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Hello!
i hope someone is able to answer this one?
i wonder if it is somehow possible to switch to a second installed TTS engine on Fire OS. I am blind and use the build in VoiceView screenreader which is quite good. But i want to use another text-to-speech engine from Acapela which i have installed from PlayStore.
Unfortunatelly the TTS settings only allow to switch between the preinstalled Amazon Ivona voices and not to switch to a different TTS engine. So i guess there must be a way to fix this.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Rene
I think the only way of doing this is with a rooted device. There are some safe ways to root your device and install custom ROMS. I do realize this could be a great leap considering the impairment but maybe you have someone that could help you in doing it. Also, as an aside, Google is releasing an app to allow one to entirely control their device with voice. They are beta testing this now with limited testers and hopefully it will be released to all shortly.
If you root, I would suggest using a safe ROM and rooting method, reading the Fire Original Android Development forum should point you in the right direction. My personal preference is to use the SuperTool and install the AOSP Fire Nexus ROM. Good luck and I appreciate your dilemma, just sorry there is not an easier solution.
gtallmadge said:
I think the only way of doing this is with a rooted device. There are some safe ways to root your device and install custom ROMS. I do realize this could be a great leap considering the impairment but maybe you have someone that could help you in doing it. Also, as an aside, Google is releasing an app to allow one to entirely control their device with voice. They are beta testing this now with limited testers and hopefully it will be released to all shortly.
If you root, I would suggest using a safe ROM and rooting method, reading the Fire Original Android Development forum should point you in the right direction. My personal preference is to use the SuperTool and install the AOSP Fire Nexus ROM. Good luck and I appreciate your dilemma, just sorry there is not an easier solution.
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Many thanks! I think i'll go that road. With the AOSP ROM: is it also possible to use the same amazon apps which are normaly preinstalled on the Fire? Most of them are really accessible.
Thanks again!
Rene
The AOSP ROM will firmly place you in the Google environment but you could still download Amazon apps once you install the Amazon Appstore application. But you may find the Google apps will suit your needs as well if not better. Keep us posted on your progress.
Hey guys,
Tried out several ROMs/kernals, etc....mostly looking for best battery life...have found that Resurrection Remix (CM14.1) has been the best so far...
Question - in my flip flopping of ROMs I've grown to like the google assistant. Anyone have any luck installing that? I've tried editing my build.prop and installing the latest arm-64 apk beta for the google app...nothing seems to work. Anyone have any success? Oh - and if it matters - I'm using Nova Lancher beta 5.10.
Thanks in advance!
There's an xposed module that enables it....
Look for assistant enabler..
It works for me on stock rom 3.5.4
TimFlex said:
There's an xposed module that enables it....
Look for assistant enabler..
It works for me on stock rom 3.5.4
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Thank you for the response...yes, that was one of the older versions I was running...anything 6.0 you can run xposed....Xposed does not have a working version for Nougat yet.
I could always get the Google assistant on a Nougat ROM. Don't remember if I tried it on RR, but I think you'll get it, just follow some guide on enabling assistant. Mine involved making those changes to build prop file, clearing cache of the Google app. Once, I could enable the assistant following a guide on XDA itself which made me flash some files. It basically does the similar editing of the build prop file. The guide was titled something like Pixel experience, maybe.
Sorry for this vagueness.
The point I'm trying to make is, most of the guides out there work. You just need to Google it.
Hi!
I flashed LineageOS on my Huawei P9 lite.
I intend to use the Phone without Google Apps.
But Android Auto won't start without these Gapps, is there a way to make it work anyway?
bye
Probably only by using microG (Google services replacement) but now android auto isn't working with this.
Probably in future or if anyone here knows more than me and could try more.
Here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...al/mtcd-microg-install-massive-speed-t3581439
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-microg-gmscore-floss-play-services-t3217616
Edit.. You need to search. If i understood well, someone here posted that it could be done
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...y-services-t3217616/post75322011#post75322011
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thank u.
i tried MicroG, but the App told me to update my google services
guess i have to wait for a workaround or an alternative
bye
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.
