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Hello all.
This is my very first post here. So, first of all I want to say many thanks to all developers/members on this forum. Big thanks for sharing knowledge, for doing great investigations and so on.
And right now... questions...
I recently bought Sony Xperia X8. This is my first Android device (I helped my friends with these ones, but just to reflash using manufacturer steps, or configuring devices, not customizing) with which I can do anything I want. I read a lot information about this device and need to clear some things... So, lets start:
(Just for note: I 'm an experienced linux programmer/developer/user, so I have a lot of experience and need just some specific things)
1. What is bootloader in meaning of specific device. Is this something like plain Grub, but just hardware-related? Or it is something like BIOS in PCs meaning?
2. What does ROM file contains? Is that just list of packages and platform-related things excluding kernel, loader and etc, or ROMs contains kernel also? I saw post where someone said "I use xxxx kernel with xxxx ROM", and another post where someone said "This ROM contains xxx kernel". What is the right one?
3. I saw three types of flashes around the forum: "ftf", "sin" and "img". What is the difference between them? Which ones are better (prefferable)?
4. All ROMs which I tried have same issue: Reboot while using ad-hoc wi-fi and activating lockscreen (trying wipes, formating, flash from stock). Can someone, who used stable version of "Cyanogen Mod 7.1.0 stable" confirm is this bug fixed here or not? WiFi is very important for me, especially ad-hoc. (I just want to wait some time 2~3 weeks to see if device working fine and no any defects occur, before I void my warranty by unlocking bootloader)
5. I saw a lot of reviews for different ROMs so I can't just choose one... Maybe someone will suggest me some stable ROM with 100% working wifi based on 2.2 (or 2.3)
Any comments/advices/explanations are greatly appreciated.
P.S. Sorry me for my bad english, I'm originally from Ukraine.
hello..
i'm newbie too in this forum,maybe you must search all answer of your qustion in general forum not in subforum here or try to go to cyanogen forum.
just sugestion,i sugest you to use froyobread rom or froyopro i (2.2.x both) if you want wifi work good in your device ( cause there any wifi bugs in other rom's,actually in 2.3.x rom).
The bootloader it can be locked again
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dotsen9 said:
The bootloader it can be locked again
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Yes, I know, but if subject will die during using custom ROM because of some factory defects (believe me, today quality of products is very low level, especially here, in Ukraine) can be situation when I will not be able to return to stock firmware. Anyway, thanks... and still waiting for some explanations.
zieaditya said:
hello..
i'm newbie too in this forum,maybe you must search all answer of your qustion in general forum not in subforum here or try to go to cyanogen forum.
just sugestion,i sugest you to use froyobread rom or froyopro i (2.2.x both) if you want wifi work good in your device ( cause there any wifi bugs in other rom's,actually in 2.3.x rom).
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Hmm, I have same issues with the wifi even on 2.2 froyo pro, floyo and others, so I thinking about custom kernels, just need to someone confirm what it will solve problem.
By the way, I got questions which I posted here during search forum, so there aren't answers which I need. I really need some technical details about that. Maybe I will be able to help developers with some improvements. Just need to know more about android (coz I have a lot of linux experience - building linux from scratch, optimization, developing, debugging, etc)
Thanks anyway for your attention.
P.S. Offtop... What do I need to do so moderators will permit me to post in <5 min? Coz now working a restrictions for newbies.
You need at least 10 posts here on forum...,;-)
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1. The bootloader is a special software, that is loaded by the firmware and loads the kernel itself.
This doesn´t only exists on Android, every OS has a bootloader.
2. The ROMs and the kernels are different to flash, the only ROm that "includes" a kernel is the official Android 2.1, which can be flashed with flashtool.
What flashtool is, and what you can do with it, can be read in the X8 FAQ-thread.
3. have a look at the FAQ-thread again....you will find something.
4. GingerDX should have working ad-hoc Wi-Fi, as this is also inportant for DX, especially on WEP.
CM 7.1.0 is still under development, as it´s based on the FXP ROM.
5.I´d suggest you GingerDX+LinuxDX, this combination is smooth like a baby´s ass and as fast as hell!
And everything is working!(Well, maybe there are some bugs, but I´m using this for a few months now and I didn´t found anything that does absolutely NOT work.
codfreak said:
1. The bootloader is a special software, that is loaded by the firmware and loads the kernel itself.
This doesn´t only exists on Android, every OS has a bootloader.
