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Title says it all. My phone keeps reverting to I Want to Kill Myself speeds when I know LTE and hspa are available.
I'm rooted and on Resurrection Remix.
well, you can always dial *#*#4636#*#*, or use an app that does it, to change your phone signal to lte only. but if your service provider doesnt offer volte in your area, then you will not get phone calls.
4636 doesn't offer any choice of networks. Any other ideas?
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4636 doesn't offer any choice of networks. Any other ideas?
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sure it does, and its *#*#4636#*#*. mines even on lte only, just take a look..
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Quick question:
Are our phones unable to have simultaneous voice and lte just like the phones from the previous years prior to volte?
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Quick question:
Are our phones unable to have simultaneous voice and lte just like the phones from the previous years prior to volte?
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depends whos your provider.. ive had voice and data while on voice with tmobile since 2004, at least. with verizon and sprint its different, because of their systems. but now, if on verizon, if you have volte in your area, you can have lte data while on voice. lte was strictly for data. for example, before on tmobile, when on lte, and getting a call, it automatically dropped down to hspa+ for the call. but with volte, now the calls don't drop down off lte.
Its Verizon. I remember when the Droid Turbo first came out it couldnt get simultaneous voice and data, but after the software upgrade it could use volte. I think that was true of the N6 before the upgrade too.
Do these phones not have a radio that could use hspa+ (or whatever Verizon used for simultaneous voice and data prior to volte)?
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Its Verizon. I remember when the Droid Turbo first came out it couldnt get simultaneous voice and data, but after the software upgrade it could use volte. I think that was true of the N6 before the upgrade too.
Do these phones not have a radio that could use hspa+ (or whatever Verizon used for simultaneous voice and data prior to volte)?
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they have hspa and hspa+, i don't think verizon does though. again, when on tmobile, thetes is both voice and data with h+, h, 3g, and 2g. its verizon that doesnt have it, the phones do.
Verizon has voice and data. Data comes from lte, voice comes from CDMA. The confusion comes from the fact that Verizon typically ties this ability into the same update as volte (advanced calling). Voice and data at the same time can be done on any device with advanced calling and is not dependant on location. Volte can be used anywhere you get an lte signal but only between two compatible devices. Verizon makes the whole thing needlessly confusing.
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Verizon has voice and data. Data comes from lte, voice comes from CDMA. The confusion comes from the fact that Verizon typically ties this ability into the same update as volte (advanced calling). Voice and data at the same time can be done on any device with advanced calling and is not dependant on location. Volte can be used anywhere you get an lte signal but only between two compatible devices. Verizon makes the whole thing needlessly confusing.
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You only have voice and data if one of these two are true:
1) Your phone has two antennas and modems, allowing one to be on LTE and the other on CDMA.
2) You have VoLTE enabled and are making a VoLTE call. In this case it is essentially just data being transmitted from/to your phone as VoLTE is using LTE data to send calls over VoIP.
Of course you can use Voice and WiFi also, but that's not what were talking about so.
Clarification: this is for CDMA carriers only (Sprint or Verizon) as ev-do is data only like LTE.
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My 4636 doesn't look like that? I'm on Resurrection Remix though.
A few days ago I lost any data signal from verizon. I called and aside from getting asked to do a bunch of basic things they didn't do anything to help. So I've come here hoping that one of you has an answer or if this has happened to any of you. I'm running the most recent NepoRood open kang rom and the most recent modem. My cell signal is fine and I can access internet through wifi with no problems.
checking my sim information says:
network: Verizon wireless
Signal Strength: -97 dBm 43 asu
Cellular network type: LTE
Service State: in Service
Roaming: Not Roaming
verizon cellular network state: disconnected
Suggestions, from most likely downward.
1) go into Data Usage in Settings. Is Cellular Data on? If not, turn it ON.
Here's a screenshot in my Marshmallow RR. I assume it's the same place in Nougat ROMs? If not , go find it.
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2) What APN are you using? Since you are getting a signal, but yet not connecting, your APN may not be giving you that proper authorization.
Some Verizon people on custom ROMs for some reason don't even check to make sure they're using the correct APN. Let's take a look.
3) Flash @bhb27 Clean Modem file.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24531035584725320
Can't hurt. May help. I keep a copy, along with newest modem file in my Download folder.
4) Tell us what baseband you are using? Take a screenshot in Settings, if you have to. I know you said you're using the latest. I'm double checking.
1: yes my data is on.
2: OH GEEZ THAT FIXED IT.
I don't know how, but my apn was on StraightTalk Verizon(TRACFONE.VZWENTP) and I switched it to Verizon(VZWINTERNET). I can't believe I didn't fiddle with the apn before asking, but thank you so much!
And for the record:
3: I forgot to mention it, but I already did.
4: MDM9625_41.51.07.22.04R
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2) What APN are you using? Since you are getting a signal, but yet not connecting, your APN may not be giving you that proper authorization.
Some Verizon people on custom ROMs for some reason don't even check to make sure they're using the correct APN. Let's take a look.
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2: OH GEEZ THAT FIXED IT.
