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Note 8 trip knox

I just brought an Galaxy note 8 N950F/DS yesterday. After I reboot the device, it shows a lock image. I can factory reset nornally, enter to the bootloader, and the knox trip to 0x1. I dont know the figure lock when I reboot the device mention what ?
Another question is that can I start to root my device and start to use SS Pay ? Because My knox is 0x1 already so I think I can root it to install some xposed module and use magic tricks to use SS Pay.
Thank you so much.

Samsung pay, as far as I know, will not work on rooted devices

Sorry bud but Samsung pay (and secure folder) depends on knox flag being 0x0.
Once it's at 0x1 there is no going back!
But you can use google pay with magisk hide root.

BluePhnx said:
Sorry bud but Samsung pay (and secure folder) depends on knox flag being 0x0.
Once it's at 0x1 there is no going back!
But you can use google pay with magisk hide root.
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Yes, I know it, and i don't know I can root it or not ? And what is the lock image mean after I reboot th3 device.

winol said:
Samsung pay, as far as I know, will not work on rooted devices
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I read in hmthe xda said that I still use the ss pay with rooted devices if I use magic or SU hide to hide root under the ss pay.

nguyen.hoangtrankhoi said:
I read in hmthe xda said that I still use the ss pay with rooted devices if I use magic or SU hide to hide root under the ss pay.
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Nope. Samsung Pay doesn't check for root or even an unlocked bootloader (which is what that lock icon on startup indicates). You could re-lock the bootloader and flash a complete stock rom and Samsung Pay will not work due to Knox being tripped.
There is no way to reset the Knox counter back to 0x0, which means there's no way to get Samsung Pay working on your device. Android Pay, yes - Samsung Pay, no.
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Devhux said:
Nope. Samsung Pay doesn't check for root or even an unlocked bootloader (which is what that lock icon on startup indicates). You could re-lock the bootloader and flash a complete stock rom and Samsung Pay will not work due to Knox being tripped.
There is no way to reset the Knox counter back to 0x0, which means there's no way to get Samsung Pay working on your device. Android Pay, yes - Samsung Pay, no.
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I read it on this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-how-to-root-note8-efs-backup-t3677038
And it is said that I still use the Samsung Pay and Secure Folder.
- As of now you will lose Samsung Pay and Secure folder forever if you root once, even unrooting won't help. (hope in future we can get it working on tripped knox device). Also you may not able to run some banking apps, but for that there are some workaround like Magisk Hide or SU hide, google it.
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I don't know if it is still work or not. I need to wait 7 days to unlock the OEM for test. Hope it can work
And about the Lock Icon after I reboot it, I think the reason is I set the secure unlock ( require the PIN code after reboot device ) so the Icon appears. I remove that option and the Lock Icon is gone. I don't know it is the reason or not ? Some people said I unlock bootloader and that icon appears.

The workaround is for banking apps - note it says you will lose Samsung Pay and secure folder FOREVER. Magisk or SU Hide cannot hide Knox, and as it says, even if you aren't rooted you won't get Samsung Pay back. It's been this way since Samsung Pay was released, so don't expect a workaround for that anytime soon (if ever).
As of now you will lose Samsung Pay and Secure folder forever if you root once, even unrooting won't help.
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As for the lock icon, I misunderstood. If the bootloader is unlocked I believe you'll see a small white lock under the "Samsung Galaxy Note 8" logo on startup. If you enter a pattern / PIN before seeing an unlock icon, then yes, that is indeed secure startup.
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Devhux said:
The workaround is for banking apps - note it says you will lose Samsung Pay and secure folder FOREVER. Magisk or SU Hide cannot hide Knox, and as it says, even if you aren't rooted you won't get Samsung Pay back. It's been this way since Samsung Pay was released, so don't expect a workaround for that anytime soon (if ever).
As for the lock icon, I misunderstood. If the bootloader is unlocked I believe you'll see a small white lock under the "Samsung Galaxy Note 8" logo on startup. If you enter a pattern / PIN before seeing an unlock icon, then yes, that is indeed secure startup.
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Great, thanks for your information. Thank you Devhux

