After flashing the andromod x kernel...the phone works fine and battery life is above avg but somehow antutu benchmark scores falls down from 84k to 63k on Resurrection remix 5.8.2 February build....who else is having this problem??
And does anybody have any fix???
Gray90 said:
After flashing the andromod x kernel...the phone works fine and battery life is above avg but somehow antutu benchmark scores falls down from 84k to 63k on Resurrection remix 5.8.2 February build....who else is having this problem??
And does anybody have any fix???
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I have also getting that, but don't go after AnTuTu scores, just check performance n battery life..
tumonh said:
I have also getting that, but don't go after AnTuTu scores, just check performance n battery life..
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The battery life has surely increased but how am I suppose to judge the performance???
A benchmarking app is the only way to do that....and antutu is the most famous benchmarking app out there....
I heard that risabh rao used the march build of RR and got 89k,maybe this kernel will performed better with the future builds...what do u think???
I can also install andromodx on lineage 13 stable I was shocked I will get only 52k scores on antutu benchmark what I can do...
Gray90 said:
The battery life has surely increased but how am I suppose to judge the performance???
A benchmarking app is the only way to do that....and antutu is the most famous benchmarking app out there....
I heard that risabh rao used the march build of RR and got 89k,maybe this kernel will performed better with the future builds...what do u think???
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I am also waiting for his next RR build to check it. Neway I don't find performance lag in right now, antutu may show 64k but may be in next builds rishabh will fine tune the kernel with his builds..
tumonh said:
I am also waiting for his next RR build to check it. Neway I don't find performance lag in right now, antutu may show 64k but may be in next builds rishabh will fine tune the kernel with his builds..
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After a lot of testing I found out that antutu on RR 5.8.2 Feb build with andromodx does not uses the full clock speed of the processor....
During the whole benchmark the clock speed is around 853mhz where as it should be 1873mhz...a huge difference..... To confirm this I measured the temperatures and found out that it only reaches 38.5 C....where as Lineage OS 14.1 march build with stock kernel has a temperature of 43 C and a score of 84K....it should be noted that even in lineage OS 14.1 march build with andromodx the temperature drops to 39 C and the score drops to 77K....
Gray90 said:
After a lot of testing I found out that antutu on RR 5.8.2 Feb build with andromodx does not uses the full clock speed of the processor....
During the whole benchmark the clock speed is around 853mhz where as it should be 1873mhz...a huge difference..... To confirm this I measured the temperatures and found out that it only reaches 38.5 C....where as Lineage OS 14.1 march build with stock kernel has a temperature of 43 C and a score of 84K....it should be noted that even in lineage OS 14.1 march build with andromodx the temperature drops to 39 C and the score drops to 77K....
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The solutions is on AndroModX please disable themal
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DarknessKiller said:
The solutions is on AndroModX please disable themal
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There is no button to completely disable the thermal.... If u can help then it will be appreciable....
Thanks in advance....
in each rom my phone show 1.4 ghz in 8core how can i over clock the cpu to 1.8 ghz or this that a issue with all the roms?
I also have this issue, even antutu score become 44000 !
I'm using los 14.1 latest build
I found that the A72 CPU cluster is disabled!
Guys report it in lineage thread
piku 123 said:
Guys report it in lineage thread
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Done
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73632473&postcount=2995
I fixed it by going back to MM, maybe it is a bug in nougat.
Try flashing a custom kernel and see if it helps
Flash this kernel, it may rectify the problem:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-2/development/andromodx-kernel-t3529576
I monitored the GPU and it does not stay 600mhz in heavy games.
Setting 600mhz in the Kernel Adiutor, the fps increases for a few seconds but then GPU drops to 400mhz and decreases frames.
Using CarbonROM.
With someone else does this happen?
INFO
-Kernel with some CPU governors alongside ThunderPlug Hotplug adapted from XePeleato's ESAL kernel, NOTHING MORE.
-This kernel for Nougat ROMs.
-Based on OpenKirin's kernel https://github.com/OpenKirin/android_kernel_huawei_hi6210sft/tree/7.x
-tested on RR ROM.
Tip...
from ESAL kernel thread
Guide
I am going to try to help you to decide what settings you should apply
First of all, I recommend to install Kernel Adiutor.