I don't know how, but my apn was on StraightTalk Verizon(TRACFONE.VZWENTP) and I switched it to Verizon(VZWINTERNET). I can't believe I didn't fiddle with the apn before asking, but thank you so much!
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Glad I was able to help!
Since "S" comes before "V" alphabetically, that's why your default APN was "Straight Talk". It's been discussed in depth over in the Resurrection Remix thread, and some Verizon users were just incredulous they would even have to choose an APN or why Verizon would not be the automatic default choice.
However, even now, there's something you should check about the MMS settings on that APN. See the settings screenshot at the bottom of this post? On some custom ROMs, the VZWINTERNET APN (while the correct APN for Verizon users) had messed up MMS settings. Just double check?
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Yeah, for some reason Verizon users don't think too much about APNs. I'm not bashing, I'm just pointing out what I've noticed since the Droid Turbo XT1254 got bootloader unlocked in late 2015. Probably a combination of factors?
* Before LTE, Verizon didn't have APNs.
Yes, it's been just over 6 years ago (very late 2010) when Verizon LTE was launched, but not everyone upgraded to LTE phones immediately. Some people only got LTE phones 2 or 3 years later. There's still a lot of long-time Verizon users who think in terms of PRL (CDMA), not APN (which was previously just for GSM networks). My first Android was on a regional CDMA network, so I'm aware of PRL. Even when I got an LTE Android on that regional network, the only custom ROM available for that phone was stock-based which didn't need a different APN.
* Verizon users don't have as much experience with non-stock based custom ROMs. ROMs like CM/LOS, AOKP, AOSP, etc. Verizon locks down their bootloaders, so across their inventory their Android phones don't get as much development. (Of all the Motorola Quarks, only the Verizon model has a carrier-mandated locked down bootloader. Even the U.S. Moto XT1250, which is the identical clone to the XT1254 has an easily unlocked bootloader upon request to the manufacturer. )
With bootloader locked down and on stock firmware, when you stick a Verizon SIM card into a Verizon phone you don't have to choose an APN. Even with CF's "stock-based" debloated, tweaked Verizon Marshmallow ROM, it's built for Verizon users, so I believe no APN choice is necessary. Verizon APN is just there already.
* Coupled with all that, historically Verizon has not had as many MNVOs as AT&T and T-mobile -- a plethora of MVNOs whose APNs are now included in custom ROMs.
Yes, Straight Talk has been around and been a Verizon MVNO for a long time (they also are MVNO to AT&T, T-mobile, and Sprint) -- but for a few years Verizon would not let MVNOs have access to LTE. Even if you had a Verizon LTE phone, on an MVNO you were limited to CDMA voice and data.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/rumor-mill-verizon-wireless-mvnos-to-get-lte-q3
August 2014
Further, Verizon confirmed it is launching LTE data service for its prepaid customers for the first time. Verizon has up until now limited its prepaid customers to its 3G CDMA network.
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It was actually October 2014 before any Verizon MVNOs got LTE data. About 4 years into the less-than-7 years Verizon has had LTE. Whereas AT&T and T-mobile MVNOs had LTE access well before then, and thus Android users on those carriers (or affiliated MVNOs) with custom ROMs knew to check APNs to either choose or avoid those APNs.
But Verizon users didn't have to contend with that. Custom ROMs for them did not have MNVOs listed because Verizon MVNOs didn't have access to LTE.
All this is why some Verizon users are a little behind the learning curve on APNs. But now you know.
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"VZWINTERNET" APN
Look at the MMS settings at the bottom of this post. This part below is a re-post of mine from another thread. You've already now chosen the correct APN, so ignore that part -- just look at the MMS settings.
Check your APN. A LOT of people for some reason are on Straight Talk APN -- which has messaging issues, when they are Verizon customers and should be on Verizon APN.
In CM/LOS based custom ROMs about a dozen APNs are listed for various Verizon MNVOs. Since "S" comes before "V" the default APN ends up being the WRONG one. You should DELETE all the APNs you do not need, except for the one you will be using. This has been discussed many times in various custom ROM threads...
The correct one for Verizon customers is "VZWINTERNET". Delete ALL others, unless you are a Straight Talk customer -- in which case I feel very sorry for you. But for the CM/LOS APN you will need to edit the MMS settings.
These are the MMS settings you should have in that APN, courtesy @koftheworld, from one of those previous ROM thread discussions:
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Attached for MMS settings.
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More about Straight Talk...
Straight Talk (Verizon version) does use the Verizon network but they have the lowest priority -- as they are an MVNO using Verizon's excess capacity. Straight Talk uses proxy data servers (at least on AT&T version), so you will get slower data speeds and more lag (if the Verizon experience is similar to the AT&T version of Straight Talk), and any MVNO customers will be kicked off for "real" Verizon customers if there's any congestion. Also one of Straight Talk's practices was to batch-send messages, sometimes hours later.
If you are an actual Verizon customer paying Verizon for your account, you should not be using an MVNO's APN. At best you are being served hamburger at steak prices. At worst, you won't be served at all.
Wow, that was a lot of information. Thank you very much! It appears as though I cannot edit my APNs as the drop down menu only has a reset option, but I'll keep that in mind if that changes.
jedibob7 said:
Wow, that was a lot of information. Thank you very much! It appears as though I cannot edit my APNs as the drop down menu only has a reset option, but I'll keep that in mind if that changes.
