Hello everyone!
After bricking my first XZ after only one week I decided that I'll wait a while till I decide to root my second one hehe
I've noticed that there is a HUGE amount of bloat, so I started to disable a lot of them (the ones that I could ), but I'm getting a little stuck with some of them cos I don't know which one is safe to disable..
Is there a list with the system apps that are safe to disable in stock 4.4.4 no root?
I've searched for it but no luck
Sorry if this is in a wrong section..
Just another question: is it possible to downgrade from 4.4.4 with PC Companion or another official way ? Not a procedure that may brick my phone or loose the warranty?
Thanks!
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I had same question ? but I got no Answers ?
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Flash a custom rom because mostly they have no bloatware because it is removed !
Thank you, but as I've mentioned above, I do not want to root the phone..
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I think that you can't remove much system apps without root... !?
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I do not want to remove them, I want to disable them..
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I do not want to remove them, I want to disable them..
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I think the system itself know which safe and which not because some of the "not safe to remove" has a grayed out disable button.
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I know about that. There are some apps that have the disable option available, but don't know for sure if they are safe or not to. Here are a few examples:
- android.res.overlay
- basic sleep mode apps
- camera extension
- com.android.browser.res.overlay
- com.android.providers.partner... etc.
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android.res.overlay
anything that is android.blah.blah or android.framework.blah
framework.blah.blah @framework.blah.bla
usualy arent safe
These are the apps that have the "Disable" option, but I haven't disabled.
android.res.overlay
basic sleep mode apps
camera extension
com.android.smspush
com.sonyericsson.capabilities.res.overlay
com.sonyericsson.dtcpctrl
com.sonyerricsson.r2r.client. res.overlay
ConfigUpdater
DrmDialogs
Google Account Manager
Google Backup Transport
Google Partner Setup
Google Play Services
Google Play Store
Google Services Framework
MusixFX
Phone Contact
R2R Client
Tools ?
What is the Tools app used for?
NOT SAFE
android.res.overlay
basic sleep mode apps
camera extension
com.android.smspush
com.sonyericsson.capabilities.res.overlay
com.sonyericsson.dtcpctrl
com.sonyerricsson.r2r.client. res.overlay
ConfigUpdater
DrmDialogs
SAFE BUT THEY ARE GOOGLE SERVICED
Google Account Manager
Google Backup Transport
Google Partner Setup
Google Play Services
Google Play Store
Google Services Framework
NOT SAFE
MusixFX
Phone Contact
R2R Client
Tools ?
Tools is testing tools aka for dev stuff, and some core android stuff weirdly
Its probably just going to break the settings app if you disable, or even bootloop
Hi
Does anyone know how to flash this on nexus 6?
I want to experiment using my phone without Google Play Services for obvious reasons.
Hi...
I found the official website where you can find pretty much all Informations you're looking for:
https://microg.org
Hope that helps...
@y300owner
If you want an easy automatic way for installing it look here: microG unofficial installer.
I just have to send my OP3T back for RMA, so I decided to lock it's bootloader, remove the dm verity warning, etc., to make sure it looks like an original one. The process involved flashing OOS 3.5.4 back to my phone and when I booted it up, I was surprised to see an "Android Pay" icon in my application list, which I never saw so far (not on the original phone, not when I flashed other stock OS versions). At the end of the process I updated OOS 3.5.4 to 4.1.6 via local update and the Android Pay icon is no longer there.
Does anybody know why? Is Android Pay no longer part of Oxygen OS? Is there a way to get it back?
Thanks!
Yeah, the app is probably frozen. You'd need to unfreeze it by using some app manager or soemthing like TitaniumBU or that warez app, idk if I should be naming it.
Android Pay is not yet available in all countries and banks. It is still on your phone but hidden. Even if you get it back, it might not work if it is not available in your country.
However, there is a way to get it back. This worked for me, not sure whether this will work for you.
1. Install XDA app.
2. Navigate to Apps screen.
3. Check for updates.
4. If you are having an older version of Android Pay on your phone you will be able to see Android Pay with update option.
5. Update the app via XDA application.
6. Once this is done, you can launch Android Pay.
I am from India and not sure whether this worked because Google has plans to launch Android Pay in India.
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1. Install XDA app.
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Sorry, but what XDA app is that? Something special? On my XDA app there is nothing like Apps...
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Sorry, but what XDA app is that? Something special? On my XDA app there is nothing like Apps...
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I use XDA Labs app. It has an app section.
Hello friends. I hope you can help me. The Play Store can only be updated automatically when installing an AOSP rom such as Lineage OS. When I use a TouchWiz it is impossible to update the applications and I can not do anything. I have tried to clean the cache, do Force Close, uninstalling and installing manually, I even installed the Firmware LP 5.0 to see if it is fixed but can not fix the bug. As I said before I tried everything possible but only updated if I installed an AOSP rom or CM rom. Not that I do not like AOSP roms, what happens is that I lose most of the features in Touchwiz like the Spen, the camera and the VoLte. Even talk with a technician working on Google and via chat we could not solve the problem. Give me suggestions to see if I can react my unit. Thanks in advance and thanks to the Google translator.
Device: N910T
Thanks.
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I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.
Didgeridoohan said:
Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.
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Thank you for the reply. I agree but from my research I could not find custom ROMs available for the Pixel 3 that are officially supported and stable. Please recommend one if there is one that is officially supported and stable. If there is not I would like to know the steps after I root a phone to remove all the google apps and services.
https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.
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https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.
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Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services. You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora. When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.
ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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To get rid of issues, uninstall any google apps you want systemlessly using Debloater ( Terminal Emulator ).
ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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You are in luck. Get a huawei phone.
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ToughDBlue said:
Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services.
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"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
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You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora.
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MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
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When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
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No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
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Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.
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I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help
Lineage is available for Pixel 3. It is unofficial, but built by someone on the Lineage team. Check the Pixel 3xl forum. Most custom roms are posted there, but are actually for both devices. The thing is, most custom roms for the device come with GAPPs included (Including Lineage), so not useful for you. This is getting OT though.
castrum_doloris said:
"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help
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Thank you for the very detailed reply. Very helpful. I decided to get a Oneplus 7T and not a Pixel 3. I did research and found that most custom ROMs for the Oneplus 7T do not officially support Android 10 as well as MicroG and TWRP. The unofficial custom ROMs note that there are bugs and some instability currently. Being a newbie and needing my Oneplus 7T to be reliable as it's my only phone I rather have an officially supported LineageOS with MicroG custom ROM when it's released. Until then I need help figuring out the best method to remove all gapps and services. I don't use any google apps. I do use Microsoft apps so I need those to not only work but be able to send notifications. I also need to have location services work for a non-google maps app and weather app. I would like to keep Oxygen OS as it has some customizations features I like. Am I asking too much? Lol. However, since microG is not supported I don't think I can do what I'm looking for since MicroG removes all gapps and services and replaces them including location services ability and notifications. Does Magisk have a module that can do what I'm looking for?
You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.
Didgeridoohan said:
You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.
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I couldn't find the Manager downloads on the OP7T forum. Can you provide a direct link to the Manager downloads?
The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.
Didgeridoohan said:
The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.
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Got it. Thank you for your help!