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Note 4 Nougat Petition

Hello Note 4 users and lovers.
I've created a petition for official note 4 Nougat update.
Please sign and share if you can.
Thanks
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-sa...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

Petition only applies to users of F version. Why does not include C version users?
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Dude, we're still getting monthly security updates and we should be thankful for that. If you want the latest and greatest Android version, upgrade your phone. Note 4 is old, it's acceptable if it doesn't received Nougat.

NeoFox69 said:
Hello Note 4 users and lovers.
I've created a petition for official note 4 Nougat update.
Please sign and share if you can.
Thanks
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-sa...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
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Your petition is biased.
Why not SM-N910 to make it general?
Anyway I'm of the opinion that since the phone was released in October 2014, it should be updated to Nougat because its two-year OS eligibility falls within the time Nougat was officially released by Google.

Not to mention we would have a Note7 by now if Samsung hadn't messed it up. But I agree, the petition is not inclusive for all models .

I only said that I have the F version. I didn't said that only that version deserved the update.

natibongo said:
Your petition is biased.
Why not SM-N910 to make it general?
Anyway I'm of the opinion that since the phone was released in October 2014, it should be updated to Nougat because its two-year OS eligibility falls within the time Nougat was officially released by Google.
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I agree completely, it should be N910 in general but I saw the OP reply below and he is correct that the petition he wrote it just stating his model and not to get nougat only for the F model. I also agree with the second point and have been sort of annoyed with Samsung for this, it's supposed to be 2 year OS update so as mentioned, Oct. 2014 for Note 4 launch and since Nougat came out in August 2016 we should have it. Add to that, a lot of us Note 4 owners bought, and ultimately lost, the Note 7's thanks to Samsung and as a gesture to sort of make up for that they should have added the Note 4 to the Nougat release.
Anyway going slightly off topic;
I love my Note 4 but am ready for a new device. Personally, I love the s-pen and hate to give it up but if the pricing rumors hold true and the conversion to Canadian is somewhat accurate it would be in the $1300 range (give or take) for the S8 so Note 8 would likely be in the same price range. No way will I accept those prices but I will wait and see with the S8 info that comes later today and decide from there. The Note 7 was $1050 CDN, I won't support Samsung if the Note 8 is anything above MAX $1100 CDN and less than 64GB storage (and better have expandable) as that is expensive enough as it is and pushing it IMO.
I'm waiting to see the OnePlus 5 later this year and will likely buy that if Samsung starts going to ridiculous Apple prices. Google also lost me after the Pixel phones being ridiculously overpriced as well. I mean, they want more for the Pixel XL than Samsung wanted for the Note 7... WTF Google?!? That's like LG and HTC thinking they can price at the same range as Samsung as well when they have so little to offer or reason to buy over Samsung and especially over some of these new phones from OnePlus, Huawei, etc... but $1180 for 128GB Pixel XL/$1050 for 32GB Pixel XL compared to $1050 for 64GB Note 7 and well the Note 7 was the far better deal, and phone.
Anyway, that's my rant/2 cents lol.

As long as you are all in signing mode, here is a petition where you can state all you want in the Note8
https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/note8-phablet-as-soon-as-possible

uchihakurtz said:
Dude, we're still getting monthly security updates and we should be thankful for that. If you want the latest and greatest Android version, upgrade your phone. Note 4 is old, it's acceptable if it doesn't received Nougat.
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The 2012's iphone 5 still getting ios updates #respect to apple

The pie on the note

Would the pie be coming to the Note8 anytime soon?
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bshawnwadialo said:
Would the pie be coming to the Note8 anytime soon?
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Looking at what has been written in various reports, the Note 8 should get it in January 2019!
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robmeik said:
Looking at what has been written in various reports, the Note 8 should get it in January 2019!
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Thank you
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robmeik said:
Looking at what has been written in various reports, the Note 8 should get it in January 2019!
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You are reading about the S9 for ~January.
After that, there is the Note 9 (in the second wave of releases), then the Note 8 in the third wave of releases).
January....for Note 8, will not be happening. You are better off with April 1, 2019 as an April fool's joke.
Until then, you can still expect to get the monthly security patches.

