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When will we get Android 7.0 Nougat?

So Nougat is released. My guess is it'll take more than 1 YEAR for us to taste Nougat on Note 5. The only reason Sammy sucks.
And cuz we have Exynos no third-party ROMs too:/

I don't know where are you from but on earth Samsung delivered MM to note 5 in 5 months after release date.
I am hoping they will take around 6 months this time as this is no more the latest device.

mohitgalaxy3 said:
I don't know where are you from but on earth Samsung delivered MM to note 5 in 5 months after release date.
I am hoping they will take around 6 months this time as this is no more the latest device.
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I'm talking about the International version of the Note 5 and yes it took almost 7,8 months.
Trust me. It'll take some time :/

decades

It took more than 8 months for us on sprint 5 month i wish
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maybe on December if Samsung wants to
I think they will try to keep customers satisfied so they will deliver als because there is almost no developement needed for port note 7,5 s7 share same specs
or they will deliver very lately to compensate for the money they lost x)

AlMaghraby said:
maybe on December if Samsung wants to
I think they will try to keep customers satisfied so they will deliver als because there is almost no developement needed for port note 7,5 s7 share same specs
or they will deliver very lately to compensate for the money they lost x)
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That's a longshot. Early next year prolly..

What device did you upgrade to after your Nexus 6?

What device did you upgrade to?
Any suggestions for devices that are affordable upgrades to the Nexus 6?
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I'm looking for a new phone and I need some suggestions.
Looking for a smaller screen with a Snapdragon 820, 821, 835 CPU and an amazing camera. Front facing stereo speakers would be nice to have but they seem uncommon. Must have MicroSD card slot.
Needs to also have a rooting method and a slightly active xda presence.
Since the Nexus 6 was released in 2014, I'm looking at phones from 2016 and early 2017 for an affordable upgrade. Phones like Galaxy S7 Active, Galaxy S8, HTC 10, etc.
I want a 64bit cpu without losing too much that the Nexus 6 has done right.

xNotta said:
What device did you upgrade to? Any suggestions for devices?
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I'm looking for a new phone that is smaller than my Nexus 6.......
If you have some reasons to avoid any of the above devices, please share so I don't make that mistake.
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A phone with a flat back that doesn't turn when used on a desk.
No Samsung or HTC because of the custom shell or bloatware and not easy to root. And price rather high.
OnePlus phones are most close to stock Android. Let's see if the new OnePlus will be a candidate....

There's a deal where you can get a S8 for $200 on the Samsung app via trade in. Or $290 for S8+ or $400 for a Note 4. Ends tomorrow.

Gysper said:
There's a deal where you can get a S8 for $200 on the Samsung app via trade in. Or $290 for S8+ or $400 for a Note 4. Ends tomorrow.
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Where can I get the Samsung app and more information on this deal?
Using the Samsung Shop app from the play store I could only find an S8 for $724.99 after $1999.99 in "savings".
I think I'm using the wrong app.
Back on topic: Which phone did you upgrade to when you left your Nexus 6?

xNotta said:
Where can I get the Samsung app and more information on this deal?
Using the Samsung Shop app from the play store I could only find an S8 for $724.99 after $1999.99 in "savings".
I think I'm using the wrong app.
Back on topic: Which phone did you upgrade to when you left your Nexus 6?
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https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/11256803
Edit: this as well https://slickdeals.net/f/11279363-1...s-expires-february-23rd?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1

Gysper said:
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/11256803
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Cool, a fellow SDer! Thank you.

xNotta said:
Cool, a fellow SDer! Thank you.
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Yep. Updated with one more link.
I have not upgraded my N6 but had plenty of opportunities. The reason is because I haven't found a worthy replacement that justifies my needs. I was going to get the Note 8 but I feel like getting another phone that's bigger would've been a disappointment. Unless camera quality is in your needs, the P2 set the bar high but I would want that camera in a phone that has a headphone jack and big battery. The S9 might be it but Ima wait until June/July for either the S9 or OnePlus 6.