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Edit the categories in the APN by clicking on them.
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Hello All I purchased a refurbished Urbane 2 LTE (W200A) from here .
I put in a T-Mobil SIM but it will not work, under SIM status says out of service, T-Mobil checked the IMEI # and says it is fine but might be carrier locked?
Any thoughts/ideas on this issue?
Cheers,
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Hello All I purchased a refurbished Urbane 2 LTE (W200A) from here .
I put in a T-Mobil SIM but it will not work, under SIM status says out of service, T-Mobil checked the IMEI # and says it is fine but might be carrier locked?
Any thoughts/ideas on this issue?
Cheers,
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Welcome! I've had mine now about 2 weeks.
I bought an UB2 which was unlocked.
I had the same problem. Reboot the watch made it work in my case.
I have a T-Mobile and ATT SIMs. The ATT SIM worked right away, the T-Mobile would not work right away but rebooting the watch made it work. Now that could have been coincidence, say T-Mobile takes a while before it lets an unknown IMEI into its network?
Hopefully that fixes it for you.
Next, I spent a time experimenting, moving around with the ATT and T-Mobile SIMs. I found the lack of the lower frequency bands meant it often ends up easily offline, not even 2G, that problem was more common on T-Mobile than it was on ATT.
I also found when using LTE the battery is pretty bad, whilst BT or Wifi tethered to the mobile I lose about 5% an hour, so does a reasonable job of lasting through the day, on LTE I was losing 25% an hour so 4 hours. Once I learned that, meant I'd not really be away from my phone for long periods, so I now know its more for brief periods when not having the phone is helpful. The classic use case would be running,, or short bike rides. Therefore I'd be really using it in case someone was to phone me (I use Google Voice), so given the ATT network benefit, I got a Truphone SIM which is free for incoming calls, and I use Hangouts for texting which uses less $ than sending a text. I also after having the Truphone SIM for some days learned the UB2 easily often loses the BT and Wifi signal and goes to LTE and so I was being charged for "accidental" use so I disable UB2 cellular altogether and enable when I deliberately are going without my phone.
$190 + shipping is a little high, you normally can get in the $180-$185 total including shipping on ebay. There is one for $172 but they charged state tax making it nearly $200, but I got this one for $185 and worked fine looks as-new in a slightly tatty box.
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Welcome! I've had mine now about 2 weeks.
I bought an UB2 which was unlocked.
I had the same problem. Reboot the watch made it work in my case.
I have a T-Mobile and ATT SIMs. The ATT SIM worked right away, the T-Mobile would not work right away but rebooting the watch made it work. Now that could have been coincidence, say T-Mobile takes a while before it lets an unknown IMEI into its network?
Hopefully that fixes it for you.
Next, I spent a time experimenting, moving around with the ATT and T-Mobile SIMs. I found the lack of the lower frequency bands meant it often ends up easily offline, not even 2G, that problem was more common on T-Mobile than it was on ATT.
I also found when using LTE the battery is pretty bad, whilst BT or Wifi tethered to the mobile I lose about 5% an hour, so does a reasonable job of lasting through the day, on LTE I was losing 25% an hour so 4 hours. Once I learned that, meant I'd not really be away from my phone for long periods, so I now know its more for brief periods when not having the phone is helpful. The classic use case would be running,, or short bike rides. Therefore I'd be really using it in case someone was to phone me (I use Google Voice), so given the ATT network benefit, I got a Truphone SIM which is free for incoming calls, and I use Hangouts for texting which uses less $ than sending a text. I also after having the Truphone SIM for some days learned the UB2 easily often loses the BT and Wifi signal and goes to LTE and so I was being charged for "accidental" use so I disable UB2 cellular altogether and enable when I deliberately are going without my phone.
$190 + shipping is a little high, you normally can get in the $180-$185 total including shipping on ebay. There is one for $180 but they charged state tax making it nearly $200, but I got this one for $185 and worked fine looks as-new in a slightly tatty box.
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Thanks for the feedback, I have rebooted many time and tried several sim cards., according to T-Mobil the IMEI is good for their network.
I got this for $169 so pretty good deal IMO.
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Thanks for the feedback, I have rebooted many time and tried several sim cards., according to T-Mobil the IMEI is good for their network.
I got this for $169 so pretty good deal IMO.
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$169, excellent, just the link you gave says $190 now.
So I'd say from my experience where I live (northen California) that ATT would be a better bet for the UB2's bands. It may be the case T-mobile's frequencies in your area are not overlapping the very limited bands of the UB2. T-Mobile's primary band is 12 which the UB2 doesn't have. In my case if i were outdoors i could get LTE but indoors it would go to 2G. ATT however tended to stay on LTE more often when indoors.
The other option is yours is locked. I don't know how to tell if its locked. What does SIM status (settings, cellular, SIM status) say? My working UB2 shows Network: Truphone (what I have inserted presently) Signal strength: -112dBm 29 asu , Network type: LTE , service state in service,, roaming: not roaming, network state disconnected (as I'm on my BT to my phone). When I swipe down from watch face it shows as 1 or 2 LTE bars.
