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Note 4 Nougat Petition

Hello Note 4 users and lovers.
I've created a petition for official note 4 Nougat update.
Please sign and share if you can.
Thanks
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-sa...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

Petition only applies to users of F version. Why does not include C version users?
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Dude, we're still getting monthly security updates and we should be thankful for that. If you want the latest and greatest Android version, upgrade your phone. Note 4 is old, it's acceptable if it doesn't received Nougat.

NeoFox69 said:
Hello Note 4 users and lovers.
I've created a petition for official note 4 Nougat update.
Please sign and share if you can.
Thanks
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-sa...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
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Your petition is biased.
Why not SM-N910 to make it general?
Anyway I'm of the opinion that since the phone was released in October 2014, it should be updated to Nougat because its two-year OS eligibility falls within the time Nougat was officially released by Google.

Not to mention we would have a Note7 by now if Samsung hadn't messed it up. But I agree, the petition is not inclusive for all models .

I only said that I have the F version. I didn't said that only that version deserved the update.

natibongo said:
Your petition is biased.
Why not SM-N910 to make it general?
Anyway I'm of the opinion that since the phone was released in October 2014, it should be updated to Nougat because its two-year OS eligibility falls within the time Nougat was officially released by Google.
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I agree completely, it should be N910 in general but I saw the OP reply below and he is correct that the petition he wrote it just stating his model and not to get nougat only for the F model. I also agree with the second point and have been sort of annoyed with Samsung for this, it's supposed to be 2 year OS update so as mentioned, Oct. 2014 for Note 4 launch and since Nougat came out in August 2016 we should have it. Add to that, a lot of us Note 4 owners bought, and ultimately lost, the Note 7's thanks to Samsung and as a gesture to sort of make up for that they should have added the Note 4 to the Nougat release.
Anyway going slightly off topic;
I love my Note 4 but am ready for a new device. Personally, I love the s-pen and hate to give it up but if the pricing rumors hold true and the conversion to Canadian is somewhat accurate it would be in the $1300 range (give or take) for the S8 so Note 8 would likely be in the same price range. No way will I accept those prices but I will wait and see with the S8 info that comes later today and decide from there. The Note 7 was $1050 CDN, I won't support Samsung if the Note 8 is anything above MAX $1100 CDN and less than 64GB storage (and better have expandable) as that is expensive enough as it is and pushing it IMO.
I'm waiting to see the OnePlus 5 later this year and will likely buy that if Samsung starts going to ridiculous Apple prices. Google also lost me after the Pixel phones being ridiculously overpriced as well. I mean, they want more for the Pixel XL than Samsung wanted for the Note 7... WTF Google?!? That's like LG and HTC thinking they can price at the same range as Samsung as well when they have so little to offer or reason to buy over Samsung and especially over some of these new phones from OnePlus, Huawei, etc... but $1180 for 128GB Pixel XL/$1050 for 32GB Pixel XL compared to $1050 for 64GB Note 7 and well the Note 7 was the far better deal, and phone.
Anyway, that's my rant/2 cents lol.

As long as you are all in signing mode, here is a petition where you can state all you want in the Note8
https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/note8-phablet-as-soon-as-possible

uchihakurtz said:
Dude, we're still getting monthly security updates and we should be thankful for that. If you want the latest and greatest Android version, upgrade your phone. Note 4 is old, it's acceptable if it doesn't received Nougat.
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The 2012's iphone 5 still getting ios updates #respect to apple

ar emoji note 8

coming to note 8?

I do not believe! Officially, you have to buy S9, but after Note8 gets Oreo, it can be done porting the S9 application on Note8.

Port
Is porting the app a relatively simple process? I have flashed my Note 8 to Oreo and I'm curious about porting the app.
michelino159 said:
I do not believe! Officially, you have to buy S9, but after Note8 gets Oreo, it can be done porting the S9 application on Note8.
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wsaunders4 said:
Is porting the app a relatively simple process? I have flashed my Note 8 to Oreo and I'm curious about porting the app.
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No - Its not easy and the AR emoji was made specifically to work on the S9 - it probably will not work on the Note 8 at all...but maybe there is a developer who could work magic. Don't expect to see it for a long time

Must port with cameraS9.apk.I expect Note9.

