum to identify this app. Normaly these kind of apps are realy strong battery eater.
The hotmail app is normaly a "hot" candidate of a trash app.
If you don't have success make a factory reset, of course make before a backup of your personal data.
And everytime you have the option to change to a cooked Rom like Zeuss by Huexxx. This Rom rocks!

No, i dont have any demanding apps running on background. I have battery stats app where i see that nothing consumes power, and also my battery usually lasts for over 4 days, so i dont think there is any problem with that.
The problem is that the system overall is not nearly as smooth and responsive as galaxy mini, which has a lot worse HW specs, yet it responds a lot quicker and all animation are a bit smoother. For example, in LG-edited android, pinch gesture on desktop causes very laggy animation. Widged browser by LG has very laggy scrolling and moving icons around desktop in edit mode is laggy too. Everything by LG is just laggy, and whole system doesnt respon indstantly, but with some delays.
It is not the smooth experience i want it to be.
I also want either clean Android rom, or original vendor ROM. I dont want any customized third party ROMs, for several reasons:
1, Zeus is overclocked. I hate that, it decreases hardware lifespan.
2, While ROM cooks are usually skilled editors and programmers, they are really bad designers, and usually design appearance of ROM to their own taste with no uniform aesthetics and design that would look professional. I want a professional visual design, and those unfortunately in most of the cases come only from the Google or vendors (HTC, samsung...) themselves.
3, ROM cooks usually include a lot of their bloatware. Vendors do too, i know, but in their case, those additions at least have some unified ideology.
4, Most of the custom ROMs are usually rooted. I simply don't want that.
Oh, and i forgot to add. I hate the performance of the stock ROM even right after factory reset. I did factory reset several times. But it doesn't solve speed issue by any means. The OS is just slower and laggier by its nature. The way LG altered it.

Zeus is overclock-able but by default runs on max 1000.
Give it a try. I try many rooms and always come back to it for the smooth running.
And yes LG have screwed big time the poor black on the software side.

First show this video of a stock v20, if your fone is a lot slower, give it back, to repair or to get one new or another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_uYbs0PfE&list=UU7YbxG8ZoH2OBuLc-v-VTSQ&index=3&feature=plcp
It isn't your/our job to make it work.
Over cooked ROM Zeus, base on LG v20:
1. It isn't overlocked, but you can if you want.
2. It´s nice, but you have a lot of themses to select. Original LG, ICS...
3. It have no bloadware. It is realy clean and have a costumice tool. Everything can be modified to everyone needs.
4. Everyones onwn decision.
and it is a lot more fluid that the stock one.

Ok, gotta try zeus.

Rawalanche said:
Ok, gotta try zeus.
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If you have a hardwareproblem I would'n root. Compare with above linked video. If yours is slower, give your phone back.

Well, unfortunatelly it seems that i order to instal Zeus ROM, i would need to root my phone, and i dont want to do that.
Also, yes... my phone runs exactly as fast as in the video above, but it is still not nearly as fast as Galaxy Mini.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVomy_hEjpM&feature=relmfu
This is video of Galaxy Mini, it responds a lot quicker, and also animations are a lot smoother than in case of P970. Especially the pinch animation on desktop for example

I don't see a difference between the Mini in the video to mine OB with Zeus. Consider that the OB has 5x more resolution than the mini.
What you can try is another launcher like Zeam Launcher, Launcher Pro or Go Launcher. All the three works more fluid than LGs one.
Regards.

Which one of the 3 would you recommend/consider fastest?

Rawalanche said:
Which one of the 3 would you recommend/consider fastest?
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In order of appearance faster->slower, but also from some features to complex. Make a try they are simpel to install and to deinstall all 3 works good. I actually prefer 360 launcher due its features, but it isn't fast.

Ok, thank you very much. Launcher was indeed the problem. I tried all 3 and I am sticking with Launcher Pro as it seems to be fastest of the 3. My phone finally feels snappy. Thanks!

[Q] Weird RAM Managment.

Hi,
I have L90 D405n. I have a stock 4.4.2 LG ROM.
I also have installed more than a dozen apps. When I start my phone I have about 200MB free RAM memory. In the next 36h of constant work I have less and less free memory.
Right now before I restarted my L90 I had less than 50MB of free RAM and my apps where in "restarting" mode (settings > apps > running).
Did anyone of you noticed somethink similar ?