Gysper said:
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/11256803
Edit: this as well https://slickdeals.net/f/11279363-1...s-expires-february-23rd?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1
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I placed my order and bought the V20 off ebay.
The Galaxy S8 won't be in stock until the beginning of April and will ship out within 3 weeks after that. They charge you as soon as you order but you don't get your phone for nearly 3 months.
My totals were $130 for the V20 trade-in + $220 for the Galaxy S8. Totaling $360 and a 3 month wait.
I chatted and proposed solutions like waiting to charge when it ships and proposed they switch the Verizon model with the Unlocked model. All the Rep could do was apologize and say there is no way they can do anything to correct the unacceptable backorder time or switch models. They also asked that I do not judge Samsung by this experience.
I canceled that order, would rather have a OnePlus 3t or a much cheaper device now over that Samsung mess.

xNotta said:
I placed my order and bought the V20 off ebay.
The Galaxy S8 won't be in stock until the beginning of April and will ship out within 3 weeks after that. They charge you as soon as you order but you don't get your phone for nearly 3 months.
My totals were $130 for the V20 trade-in + $220 for the Galaxy S8. Totaling $360 and a 3 month wait.
I chatted and proposed solutions like waiting to charge when it ships and proposed they switch the Verizon model with the Unlocked model. All the Rep could do was apologize and say there is no way they can do anything to correct the unacceptable backorder time or switch models. They also asked that I do not judge Samsung by this experience.
I canceled that order, would rather have a OnePlus 3t or a much cheaper device now over that Samsung mess.
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I just ordered the OP5T. I was contemplating between the 5T and the 5. The OP5 kept depreciating faster than the OP5T as the months went on. I chose the 5T because it was still reasonably priced (on Swappa) and I felt it offered a better value to me. Depending on how much you can spend to upgrade, the 3T or OP5 (128GB models) would be good options.
I was also looking at Razer Smartphones. The price never came down low enough for me to buy it.
I'm not a fan of Samsung.
I would have considered the HTC 10/U Ultra/U11. I think the lack of development swayed me away from these. I still have my VZN M7 running Santod's G+ Play edition as a media device and daily backup.
I was heavily considering a Moto Droid Force or Droid Play. Price was an issue here.
The LG G6 or V30 would have been considered. LG doesn't have a great track record (to me).
The Asus Zenfone 4 Pro would've been one of my choices. But, price was an issue here too.
I cannot think of any other brands/devices I would've considered as an appropriate upgrade to the great Shamu.

I actually downgraded from the N6P to the N6. IMHO, it's a much better, although bigger, phone. Easier to root, and work with.

grunt0300 said:
I actually downgraded from the N6P to the N6. IMHO, it's a much better, although bigger, phone. Easier to root, and work with.
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Thread Jack....
I feel as if the N6 is just as legendary as the HTC One M7. Long Live Legendary Devices!
Back to your regular scheduled programming.
Just got the OP5T in. I'm in awe of how aesthetically pleasing the OP5T is. I did a few tests and this thing is super snappy. It's similar to when I went from the M7 to the N6. I plan on rooting and installing a custom ROM with EX Kernel to better fulfill my wants of this device. Stock ROM is stupidly pleasing.

I am still trying to find an upgrade phone that has root and a recovery, which most don't even have active development.
Here's a list of devices that pretty much sum up what seems to be the market right now.
XDA's most active device forums: (https://forum.xda-developers.com/top)
1. Samsung Galaxy S9
2. OnePlus 5T
3. Huawei Mate 10
4. Google Pixel 2
5. OnePlus 5
6. Samsung Galaxy S8+
7. LG G6
8. Samsung Galaxy S8
9. OnePlus 3T
10. Google Pixel
11. OnePlus 3
12. ZTE Axon
13. HTC 10
14. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
15. LG G5
16. Samsung Galaxy S7
17. Nexus 6P
18. Moto G (2015)
19. Moto X Style (pure)
20. LG G4 (AT&T)
Top 20 AnTuTu Ranking: (http://www.antutu.com/en/ranking/rank1.htm, Benchmark v6, not updated for v7 yet)
1. iPhone 8 Plus
2. iPhone 8
3. OnePlus 5
4. Samsung Note 8（N950F）
5. HTC U11
6. nubia Z17
7. Nokia 8
8. Mi MIX 2
9. Samsung Note 8（N950U）
10. Mi 6
11. Samsung S8（G950F）
12. Samsung S8+(G955F)
13. Samsung S8+(G9550)
14. Sony Xperia XZ Premium
15. iPhone 7 Plus
16. Samsung S8（G950U）
17. iPhone 7
18. OnePlus 3T
19. OnePlus 3
20. Lenovo ZUK Edge

Should I get the Note 8?