If you prefer battery life:
Start Kernel Adiutor:
Go to CPU in the drop-down menu and set as governors PMC or Smartmax
Then go to CPU hotplug and don't enable many cores, since more online cores means more power used. You can also set the Endurance level to Quad-core
If you prefer performance:
Start Kernel Adiutor:
Go to CPU in the drop-down menu and set as governors performance (will set the CPUs to their max frequency)/ondemand/interactive
Then go to CPU hotplug and make sure to lower the load threshold, having a low load threshold will make your phone use more cores (if you experience lag while playing, maybe it's set too low, so use a wise value, do your testing.)
To conclude, I just mentioned where the settings are and some example values, if you love to play games you won't use the same settings as someone that just likes to read emails and use Google Chrome, find the settings you are comfortable with, and don't forget to set Apply on boot!
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Download
image-new.img
Credits
OpenKirin team
Source
alice_kernel
From Kernel Adiutor app
Should I backup boot partition from twrp before flash this kernel? I'm in Colt OS ROM from surdu
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elraffa said:
Should I backup boot partition from twrp before flash this kernel?
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Yes, just for safety ,as you may face some issues with this image.
hi , i installed the image-new.img file and flashed it via twrp , the boot , recovery and OEMinfo imgs and now when i start my phone i get a red screen and then it brings up the stock recovery , pls help
amiriboy123 said:
hi , i installed the image-new.img file and flashed it via twrp , the boot , recovery and OEMinfo imgs and now when i start my phone i get a red screen and then it brings up the stock recovery , pls help
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What recovery and OEM images! , it's just the boot image .
Anyway if you still didn't fix it ,try this .
Reboot to bootloader "keep pressing lower button with power button"
Then flash the TWRP recovery "fastboot flash recovery twrp3.x.x.img"
Now reboot to TWRP recovery and restore your backup if you have one, or install a full ROM
I had tested this kernel and is amazing how much it improve the battery between 14 and 18 hours but I'm getting some lag with PMC and smartmax governor. I'm trying interactive governor and it has less lag but still there is a bit. Is there any option to get a balanced performance without lag?
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elraffa said:
I had tested this kernel and is amazing how much it improve the battery between 14 and 18 hours but I'm getting some lag with PMC and smartmax governor. I'm trying interactive governor and it has less lag but still there is a bit. Is there any option to get a balanced performance without lag?
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Try one of these and test.
1. Enable touch boost and lowering load threshold to maybe 50℅ , in CPU hotplug settings.
2. If you want, you may disable the hotplug and be satisfied with the PMC governor.
Thanks a lot, this kirin 620 is so freaking boring and lacks a lot of control maybe finally with that kernel i can be happy again. I'll test it on my Y6ii running RR 5.8.5, just one question tho; does this kernel since it has lots of other governors allows me to fully control the 8 cores ? (I'll test it and post here but thought maybe somebody already have the answer)
Salazar33 said:
Thanks a lot, this kirin 620 is so freaking boring and lacks a lot of control maybe finally with that kernel i can be happy again. I'll test it on my Y6ii running RR 5.8.5, just one question tho; does this kernel since it has lots of other governors allows me to fully control the 8 cores ? (I'll test it and post here but thought maybe somebody already have the answer)
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8 cores working
Cheak in systempanel2
Adi5 said:
8 cores working
Cheak in systempanel2
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I am pretty sure only 4 cores work, yes there is actually 8 cores but under all conditions and using all possible governors from all available kernels there is always only 4 cores working! I am sure that the other 4 cores are disabled completely on the chip so no software modification can make them work! ( kinda the same situation on desktop CPU where its called a dummy die, basically its present there and electrically connected but servers no purpose but being there ).
Why i am pretty sure! is because i've done tons of testing using lots of benchmark apps; by using the single core and multi threaded score, you can notice that the score multiplier always end up round 4, i even checked older gen CPUs benchmark and they're doing much better scoring in 99% of the apps i tested. And besides, lets talk real word tasks! Does that P8Lite/Y6II feel like a powerbuffed 8 core threaded phone? My old S5 with the quad core Snapdragon 805 Soc does a better job in most cases if not all!
I think Huawei just used an Soc with dummy dies just for marketing purposes, as most users would never try to investigate the real performance of the chip and just use the phone for daily stuff so hearing the word 8 cores CPU with "XX" price really pushes you into buying it! I will test more but i am pretty sure i'll find that same result!
salembream said:
Try one of these and test.