Galaxy note 8 Rooting and Unrooting /?/

Hi . Can galaxy note 8 oreo be fully unrooted after rooting , with working samsung health and all other knox dependent apps ?
Can it go back to be as it has been never rooted before ,
at all ?
Thank U

No.
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No, once rooted, secure folder and samsung pay are gone forever, knox flag 0x1 can not be reset to 0x0, that's it, no workarounds for this

winol said:
No, once rooted, secure folder and samsung pay are gone forever, knox flag 0x1 can not be reset to 0x0, that's it, no workarounds for this
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Thank you for your answer .
Well . If the answer is no
I am just wondering . What is the effect of unrooting ??

jiries said:
Thank you for your answer .
Well . If the answer is no
I am just wondering . What is the effect of unrooting ??
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You can unroot no problem, but there will still be evidence the phone has been rooted so Warranty would become void. In addition as Samsung Pay and Secure folder require uncompromised KNOX security they will no longer work - EVER.

jiries said:
Thank you for your answer .
Well . If the answer is no
I am just wondering . What is the effect of unrooting ??
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The effect of unrooting will be that some apps that detect root and refuse to work, will work again, just that, if you already rooted your device, then enjoy the freedom you obtained, add try to make the most out of it, mods, roms, debloat, etc

How do you disable Knox?

G'day XDA Developers.
I would love to root my Samsung Galaxy S10 then install a custom recovery (TWRP) then flash a custom rom (LinageOS) how ever I trip Knox when ever I attempt to do these things. So I was wondering how do you go about disabling Knox?
After some Googeling I found this site https://www.progeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-samsung-knox/ How ever these methods require you to first root your phone but rooting triggers Knox.
So I am at a loss here I am running stock android rom until I figure out how to bypass Knox.

OzGreatAndTerrible said:
G'day XDA Developers.
I would love to root my Samsung Galaxy S10 then install a custom recovery (TWRP) then flash a custom rom (LinageOS) how ever I trip Knox when ever I attempt to do these things. So I was wondering how do you go about disabling Knox?
After some Googeling I found this site https://www.progeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-samsung-knox/ How ever these methods require you to first root your phone but rooting triggers Knox.
So I am at a loss here I am running stock android rom until I figure out how to bypass Knox.
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you cant completely block knox...
unlocking bl and flashing modified firmeare wil trip knox.. u cant reset knox flag either

Update: You can disable Knox by using Multidisabler: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ynos/g97xf-multi-disabler-encryption-t3919714

OzGreatAndTerrible said:
Update: You can disable Knox by using Multidisabler: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ynos/g97xf-multi-disabler-encryption-t3919714
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thats always been around lolol.. but regardless ur post was more about not tripping knox which ur knox is in fact tripped so "disabling" knox doesnt change anything really.. also, that zip doesnt really disable knox.. it disables verification, defex, force encryption etc.

Actually it says that it disables vault keeper which is supposed to replace Knox but any way yea your right my post was more about flashing anything trips knox so how are you supposed to get around that.

OzGreatAndTerrible said:
Actually it says that it disables vault keeper which is supposed to replace Knox but any way yea your right my post was more about flashing anything trips knox so how are you supposed to get around that.
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vaultkeeper is not to replace knox.. samsung bases all their security on knox.. vaultkeeper is in addition to knox..
there is no way around tripping knox.. the knox warranty bit is a physical fuse that gets blown when bl is unlocked and u flash a custom firmware and there is no way to reset it..
magiskhide can sometimes "fake" it but with safetynet improving if ur device is set to use hardware then there wont be any way around that either in the long run

elliwigy said:
vaultkeeper is not to replace knox.. samsung bases all their security on knox.. vaultkeeper is in addition to knox..
there is no way around tripping knox.. the knox warranty bit is a physical fuse that gets blown when bl is unlocked and u flash a custom firmware and there is no way to reset it..
magiskhide can sometimes "fake" it but with safetynet improving if ur device is set to use hardware then there wont be any way around that either in the long run
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If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?

ryanallaire said:
If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
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it will likely cause most samsung apps not to work unless theres any tricks that still work also

ryanallaire said:
If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
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I don't care about voiding warranty. What happens when I try and flash anything custom on the device Knox gets tripped and the phone refuses to boot. Thats what I am talking about trying to bypass.