1WalkerBait said:
I have it working. Will post pics when I can
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Thanks what apps did you use

1WalkerBait said:
Arcore apk, gcam5 arnov version. Wont work at first but let the arcore apk will update through Google then it will work
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Where did you find that apk
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Arcore apk, gcam5 arnov version. Wont work at first but let the arcore apk will update through Google then it will work
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I think you are in the wrong thread we're talking about a note 8 camera not Google camera apk

wsaunders4 said:
Is porting the app a relatively simple process? I have flashed my Note 8 to Oreo and I'm curious about porting the app.
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There is a app that works like ar emoji...
Its really cool app....
And the app name is booble keaboard...you can get this app in playstore

i just finished with a new update of my note 8 with oreo .. but unfortunately it doesn't support ar emoji

So the Note 8 definitely will not get AR emoji? I just got a notice few months ago when I'm not really into the note series I really want the 9 plus I should have waited. The note is too big for me and I like the fingerprint sensor on the nine.

Rose4uKY said:
So the Note 8 definitely will not get AR emoji? I just got a notice few months ago when I'm not really into the note series I really want the 9 plus I should have waited. The note is too big for me and I like the fingerprint sensor on the nine.
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Officially from Samsung, probably not.
Have you held a S9+ yet? It is a tad bit smaller than the Note 8 but not by much, pretty much the same. If you want to swap to a S9+ only because of size, you might be disappointed. S9 would be a noticeable difference but hardware is not the same as S9+

Have you held a S9+ yet? It is a tad bit smaller than the Note 8 but not by much, pretty much the same. If you want to swap to a S9+ only because of size, you might be disappointed. S9 would be a noticeable difference but hardware is not the same as S9+[/QUOTE]
Yes I've held the S9 Plus we originally had the 7 Edge and wanted to upgrade but the 8 plus wasn't enough difference for us to upgrade. And then we saw specs of the note we got it only because it had the dual cameras an the 6 gigs of RAM and was the latest phone out plus Samsung gave us 300 bucks for our 7 edges which is the price we paid for them from Sprint on a two-year contract. But I knew the nine would be out in a few months and I should have waited. But we didn't know that Samsung would still be given $300 out for the 7 Edge so that's another reason we did it that quickly. I'm not really into the note series I have small hands and I never use the pen I don't like where the fingerprint sensor is.
The S9 plus has dual speakers with Dolby Atmos better camera the intelligent scan and of course the AR Emoji which I believe would like to have. Was going to sell my note and get the S9 plus but we just got our phones a few months back and my husband doesn't want me doing that and spending the difference on an S9 Plus so I'm hoping the note get some of the features of the 9. We've only had our notes for like 3 months I paid 650 and got offered 550 but then I'd have to pay 850 for a S9 plus unlocked so it's probably not going to happen

