Hi . Can galaxy note 8 oreo be fully unrooted after rooting , with working samsung health and all other knox dependent apps ?
Can it go back to be as it has been never rooted before ,
at all ?
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No.
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No, once rooted, secure folder and samsung pay are gone forever, knox flag 0x1 can not be reset to 0x0, that's it, no workarounds for this
winol said:
No, once rooted, secure folder and samsung pay are gone forever, knox flag 0x1 can not be reset to 0x0, that's it, no workarounds for this
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Thank you for your answer .
Well . If the answer is no
I am just wondering . What is the effect of unrooting ??
jiries said:
Thank you for your answer .
Well . If the answer is no
I am just wondering . What is the effect of unrooting ??
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You can unroot no problem, but there will still be evidence the phone has been rooted so Warranty would become void. In addition as Samsung Pay and Secure folder require uncompromised KNOX security they will no longer work - EVER.
jiries said:
Thank you for your answer .
Well . If the answer is no
I am just wondering . What is the effect of unrooting ??
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The effect of unrooting will be that some apps that detect root and refuse to work, will work again, just that, if you already rooted your device, then enjoy the freedom you obtained, add try to make the most out of it, mods, roms, debloat, etc
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Just have a question if I root my phone will I be unable to use Samsung pay even if I restore to stock firmware and unroot it? Is that's the case I think I will just live with it.
kuailan said:
Just have a question if I root my phone will I be unable to use Samsung pay even if I restore to stock firmware and unroot it? Is that's the case I think I will just live with it.
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hi,
in sort yes, if you root you will trip Knox counter Yes, even if you flash back to stock Rom, your Knox counter will show. that's it's tripped (0x 1.. etc.) So you won't be able to use Samsung Pay.
All my devices Note 2,Note 3 , Note 4
Note 8.0 tablet is rooted Not the Note5, so far not interested. It's smooth enough, Themes in Theme Store i am happy with.
Battery is very good overall.
I get my "root " enjoyment " with all my other devices....!
Just my take on situation of root re Note5.
Good luck
Yes. Even if u ruu back to total stock and unroot your knox wil still be tripped and samsung pay will not work. This happened on my s6. After unroot and odin back it still was tripped. For this reason i choose to not root my note 5
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Maybe there will be a way to reset the Knox counter in the future. I had used triangles away for my S4 in the past.
It was bootloop and stuck on samsung logo , then I install new firmware via samsung smart switch and working normal ,
But when i want to use samsung pay there is error ms " access denied" mine is N920I with stock 6.0.1
Please help me
jakarianto said:
It was bootloop and stuck on samsung logo , then I install new firmware via samsung smart switch and working normal ,
But when i want to use samsung pay there is error ms " access denied" mine is N920I with stock 6.0.1
Please help me
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You ever rooted your phone
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KatariaMax said:
You ever rooted your phone
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It was rooted , but now unrooted
jakarianto said:
It was rooted , but now unrooted
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Samsung Pay integrates Knox. Rooting your phone trips a Knox flag that can never be reset, and when that flag is tripped, Knox will not authenticate some actions such as Samsung Pay. This means you will not be able to use Samsung Pay any more. Verify your Knox security flag is now 0x1 (tripped/void) instead of 0x0 (secure/intact) to confirm this. I believe this flag is displayed in the bootloader and/or diagnostic menus. Magisk v12 offers an experimental option to fake a 0x0 Knox, if your Knox flag is already void it won't hurt to mod the phone again to try this. I haven't found anyone that has tried to use Samsung Pay after installing Magisk v12 so there are no guarantees if this will work.
andrewia said:
Samsung Pay integrates Knox. Rooting your phone trips a Knox flag that can never be reset, and when that flag is tripped, Knox will not authenticate some actions such as Samsung Pay. This means you will not be able to use Samsung Pay any more. Verify your Knox security flag is now 0x1 (tripped/void) instead of 0x0 (secure/intact) to confirm this. I believe this flag is displayed in the bootloader and/or diagnostic menus. Magisk v12 offers an experimental option to fake a 0x0 Knox, if your Knox flag is already void it won't hurt to mod the phone again to try this. I haven't found anyone that has tried to use Samsung Pay after installing Magisk v12 so there are no guarantees if this will work.
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Isn't 0x0 Knox the same as 0x1 Knox = 0?
cheesechocolate said:
Isn't 0x0 Knox the same as 0x1 Knox = 0?