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I know what is bootloader. I asked is the bootloader in the current context something like software thing (GRUB, LILO, NTLDR, bootrecord if you want) OR it is something like hardware-specific BIOS alternative? This is the question.
codfreak said:
2. The ROMs and the kernels are different to flash, the only ROm that "includes" a kernel is the official Android 2.1, which can be flashed with flashtool.
What flashtool is, and what you can do with it, can be read in the X8 FAQ-thread.
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What is flashtool I know too. So all ROMs, excepting Stock does not include kernel. Clearly, thanks.
codfreak said:
4. GingerDX should have working ad-hoc Wi-Fi, as this is also inportant for DX, especially on WEP.
CM 7.1.0 is still under development, as it´s based on the FXP ROM.
5.I´d suggest you GingerDX+LinuxDX, this combination is smooth like a baby´s ass and as fast as hell!
And everything is working!(Well, maybe there are some bugs, but I´m using this for a few months now and I didn´t found anything that does absolutely NOT work.
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Will give it a try... Thanks!
You are a linux programmer?guys we might have a new developer in few months
Everything you need you can ask me via PM
Hi
I`m also have WiFi problems with Froyo Pro v1 and v1.1.
Froyobread 23b works fine.
Looking for a 2.2 rom still in developmen with a working WiFi!!!!
Hello.
The subject pretty much says all but I am going to repeat
How can I set SELinux-status to enforcing in a custom rom, let's say carbon or maclaw rom. all roms I came across so far do have SELinux disabled. Whereas CM is setting it to Enforcing. I'd like to know if this is possible in custom roms and obviously if so, how?
Cheers,
Thao
thomson.aa said:
Hello.
The subject pretty much says all but I am going to repeat
How can I set SELinux-status to enforcing in a custom rom, let's say carbon or maclaw rom. all roms I came across so far do have SELinux disabled. Whereas CM is setting it to Enforcing. I'd like to know if this is possible in custom roms and obviously if so, how?
Cheers,
Thao
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Try this app. Beware that I don't even know if it works, just make a quick search & found it. Just to prove that if you had used the "search button", you'll find it also Have fun & make Nbackup before playing with that kind of stuff.
mauam, thanks for the link.
I was able to root my XT1068. What should I do now to 'enjoy the benefits' of a rooted Android? Someone please guide me. I am an absolute beginner.
if you dont know why you're rooting, why you're rooting?
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if you dont know why you're rooting, why you're rooting?
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I know why I'm rooting. I know basic things about flashing ROMs and kernels. I flashed a CM13. I read that there is lot of other stuff that can be done, like increasing RAM and CPU and all that. But I couldn't find any specific guide anywhere. I don't want to mess up my phone, so asked. I tried to flash a (Halogen) kernel using some not-so-helpful guide and it had bugs. E.g. The WiFi wouldn't turn on. That's why it would be very helpful if someone told me properly what to do and how to.
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I know why I'm rooting. I know basic things about flashing ROMs and kernels. I flashed a CM13. I read that there is lot of other stuff that can be done, like increasing RAM and CPU and all that. But I couldn't find any specific guide anywhere. I don't want to mess up my phone, so asked. I tried to flash a (Halogen) kernel using some not-so-helpful guide and it had bugs. E.g. The WiFi wouldn't turn on. That's why it would be very helpful if someone told me properly what to do and how to.
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Technically you can't increase your RAM and CPU.
There are apps which say they do but I wouldn't do that if I were you.
Well if you fashed cm 13 then you know it's already rooted (in developer settings).
Flashing custom kernels is your choice.
Rooting is not that great, it does open up a whole new window of things but it comes at the cost of jeopardising the security of the system.
Do some research yourself, apps which you can use ,mods etc.
Everybody's uses are different so you won't get a proper answer but you will get tons of opinions.
And if you need help with anything then ask in the related thread and you will receive help.
I bought new Oneplus 3T , could you please explain little bit about the ROMs and all the root stuff.
I had Lg g5 and it seems to be very different.
Enjoy the beauty
The following are my recommendations:
Root - Magisk
Recovery - I prefer blu_spark's TWRP
ROM- If you absolutely must have Oreo, I think Validus 8.0 is the best atm. If you're fine with nougat for now (like me) then paranoid Android works well. Stock OOS is great too, if you want to keep it.
You should be able to figure out how to install the roms and root from the instructions given in the OP of each thread.
Also, I recommend installing the Google Camera app with the slow motion fix for better shots.