Rose4uKY said:
Have you held a S9+ yet? It is a tad bit smaller than the Note 8 but not by much, pretty much the same. If you want to swap to a S9+ only because of size, you might be disappointed. S9 would be a noticeable difference but hardware is not the same as S9+
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Yes I've held the S9 Plus we originally had the 7 Edge and wanted to upgrade but the 8 plus wasn't enough difference for us to upgrade. And then we saw specs of the note we got it only because it had the dual cameras an the 6 gigs of RAM and was the latest phone out plus Samsung gave us 300 bucks for our 7 edges which is the price we paid for them from Sprint on a two-year contract. But I knew the nine would be out in a few months and I should have waited. But we didn't know that Samsung would still be given $300 out for the 7 Edge so that's another reason we did it that quickly. I'm not really into the note series I have small hands and I never use the pen I don't like where the fingerprint sensor is.
The S9 plus has dual speakers with Dolby Atmos better camera the intelligent scan and of course the AR Emoji which I believe would like to have. Was going to sell my note and get the S9 plus but we just got our phones a few months back and my husband doesn't want me doing that and spending the difference on an S9 Plus so I'm hoping the note get some of the features of the 9. We've only had our notes for like 3 months I paid 650 and got offered 550 but then I'd have to pay 850 for a S9 plus unlocked so it's probably not going to happen[/QUOTE]
I have seen numerous videos and articles that all seem unanimous in suggesting people not upgrade from the Note 8 to the S9. They actually feel that it’s almost a downgrade because the only thing you are really getting is a better chip and the speakers. The S9+ is different where you aren’t losing items that the Note 8 has other than the S Pen, which in my opinion is a big loss, but you are gaining potentially a camera that’s better in low light. However, again every suggestion I’ve seen was to not upgrade. There was one person who said if you really don’t use the S Pen then maybe. I also wanted to point out what the other individual was trying to point out and that’s the difference in size. It’s S9+ at 158 x 74 x 8.5 mm and the Note 8 at 163 x 75 x 8.6 mm. So the dimensions are almost identical. You may want to hold them both in your hand. One suggestion I have for you is something that happened to me personally. When I had the Note 2 and the Note 3 was coming out, I had a friend who asked me if I was going to upgrade. I said honestly, no. I don’t really draw and really don’t use or need the S Pen. He proceeded to show me just a few things that I was unaware of and then suggested I look at a particular site and YouTube video. I ended up buying the Note 3 and everyone except the Note 5 because it didn’t have the SD card. I was completely unaware of all the capabilities. So before you pass on the Note series as a whole, I would just suggest you really learn all of the capabilities of the S Pen.
The other thing that doesn’t help is Samsung got rid of the old S Note in favor of Samsung Notes which is an inferior app. The original S Note came with Action Memo, Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. In my opinion it’s probably the best app ever for the S Pen and maybe even the best app period. I was going to say if you’re interested there’s a way to get it installed that I learned from another Thread in this site. However, I just updated my phone to Oreo and it messed up some of it. It looks like we can’t get Easy Chart installed and Photo Note looks to only work in landscape. But this just happened over the weekend, so I’m hoping that someone will figure out a solution. If you do end up with the S9+, I hope you enjoy it!

sll1313 said:
The other thing that doesn’t help is Samsung got rid of the old S Note in favor of Samsung Notes which is an inferior app. The original S Note came with Action Memo, Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. In my opinion it’s probably the best app ever for the S Pen and maybe even the best app period. I was going to say if you’re interested there’s a way to get it installed that I learned from another Thread in this site. However, I just updated my phone to Oreo and it messed up some of it. It looks like we can’t get Easy Chart installed and Photo Note looks to only work in landscape. But this just happened over the weekend, so I’m hoping that someone will figure out a solution. If you do end up with the S9+, I hope you enjoy it!
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There is a post here where some guys teach how to enable scrapbook and all features and apps. Also I modded all those apps to work on nougat but I don't try yet on oreo because i don't need it now. You should try it; I'm agree with you, s note had been the best Samsung app with all features.
Regards
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/how-to-easy-chart-note-8-t3699950
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It seems that on oreo is really not working... to bad.

Thanks everyone! For now I am keeping my Note 8. My husband says we just got these 3 months ago and if I sell my Note and only get 550 I still have to pay the difference for the unlocked s9 plus. I just wish we would of waited but we didn't know Samsung would still be giving $300 for the 7 edge. But I have small hands and I know the 9 plus is big too I like where the fingerprint sensor is. I don't use the pen or know about other Notes and what they had but I do love my Note it's fast and I have no complaints and will be getting Oreo on my unlocked in the next couple weeks. All carriers have it now I read. But yesterday I did play with an S9 that was in this little Best Buy mobile at the mall and I made a gallery of like 18 AR Emojis and sent them to myself than deleted them off the phone so I could see what it looked like. I've seen a 9 plus on display too and yesterday he said here hold an 8 plus same as 9 plus. I wouldn't do a regular 9 cause of hardware but I was also thinking I maybe should just wait for the S10 and maybe it will be 5G ready.
We have Sprint and got unlocked so we could switch to another carrier here soon. But thanks for now I will keep my Note if hubby would of let me I probably would of done it though and got a purple s9 plus but I am not unhappy and I love my Note works great. Just hope battery stays the same or is better once we get Oreo. Cause I always had to charge my 7 edge at work in the lower level with no signal my Note I never have to charge.