That's the thing with our device - it has too little RAM. That's why I have either unnecessary apps (the ones that came with the device and cannot be uninstalled) and their notifications disabled or you could greenify them with an app called Greenify. This basically suspends all the apps (also does it automatically when you lock the device). Also, if you're rooted and have your bootloader unlocked, you could flash CM11, which is based on stock Android. That should also use less RAM as it isn't skinned.
Personally, I rarely saw RAM go below 150MB, but the aforementioned solutions should help.

linasj said:
That's the thing with our device - it has too little RAM. That's why I have either unnecessary apps (the ones that came with the device and cannot be uninstalled) and their notifications disabled or you could greenify them with an app called Greenify. This basically suspends all the apps (also does it automatically when you lock the device). Also, if you're rooted and have your bootloader unlocked, you could flash CM11, which is based on stock Android. That should also use less RAM as it isn't skinned.
Personally, I rarely saw RAM go below 150MB, but the aforementioned solutions should help.
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Greenify works only for a while, after a few more hours my phone is still out of memory. I also tried CM but it's not working properly on my device. 1GB of RAM is definitely not too little. My brother has MyPhone Cube (Polish manufacturer) he has no Greenify and a lot of apps installed. His phone still manages to get over 500MB of free RAM with all the apps kept in memory. Free memory doesn't shrinks with time on his phone.
So it's definitely a poor RAM managment solutions in L90 and a lots of crappy apps run in background. I can provide logcat and all the necessary log's if someone would like to look into it.

P.S. What is Lost RAM ?
I have over 70MB right now.

Xemidra said:
Greenify works only for a while, after a few more hours my phone is still out of memory. I also tried CM but it's not working properly on my device. 1GB of RAM is definitely not too little. My brother has MyPhone Cube (Polish manufacturer) he has no Greenify and a lot of apps installed. His phone still manages to get over 500MB of free RAM with all the apps kept in memory. Free memory doesn't shrinks with time on his phone.
So it's definitely a poor RAM managment solutions in L90 and a lots of crappy apps run in background. I can provide logcat and all the necessary log's if someone would like to look into it.
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Then again, it runs almost pure stock Android, while L90 is pretty heavily skinned. Yeah, Greenify is a bet in this case. I myself had it working well in some cases and not so well in other.
I tried (and suggested) probably a good majority of the solutions there are, so it might be up to LG to figure this out (if they're aware of it). But rest assured, you're not the only one with RAM issues. If it weren't for them, it'd probably be an even better device.

linasj said:
Then again, it runs almost pure stock Android, while L90 is pretty heavily skinned. Yeah, Greenify is a bet in this case. I myself had it working well in some cases and not so well in other.
I tried (and suggested) probably a good majority of the solutions there are, so it might be up to LG to figure this out (if they're aware of it). But rest assured, you're not the only one with RAM issues. If it weren't for them, it'd probably be an even better device.
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CarbonROM worked very nice on my phone but it had serious problem with theme engine (it's a ****ty function) and it disables my clock alarm causing SystemUI force close. Fonts on any CustomROM aren't that sharp like in stock, camera performance and quality is a lot worse and entirely useless IR because it's not working at all. It's also quieter than stock.
I don't understand why manufacturers are stubborn and they are forcing their own overlays. Android could work as fast and stable as Windows Phone if they would start using clean Android.

Xemidra said:
CarbonROM worked very nice on my phone but it had serious problem with theme engine (it's a ****ty function) and it disables my clock alarm causing SystemUI force close. Fonts on any CustomROM aren't that sharp like in stock, camera performance and quality is a lot worse and entirely useless IR because it's not working at all. It's also quieter than stock.
I don't understand why manufacturers are stubborn and they are forcing their own overlays. Android could work as fast and stable as Windows Phone if they would start using clean Android.
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THIS. I wish Google would pressure OEMs just so that they'd skin Android less. Hell, I would've gotten a Motorola or a Nexus device if I could, but I can't really buy a Motorola device where I live (unless off of Ebay or Amazon, but I guess I'm a bit worried about buying things like that there). Albeit Nexus 5 being quite a budget phone, it's still out of my league. For now.

I want performance (GT-i8190)