I have Galaxy Tab Active3, which is locked to organization and it seems to have Knox enabled.
I want to Factory reset it so I can use it for private use.
I cannot get it into download mode, but I can get it in recovery mode. However, the Wipe data/factory reset option seems to be disabled.
Dialing *#0*# and *#*#88#*# from emergency dialer do not work either.
Any advice how to remove the Knox protection and factory reset the device, so I can set it up from scratch and remove the organization lock?

checho_85 said:
I have Galaxy Tab Active3, which is locked to organization and it seems to have Knox enabled.
I want to Factory reset it so I can use it for private use.
I cannot get it into download mode, but I can get it in recovery mode. However, the Wipe data/factory reset option seems to be disabled.
Dialing *#0*# and *#*#88#*# from emergency dialer do not work either.
Any advice how to remove the Knox protection and factory reset the device, so I can set it up from scratch and remove the organization lock?
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I would be interested in, too.

reset Knox

What is the best way to reset Knox to 0x0? If possible without root...

mjoude said:
What is the best way to reset Knox to 0x0? If possible without root...
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short answer: no, you cant reset knox back to 0x0.

The reason i didn't root was that i lose more functionality than i gain and there's no going back to knox 0x0 after that. I couldn't imagine my S3 Mini or S5 without root but my Note9 is perfect without root as many things that were available only with root in the past are included in the stock firmware or in Good Lock modules.

yaibakt said:
short answer: no, you cant reset knox back to 0x0.
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https://www.knoxreset.com
What about..?

mjoude said:
https://www.knoxreset.com
What about..?
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It's a scam. The Knox flag is indicating the state of an eFuse, which can't be changed nor reverted.

Shadowprince94 said:
It's a scam. The Knox flag is indicating the state of an eFuse, which can't be changed nor reverted.
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The ONLY way to get KNOX back to 0X0 is to replace the mainboard...
You can get a rooted phone to display KNOX as 0X0 but it is cosmetic only and won't fool any apps that don't work on a rooted phone.
If you haven't replaced the boot file, rooted or replaced the recovery then an app you have installed likely is malware that has tried or successfully gained root privileges...

mjoude said:
What is the best way to reset Knox to 0x0? If possible without root...
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Simple answer NO i made a mistake rooting my Tab S4 i'm never ever rooting unless i get a SnapDragon as they i heard you can root without trpping Knox! Also root is not needed as we have Youtube Vanced, Disconnect Pro! Package Disabler Pro, and #Mono oh forgot about Goodlock! Unless your planning on running Custom Roms it's simply not worth Rooting! As it's to much headache to root update reroot etc!

N1NJATH3ORY said:
Simple answer NO i made a mistake rooting my Tab S4 i'm never ever rooting unless i get a SnapDragon as they i heard you can root without trpping Knox! Also root is not needed as we have Youtube Vanced, Disconnect Pro! Package Disabler Pro, and #Mono oh forgot about Goodlock! Unless your planning on running Custom Roms it's simply not worth Rooting! As it's to much headache to root update reroot etc!
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This^ I also removed a few preinstalled apps via ADB and granted one permission for Tasker via ADB as well. Root was mandatory in the past but not any more at all.

Question S21 ultra knox 0x1

hello i have a problem with my s21 ultra, my s21 ultra was rooted and now i have the original software but knox 0x1 and samsung pass no longer work either and everytime cames popup access denied unauthorized changes were made to your phone.....how i can reset knox to 0x0 ?

You can not. If you are rooted you can make things work with spoofing. Otherwise, you can’t use Knox features. It is a efus, you would have to replace your entire motherboard to fix.

Arealhooman said:
You can not. If you are rooted you can make things work with spoofing. Otherwise, you can’t use Knox features. It is a efus, you would have to replace your entire motherboard to fix.
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Hmm ok thank you