The pie on the note

Would the pie be coming to the Note8 anytime soon?
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bshawnwadialo said:
Would the pie be coming to the Note8 anytime soon?
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Looking at what has been written in various reports, the Note 8 should get it in January 2019!
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robmeik said:
Looking at what has been written in various reports, the Note 8 should get it in January 2019!
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Thank you
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robmeik said:
Looking at what has been written in various reports, the Note 8 should get it in January 2019!
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You are reading about the S9 for ~January.
After that, there is the Note 9 (in the second wave of releases), then the Note 8 in the third wave of releases).
January....for Note 8, will not be happening. You are better off with April 1, 2019 as an April fool's joke.
Until then, you can still expect to get the monthly security patches.

The Note 8 will not get Pie until right before the Note 10 is about to come out. Just like when we got Oreo right before the Note 9 came out. Samsung is the worst on Android updates they are so far behind. The Note 9 launched with Oreo phones that came out a month after have Pie.

I dont understand why all the trouble about firmware updates, security patches I agree, but I get a device because I really like it as it is from the start, moreover, it is designed based on a certain android version, that is why sometimes the major updates create some sorts of problems, I really prefer the truly stable firmware the phone came with, but that is MY opinion

jason504 said:
Samsung is the worst on Android updates they are so far behind.
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No. It is called "business". Samsung is in bed with your carrier to ensure you update the latest handset (so they both win).
winol said:
I get a device because I really like it as it is from the start, moreover, it is designed based on a certain android version
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I only buy flagship devices just to get the latest firmware updates (security patches and bragging rights). I just don't want a Vanilla Google device like the Pixel as I think it is incomplete. Google is "fixing" the fragmentation problem, so there should be no more "unstable firmware updates" as you are alluding to. If you were fair, you would admit that THOSE problems are caused by users who flash / update their devices, and don't perform a factory wipe, with a clean setup.

jason504 said:
The Note 8 will not get Pie until right before the Note 10 is about to come out. Just like when we got Oreo right before the Note 9 came out. Samsung is the worst on Android updates they are so far behind. The Note 9 launched with Oreo phones that came out a month after have Pie.
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We got Oreo in March, and N9 released in August.

Note 8 SM-N9500 Dual SIM 256Gb pie update came yesterday! All OK, One UI is a vast improvement! The only thing I miss is the SMS widget!
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Should I get the Note 8?

I am thinking about buying it but I am not sure yet since I read that it's harder to develop roms for this device and I don't want to be stuck on android pie when the next android version comes out because of that. What I want to know is if it would be a good idea to buy it if I want to keep it for a few years (3-4) or should I buy another phone?

I can tell you this:
The note 8 is an excellent device, I think pie will be the last major firmware update for it from samsung , I skipped the note 9, as I think a two year cycle is adequate, in your case, it is ultimately about how much money you are willing to spend, you can get a new note 8 very cheap, but if android Q and the next one is of so much importance to you, then get a note 9 or wait for the note 10 that I expect to be formidable

If getting note 8 and want root and custom roms then go for SM-N950F / F/DS / N (exynos soc versions).
Stay away from the USA/Canadian versions SM-N950U/U1/W they have locked bootloader.

BluePhnx said:
If getting note 8 and want root and custom roms then go for SM-N950F / F/DS / N (exynos soc versions).
Stay away from the USA/Canadian versions SM-N950U/U1/W they have locked bootloader.
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Thanks for the info. I am also considering to buy one since it's a well built phone and is cheap now. I don't really care about the android but Samsung gave pip on nougat so I guess I won't miss out any new features and I will have a secondary mi a1 which has been through rigorous flashing of roms:silly:

winol said:
I can tell you this:
The note 8 is an excellent device, I think pie will be the last major firmware update for it from samsung , I skipped the note 9, as I think a two year cycle is adequate, in your case, it is ultimately about how much money you are willing to spend, you can get a new note 8 very cheap, but if android Q and the next one is of so much importance to you, then get a note 9 or wait for the note 10 that I expect to be formidable
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i'm in the Same case. I've Skipped the note 9 and waiting for the 10. And as you said, the note 8 is excellent "and can still run for a long time for all the peoples who don't care about the newest tech and the lastest useless features. I mean, why 3 or 5 rear Cameras when the note8 shots very well with its actual config. it's just an example

Is the battery still good guys?
Samsung said it will still hold 95 percent charge after 2 years is that true?
Is the fingerprint sensor really as bad as they say?