The Note 8 will not get Pie until right before the Note 10 is about to come out. Just like when we got Oreo right before the Note 9 came out. Samsung is the worst on Android updates they are so far behind. The Note 9 launched with Oreo phones that came out a month after have Pie.

I dont understand why all the trouble about firmware updates, security patches I agree, but I get a device because I really like it as it is from the start, moreover, it is designed based on a certain android version, that is why sometimes the major updates create some sorts of problems, I really prefer the truly stable firmware the phone came with, but that is MY opinion

jason504 said:
Samsung is the worst on Android updates they are so far behind.
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No. It is called "business". Samsung is in bed with your carrier to ensure you update the latest handset (so they both win).
winol said:
I get a device because I really like it as it is from the start, moreover, it is designed based on a certain android version
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I only buy flagship devices just to get the latest firmware updates (security patches and bragging rights). I just don't want a Vanilla Google device like the Pixel as I think it is incomplete. Google is "fixing" the fragmentation problem, so there should be no more "unstable firmware updates" as you are alluding to. If you were fair, you would admit that THOSE problems are caused by users who flash / update their devices, and don't perform a factory wipe, with a clean setup.

jason504 said:
The Note 8 will not get Pie until right before the Note 10 is about to come out. Just like when we got Oreo right before the Note 9 came out. Samsung is the worst on Android updates they are so far behind. The Note 9 launched with Oreo phones that came out a month after have Pie.
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We got Oreo in March, and N9 released in August.

Note 8 SM-N9500 Dual SIM 256Gb pie update came yesterday! All OK, One UI is a vast improvement! The only thing I miss is the SMS widget!
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Should I get the Note 8?

I am thinking about buying it but I am not sure yet since I read that it's harder to develop roms for this device and I don't want to be stuck on android pie when the next android version comes out because of that. What I want to know is if it would be a good idea to buy it if I want to keep it for a few years (3-4) or should I buy another phone?

I can tell you this:
The note 8 is an excellent device, I think pie will be the last major firmware update for it from samsung , I skipped the note 9, as I think a two year cycle is adequate, in your case, it is ultimately about how much money you are willing to spend, you can get a new note 8 very cheap, but if android Q and the next one is of so much importance to you, then get a note 9 or wait for the note 10 that I expect to be formidable

If getting note 8 and want root and custom roms then go for SM-N950F / F/DS / N (exynos soc versions).
Stay away from the USA/Canadian versions SM-N950U/U1/W they have locked bootloader.

BluePhnx said:
If getting note 8 and want root and custom roms then go for SM-N950F / F/DS / N (exynos soc versions).
Stay away from the USA/Canadian versions SM-N950U/U1/W they have locked bootloader.
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Thanks for the info. I am also considering to buy one since it's a well built phone and is cheap now. I don't really care about the android but Samsung gave pip on nougat so I guess I won't miss out any new features and I will have a secondary mi a1 which has been through rigorous flashing of roms:silly:

winol said:
I can tell you this:
The note 8 is an excellent device, I think pie will be the last major firmware update for it from samsung , I skipped the note 9, as I think a two year cycle is adequate, in your case, it is ultimately about how much money you are willing to spend, you can get a new note 8 very cheap, but if android Q and the next one is of so much importance to you, then get a note 9 or wait for the note 10 that I expect to be formidable
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i'm in the Same case. I've Skipped the note 9 and waiting for the 10. And as you said, the note 8 is excellent "and can still run for a long time for all the peoples who don't care about the newest tech and the lastest useless features. I mean, why 3 or 5 rear Cameras when the note8 shots very well with its actual config. it's just an example

Is the battery still good guys?
Samsung said it will still hold 95 percent charge after 2 years is that true?
Is the fingerprint sensor really as bad as they say?