Dear fellow ROM-lovers
As a looong-time ROM-user, I'm still trying to find thé perfect ROM. I've used a ton of ROM's, some of them are:
STOCK: Project Noble, Virginity, Ronin
KitKat: Omni-ROM, Cyanogenmod, Paranoid Android, SlimRom, pretty much anything popular
Lollipop: Omni-ROM, Cyanogenmod​I haven't tried out Marshmellow ROM's since it's rather new.
The STOCK-ROM's are obviously the better choice when I'm talking about battery life. I really don't care about customization anymore since I've gotten to the point where only useful things matter on this old s3 mini of mine.
Nooow, to get to the point. I'm looking for the ROM with thé best performance. I don't care if it's a MIUI-ROM or anything else like that, I just want a buttery smooth phone. Ofcourse a decent battery life is kind-of required too. I was told STOCK-ROM's have the best performance in the market, but the 'buttery smoothness' is losing it's potential to be honest. Or I might ask for something that just isn't possible, in that case, I'd appreciate your opinion too.
Now it would be too much to ask for good battery life, good performance and good customization, so I'm only really asking about the first two. I've tried crossbreeder mod, putting scale animations on 0.5 in dev settings, other fly-on mods, but I'm still not really satisfied yet. If you have any other optimization-ideas, let me know.
Chrome and Snapchat are just slow like hell, other apps often take a very long time too , I'm just looking for something I don't know.
If you have any suggestions, I'm excited to hear about it!
Ty!
Edit: I also read something about the influence of governors in performance. What are the best options to go for in this type of customization?

I use Omni lollipop & freeze / delete the stuff i don't want. This gives me good ram & better performance over stock. Best performance use F-kernel but you may need to do the additional instructions in the F-Kernel Q/A thread to get Nova Thor to work. I tried it & got better performance but it was never quite stable enough for me. On FKernal lollipop i had to add the Nova Thor app & add a init.d script granting the Mali folder permissions 755 (see thread).
The issue for me with this device was the memory & multi tasks but with Omni its does the job. Also with stock the cve issues, Omni lolli more upto date.
Oh yeah if you can don't use Gplay as its a hog on older devices, just my 2 cents.

No gapps !

kurtn said:
No gapps !
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How can you imagine an android phone without gapps these days ?

I'm writing with it.

kurtn said:
I'm writing with it.
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So how does it feel?

kweetvannix said:
So how does it feel?
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I feel free. Most of my apps are from f-droid.

kurtn said:
I feel free. Most of my apps are from f-droid.
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Yeah no Gapps! As above Fdroid & UpTown Down, Guardian Project.
If you must use Gapps on a old device use a Pico minimal install to get the play store.

Sidebandit said:
Yeah no Gapps! As above Fdroid & UpTown Down, Guardian Project.
If you must use Gapps on a old device use a Pico minimal install to get the play store.
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What works well in this ROM is xposed fakegapps and microG instead of gapps

I recommend stock ROM with stock kernel for best hardware compatibility and performance.
I tried several custom ROM but unfortunately (in my phone) there are some incompatibilities with the hardware. Compass is not perfectly working and the most annoying is charging was never complete to 100%. They are also uses more RAM.
I installed custom kernel (3.0.101) on stock ROM and having problem with charging. I think it is a kernel-related issue. So, I revert back to stock kernel (3.0.31) and everything came back to normal.
For better performance, try uninstalling un-needed apps (Samsung and Google apps, including Google Play Services). You can use microG GmsCore to replace Google Play Services. It even has alternative to Network Location. :good: I am also using older version of some apps because it seems to use less RAM than newer versions. Google Play Store is working with microG.
For smoother scrolling, I activate "Force GPU Rendering" in Settings > Developer options. It helps scrolling performance in Contact and Messaging apps a bit.

mandayugana said:
I recommend stock ROM with stock kernel for best hardware compatibility and performance.
I tried several custom ROM but unfortunately (in my phone) there are some incompatibilities with the hardware. Compass is not perfectly working and the most annoying is charging was never complete to 100%. They are also uses more RAM.
I installed custom kernel (3.0.101) on stock ROM and having problem with charging. I think it is a kernel-related issue. So, I revert back to stock kernel (3.0.31) and everything came back to normal.
For better performance, try uninstalling un-needed apps (Samsung and Google apps, including Google Play Services). You can use microG GmsCore to replace Google Play Services. It even has alternative to Network Location. :good: I am also using older version of some apps because it seems to use less RAM than newer versions. Google Play Store is working with microG.
For smoother scrolling, I activate "Force GPU Rendering" in Settings > Developer options. It helps scrolling performance in Contact and Messaging apps a bit.
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Yes, sounds like a good idea for speed, but a bad idea for security. Using an outdated ROM, the only protection comes from an uptodate playservices. Microg has no malware protection.

[PROPOSAL/REQUEST] Can we have a Go Edition ROM for Huashan?

Good Day.
I would like to clarify that I do not know how to create ROMs and I do not know how to write codes(anymore) but since our devices are aging, would be it great to send our Xperia SP off with a bang with an Android GO edition-like ROM? our devices cant handle newer apps and processes anymore but at least I think the Go edition ROM can still make our phones as usable as daily drivers either on Android Q or Pie.
please consider. thank you.