My note 8 is 16 months old, and the battery is as good as day one, accubattery reports that it charges up to 3325 mAh, and the fingerprint sensor is always accurate, it reads in less than a second, but this is MY experience

KukkiGolo said:
I am thinking about buying it but I am not sure yet since I read that it's harder to develop roms for this device and I don't want to be stuck on android pie when the next android version comes out because of that. What I want to know is if it would be a good idea to buy it if I want to keep it for a few years (3-4) or should I buy another phone?
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Android Pie will be the last major update for the Note 8, but it should keep getting security updates for another year or so. If Samsung doesn't release Android 10 firmware, then it can't be ported to the Note 8. There's no AOSP projects for the Note 8, so that won't be ported, either.
If you want to get a device that will keep getting new Android version updates, rather get a Pixel device. If you get the Note 8, you get it for the added features Samsung provides, and not because of their update schedule.
I guess, ultimately, it's down to whether you always want the newest version, or whether you want certain added features. Myself, I prefer the features the Note 8 provides. I'm happy staying on Android Pie for the next year or two until I decide to upgrade my device again to the then latest Note device.

If you shop around you could probably get a Note 9 for a excellent price. However if you are strapped for cash, then the Note 8 is an excellent device. I purchased the Note 8 shortly after the SGS9 series release and I am perfectly happy with my decision and will probably be using it until the battery starts to degrade.

S8 to get Android 10 update after all? and note 8?

We know that the hardware is identical but will it serve for our note 8?
Maybe in a custom rom version is it safe but officially?
what do you think?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s8-to-get-android-10-update-after-all/
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63or63 said:
We know that the hardware is identical but will it serve for our note 8?
Maybe in a custom rom version is it safe but officially?
what do you think?
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IF the S8 does get Android 10, I am quite sure it would come to the N8 too.
I think we deserve it after putting trust back in the note series after dodgy batteries.

That is just a unconfirmed rumor. However if it does prove to be true then the Note 8 should also get Android 10 as well.

Hope N8 dont go Andoird 10, i think actualy N8 its very stable like it is! Hope it last more 3 years like this

burnin said:
Hope N8 dont go Andoird 10, i think actualy N8 its very stable like it is! Hope it last more 3 years like this
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Samsung will probably continue to provide security patches for the Note 8 running on Pie anyway in the future. So it should be fine.

iceepyon said:
Samsung will probably continue to provide security patches for the Note 8 running on Pie anyway in the future. So it should be fine.
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just getting an update today ---> N950FXXS8DSK1

MystaMagoo said:
just getting an update today ---> N950FXXS8DSK1
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That's just the monthly patch. I don't anticipate an Android 10 update for even the S8, as Samsung is in the business of selling new phones.

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That's just the monthly patch. I don't anticipate an Android 10 update for even the S8, as Samsung is in the business of selling new phones.
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Yep
Was just elaborating on the security patch release.
I doubt we will get A10 for our N8.

The Open Handset Alliance stipulates that manufacturers should support firmware updates for (Android) devices for the first 18 months. The Note 8 is older than that. Since our (international) Note 8's get the security updates directly from Samsung, we can continue to expect only the monthly security patches. Carrier-branded Note 8's are at the mercy of the respective carriers for the security updates.
Personally, I don't see a benefit to switch to a Note 9 to get this update (from a hardware perspective).
I'd probably do a Note 10 in 2020 because I feel my Note 8's internal battery will stop holding charge then, and screen-burn in may be an issue at that point. My Note 8 is still in mint condition, so I'm trying to find a fault with it .
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Samsung can always argue that they migrated us from 7.1.1 to Pie (and are still giving us security patches).

Very Cool! I read up a bit. Who knows if it is true or not. IF so I might just keep my trusty old s8+ which rocks btw instead of getting a note 10+ or a s20 just yet.

noidodroid said:
Who knows if it is true or not.
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Samsung does. Omitting the Note 10 from all published list of devices for an Android 10 release would be a good indication.
Right now, I'd jump ship and get the Note equivalent of the S20 Ultra, only for the 100x camera, but the screen is too big to fit my average pocket, and the price is currently out of my reach.