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"0x" means hexadecimal, not multiply by zero -_-
Can someone confirm if it works with Magisk v12. Really wish to use Samsung Pay but this tripped Knox thing is annoying.
badmaash said:
Can someone confirm if it works with Magisk v12. Really wish to use Samsung Pay but this tripped Knox thing is annoying.
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Sadly no, it dosent work already rooted with magisk v12 and no luck with spay. Just hoping it gets fixed in upcoming versions.
Hey guys,
I rooted my phone but after using the custom ROM I decided to unroot my phone by flashing a stock firmware through Odin. Everything works fine but Samsung health is showing "Because of a new security policy. Samsung Health can't be opened on a rooted device. (0x110040null5c1)"
Please help me to resolve this issue as I want to resell my device now.
Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 (N920G)
chmosama said:
Hey guys,
I rooted my phone but after using the custom ROM I decided to unroot my phone by flashing a stock firmware through Odin. Everything works fine but Samsung health is showing "Because of a new security policy. Samsung Health can't be opened on a rooted device. (0x110040null5c1)"
Please help me to resolve this issue as I want to resell my device now.
Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 (N920G)
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That is perfectly normal. As long as you rooted your device before, Samsung will somehow not let you use some of their services and trip Knox, even something that is as stupid as Samsung Health. The only way to fix that is by rooting your phone again, going into build.prop and setting ro.tima=1.
Crowbar Asdfghjkl said:
That is perfectly normal. As long as you rooted your device before, Samsung will somehow not let you use some of their services and trip Knox, even something that is as stupid as Samsung Health. The only way to fix that is by rooting your phone again, going into build.prop and setting ro.tima=1.
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after doing changes in build.prop, can I go back to stock without trip Knox error?
chmosama said:
after doing changes in build.prop, can I go back to stock without trip Knox error?
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I don't think so, as Odin might replace your build.prop during flashing. And your Knox is forever tripped.
Crowbar Asdfghjkl said:
I don't think so, as Odin might replace your build.prop during flashing. And your Knox is forever tripped.
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thank you for your kind help
chmosama said:
Hey guys,
I rooted my phone but after using the custom ROM I decided to unroot my phone by flashing a stock firmware through Odin. Everything works fine but Samsung health is showing "Because of a new security policy. Samsung Health can't be opened on a rooted device. (0x110040null5c1)"
Please help me to resolve this issue as I want to resell my device now.
Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 (N920G)
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I have same problem with my Samsung galaxy Note 5 (N920C)
I just brought an Galaxy note 8 N950F/DS yesterday. After I reboot the device, it shows a lock image. I can factory reset nornally, enter to the bootloader, and the knox trip to 0x1. I dont know the figure lock when I reboot the device mention what ?
Another question is that can I start to root my device and start to use SS Pay ? Because My knox is 0x1 already so I think I can root it to install some xposed module and use magic tricks to use SS Pay.
Thank you so much.
Samsung pay, as far as I know, will not work on rooted devices
Sorry bud but Samsung pay (and secure folder) depends on knox flag being 0x0.
Once it's at 0x1 there is no going back!
But you can use google pay with magisk hide root.
BluePhnx said:
Sorry bud but Samsung pay (and secure folder) depends on knox flag being 0x0.
Once it's at 0x1 there is no going back!
But you can use google pay with magisk hide root.
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Yes, I know it, and i don't know I can root it or not ? And what is the lock image mean after I reboot th3 device.
winol said:
Samsung pay, as far as I know, will not work on rooted devices
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I read in hmthe xda said that I still use the ss pay with rooted devices if I use magic or SU hide to hide root under the ss pay.
nguyen.hoangtrankhoi said:
I read in hmthe xda said that I still use the ss pay with rooted devices if I use magic or SU hide to hide root under the ss pay.
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Nope. Samsung Pay doesn't check for root or even an unlocked bootloader (which is what that lock icon on startup indicates). You could re-lock the bootloader and flash a complete stock rom and Samsung Pay will not work due to Knox being tripped.
There is no way to reset the Knox counter back to 0x0, which means there's no way to get Samsung Pay working on your device. Android Pay, yes - Samsung Pay, no.
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Nope. Samsung Pay doesn't check for root or even an unlocked bootloader (which is what that lock icon on startup indicates). You could re-lock the bootloader and flash a complete stock rom and Samsung Pay will not work due to Knox being tripped.
