I have had custom Roms on my fire tablet for a long time now but I don't use it much any more so I want to give it to my toddler for the most part. So can I return it to stock but still keep root and such or once I go back stock would I have to start over?
djwyman said:
I have had custom Roms on my fire tablet for a long time now but I don't use it much any more so I want to give it to my toddler for the most part. So can I return it to stock but still keep root and such or once I go back stock would I have to start over?
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Returning to 'stock' involves sideloading the highest version of FireOS that was on the device -or- the highest rootable build (at present 5.3.1) to avoid bricking the device.
You would then need to reroot and customize the device to your liking.
djwyman said:
I have had custom Roms on my fire tablet for a long time now but I don't use it much any more so I want to give it to my toddler for the most part. So can I return it to stock but still keep root and such or once I go back stock would I have to start over?
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In addition to sideload and reroot, you must reblock OTAs.
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I may just go back stock and pay to remove the adds since that's all I really want anyway. It's going to be for a 2 year old and I want to use free time again so it's more kid friendly.
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Had OD and loved having it rooted. (My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb) Had to upgrade to Bionic and while I love it am missing root.
I've been searching online and between info about root and the upcoming ICS update I am getting confused.
Should I root now and wait for ICS? Or wait for ICS then root?
It seems pretty likely that there will be ICS based ROMs available long before Motorola gets around to releasing an official OTA update.
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(My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb)
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You need not be rooted at all. If you don't know exactly what you're doing, you should NOT be rooted because you WILL brick your phone.
If you really want to be rooted, you need to do some research and get more familiar with it, what it's for, how it works, and what it can do to your phone.
You probably want to be pretty familiar with ADB too.
I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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Yea I understand about going back. I had to go back just to get the webtop working in 5.7.893. I did the incremental one and lost webtop. used the R3l3AS3DRoot_Windows_V2.1 to go back to the 886 then used the single file update to 5.7 and everything works great. I would probably root if I could get free wifi hotspot so I could use my XOOM thru my phone cause I don't want to pay the hotspot or extra for more 4G bandwidth for my XOOM since my phone is unlimited
I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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Even if you did do it by yourself, if you don't know where to go from there, I wouldnt do it.
Its fun seeing the ROMs that are put out but unless that tutor is available I wouldnt do it. Bricking your phone isnt cool.
Rooting really isn't that big a deal once you have some idea what you are doing.
I have had 3 rooted phones and have rooted/jailbroke/hacked just about every other electronic device in my entire house at one point or another.
Do your research, and make sure you follow the instructions. Of course it also helps if you are familiar with ADB and a command shell so you know what the commands you are running actually do too.
Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Exactly. Motorola will have to start all over with Blur, that is gonna take forever. Rooting a phone with a decent developer community will always mean you have access to the new toys well before the OTA updates.
At the OP, You should have also ran the 43V3R root when you did R3L3AS3DRoot. I'm not an expert on android software and rooting but when I had my X2 I did some minimal research and haven't ran into any problems. When I got my Bionic I rooted it within the first 20 min of getting it. The tools that Dhacker put out (R3L3AS3DRoot, etc.) are amazing and rather easy for someone who is less experienced. They also make it nearly impossible to brick your phone as you can just run it again to get back to stock. Not to say you should just rush into things with reckless abandon.
If you do some research and read EVERYTHING that a developer provides as a guide to flashing their ROM, mod, hack, etc. you'll most likely be ok. Just do everything in small steps. As to your question about ICS though, do like I said. I know it's a pain but backup all your apps and run the R3L3AS3DRoot again, but then also run 43V3R root and intall Cheesecake. All of these can be done with the same tool. Then flash the 5.7.893 update and bam, you have the latest version and your still rooted. You may have to reinstall Super User from the market though.
As far as how useful having a rooted phone is, it all depends on what you will actually take advantage of. One of the simplest things is to just flash a custom ROM and enjoy the changes the developer has made. Liberty is top notch and I would reccomend it to a "newb". Personally I am quite satisfied with stock and would rather customize everything to my own personal satisfaction. If you go that route there are still great things out there. I'm using the V8 Supercharger script and ROM toolbox. TBH I'm not really sure what I'm doing with scripts but there was a good guide for the V8S one and I would highly suggest ROM toolbox. You can use it to install custom fonts, boot animations, download and install custom ROMs (though I think it only supports liberty (haven't tested it)) freeze or uninstall bloatware apps. Basically it's about 10 or so apps in one and it's very user friendly.