When I came across some lower priced units they were in fact locked, I saw units for $170 but in fact locked, and I was told you could buy an unlock code on ebay. A quick search now indicates you can buy for about $8
I've yet to actually see a LGU2 that is locked. Some sellers assume they are but they usually aren't. I purchased mine directly from AT&T and it was never locked. The same for the Sport. Others have purchased from AT&T and used them on other providers. I guess it's possible for used watches that were activated on AT&T to be locked? Not sure though.
As far as battery usage on LTE, could it be a weak signal causing the problem? Without cellular on I use about 3%-4% an hour and when it's on I use around 5%-7% an hour. Of course if I take calls it will drain faster, but just idling doesn't affect it too much. I also set my preferred network to 3G because HSPA speeds are plenty fast enough for me and more readily available with strong signals in my area. I only exceed the 25% drainage per hour when I'm tracking runs with GPS. I have 3G on, bluetooth headphones for music and GPS tracking during runs. I can use 35% an hour running.
I only use 3G when I run so I haven't tested the data usage when i'm connected by BT. Most of the time 3G is off. I don't have GV and forward my calls to the watch during runs. I don't give out the watch's number so I don't have a reason to leave it on.
OK I have this working now, I had to mess with settings a few times and disconnected BT for LTE to come up.
Now the only issue is when making calls now, if I try to make a call via watch, the call drops almost instantly, the cellular connections drops and I have to reboot to watch to get LTE to work again.
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OK I have this working now, I had to mess with settings a few times and disconnected BT for LTE to come up.
Now the only issue is when making calls now, if I try to make a call via watch, the call drops almost instantly, the cellular connections drops and I have to reboot to watch to get LTE to work again.
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I think T-Mobile and UB2 aren't good bed fellows. I'm thinking you drop down from LTE when making a call and its really reluctant to go back to LTE.
What happens if you change from LTE preferred to say 2G or 3G preferred?
Got T Mobile APNs loaded?
Yes but is works but very sporadically, according to seller below, anyone have there phone working with add on account?
"The issue is not with the device it’s trying to use the device with Tmobile’s wearables add on. The device can be used as a standalone device as a new line with t-mobile, but if you are trying to use the wearables add on plan that won’t work.."
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Yes but is works but very sporadically, according to seller below, anyone have there phone working with add on account?
"The issue is not with the device it’s trying to use the device with Tmobile’s wearables add on. The device can be used as a standalone device as a new line with t-mobile, but if you are trying to use the wearables add on plan that won’t work.."
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That sounds fair. If it was a specific wearables T-Mobile plan you'd have to get a specific T-Mobile device. Mine worked on T-Mobile when move the SIM from my phone to the UB2. What I'm finding is the UB2 drops BT and then tends to go to LTE before Wifi and it pulls some data when no good reason, so disable cellular and enable cellular when standalone, lowers the bill.
I did phone up T-Mobile about wearables, I was considering the Samsung Gear S3, but it was plain bad value, they wanted $15/month to add a wearable, well the UB2's capabilities struggle to pull more than a few MB/day because otherwise it drains battery too much and it gets very hot and disconnects too often to use it for many calls. There are much better plans out there. I'm on Truphone which is based on ATT and mostly disable cellular when have my phone with me and enable when I leave the phone. I'm extrapolating about $5/month.
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That sounds fair. If it was a specific wearables T-Mobile plan you'd have to get a specific T-Mobile device. Mine worked on T-Mobile when move the SIM from my phone to the UB2. What I'm finding is the UB2 drops BT and then tends to go to LTE before Wifi and it pulls some data when no good reason, so disable cellular and enable cellular when standalone, lowers the bill.
I did phone up T-Mobile about wearables, I was considering the Samsung Gear S3, but it was plain bad value, they wanted $15/month to add a wearable, well the UB2's capabilities struggle to pull more than a few MB/day because otherwise it drains battery too much and it gets very hot and disconnects too often to use it for many calls. There are much better plans out there. I'm on Truphone which is based on ATT and mostly disable cellular when have my phone with me and enable when I leave the phone. I'm extrapolating about $5/month.
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So T-Mobile's wearable plan is $5 per month, but if it wont work on my UB2 then might as well be $15...
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So T-Mobile's wearable plan is $5 per month, but if it wont work on my UB2 then might as well be $15...
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You were quoted differently from me, I'm on a T-Mobile family plan, usually $20/month adding phone, asked to add a wearable, told $15. You were told $5?
Regardless if its $5, $15, $20, the UB2 can't pull much LTE through given its battery.
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You were quoted differently from me, I'm on a T-Mobile family plan, usually $20/month adding phone, asked to add a wearable, told $15. You were told $5?
Regardless if its $5, $15, $20, the UB2 can't pull much LTE through given its battery.
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Yes you are correct, after doing more research on this the $5 plan only will work with Samsung Gear S3, the LG Urbane requires a additional phone line like you were told...
So rather than pay the extra $$ per month, I will just pull my SIM out of my phone & us it in my watch if needed. I have tested this and it work perfectly.