I am thinking about buying it but I am not sure yet since I read that it's harder to develop roms for this device and I don't want to be stuck on android pie when the next android version comes out because of that. What I want to know is if it would be a good idea to buy it if I want to keep it for a few years (3-4) or should I buy another phone?

I can tell you this:
The note 8 is an excellent device, I think pie will be the last major firmware update for it from samsung , I skipped the note 9, as I think a two year cycle is adequate, in your case, it is ultimately about how much money you are willing to spend, you can get a new note 8 very cheap, but if android Q and the next one is of so much importance to you, then get a note 9 or wait for the note 10 that I expect to be formidable

If getting note 8 and want root and custom roms then go for SM-N950F / F/DS / N (exynos soc versions).
Stay away from the USA/Canadian versions SM-N950U/U1/W they have locked bootloader.

BluePhnx said:
If getting note 8 and want root and custom roms then go for SM-N950F / F/DS / N (exynos soc versions).
Stay away from the USA/Canadian versions SM-N950U/U1/W they have locked bootloader.
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Thanks for the info. I am also considering to buy one since it's a well built phone and is cheap now. I don't really care about the android but Samsung gave pip on nougat so I guess I won't miss out any new features and I will have a secondary mi a1 which has been through rigorous flashing of roms:silly:

winol said:
I can tell you this:
The note 8 is an excellent device, I think pie will be the last major firmware update for it from samsung , I skipped the note 9, as I think a two year cycle is adequate, in your case, it is ultimately about how much money you are willing to spend, you can get a new note 8 very cheap, but if android Q and the next one is of so much importance to you, then get a note 9 or wait for the note 10 that I expect to be formidable
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i'm in the Same case. I've Skipped the note 9 and waiting for the 10. And as you said, the note 8 is excellent "and can still run for a long time for all the peoples who don't care about the newest tech and the lastest useless features. I mean, why 3 or 5 rear Cameras when the note8 shots very well with its actual config. it's just an example

Is the battery still good guys?
Samsung said it will still hold 95 percent charge after 2 years is that true?
Is the fingerprint sensor really as bad as they say?

My note 8 is 16 months old, and the battery is as good as day one, accubattery reports that it charges up to 3325 mAh, and the fingerprint sensor is always accurate, it reads in less than a second, but this is MY experience

KukkiGolo said:
I am thinking about buying it but I am not sure yet since I read that it's harder to develop roms for this device and I don't want to be stuck on android pie when the next android version comes out because of that. What I want to know is if it would be a good idea to buy it if I want to keep it for a few years (3-4) or should I buy another phone?
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Android Pie will be the last major update for the Note 8, but it should keep getting security updates for another year or so. If Samsung doesn't release Android 10 firmware, then it can't be ported to the Note 8. There's no AOSP projects for the Note 8, so that won't be ported, either.
If you want to get a device that will keep getting new Android version updates, rather get a Pixel device. If you get the Note 8, you get it for the added features Samsung provides, and not because of their update schedule.
I guess, ultimately, it's down to whether you always want the newest version, or whether you want certain added features. Myself, I prefer the features the Note 8 provides. I'm happy staying on Android Pie for the next year or two until I decide to upgrade my device again to the then latest Note device.

If you shop around you could probably get a Note 9 for a excellent price. However if you are strapped for cash, then the Note 8 is an excellent device. I purchased the Note 8 shortly after the SGS9 series release and I am perfectly happy with my decision and will probably be using it until the battery starts to degrade.

S8 to get Android 10 update after all? and note 8?