Wow this is getting way longer than I planned so here's the:
TL;DR
Do research til you feel comfortable. Read EVERYTHING any developer gives you as a guide. Don't rush into things. And looks at all your options. Rooting gives you access to a few neat tools and hacks to get everything you can out of your phone. Just keep R3L3AS3DRoot handy and you have a very low chance of completely bricking your phone. Also as a disclaimer, I'm not responsible if you completely wreck your phone.
Edit: Adding some links to helpful reads.
FAQs, highly recommend.
List of all ROMs and most tools, etc.
UOT Kitchen, very user friendly way to theme your phone. PM me if you want to use this because there are certain things you must do and things you cannot do.
Hope I have helped a bit.
R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R Root were easier than expected.
I say go for root that update is a few months away anyways just make sure you know what you're doing.
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I don't reside in the US so sending my kindle back to amazon would prove to be a little difficult if not expensive.
I've rooted/unlocked android phones before, but the knidle, based on what I've read on diff threads, may be more risky. Is is true that there isn't a way yet of going back to stock if you mess up the stock rom?
I would definitely like to root it to install apps particularly gapps, I've found 2 ways to root it, the automated and the manual, which one is less risky?
darkzero28 said:
I don't reside in the US so sending my kindle back to amazon would prove to be a little difficult if not expensive.
I've rooted/unlocked android phones before, but the knidle, based on what I've read on diff threads, may be more risky. Is is true that there isn't a way yet of going back to stock if you mess up the stock rom?
I would definitely like to root it to install apps particularly gapps, I've found 2 ways to root it, the automated and the manual, which one is less risky?
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The automated way is definitely going to be the safest way, it eliminates the chance of you imputing a command wrong.
The risk is not in the rooting process itself, it is what people do after the device is rooted that is risky. If you plan on doing mods to the device you should make a backup immediately after root, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930656
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The automated way is definitely going to be the safest way, it eliminates the chance of you imputing a command wrong.
The risk is not in the rooting process itself, it is what people do after the device is rooted that is risky. If you plan on doing mods to the device you should make a backup immediately after root, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930656
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Thanks, will try this tomorrow. hoepfully I don't brick it or something lol
Finally got a new phone and after a couple of years of flashing ROMs on my previous one, and I'm lost. Got too used to rooted ROMs!
In the near future, will there be any easier way to root 4.4? I have a T-Mobile Moto X and I know there are other ways at the moment to gain root, but I don't know if it's worth the risk of messing up my phone right now. I don't want to revert back to stock as I hear it is a pain.. (or is it) and I actually love me some Kitkat 4.4, but I'm stumped because I miss many rooted apps that I use to use on my old phone.
What do you guys think? Worth waiting it out? Or is this sort of thing far fetched at this point?
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Finally got a new phone and after a couple of years of flashing ROMs on my previous one, and I'm lost. Got too used to rooted ROMs!
In the near future, will there be any easier way to root 4.4? I have a T-Mobile Moto X and I know there are other ways at the moment to gain root, but I don't know if it's worth the risk of messing up my phone right now. I don't want to revert back to stock as I hear it is a pain.. (or is it) and I actually love me some Kitkat 4.4, but I'm stumped because I miss many rooted apps that I use to use on my old phone.
What do you guys think? Worth waiting it out? Or is this sort of thing far fetched at this point?
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Seeing as though the T-Mo version can be unlocked, just unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and flash SU from recovery and you're rooted. Aside from one-clicks, it doesn't get much easier than that.
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Seeing as though the T-Mo version can be unlocked, just unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and flash SU from recovery and you're rooted. Aside from one-clicks, it doesn't get much easier than that.
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It's not such a pain.
Follow this guide...you'll be done in an hour and good to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
I am returning my phone back to stock so I can trade it in. I found a few threads on here that have ways to unroot but some seem questionable. Can anyone point me in the right direction to unroot an official Kit Kat updated device?
Thanks
Assuming you have supersu, uninstall all of your apps that have root access (for safestrap, busybox, etc make sure to uninstall the in-app stuff first), i would reboot here but that may not be necessary...then open up supersu and choose "full unroot". Then factory reset and double check status is official ☺
If you get a custom screen after that try rerooting then full unroot with supersu again
Edit: I stand corrected - flashing NC2 with Odin is easiest
Yeah I have su. So before I do this should I restore my stock rom I have backed up via safestrap? I am currently running dynamic kat 5.0
You can also reinstall factory firmware with Odin, then factory reset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703006
Awesome, I will give that a try when my upgrade is closer. Thank you
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You can also reinstall factory firmware with Odin, then factory reset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703006
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konaman said:
Awesome, I will give that a try when my upgrade is closer. Thank you
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Yea @440bro 's suggestion is way easier since Odin removes all of that! unroot with SuperSU does work but it's a long way around for just returning to stock
please help
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You can also reinstall factory firmware with Odin, then factory reset.