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Yes you are correct, after doing more research on this the $5 plan only will work with Samsung Gear S3, the LG Urbane requires a additional phone line like you were told...
So rather than pay the extra $$ per month, I will just pull my SIM out of my phone & us it in my watch if needed. I have tested this and it work perfectly.
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I moved existing Sims to learn of UB2 capabilities. The rotating rear cover will lose waterproof seal if you rotate it off often.
AW2 has its weakenesses now but not expect after a couple of performance tuning releases it will improve the standalone capability, of which one of which is a backup phone if you phone breaks//lost so having a PAYG sim to fall back on is a useful safety net.
Actually seal is just like any watch, keep it lubed with silicon and replace it every year or 2 depending on climate.
What is this other carrier you using ? I do like the idea of a back up, just not for more than $5 a month.
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What is this other carrier you using ? I do like the idea of a back up, just not for more than $5 a month.
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Truphone.
Disable cellular most of the time as otherwise it will pull data for no good reason even when near phone. Then when you want to use standalone then enable cellular. Optional is forward calls from phone. I give out Google Voice number and tick the Truphone number when I want to leave the phone behind. GV turns texts into data in Hangouts. If I do this then the UB2 costs about 9 to 27 cents per day when cellular enabled. Screenshot of the May costs so far. You can extrapolate to a small monthly cost. Notice the free incoming calls, so if someone phones me when I go without my mobile.
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Truphone.
Disable cellular most of the time as otherwise it will pull data for no good reason even when near phone. Then when you want to use standalone then enable cellular. Optional is forward calls from phone. I give out Google Voice number and tick the Truphone number when I want to leave the phone behind. GV turns texts into data in Hangouts. If I do this then the UB2 costs about 9 to 27 cents per day when cellular enabled. Screenshot of the May costs so far. You can extrapolate to a small monthly cost. Notice the free incoming calls, so if someone phones me when I go without my mobile.
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Thank you for the advice, I will give them a go.
Cheers,
I do not think its any issue with the wearables thing on Tmobile. Not with this device at least. I'm all good here with mine , I did encounter this issue but it was a galaxy tab S Lte that was mobile data only , no calling / Sms features or radio so it would not connect to Tmobile.
@moderator please move this thread to the new forum we have for the Urbane 2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2
Hi. So I was having trouble with calls, signal drops, very annoying whooshing noises and so on. When I contacted the carrier they said let's turn VOLTE THEN WIFI CALLING. my wife and I have the p20 pro CLT-LO4 and neither of our phones have an option for volte or wifi calling. Contacted carrier(Koodo) I'm in canada. They said well it's suppose to be there reset you phone and check again. No dice then press *#*#4935#*#* and it does nothing. They say it's enabled on there end and don't have a solution... I called Huawei and they took my serial number and model and told me that it's the carrier 100%....
try this.
Open phone settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile network > both VoLTE calls and Wi-Fi calling settings should be there.
if you can't find, it is because the carrier disabled it in the rom. Try to unlock bootloader, root and flash an international rom to get it back.
When I talked to the carrier they assured that it was unlocked.
If you have a link on how to preform the tasks you said ide definately give it a try
Thank you
One question tho is it possible to brick the phone? Reason I'm asking is my wife's phone is 8 months old but I just switched from my s9 to this one 2 days ago so i can tech bring it back and get a refund but the problem is there isn't any other phones offered besides the p30 pro that compare and I would have to pay $690 down plus 20 a month for 24 months where as p20pro was $0 down and 15 a month.
If the carrier supports it, then you should have the option in settings. In my case, when I bought the phone only one of the two carriers that I have in each sim card was supporting WiFi calling. Now that both support it, I have it in the settings. The problem that I have found with WiFi calling though is that if you start a phone call through WiFi and you move to a place with bad reception, then the call is dropping. Also, if you are on a WiFi call and you go to a place where the wifi has no reception whatsoever, then again the call drops, instead of switching to normal call. In other words, whatever the way you make the call, you have to finish it. There is no switching during the call; this became really frustrating, so I now switched it to mobile network preferred
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Alot of misinformation about this on the net.
Regardless of what your carrier says this is in fact a carrier issue.
If you simply swap sim cards to another carrier that DOES support these features on all phones with no restrictions then it will show up in the settings.
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Alot of misinformation about this on the net.
Regardless of what your carrier says this is in fact a carrier issue.
If you simply swap sim cards to another carrier that DOES support these features on all phones with no restrictions then it will show up in the settings.
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Exactly, line one doesn't have that option but SIM 2 does .
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Exactly, line one doesn't have that option but SIM 2 does .View attachment 4878505
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This screenshot is from a Mate 20 X but the same thing shows up when I insert this sim into a P20 Pro.
(Oh....in the United States when you pop in a T-Mobile SIM you will have Volte toggle in settings but not on ATT)
sinnedone said:
This screenshot is from a Mate 20 X but the same thing shows up when I insert this sim into a P20 Pro.
(Oh....in the United States when you pop in a T-Mobile SIM you will have Volte toggle in settings but not on ATT)
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T-Mobile SIM 1 , no volte toggle here thanks for the clarification. My post was primarily to reinstate your point about WiFi being carrier/SIM dependent.