We know that the hardware is identical but will it serve for our note 8?
Maybe in a custom rom version is it safe but officially?
what do you think?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s8-to-get-android-10-update-after-all/
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63or63 said:
We know that the hardware is identical but will it serve for our note 8?
Maybe in a custom rom version is it safe but officially?
what do you think?
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IF the S8 does get Android 10, I am quite sure it would come to the N8 too.
I think we deserve it after putting trust back in the note series after dodgy batteries.

That is just a unconfirmed rumor. However if it does prove to be true then the Note 8 should also get Android 10 as well.

Hope N8 dont go Andoird 10, i think actualy N8 its very stable like it is! Hope it last more 3 years like this

burnin said:
Hope N8 dont go Andoird 10, i think actualy N8 its very stable like it is! Hope it last more 3 years like this
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Samsung will probably continue to provide security patches for the Note 8 running on Pie anyway in the future. So it should be fine.

iceepyon said:
Samsung will probably continue to provide security patches for the Note 8 running on Pie anyway in the future. So it should be fine.
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just getting an update today ---> N950FXXS8DSK1

MystaMagoo said:
just getting an update today ---> N950FXXS8DSK1
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That's just the monthly patch. I don't anticipate an Android 10 update for even the S8, as Samsung is in the business of selling new phones.

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That's just the monthly patch. I don't anticipate an Android 10 update for even the S8, as Samsung is in the business of selling new phones.
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Yep
Was just elaborating on the security patch release.
I doubt we will get A10 for our N8.

The Open Handset Alliance stipulates that manufacturers should support firmware updates for (Android) devices for the first 18 months. The Note 8 is older than that. Since our (international) Note 8's get the security updates directly from Samsung, we can continue to expect only the monthly security patches. Carrier-branded Note 8's are at the mercy of the respective carriers for the security updates.
Personally, I don't see a benefit to switch to a Note 9 to get this update (from a hardware perspective).
I'd probably do a Note 10 in 2020 because I feel my Note 8's internal battery will stop holding charge then, and screen-burn in may be an issue at that point. My Note 8 is still in mint condition, so I'm trying to find a fault with it .
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Samsung can always argue that they migrated us from 7.1.1 to Pie (and are still giving us security patches).

Very Cool! I read up a bit. Who knows if it is true or not. IF so I might just keep my trusty old s8+ which rocks btw instead of getting a note 10+ or a s20 just yet.

noidodroid said:
Who knows if it is true or not.
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Samsung does. Omitting the Note 10 from all published list of devices for an Android 10 release would be a good indication.
Right now, I'd jump ship and get the Note equivalent of the S20 Ultra, only for the 100x camera, but the screen is too big to fit my average pocket, and the price is currently out of my reach.

Note 8 and UI 2.0 software 10.0

Does anyone know if the Note 8 is getting any more major updates and if not is there any mods to get the latest software for the note 8?
Thanks

Rayg1022 said:
Does anyone know if the Note 8 is getting any more major updates and if not is there any mods to get the latest software for the note 8?
Thanks
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It wont receive android 10 or ui 2.0. Dunno about any ports for it from other devices

So I'm stuck with what's on here now. I just cant see spending another $1000.00 for a new phone. Its getting ridiculous with all these new devices coming out.

I think that S8 doesn't deserve Android Q because it has like 3 years old but Note 8 just had 1 year and 11 months when android 10 final was released.

SamN8 said:
I think that S8 doesn't deserve Android Q because it has like 3 years old but Note 8 just had 1 year and 11 months when android 10 final was released.
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Both the SGS8 series and the Note 8 were both released in the same year. The old differences is that the SGS8 was released earlier than the Note 8. That said they both run on the same hardware with the exception that the Note 8 has the S-Pen.