My note 8 is 16 months old, and the battery is as good as day one, accubattery reports that it charges up to 3325 mAh, and the fingerprint sensor is always accurate, it reads in less than a second, but this is MY experience

KukkiGolo said:
I am thinking about buying it but I am not sure yet since I read that it's harder to develop roms for this device and I don't want to be stuck on android pie when the next android version comes out because of that. What I want to know is if it would be a good idea to buy it if I want to keep it for a few years (3-4) or should I buy another phone?
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Android Pie will be the last major update for the Note 8, but it should keep getting security updates for another year or so. If Samsung doesn't release Android 10 firmware, then it can't be ported to the Note 8. There's no AOSP projects for the Note 8, so that won't be ported, either.
If you want to get a device that will keep getting new Android version updates, rather get a Pixel device. If you get the Note 8, you get it for the added features Samsung provides, and not because of their update schedule.
I guess, ultimately, it's down to whether you always want the newest version, or whether you want certain added features. Myself, I prefer the features the Note 8 provides. I'm happy staying on Android Pie for the next year or two until I decide to upgrade my device again to the then latest Note device.

If you shop around you could probably get a Note 9 for a excellent price. However if you are strapped for cash, then the Note 8 is an excellent device. I purchased the Note 8 shortly after the SGS9 series release and I am perfectly happy with my decision and will probably be using it until the battery starts to degrade.

Note 9 still worth it?

Hi guys!
I need your help because I can't decide.
At the moment I have my old OnePlus 3 and this year it's time to change.
I can get the Exynos Note 9 for 639€ and the Exynos 10+ for 800€. Should I get one of this or should I wait for the Note 10?
What would you do?
Thank you for your opinions!

Mario1337 said:
Hi guys!
I need your help because I can't decide.
At the moment I have my old OnePlus 3 and this year it's time to change.
I can get the Exynos Note 9 for 639€ and the Exynos 10+ for 800€. Should I get one of this or should I wait for the Note 10?
What would you do?
Thank you for your opinions!
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If you use SPen and the functions, there is no other device out there to buy. But if you dont use specific SPen feautures, i would recommend you the S10+ because of future Major Updates. Note 9 got Pie so gar, so there will be possible just one Major Update to Android 10 in future. S10+ will get Android 11 i guess.
Anyway my Personal opinion is that the Note 9 is actual one if not THE best device from Samsung. Okay they killed some core feautures with Pie like Wifi WPS and stuff..but Overall it was an good Update i guess.

I'd get note 9 oreo, pie is way to restricted
Photo's[emoji2398] by Sully using SM-N960U or SM-870A

if you don't mind Samsungs new screen design with the cutout, I'd get the s10+. and i guess since you ask between a note and an s-series, that you don't mind about the spen too much. so get the s10+. it's faster and slicker so I've heard in previews.
i personally couldn't get around the cutout tho. and that the new fingerprint sensor under the screen seems to act slower compared to physical ones
those are the two downside I'd say
+ that face unlock is pretty much useless, since you can use a photo to unlock it. but not sure if note 9's face unlock is any better
if you're fine with what i mentioned above you should just get the s10+

Maybe wait for the note 10
if they release the Note10 e IT WILL BE PERFECT

Note 8 and UI 2.0 software 10.0

Does anyone know if the Note 8 is getting any more major updates and if not is there any mods to get the latest software for the note 8?
Thanks

Rayg1022 said:
Does anyone know if the Note 8 is getting any more major updates and if not is there any mods to get the latest software for the note 8?
Thanks
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It wont receive android 10 or ui 2.0. Dunno about any ports for it from other devices

So I'm stuck with what's on here now. I just cant see spending another $1000.00 for a new phone. Its getting ridiculous with all these new devices coming out.

I think that S8 doesn't deserve Android Q because it has like 3 years old but Note 8 just had 1 year and 11 months when android 10 final was released.

SamN8 said:
I think that S8 doesn't deserve Android Q because it has like 3 years old but Note 8 just had 1 year and 11 months when android 10 final was released.
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Both the SGS8 series and the Note 8 were both released in the same year. The old differences is that the SGS8 was released earlier than the Note 8. That said they both run on the same hardware with the exception that the Note 8 has the S-Pen.