As far as i may concerned, LOW RAM optimisations are already implemented in the codebase for current active ROMs for Huashan. And, to the best of my knowledge, which i may be wrong, these optimisations are derived from Android GO itself. I vaguely remember that at one time this is a main topic said by Adrian the master himself.
Huashan is no longer capable to run modern apps that somewhat uses heavy resources (which i myself don't understand why Instagram needed such a computing power). Unfortunately neither do current Go phones. That is why PWA is a thing to all Go devices. I.e. Maps Go, Twitter Lite, etc.
Of course this is not an objection to your proposal. Just thinking of dropping my thoughts here

Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
Instead of shoving newer android versions down this phones throat expecting miracles. We should go back to one of Lollipop or marshmallow ROMs and realise how much lag free and usable it is. They're still pretty modern looking and does the job well.

KaBombaBoom said:
Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
Instead of shoving newer android versions down this phones throat expecting miracles. We should go back to one of Lollipop or marshmallow ROMs and realise how much lag free and usable it is. They're still pretty modern looking and does the job well.
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Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
Not to mention that they offer battery times like 7-12 days.

emcom said:
Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
Not to mention that they offer battery times like 7-12 days.
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I don't use gapps on LOS 15.1. Knowing that they crap the phone out.
LOS 15.1 is good, we get latest security updates, better UI etc.. but hangs and stutters more with apps and multitasking.

KaBombaBoom said:
Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
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I don't agree with that, KaBombaBoom. I ran Oreo for a long time and recently upgraded to Pie. The phone is still surprisingly fast until some hungry app gobbles up all RAM and it starts running on swap.
That's what doesn't cut well for any phone in the long run, those apps that keep growing bigger and bigger and requiring more RAM though mostly or no new functionality is added.
Google Play Services itself is heavy, not to mention other google apps such as their mail, I open it from the browser these days. I'd love to get away without GApps but retaining the deep sleep wake that push notifications provide.
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Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
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How is your experience with that emcom? Does your phone wakes up from deep sleep when you get IM?
That's the main reason I never tried android without GApps. That and the fact that all drivers are mostly proprietary anyways, so why bother

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I don't agree with that, KaBombaBoom. I ran Oreo for a long time and recently upgraded to Pie. The phone is still surprisingly fast until some hungry app gobbles up all RAM and it starts running on swap.
That's what doesn't cut well for any phone in the long run, those apps that keep growing bigger and bigger and requiring more RAM though mostly or no new functionality is added.
Google Play Services itself is heavy, not to mention other google apps such as their mail, I open it from the browser these days. I'd love to get away without GApps but retaining the deep sleep wake that push notifications provide.
How is your experience with that emcom? Does your phone wakes up from deep sleep when you get IM?
That's the main reason I never tried android without GApps. That and the fact that all drivers are mostly proprietary anyways, so why bother
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Of course it wakes up. I've been using it as my daily driver with WhatsApp for some time last year, and it was perfect. There was just one problem which I could not resolve : message backups. I mean, it was working perfectly when I made backups on the SD card, but if I wanted to have them somewhere in the cloud, the only option was the Google Drive - which is not working without Google services.
Btw. it's possible to use One Drive instead of Google Drive (eg. for photos backup in the cloud, but not WhatsApp - if you have maybe Office 365 subscription.
And it's possible to have anything else running without Google - contacts, messaging, even a lot of applications indicating they need Google on the phone - they are working without Google anyway. Thet's except for paid apps, of course.

Question Is it worth it to install a Custom Rom on the Redmi Note 10 Pro?

I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.

it is, I've been using debloated miui11 and 12 on tulip for over 2 years, it is much, much better than original miui. My wife has been using custom aicp on rn4x, and again, experience was much better, than on stock.
Apps will work in 99% cases, if not, there are tutorials how to install them. Stuff that you have to look over the most are banking apps, nfc apps and rn10p miui stock cam (which is actually better, than gcam mods now).
RN10p does not have anti rollback protection, it is generally easier to flash than smartphones based on mediatek cpus, so you must done some physical damage to actually broke this phone.
About OTA's - there are options to install ota updates on custom recovieries like skyhawk recovery project or others to twrp (this recovery does not have that option, as far as I know). If that fails, you can always install new version on top of the old.

Ok thanks a lot! Are there any suggestions you can give me on what rom i should use on the rn10p and can you give me any tips about installing and using custom roms? I'm new to this.

I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.

buczek0711 said:
I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.
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Thanks a ton for your help! I'll install pixel experience and try it out tomorrow. I'll root it and install the stock camera. Wish me luck.

Zare_ said:
I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.
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I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?

LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.

LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke?

buczek0711 said:
Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.
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Exactly, Thanks!