Links:
Magisk - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/themes/google-camera-t3681879
Slow motion mod for Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on.../magisk-hevc-60fps-slomo-gcam-op3t-5-t3666292 (also available in the Magisk repo)
Paranoid Android 7.3.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...noid-android-7-0-2-aospa-oneplus-3t-t3615015/
Validus 8.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/gr...oms-feature-development/rom-tesla-n-t3481561/
Handy thread listing all the current 8.0 roms - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/info-list-oreo-roms-kernels-available-3-t3688139/
Have fun with your new phone!
__Michael__ said:
I bought new Oneplus 3T , could you please explain little bit about the ROMs and all the root stuff.
I had Lg g5 and it seems to be very different.
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This questions is really too vague to give a proper response. You want us to explain what exactly about ROMs and "root stuff"? It doesn't indicate to us whether you have modified phones before (custom ROM, and/or root), or what your level of knowledge is. You also don't state exactly what your goal or desire is. Do you want to flash a custom ROM? Do you want to root? Do you want both?
We can start guessing, and providing random info and answers. But it's probably not the best way to go about things. A lot of the info is already posted if you read and search. Everything you want to know has been asked and answered before, probably dozens of time. XDA has always been a wealth of information, for those willing to take the time to look for it.
Every phone has it's own nuances regarding mods like custom ROMs and root. Even different phones from the same manufacturer. Good advice for anyone, is to take at least an hour or so (even if you are experienced with mods - more if you are not) doing some reading of the existing resources, guides, etc. before you try to do anything with the phone. This will give you the best info on the proper way to mod this particular phone, with the most up-to-date methods, etc. Then, if you have specific questions or concerns, come on here and ask. In fact, I always do that research before I even buy the phone. It's part of the fun of a new phone, in my opinion.
I don't personally know anything about the G5. But the 3T is fairly easy to unlock the bootloader (mandatory in order to flash custom recovery, which is needed to flash ROMs and/or root), flash TWRP, then flash custom ROMs and/or root. The following guide is a pretty decent one: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...wrp-root-nandroid-efs-backup-and-more.475142/
Just keep in mind that some of the info (like OOS version numbers, etc.) are not completely current. And you should typically use the latest versions TWRP and SuperSU/Magisk. But the general method in the guide is still relevant.
Whether you root by SuperSU or Magisk is a personal choice. Read up on the differences, and make your decision. SuperSU is what most folks already know. But Magisk has some really cool benefits and features over SuperSU. I've personally been preferring Magisk lately. But it's by no means the only choice, or best choice for everyone.
Also, highly recommend you know how to return to stock or recover, if anything goes wrong (good advice before trying to mod any Android device). One way is using a full update zip: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/rom-oxygenos-3-5-4-mm-ota-update-t3519074
And as typical, it's highly recommended to make a TWRP backup of your stock ROM, once TWRP is installed, and before you make any mods like custom ROM or root. Which will give you another way to revert to the stock ROM, if you ever have the need.
It's obvious that the OP never dealt in the past with Root etc.
So, the first thing I would advise is start with a good understanding of what Rooting is offering in general, which has nothing to do specifically with 3T.
All devices can be rooted, so the real question is if the OP didn't care to have it in the past, what changed now?
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted
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It's obvious that the OP never dealt in the past with Root etc.
So, the first thing I would advise is start with a good understanding of what Rooting is offering in general, which has nothing to do specifically with 3T.
All devices can be rooted, so the real question is if the OP didn't care to have it in the past, what changed now?
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted
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Of course i did root in the past , but my last phone (Lg g5) wasn't rootable , there is some version with no option to open there bootloader , so i wanted to know if maybe i can have the same problem here.
Thank you all for the help , only one more question , i read about many GPS and camera problems , i didnt noticed any of them yet
__Michael__ said:
Of course i did root in the past , but my last phone (Lg g5) wasn't rootable , there is some version with no option to open there bootloader , so i wanted to know if maybe i can have the same problem here.
Thank you all for the help , only one more question , i read about many GPS and camera problems , i didnt noticed any of them yet
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Well, Root doesn't affect GPS or Camera and in any case, these kind of issues shouldn't affect the majority of users.
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted
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Of course i did root in the past
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As I've already touched upon, your original post makes it impossible to tell your level of experience, either way. When asking such questions, it's best to be specific, give details (what you're looking to do, what your experience is, etc.)