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When I talked to the carrier they assured that it was unlocked.
If you have a link on how to preform the tasks you said ide definately give it a try
Thank you
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I'll upload a video tutorial when i get back home tonight.
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try this.
Open phone settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile network > both VoLTE calls and Wi-Fi calling settings should be there.
if you can't find, it is because the carrier disabled it in the rom. Try to unlock bootloader, root and flash an international rom to get it back.
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hi i tried searching in google for the volte enable in my mobile device Huawei P20 Pro , my other sim says it is volte ready however the other sim volte radio button cant be seen i tried switching sims but everytime i switch sim the volte button will transfer leaving me a sim card tray with no volte does this mean that it is the carrier needs to enable volte? others say that i need to wait for update on my mobile device
My device has a model CLT-L29 Global version for Huawei P20 Pro EMUI version is 10.0.0 Android 10 and it says for this version there is no update for EMUI 11 so does this mean i can not use volte anymore or do i need to contact carrier for the volte to be enabled?
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If the carrier supports it, then you should have the option in settings. In my case, when I bought the phone only one of the two carriers that I have in each sim card was supporting WiFi calling. Now that both support it, I have it in the settings. The problem that I have found with WiFi calling though is that if you start a phone call through WiFi and you move to a place with bad reception, then the call is dropping. Also, if you are on a WiFi call and you go to a place where the wifi has no reception whatsoever, then again the call drops, instead of switching to normal call. In other words, whatever the way you make the call, you have to finish it. There is no switching during the call; this became really frustrating, so I now switched it to mobile network preferred
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I am also using CLT-L29 GLOBAL however only one sim has the wifi calling radio button enabled and hd calling but on sim 2 there is no volte calls radio button both sims are set to 4G i have tried switching sims but everytime i switch sims the sim that has volte calls radio button and wifi calling will move if i switch the sim cards the other sim tray no volte radio button will appear
Visiting the US and trying to find more information on this upcoming 3G shutdown.
From what I have learned from calling/chatting with T-mobile, AT&T, Sprint, Mint Mobile, Boost Mobile, Straight Talk and Consumer Cellular (** all this info is not guaranteed completely accurate as not all cell tech support people actually know everything - not a knock - how could they know everything about 1000 different handsets just saying)
Following anything you see below is certainly without warranty. I am not responsible for bricking your phone or turning it into a coffee maker.
Okay so enough disclaimer. Here is what I think I have learned:
For reference my phone is a V40 ThinQ LM-V405UA. It was manufactured for Sprint - bought it unlocked and refurbished.
AT&T has already shutdown 3G calling and all voice calls are now on VoLTE... but maybe not in all areas??
T-Mobile and it's MVNO's still have 3G operating and plan to shut it down in July.. ish...
Mint Mobile and Boost shows my IMEI to be compatible.
Consumer Cellular show my IMEI to NOT be compatible.
The AT&T store told me in person that I would NOT be able to enable VoLTE on my phone with the network since it was made for Sprint
AT&T Chat - escalated to Technical Support - confirmed that there was no way to enable VoLTE and that it would not function on their network.
Chatted with T-Mobile, Sprint and LG - they could not tell me any service codes or techniques to enable VoLTE. Each did kindly tell me I should check with LG, T-Mobile, Sprint...
*#*#4636#*#* brings up the Testing Menu
Under Phone Info you can switch on "VoLTE Provisioned"... (YES!! - right? ...not sure this does anything)
Below that is a toggle for "Wifi Calling Provisioned" . Mine is grey'd out in the off position
You can set the preferred network type - and mine is set currently to LTE/CDMA/UMTS auto (PRL) - not sure what that means but...
You can enter the "HiddenMenu" by dialing *#546368#*405#
I clicked all around and found only one thing
Click SVC Menu
Scroll down to VoWiFi (Ahaaa!! right??)
Click on Wi-Fi Calling Toggle and change the value to 1 - on
I rebooted and... no change.
I currently have a Mint Mobile sim (T-Mobile towers) and it currently works. Gleaning from what I read somewhere - if you truly have VoLTE activated and configure correctly you should be able to have data to load a web page DURING a call (with WiFi switched off). Mine fails to load during a call.
If you have VoWifi configured and activated correctly you should be able to make a phone call having Cell data switched off and attached to WiFi. Mine can not make a call.
My wife's Xioami phone does all of this and even has little VoLTE symbols at the top of the screen.
Hopefully all of this information helps someone else - but even better yet - hopefully someone can tell me if I will still have cell service in July when T-Mobile is shutting down their 3G service. Are there other tests I should be doing?
Also for fun - pulled my LG-V20 from the drawer and messing with it. It shows that WiFi Calling is WORKING... Battery is bloated but I think I had a successful test with it.
Anyway - that is where I am at. All tips, tricks and ANSWERS are appreciated.
I don't know if flashing it to the AT&T or open market version rom would do the trick but probably would. Note, since it's refurbished you sure it wasn't already reflashed to the open market version rom? If so it should work!
AT&T might have gotten confused by your description...