1. Enable touch boost and lowering load threshold to maybe 50℅ , in CPU hotplug settings.
2. If you want, you may disable the hotplug and be satisfied with the PMC governor.
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I tried both of these in all governors but still I'm having some lag, even in a fresh install of Colt OS ROM.
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Salazar33 said:
I am pretty sure only 4 cores work, yes there is actually 8 cores but under all conditions and using all possible governors from all available kernels there is always only 4 cores working! I am sure that the other 4 cores are disabled completely on the chip so no software modification can make them work! ( kinda the same situation on desktop CPU where its called a dummy die, basically its present there and electrically connected but servers no purpose but being there ).
Why i am pretty sure! is because i've done tons of testing using lots of benchmark apps; by using the single core and multi threaded score, you can notice that the score multiplier always end up round 4, i even checked older gen CPUs benchmark and they're doing much better scoring in 99% of the apps i tested. And besides, lets talk real word tasks! Does that P8Lite/Y6II feel like a powerbuffed 8 core threaded phone? My old S5 with the quad core Snapdragon 805 Soc does a better job in most cases if not all!
I think Huawei just used an Soc with dummy dies just for marketing purposes, as most users would never try to investigate the real performance of the chip and just use the phone for daily stuff so hearing the word 8 cores CPU with "XX" price really pushes you into buying it! I will test more but i am pretty sure i'll find that same result!
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Nope, all cores are working, we have 2x4 cores. You can find it in dts!
Second cluster is working but apps can't get info about second cluster usage because there's no cpufreq folder inside cpu4/cpu5/cpu6/cpu7 folders which you can find here: /sys/devices/system/cpu.
Another proof? Here you are.
Go to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu7 (this is "directory" of our not working 8 CPU), then open file called 'online'.
Hint:
1 means it is on
2 means it is off
Salazar33 said:
I am pretty sure only 4 cores work, yes there is actually 8 cores but under all conditions and using all possible governors from all available kernels there is always only 4 cores working! I am sure that the other 4 cores are disabled completely on the chip so no software modification can make them work! ( kinda the same situation on desktop CPU where its called a dummy die, basically its present there and electrically connected but servers no purpose but being there ).
Why i am pretty sure! is because i've done tons of testing using lots of benchmark apps; by using the single core and multi threaded score, you can notice that the score multiplier always end up round 4, i even checked older gen CPUs benchmark and they're doing much better scoring in 99% of the apps i tested. And besides, lets talk real word tasks! Does that P8Lite/Y6II feel like a powerbuffed 8 core threaded phone? My old S5 with the quad core Snapdragon 805 Soc does a better job in most cases if not all!
I think Huawei just used an Soc with dummy dies just for marketing purposes, as most users would never try to investigate the real performance of the chip and just use the phone for daily stuff so hearing the word 8 cores CPU with "XX" price really pushes you into buying it! I will test more but i am pretty sure i'll find that same result!
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Some apps can detect the real cores, like system2 and lspeed, there you can see that is has real 8 cores in 2 clusters I guess, this is why the second 4 cores are almost "invisible" and it's usable under high loads, like games and apps.
kosmitchak said:
Nope, all cores are working, we have 2x4 cores. You can find it in dts!
Second cluster is working but apps can't get info about second cluster usage because there's no cpufreq folder inside cpu4/cpu5/cpu6/cpu7 folders which you can find here: /sys/devices/system/cpu.
Another proof? Here you are.
Go to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu7 (this is "directory" of our not working 8 CPU), then open file called 'online'.
Hint:
1 means it is on
2 means it is off
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I think, 4 cores for Foreground and 4 cores for background processes, for stable switching from app to app! Maybe I am wrong, correct me if I am!
I was doing more tests to this kernel and found out this page to improve interactive governor
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3269557
I installed ex kernel manager app and load a profile (thanks to Dazeone), battery was improved notoriously and performance is very good. I share the link and the profile file (copy to internal storage/ElementalX/gov_profiles) just in case someone wants to try.
https://mega.nz/#!YQBhRJQT!ZNRuOoD7x4pUID2efRwhUCM01aKmp8gGNK7IBSrD1jo
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Kernel update
@salembream Are you going to update or add more governor to your nougat kernel?
elraffa said:
@salembream Are you going to update or add more governor to your nougat kernel?
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No, sorry.
If you want a certain feature I may try to do it, but after 2 weeks.
Also you may want to try build it by your self, there are plenty tutorial in XDA-forums, I did that without any knowledge of anything ,lol .