__Michael__ said:
only one more question , i read about many GPS and camera problems , i didnt noticed any of them yet
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GPS problem seems mostly on OOS 4.1.7 and 4.5.0 (4.5.1 also, it seems). And not for everyone. At some locations, the AGPS data is outdated, and leading to long waits for the GPS to achieve a lock. So depending on your location, or if your OOS version is not updated, you might not see an issue. Consider yourself lucky, and don't go looking for a problem, if it doesn't exist!
Not sure of the specific camera problem you are referring to. Some folks have complained about blurry photos in low light, with moving subjects. If that is what you are talking about, again if you don't have an issue, don't worry about it. It's not really a "bug" in my opinion. It's in line with the performance of other smartphones. Just not as good at focus (again, specifically in low light with moving subjects) as some other phones, particularly the expensive flagships like Galaxy S8 or iPhone. But you can't expect the 3T to meet all the same technical capabilities of phones that cost about double! Also, the focus in these conditions seems a bit better on the more recent OOS updates. So again, depending on what version you are on, as well as the conditions you are taking photos, and what your expectations are; the camera may not be an issue.
JarJarWinks said:
The following are my recommendations:
Root - Magisk
Recovery - I prefer blu_spark's TWRP
ROM- If you absolutely must have Oreo, I think Validus 8.0 is the best atm. If you're fine with nougat for now (like me) then paranoid Android works well. Stock OOS is great too, if you want to keep it.
You should be able to figure out how to install the roms and root from the instructions given in the OP of each thread.
Also, I recommend installing the Google Camera app with the slow motion fix for better shots.
Links:
Magisk - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/themes/google-camera-t3681879
Slow motion mod for Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on.../magisk-hevc-60fps-slomo-gcam-op3t-5-t3666292 (also available in the Magisk repo)
Paranoid Android 7.3.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...noid-android-7-0-2-aospa-oneplus-3t-t3615015/
Validus 8.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/gr...oms-feature-development/rom-tesla-n-t3481561/
Handy thread listing all the current 8.0 roms - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/info-list-oreo-roms-kernels-available-3-t3688139/
Have fun with your new phone!
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I agree, but with one exception. I'm using rrZenity, and i find it extremely stable on my 3t. Even more so than the official. And possibly even more so than the beautiful Sultanized rr's latest build by DroidFreak32. Plus it comes with fully functional gcam(even slowmo with all settings working perfect), adaway, wakeblock, etc. And I'm using the franco los kernel, but the built-in kernel is really good too. I'm honestly waiting for a stable RR Oreo, or oos, but thks works superbly for now. And a stable Magisk for Oreo. With Resurrection Remix, i just feel like the phone is all mine, really mine, to customize and use however I want. Just my opinion
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Know what TWRP is, a good understanding of how to use it, and what a Nandroid is. I'm no pro, but I hardbricked my phone, as a noob, and it'll scare the sht out of you. There are two brick lifesavers that you must have a pc or laptop to use, and I can provide you links via request.
Now I can flash away with no worries. Not because of the unbrick tools, but twrp will save your a*s over and over again IF you know how to use it.
And donate donate donate. Developers work hard to enable us to have fun and "play" with our phones. And they spend a lot of time doing it. When you download, flash, love a rom or kernel, mod you find...donate. This enables these developers to continue work and make improvements. I find it all fascinating and fun. And xda is probably my new best friend. Ask questions when necessary, but before you do READ READ READ
Sorry @JarJarWinks, this post was not aimed at you. Just wanted to use your quote hoping the kid who op'd it would find it useful.
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I agree, but with one exception. I'm using rrZenity, and i find it extremely stable on my 3t. Even more so than the official. And possibly even more so than the beautiful Sultanized rr's latest build by DroidFreak32. Plus it comes with fully functional gcam(even slowmo with all settings working perfect), adaway, wakeblock, etc. And I'm using the franco los kernel, but the built-in kernel is really good too. I'm honestly waiting for a stable RR Oreo, or oos, but thks works superbly for now. And a stable Magisk for Oreo. With Resurrection Remix, i just feel like the phone is all mine, really mine, to customize and use however I want. Just my opinion
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If you're saying that rrZenity is better than the sultanized one, then I'll definitely have to try it and of course, franco kernel does give great battery life.
Downloading now! :good:
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If you're saying that rrZenity is better than the sultanized one, then I'll definitely have to try it and of course, franco kernel does give great battery life.
Downloading now! :good:
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I used zenity. Then droidfreak32 put out build that was better, smoother, less issues. Latest builds, I found right the opposite. Zenity 10-01 running so smoothly, Sultanized had a couple of issues for me even though it's newer. Like I said, either one of those guys put out an oreo build I'm on it, cuz I trust both their builds. Hope you enjoy!