Rayg1022 said:
So I'm stuck with what's on here now. I just cant see spending another $1000.00 for a new phone. Its getting ridiculous with all these new devices coming out.
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You know the Note 8 in Europe sells for about 329€ (VAT included) now right!? Buy a Note 9 (for 400 and something) and you'll get Android Q

joluke said:
Buy a Note 9 (for 400 and something) and you'll get Android Q
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This sounds good on paper, but it is still an "old" device (in 2020) that will soon suffer a similar (unsupported) fate to the Note 8 in a few more months.
I believe Samsung is in the business of primarily selling only new phones, so I suspect the Note8's performance may become throttled like an old iPhone in the monthly security updates.
I can't consider selling my Note8 to buy a Note9 for a few dollars more when they are basically the same thing just to get Q. I'm not yet seeing a feature in the Note10 to make me part with my money other than the eye-candy interface.

Q is not worth spending extra cash for. Have tried it on my N9 and N10 and went back to Pie on both. Just my opinion others love it. I still use my N8 and it is still one of the best devices out there in 2020, but let's face it Samsung only gives 2 major updates to a device so S8 Note 8 will not be getting it. Can it support it??? I'm sure it can but Samsung wants to make money by getting boneheads like me to purchase a new device.
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Little chance. Remember that, Note 4 Operating system
Original: Android 4.4.4 "KitKat"
First major update: Android 5.0.1 "Lollipop"
Second major update: Android 5.1.1 "Lollipop"
Third major update: Android 6.0.1 "Marshmallow"
Note 8 Operating system
Original: Android 7.1.1
First major update: Android 8.0
Second major update: Android 9
Third major update: why not?

GokberkTunc said:
Little chance. Remember that
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I did. I was of that same view months ago. However, since so much time has passed, I've concluded that chapter is now closed.

lineage 17.1
Rayg1022 said:
Does anyone know if the Note 8 is getting any more major updates and if not is there any mods to get the latest software for the note 8?
Thanks
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im using lineage 17.1 rom which is based on android 10

iceepyon said:
Both the SGS8 series and the Note 8 were both released in the same year. The old differences is that the SGS8 was released earlier than the Note 8. That said they both run on the same hardware with the exception that the Note 8 has the S-Pen.
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Yes both have same hardware but Note 8 has 6GB RAM and Dual camera and the S8 4GB with a Single camera. I think that a mobile that was release near 2018 by 1000$ deserved Android Q. Samsung policies must change in the flagship.

What's even worse is I'm running a Touchwiz Android 9 rom with Android 10 apps on my 6 edge plus. International device used here in United states with wifi calling..video calls..advanced messaging and volte. My point is if the old 6edge plus can handle this there is no reason the S8 or N8 cant. But I just dont see it happening. Many will read this thread and ask what's the point. But I like to see things like this talked about even if it doesn't go anywhere.
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butchieboy said:
there is no reason the S8 or N8 cant.
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It's not financially viable to support an old device for another year... It might make people NOT shell out $1000+ for a new device if the operating system is the same & officially supported....
It takes a special breed to root, flash and enjoy the fruits of our labour that most people WON'T do with a device that cost a large chunk of cash. Hell, most people don't even know what Android 10 is.
The average consumer has no idea how, or why it's a good thing to use the latest operating system...

Yes this was the point I made before. It's all about $$$$[emoji16]. And you are exactly right, we are a rare breed on xda. Most people get a device because it looks good. Not because of battery..display..themes..roms...root..disable this keep that...camera...lol its shiny so I'm buying it.
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Heck I'm still hanging on with a rooted Note 8 on 7.1 I just can't update it.lol
My SM-N950U Still Rooted Note 8

There's an article on tomsuigde and phonearena indicating that Samsung customer care confirmed note 8 will get android 10
This was from a month ago - any ideas on whether this is accurate?

joluke said:
It wont receive android 10 or ui 2.0. Dunno about any ports for it from other devices
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reservation31 said:
im using lineage 17.1 rom which is based on android 10
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Where and how do I get that?

Rayg1022 said:
Where and how do I get that?
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Only for Exynos SM-N950F
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/development/rom-lineageos-17-1-t4041979

taoveganexus said:
There's an article on tomsuigde and phonearena indicating that Samsung customer care confirmed note 8 will get android 10
This was from a month ago - any ideas on whether this is accurate?
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I don't think those articles about the Note 8 getting Android 10 is incorrect. As the Note 8 has already received 2 major android OS updates. However we should still receive security patches for android Pie.