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My understanding, and it could be outdated, but maybe not, but at&t (supposedly) checks imei, and if it's not one of their phones, there's nothing you can do to make it work. From your description, it *sounds* like they are still doing this.
For VoWifi to work, with my mint mobile sim at least, you have to go to your mint account and turn on VoWifi ability. So not only does the phone need to be capable, the sim needs to be provisioned for it. Many people overlook this part.
There are numerous indicators of VoLTE working. Many times when you bring up the dialer there's a little HD symbol on the talk button. Other times it will give you a little LTE symbol on the status bar when making a call (and it doesn't change to 3G during call), etc.
The VoLTE situation is where 'what rom are u running?' becomes very important. The lte bands that the rom is capable of need to coincide with the carrier you want to use. The 'Open US' roms have the most bands available, and is usually a great choice for T-MO (and mvno of t-mo). Even has band 71 (which is only used by t-mo).
Lastly, for those that may not be aware, after market roms, like lineage, aren't capable of VoLTE (or VoWifi), for most LG phones. that's because LG (and Sammy) both use a 'proprietary' IMS stack, which means those Vo technologies only work on their phones with their roms.
AT&T doesn't care about who's phone it was as long it's imei isn't blacklisted.
What is important is the hardware which can't be changed or the firmware which can be changed.
My guess is the issue is the former. The carrier variant phones can have slightly different hardware configurations.
Thanks gang for the notes.
I'm running stock rom. I'm not rooted nor bootloader unlocked. I'm a bit resistant as this is my daily driver phone plus there doesn't seem to be clear confirmation that cross flashing something will really result in better performance. Add to that I won't be able to reinstall whatsapp nor my banking app etc - since my home country sim and phone number (Colombia) won't receive a confirmation text until I return there in October. Tough situation.
But I've got more test results
@AsItLies - thanks for that - I was able to enable wifi calling in the Mint app. I also called consumer cellular to confirm that my sim had volte and wifi calling enabled on their end. This was all done before testing below.
I found some exciting new settings inside the hidden menu.
Dialing *#546368#*405# choosing: Field test / GPRI VoLTE+VoWifi / IMS / Slot 0
VoLTE was enabled (possibly from steps done above in my first poat?) But I was also able to enable VoWifi ViWifi and ViLTE. I enabled them all.
After making that change I dialed the Testing menu - *#*#4636#*#* - Wifi calling Provisioned and Video calling Provisioned are still greyed out in the off position. VoLTE Provisioned is still on.
Testing - I can make a call using a Consumer cellular (At&t mvno) sim. I can not get cell data during the call though- same results as with my Mint mobile (T-mobile) sim.
I was told that At&t has already shut down all 3G calling so my phone MUST be using VoLTE if the call worked?
I have read unconfirmed reports that not all 3G calling has been shut down since some of the cell towers have not been upgraded yet... so could be I just get lucky.
My wife's phone can make calls with either sim AND get cell data during the call. (so does that prove that the nearest tower must already be upgraded?)
My wife's phone has nice symbols and setting sliders for wifi calling and volte calling - all enabled
I tried running tests with airplane mode on and wifi enabled - but it wont make a call that way on my phone or the wife's phone.
So basically it seems like nothing has changed. I'm still not convinced that I will have a working phone in July ish... Any more tips on testing and verifying that are appreciated.
It's likely running on 4G VoLTE.
This is how my Note 10+ is configured, no changes were needed.
@blackhawk - My screen looks very similar.
My preferred network type is set to - GSM/WCDMA/LTE (PRL).
I am not sure if that was the default or if I fiddled with that... I am going to dink around with that and see if changing that solves my problem. But
But I did some more testing. I was away from the house at the grocery store. I dialed my phone with Mint Mobile sim in and my 4G symbol changed to 3G and the call went through. I did have data during that time - but painfully slow.
Grabbed the wife's Xiamoi phone with her Consume Cellular (AT&T Mvno sim). Dialed and the 4G symbol stayed on and she had data of a reasonable speed.
So - I am believing... not proof... that my phone is still dropping to 3G to make calls and is skating away on the still operating 3G system of T-Mobile. Evidence that I might be without calling in July.
I should test the reverse - and pop the sim out of the wife's phone and try my phone with an AT&T sim and see if I had no calling service.... but she doesn't really like when I pop open her phone in the grocery store. She puts up with a lot - but I didn't have any "geek credits" in the bank so I will have to plan for that later...
Anyway - that is the latest.
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@blackhawk - My screen looks very similar.
My preferred network type is set to - GSM/WCDMA/LTE (PRL).
I am not sure if that was the default or if I fiddled with that... I am going to dink around with that and see if changing that solves my problem. But
But I did some more testing. I was away from the house at the grocery store. I dialed my phone with Mint Mobile sim in and my 4G symbol changed to 3G and the call went through. I did have data during that time - but painfully slow.
Grabbed the wife's Xiamoi phone with her Consume Cellular (AT&T Mvno sim). Dialed and the 4G symbol stayed on and she had data of a reasonable speed.
So - I am believing... not proof... that my phone is still dropping to 3G to make calls and is skating away on the still operating 3G system of T-Mobile. Evidence that I might be without calling in July.