D1stRU3T0R said:
Some apps can detect the real cores, like system2 and lspeed, there you can see that is has real 8 cores in 2 clusters I guess, this is why the second 4 cores are almost "invisible" and it's usable under high loads, like games and apps.
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kosmitchak said:
Nope, all cores are working, we have 2x4 cores. You can find it in dts!
Second cluster is working but apps can't get info about second cluster usage because there's no cpufreq folder inside cpu4/cpu5/cpu6/cpu7 folders which you can find here: /sys/devices/system/cpu.
Another proof? Here you are.
Go to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu7 (this is "directory" of our not working 8 CPU), then open file called 'online'.
Hint:
1 means it is on
2 means it is off
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I don't have enough knowledge about kernels or such to argue i am more of a computer guy, so i did put it in a very simple way, besides apps detecting or not detecting those extra 4 cores, through benchmarks the multiplier you get from dividing the multi threaded performance number by the single core performance number is always around 4 and i've seen this same result in like 5 benchmark apps.
Another theory (if you wanna call it that), this Kirin 8 core cpu even though it newer can't match the performance of some old quad core snapdragons CPUs, as i said my old S5 (With 805 not 801) is doing significantly better in all tasks! without forgetting the ability to shoot video in 4K and its way older as well!
Maybe its really 8 cores but i only see the performance of a quad core chip (even slower imo), tried to compare it to a friend's S4 with an exynos quad core and they did match up a bit.
And i'd be really thankful if you can correct me and throw some knowledge at me!
The performance of CPU is controlled by many factors,
Cores, frequency, ALU structure, OS, application's threading, and more.. so u can't compare 2 SoCs by number of cores.
Moreover, the people in this forum mis-understand something, that the 8 core CPU is built to reduce energy consumption, NOT to improve performance.
To make long story short, 8 core performance =\= 8 * single core performance.
Refer to this article please, https://m.hexus.net/tech/tech-explained/cpu/48693-tech-explained-arm-biglittle-processing/
Hello, as I mentioned I am facing low fps and poor performance in pubg and when I ran the geekbench test it games 1k in singlecore and 3k in multicore test. I am using stock oos oreo with blushark( I don't remember the name lol) kernal with unlocked bootloader. It also shows only 3 cores idk why, and the score is very low compared to other scores on browser.geekbench which shows 2k for single core and 5.5k for multicore. Please help!
I'll try to keep updating my research on this.
I did a hard reset and installed omni rom 8.1 which got me a 80% increase in single core benchmark (~1850) and 25% increase in multi core benchmark(~3925). Single core benchmarks are now around the same as of what others test results are showing in browser.geekbench, but multicore benchmark is still less. :/
Aah I settled on omni ROM 8.1 with caesium kernel and disabled touchboost and changed big cluster governer to ondemand from conservative. I now could play pubg smoothly on 1280x720p with high graphics and extreme fps thanks to gfx tool app before I couldn't even play the game with so smooth graphics and 956x500 blah blah resolution. I noticed the CPU would throttle down and reduce the frequencies for big cluster to like ~1530mhz and little to ~1350 MHz but the gameplay was good.
Assassin P780 said:
I'll try to keep updating my research on this.
I did a hard reset and installed omni rom 8.1 which got me a 80% increase in single core benchmark (~1850) and 25% increase in multi core benchmark(~3925). Single core benchmarks are now around the same as of what others test results are showing in browser.geekbench, but multicore benchmark is still less. :/
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Stock kernel will give you the best results IMO. Try the Bane kernel, is good too
nickpapeir said:
Stock kernel will give you the best results IMO. Try the Bane kernel, is good too
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Will try that too! Thanks!
The stock kernel gave me the above result 1850 singlecore and 3900 for multicore and after caesium kernel I got 4050 in multicore and 1650 in single core. But I don't how to go back to stock kernel without reinstalling the rom :/
Assassin P780 said:
... But I don't how to go back to stock kernel without reinstalling the rom :/
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Use a file manager, such as Solid Explorer, to copy boot.img from the ROM zip file and flash it in TWRP by selecting Image in the install option.
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I am back on the stock kernel of omni rom 8.1 which gives me a average score of 1900 in single core and 3900 in multicore tests and pubg runs great on hdr 720p 60fps although it doesn't run at full 60 fps and there are some stutters here and there but gameplay is very good.
Simple fact: oos sucks except its face unlock.