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Stock OOS, Magisk, Xposed, GravityBox.
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Stock OOS, Magisk, Xposed, GravityBox.
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If i install that magisk like mentioned there (https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445) , will i get root?
sorry for the question , but i didn't hard about the magisk root before the one plus one .
__Michael__ said:
If i install that magisk like mentioned there (https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445) , will i get root?
sorry for the question , but i didn't hard about the magisk root before the one plus one .
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Magisk has a built-in SU binary, so yes.
congratulations, chief, on the new toy!
Hello there,
I am using a google nexus 6. I am on nougat 7.1.1. But from the October security patch my phone is too slow. And now i got an idea to change to custom rom. I want to know which is best.. Stock Rom or Custom Rom? If Custom Rom which one you prefer? Please help me to find a good one.
Thanks!
can you read ?
this is Nexus 6 Android Development thread not Q&A ! go to Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting thread and ask anything you like !
and please read this :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/thread-t3603186
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
achchu93 said:
I am using a google nexus 6. I am on nougat 7.1.1. But from the October security patch my phone is too slow. And now i got an idea to change to custom rom. I want to know which is best.. Stock Rom or Custom Rom? If Custom Rom which one you prefer? Please help me to find a good one.
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There are no more official updates to the Nexus 6, so if you wish to upgrade the device further you will have little choice but to use a custom ROM. As for what ROM is best for you, that's a question we can't answer. The only thing we can tell you is to try them out to see which one is best for you. Now, as to what custom ROMs we prefer, let's rephrase your question so it reads, "If Custom Rom which one do you use?" as that is what you are actually asking. The responses you get will inevitably fall along the lines of "I use ROM X" anyway.
For example, I use Pure Nexus. It's not Android 8 although the developer has been working on an Android 8 version. However it has the right balance of features for me; it's not stuffed to the gills with features but isn't stock either. Naturally there are Android 8 ROMs out there, and right now the closest to Pure Nexus in having that balance of features is Validus. Even though Validus is officially still in beta it was a very stable ROM when I tried it out. So take a look at the ROMs available, try them out, and choose the one that fits best to you.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
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ok i apologize from both of you
@achchu93
In my opinion :
7.1.2 : PN (Pure Nexus)
8: currently sixrom v2.1 good for me !
sourcebuilt oreo rom : more stable
GZR Validus : not use it now if your phone is encryption ! you lose all you data
this is my opinion It may not be right
sorry for my bad english
@pinkfloyd3 : I am really sorry. I am not well experienced in this thread stuffs. I was in a curious to upgrade my phone. Thats why i posted here. Sorry if it bothers you.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
There are no more official updates to the Nexus 6, so if you wish to upgrade the device further you will have little choice but to use a custom ROM. As for what ROM is best for you, that's a question we can't answer. The only thing we can tell you is to try them out to see which one is best for you. Now, as to what custom ROMs we prefer, let's rephrase your question so it reads, "If Custom Rom which one do you use?" as that is what you are actually asking. The responses you get will inevitably fall along the lines of "I use ROM X" anyway.
For example, I use Pure Nexus. It's not Android 8 although the developer has been working on an Android 8 version. However it has the right balance of features for me; it's not stuffed to the gills with features but isn't stock either. Naturally there are Android 8 ROMs out there, and right now the closest to Pure Nexus in having that balance of features is Validus. Even though Validus is officially still in beta it was a very stable ROM when I tried it out. So take a look at the ROMs available, try them out, and choose the one that fits best to you.
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Thanks alot for your reply. I tried Pure Nexus with Franco kernel. You know both of them impressed me in a great way. after flashing franco kernal my phone is working like a jet. Really happy with this custom rom and kernal.
But still i see lot of people supporting dark rom. It is customized version of Lineage OS right? What do you think about that?
LineageOS is "lipstick on a pig" (look it up). They used Cyanogenmod as a base instead of starting over, meaning they used a base full of untested code. Because of that, it doesn't touch my devices.
The LineageOS devs should have started from scratch. It would have taken longer to get up and running, but the code would be clean and tested.
Well, if you want to keep yourself updated with the latest security patches (and probably features as well) then for this ageing phone, a custom ROM is better than stock all day long.
I'm using Dirty Unicorns 11.7.2, since is most up to date and very stable. PN is a good choice as well.