Rayg1022 said:
So I'm stuck with what's on here now. I just cant see spending another $1000.00 for a new phone. Its getting ridiculous with all these new devices coming out.
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You know the Note 8 in Europe sells for about 329€ (VAT included) now right!? Buy a Note 9 (for 400 and something) and you'll get Android Q

joluke said:
Buy a Note 9 (for 400 and something) and you'll get Android Q
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This sounds good on paper, but it is still an "old" device (in 2020) that will soon suffer a similar (unsupported) fate to the Note 8 in a few more months.
I believe Samsung is in the business of primarily selling only new phones, so I suspect the Note8's performance may become throttled like an old iPhone in the monthly security updates.
I can't consider selling my Note8 to buy a Note9 for a few dollars more when they are basically the same thing just to get Q. I'm not yet seeing a feature in the Note10 to make me part with my money other than the eye-candy interface.

Q is not worth spending extra cash for. Have tried it on my N9 and N10 and went back to Pie on both. Just my opinion others love it. I still use my N8 and it is still one of the best devices out there in 2020, but let's face it Samsung only gives 2 major updates to a device so S8 Note 8 will not be getting it. Can it support it??? I'm sure it can but Samsung wants to make money by getting boneheads like me to purchase a new device.
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Little chance. Remember that, Note 4 Operating system
Original: Android 4.4.4 "KitKat"
First major update: Android 5.0.1 "Lollipop"
Second major update: Android 5.1.1 "Lollipop"
Third major update: Android 6.0.1 "Marshmallow"
Note 8 Operating system
Original: Android 7.1.1
First major update: Android 8.0
Second major update: Android 9
Third major update: why not?

GokberkTunc said:
Little chance. Remember that
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I did. I was of that same view months ago. However, since so much time has passed, I've concluded that chapter is now closed.

lineage 17.1
Rayg1022 said:
Does anyone know if the Note 8 is getting any more major updates and if not is there any mods to get the latest software for the note 8?
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im using lineage 17.1 rom which is based on android 10

iceepyon said:
Both the SGS8 series and the Note 8 were both released in the same year. The old differences is that the SGS8 was released earlier than the Note 8. That said they both run on the same hardware with the exception that the Note 8 has the S-Pen.
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Yes both have same hardware but Note 8 has 6GB RAM and Dual camera and the S8 4GB with a Single camera. I think that a mobile that was release near 2018 by 1000$ deserved Android Q. Samsung policies must change in the flagship.

What's even worse is I'm running a Touchwiz Android 9 rom with Android 10 apps on my 6 edge plus. International device used here in United states with wifi calling..video calls..advanced messaging and volte. My point is if the old 6edge plus can handle this there is no reason the S8 or N8 cant. But I just dont see it happening. Many will read this thread and ask what's the point. But I like to see things like this talked about even if it doesn't go anywhere.
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there is no reason the S8 or N8 cant.
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It's not financially viable to support an old device for another year... It might make people NOT shell out $1000+ for a new device if the operating system is the same & officially supported....
It takes a special breed to root, flash and enjoy the fruits of our labour that most people WON'T do with a device that cost a large chunk of cash. Hell, most people don't even know what Android 10 is.
The average consumer has no idea how, or why it's a good thing to use the latest operating system...

Yes this was the point I made before. It's all about $$$$[emoji16]. And you are exactly right, we are a rare breed on xda. Most people get a device because it looks good. Not because of battery..display..themes..roms...root..disable this keep that...camera...lol its shiny so I'm buying it.
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Heck I'm still hanging on with a rooted Note 8 on 7.1 I just can't update it.lol
My SM-N950U Still Rooted Note 8

There's an article on tomsuigde and phonearena indicating that Samsung customer care confirmed note 8 will get android 10
This was from a month ago - any ideas on whether this is accurate?

joluke said:
It wont receive android 10 or ui 2.0. Dunno about any ports for it from other devices
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reservation31 said:
im using lineage 17.1 rom which is based on android 10
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Where and how do I get that?

Rayg1022 said:
Where and how do I get that?
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Only for Exynos SM-N950F
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/development/rom-lineageos-17-1-t4041979

taoveganexus said:
There's an article on tomsuigde and phonearena indicating that Samsung customer care confirmed note 8 will get android 10
This was from a month ago - any ideas on whether this is accurate?
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I don't think those articles about the Note 8 getting Android 10 is incorrect. As the Note 8 has already received 2 major android OS updates. However we should still receive security patches for android Pie.