Didgeridoohan said:
Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.
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Thank you for the reply. I agree but from my research I could not find custom ROMs available for the Pixel 3 that are officially supported and stable. Please recommend one if there is one that is officially supported and stable. If there is not I would like to know the steps after I root a phone to remove all the google apps and services.
https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.
castrum_doloris said:
https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.
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Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services. You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora. When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.
ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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To get rid of issues, uninstall any google apps you want systemlessly using Debloater ( Terminal Emulator ).
ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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You are in luck. Get a huawei phone.
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ToughDBlue said:
Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services.
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"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
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You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora.
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MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
ToughDBlue said:
When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
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No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
ToughDBlue said:
Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.
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I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help
Lineage is available for Pixel 3. It is unofficial, but built by someone on the Lineage team. Check the Pixel 3xl forum. Most custom roms are posted there, but are actually for both devices. The thing is, most custom roms for the device come with GAPPs included (Including Lineage), so not useful for you. This is getting OT though.
castrum_doloris said:
"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help
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Thank you for the very detailed reply. Very helpful. I decided to get a Oneplus 7T and not a Pixel 3. I did research and found that most custom ROMs for the Oneplus 7T do not officially support Android 10 as well as MicroG and TWRP. The unofficial custom ROMs note that there are bugs and some instability currently. Being a newbie and needing my Oneplus 7T to be reliable as it's my only phone I rather have an officially supported LineageOS with MicroG custom ROM when it's released. Until then I need help figuring out the best method to remove all gapps and services. I don't use any google apps. I do use Microsoft apps so I need those to not only work but be able to send notifications. I also need to have location services work for a non-google maps app and weather app. I would like to keep Oxygen OS as it has some customizations features I like. Am I asking too much? Lol. However, since microG is not supported I don't think I can do what I'm looking for since MicroG removes all gapps and services and replaces them including location services ability and notifications. Does Magisk have a module that can do what I'm looking for?
You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.
Didgeridoohan said:
You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.
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I couldn't find the Manager downloads on the OP7T forum. Can you provide a direct link to the Manager downloads?
The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.
Didgeridoohan said:
The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.
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Got it. Thank you for your help!
G'day
I'm sick of google and everything they are about. Don't be evil my arse. I already do the simple stuff like using brave browser and duck duck go search. I'm hoping someone can advise me on how to strip my phone of as much google as possible and replace with aosp alternatives. Or even just point me towards some guides on it.
I am using a Samsung galaxy a22 5g rooted with magisk stock rom.
Thanks
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
Champdroid said:
de-google
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i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
hajdulak said:
I found that uptodown does host apks
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do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
loopypalm said:
do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
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Nice, thanks for that! ♥
hajdulak said:
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
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Hey thanks for the reply and info. Flashing an aosp custom rom would be my usual go to. However I've been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
loopypalm said:
i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
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Cheers for this. Agree on the first statement but having been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom? If safe and stable I'm happy to do the research because I'd love to get a custom aosp rom going on this.
Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
I used to flash heaps of roms and kernels on older devices but this whole GSI thing is new to me. If it's dicey I'll go the TB route with the folders you pointed me to. Cheers
Champdroid said:
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom?
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if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
Champdroid said:
Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
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looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
Champdroid said:
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
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sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
loopypalm said:
if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
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Cool cheers for your help mate. Touche on the last point. New job with nice pay bump coming so that will be the go I think.
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
I built a Magisk module for this some time ago. However, it's very likely that it won't work anymore and will probably cause a bootloop. I'm only posting it in case someone wants to use the repo as inspiration.
Kermina Awad / DeGoogle · GitLab
Google? A Magisk module which removes, Google?
gitlab.com
MartK87 said:
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
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you forgot to mention that both GrapheneOS and CalyXOS are available ONLY for the Pixel phones
and the Pixels have a unique feature - the bootloader can be locked back AFTER flashing a custom ROM
Well I stand corrected ( said the man in the orthopaedic shoes)
want de-google? buy and iphone and done