I should test the reverse - and pop the sim out of the wife's phone and try my phone with an AT&T sim and see if I had no calling service.... but she doesn't really like when I pop open her phone in the grocery store. She puts up with a lot - but I didn't have any "geek credits" in the bank so I will have to plan for that later...
Anyway - that is the latest.
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Set it to that setting I'm using.
Clear Sim toolkit data.
Network reset and a reset on AT&T's side too.
The APN profile should ATT Nextgenphone I believe.
@blackhawk - thanks. I have an AT&T sim to fiddle with now (Straight talk this time).
AT&T only gives me 1 bar here in my house.
It seems no matter when I chose as my Preferred network type - I get
Out of service area / Mobile network is unavailable
SIM not provisioned for voice
But I don't have a SIM toolbox on this phone. Can I get that installed without root? Can you point me in that direction. Because maybe that is what I need to do next is clear that - especially since I keep popping in random sim cards.
Thanks again
Oh - skip that - brain dead. I got the sim toolkit cleared...
On with the testing!
Did some testing again with my Mint SIM - i get 4 bars here...
Did you know that you can have the dialer, Testing menu and Sim Toolkit settings page open/split screen or background screens at the same time? Well that saves some time... By the way the HiddenMenu won't stay open as a background page... Just so you know.
So here is my testing sequence: Wifi switched off. Dial the local automated weather number and then switching to the Testing menu to watch the reported "Voice Network Type" . Record results. Enable Airplane mode. Got to Sim Toolbox and clear data. Disable Airplane mode and try a new "Voice Network Type".
Basically all of the settings for "Set preferred network type:" that include UMTS or GSM will work. But the Voice type drops to GSM or UMTS. Data drops to UMTS , HSPAP or sometimes EDGE. 5 seconds after the call ends the Phone Info page reports "Voice Network Type" and "Data Network Type" as LTE.
Any settings like LTE Only or something that doesn't include UMTS in it - the calls just fail. Actually - if the "GSM Service" inside Testing Menu/Phone Info reported "Emergency Calls Only" under "GSM Service" - then you can bet the call failed. Despite really wanting to do complete testing - I did not dial 911 to see if it would work. Just seemed wrong to potentially interrupt a real emergency - even in nowhere USA.
I found some more interesting settings inside HiddenMenu / IMS Setting / GPRI VoLTE / Slot - 0 / Roaming
Inside there are VoLTE and VoWifi - I enabled all the roaming options inside each.
But - alas no change to my tests so far.
I tested the Wife's phone on Straight talk and the Mint sim = VoLTE symbol
So that is one AT&T and one T-Mobile MVNO
Preferred Network Type: LTE/TD-SCDMA/UMTS
Worked great. Testing page showed that the voice call stayed on LTE. I enabled Wifi and tried getting it to transfer to a VoWifi call but - even with 1 bar it wouldn't go. If you have 0 bars it won't initiate a call. Probably a security thing as they don't know if you are a real subscriber??
Anyway - I think that proves?? that my phone is still not doing any VoLTE nor VoWifi calling and will likely fail or have extreme problems as the 3G network fades away.
On my N10+ the hidden menu stays open until I close it. Makes things easier.
Get the carrier advanced tech support to troubleshoot it if possible. You probably know more about than me at this point.
I can highly recommend a Note 10+ N975U1, they run great on Android 9 or 10; Android 11 and especially 12 not so much so. I have two, just bought another new one about 5 months ago.
It's a better flagship Samsung than the ones Samsung released after it in my opinion.
New factory sealed ones are available still for $800 and used ones in "excellent" condition for half of that. In a good case they will easily last 3+ years with only battery replacements. The one in my hand is 2.5 yo and looks/runs like new with zero display degradation. It's heavily used. Current OS load will be 2 yo in June, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. Supports up to 1tb expandable storage.
Both the N975U (AT&T variant) and the N975U1 (unlocked) run seamlessly on AT&T. There's a 5G variant but it will likely eat more battery.
It's display is one of the best, maybe the best in any smartphone even today It's gorgeous with an exceptional color rendering index and white point. Being 60hz means less power consumption and better color rendering/calibration, great for vids.
It's just a snappy fast fun work horse of a phone that has excellent build quality.
Lately Samsung and Google Android have been subpar... dropping balls.
That is a smoking fast phone! I may have to give this phone up and move on. But that has issues of it's own as I will still have to keep this phone around because there are a bunch of apps I won't be able to install on a new phone because I can't get my sms confirmation until I get back to South America. But not a whole lot of other options.
Thanks again,
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That is a smoking fast phone! I may have to give this phone up and move on. But that has issues of it's own as I will still have to keep this phone around because there are a bunch of apps I won't be able to install on a new phone because I can't get my sms confirmation until I get back to South America. But not a whole lot of other options.
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It's a true pain migrating to a new device. I hope you get that one successfully running on VoLTE.
If you like that large of a display, it's form factor is still the best. Better display to bevel ratio too. Lighter and thinner the S22U with better SOT.
Watch this vid where the N10+ literally smokes the S22U after both rams get loaded up with apps. wtf? I'll take the dinosaur Note...