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]I have similar situation except I have an iMac running OS X Mavericks. Could anyone tell me if it's possible to unroot my AT&T Note 3 to stock ROM to sell? I installed stock custom rom using safestrap but when I reboot or turn device on, I get a safestrap enabled cartoon thing asking to continue or recover. I don't think people will want to buy phone if they saw this sick looking robot thing when they switch it on. Please help...Phone too big for my hands. Thank you
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440bro said:
You can also reinstall factory firmware with Odin, then factory reset.
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]I have similar situation except I have an iMac running OS X Mavericks. Could anyone tell me if it's possible to unroot my AT&T Note 3 to stock ROM to sell? I installed stock custom rom using safestrap but when I reboot or turn device on, I get a safestrap enabled cartoon thing asking to continue or recover. I don't think people will want to buy phone if they saw this sick looking robot thing when they switch it on. Please help...Phone too big for my hands. Thank you
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Did you backup stock rom before you flashed the custom rom in safestrap? if yes, reflash your backup in safestrap then the steps in post #2 should work. If no, I'm really not sure how going through that unroot process with SuperSU while still on a custom rom would work out...Odin is much easier and more reliable so if there's any way you can get to a PC you might want to go that route.
Also if you're selling online you might find some people who do want to buy a rooted Note 3...I sold a phone on swappa a few months ago and there were people looking specifically for rooted phones. The 'cartoon thing' is safestrap and is exactly what you want to see when you turn on a rooted AT&T Note 3
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thank you
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You can also reinstall factory firmware with Odin, then factory reset.
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]I have similar situation except I have an iMac running OS X Mavericks. Could anyone tell me if it's possible to unroot my AT&T Note 3 to stock ROM to sell? I installed stock custom rom using safestrap but when I reboot or turn device on, I get a safestrap enabled cartoon thing asking to continue or recover. I don't think people will want to buy phone if they saw this sick looking robot thing when they switch it on. Please help...Phone too big for my hands. Thank you
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braddy66 said:
Did you backup stock rom before you flashed the custom rom in safestrap? if yes, reflash your backup in safestrap then the steps in post #2 should work. If no, I'm really not sure how going through that unroot process with SuperSU while still on a custom rom would work out...Odin is much easier and more reliable so if there's any way you can get to a PC you might want to go that route.
Also if you're selling online you might find some people who do want to buy a rooted Note 3...I sold a phone on swappa a few months ago and there were people looking specifically for rooted phones. The 'cartoon thing' is safestrap and is exactly what you want to see when you turn on a rooted AT&T Note 3
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Thanks for your feel good message...made my day. I thought I backed up stock rom however being an obviously root virgin...When I went to factory reset, everything was gone except for my ugly cartoony friend. Luckily I am able to read in small doses so I was able to do whatever it was I did to get her running factory...still rooted and unlocked. When you mentioned that people on swappa might be interested in a rooted device WITH my lonely friend at startup? I felt all fuzzy. I will post an ad on swappa later today in your honor my mysterious phoneguardian angel. Thanks again.
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Looks like I'll need to go the long route to unroot. I have a Mac book and I can't find Odin for it
I am going to be selling my Nexus 6. Currently, it is rooted and I have CyanogenMod 12.1 and TWRP installed. Should I revert back to stock, or is it worth more money if I sell it in its current condition?
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I am going to be selling my Nexus 6. Currently, it is rooted and I have CyanogenMod 12.1 and TWRP installed. Should I revert back to stock, or is it worth more money if I sell it in its current condition?
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Hi, your best bet would be to look on Swappa and see the completed sales in both areas. Oh and BTW, there's an app for that now too. Swappa app that is.
Also, have a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-properly-prepare-nexus-6-resale-t3104504
hb97 said:
I am going to be selling my Nexus 6. Currently, it is rooted and I have CyanogenMod 12.1 and TWRP installed. Should I revert back to stock, or is it worth more money if I sell it in its current condition?
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You should restore it to 100% stock if you`re gona sell it. Not everyone wants to root their phone And make sure to delete your Google account (check it by data factory resetting the phone and rebooting) so the next owner can access the phone without inserting your code or doing a unlocking patern of wich he has no knowledge off..