There is no way to reset the Knox counter back to 0x0, which means there's no way to get Samsung Pay working on your device. Android Pay, yes - Samsung Pay, no.
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I read it on this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-how-to-root-note8-efs-backup-t3677038
And it is said that I still use the Samsung Pay and Secure Folder.
- As of now you will lose Samsung Pay and Secure folder forever if you root once, even unrooting won't help. (hope in future we can get it working on tripped knox device). Also you may not able to run some banking apps, but for that there are some workaround like Magisk Hide or SU hide, google it.
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I don't know if it is still work or not. I need to wait 7 days to unlock the OEM for test. Hope it can work
And about the Lock Icon after I reboot it, I think the reason is I set the secure unlock ( require the PIN code after reboot device ) so the Icon appears. I remove that option and the Lock Icon is gone. I don't know it is the reason or not ? Some people said I unlock bootloader and that icon appears.
The workaround is for banking apps - note it says you will lose Samsung Pay and secure folder FOREVER. Magisk or SU Hide cannot hide Knox, and as it says, even if you aren't rooted you won't get Samsung Pay back. It's been this way since Samsung Pay was released, so don't expect a workaround for that anytime soon (if ever).
As of now you will lose Samsung Pay and Secure folder forever if you root once, even unrooting won't help.
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As for the lock icon, I misunderstood. If the bootloader is unlocked I believe you'll see a small white lock under the "Samsung Galaxy Note 8" logo on startup. If you enter a pattern / PIN before seeing an unlock icon, then yes, that is indeed secure startup.
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Devhux said:
The workaround is for banking apps - note it says you will lose Samsung Pay and secure folder FOREVER. Magisk or SU Hide cannot hide Knox, and as it says, even if you aren't rooted you won't get Samsung Pay back. It's been this way since Samsung Pay was released, so don't expect a workaround for that anytime soon (if ever).
As for the lock icon, I misunderstood. If the bootloader is unlocked I believe you'll see a small white lock under the "Samsung Galaxy Note 8" logo on startup. If you enter a pattern / PIN before seeing an unlock icon, then yes, that is indeed secure startup.
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Great, thanks for your information. Thank you Devhux
What is the best way to reset Knox to 0x0? If possible without root...
mjoude said:
What is the best way to reset Knox to 0x0? If possible without root...
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short answer: no, you cant reset knox back to 0x0.
The reason i didn't root was that i lose more functionality than i gain and there's no going back to knox 0x0 after that. I couldn't imagine my S3 Mini or S5 without root but my Note9 is perfect without root as many things that were available only with root in the past are included in the stock firmware or in Good Lock modules.
yaibakt said:
short answer: no, you cant reset knox back to 0x0.
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https://www.knoxreset.com
What about..?
mjoude said:
https://www.knoxreset.com
What about..?
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It's a scam. The Knox flag is indicating the state of an eFuse, which can't be changed nor reverted.
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It's a scam. The Knox flag is indicating the state of an eFuse, which can't be changed nor reverted.
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The ONLY way to get KNOX back to 0X0 is to replace the mainboard...
You can get a rooted phone to display KNOX as 0X0 but it is cosmetic only and won't fool any apps that don't work on a rooted phone.
If you haven't replaced the boot file, rooted or replaced the recovery then an app you have installed likely is malware that has tried or successfully gained root privileges...
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Simple answer NO i made a mistake rooting my Tab S4 i'm never ever rooting unless i get a SnapDragon as they i heard you can root without trpping Knox! Also root is not needed as we have Youtube Vanced, Disconnect Pro! Package Disabler Pro, and #Mono oh forgot about Goodlock! Unless your planning on running Custom Roms it's simply not worth Rooting! As it's to much headache to root update reroot etc!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Simple answer NO i made a mistake rooting my Tab S4 i'm never ever rooting unless i get a SnapDragon as they i heard you can root without trpping Knox! Also root is not needed as we have Youtube Vanced, Disconnect Pro! Package Disabler Pro, and #Mono oh forgot about Goodlock! Unless your planning on running Custom Roms it's simply not worth Rooting! As it's to much headache to root update reroot etc!
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This^ I also removed a few preinstalled apps via ADB and granted one permission for Tasker via ADB as well. Root was mandatory in the past but not any more at all.