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So this may be a dumb question but what are the advantages and disadvantages of checking the "lock home in memory" box in the Cyanogen performance settings?
I'm not an Android expert, but from my understanding of it ...
Personally, I'd keep Home locked in memory on the Nook.
On older devices with low memory, you'd want every bit of it free for running applications.
Let's say you had 24 MB of free and usable memory, and your Home was taking up 6 MB. If your system claimed that, that is like getting a quick 25% boost to memory.
However, hitting the Home button would cause the Desktop to take longer to display, as it now had to fight to get some memory back just to load back up.
Keeping Home locked in memory means that it will not give up what it has allocated, so that you can always quickly switch back to it. Since the Nook has 512MB of RAM, I've usually seen something like 180-380 MB free on mine at all times, so I don't worry about releasing the tiny chunk Home claims.
Someone, *please* correct me if I am wrong.
BitingChaos said:
I'm not an Android expert, but from my understanding of it ...
Personally, I'd keep Home locked in memory on the Nook.
On older devices with low memory, you'd want every bit of it free for running applications.
Let's say you had 24 MB of free and usable memory, and your Home was taking up 6 MB. If your system claimed that, that is like getting a quick 25% boost to memory.
However, hitting the Home button would cause the Desktop to take longer to display, as it now had to fight to get some memory back just to load back up.
Keeping Home locked in memory means that it will not give up what it has allocated, so that you can always quickly switch back to it. Since the Nook has 512MB of RAM, I've usually seen something like 180-380 MB free on mine at all times, so I don't worry about releasing the tiny chunk Home claims.
Someone, *please* correct me if I am wrong.
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Thanks for the reply, this is pretty much what I assumed. If this is the case, and it sounds logical, then I'm bit confused as to why it isn't automatically checked in CM7 anyway.
Default options are weird.
For my old G1, not locking it in memory makes sense. For the newer Nook, locking it in memory would be better.
Other defaults of CM7 include the Camera and Phone app on the Desktop for the Nook. Really?
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Other defaults of CM7 include the Camera and Phone app on the Desktop for the Nook. Really?
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Those apps are tied to strange but important parts of the OS, so they can't be easily removed.
Hello everybody,
I recently bought a galaxy note (this past saturday) and from day one, I've been having problems with the phone being too laggy. I've noticed that RAM usage never gets below 4-500 and when I open even one app (like facebook or the browser), it immediately spikes up and can get as high as 700+! Surely this is not normal! My Galaxy s2 does not have this problem at all.
Even after a factory reset the problem persists even when I haven't even installed any of my own apps yet! Could this be a hardware issue? It's running on 4.0.4. I've also had FC's. Tried switching to a costum rom (Rocket rom), but it has the exact same problem and even a slightly higher RAM usage.
I took it back to the store the other day, and the salesman pulled out their test phone (which had the exact software as mine) and it seemed to be having the same problems with the lagging and high RAM usage.
HELP!
http://m.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Ismo29 said:
Hello everybody,
I recently bought a galaxy note (this past saturday) and from day one, I've been having problems with the phone being too laggy. I've noticed that RAM usage never gets below 4-500 and when I open even one app (like facebook or the browser), it immediately spikes up and can get as high as 700+! Surely this is not normal! My Galaxy s2 does not have this problem at all.
Even after a factory reset the problem persists even when I haven't even installed any of my own apps yet! Could this be a hardware issue? It's running on 4.0.4. I've also had FC's. Tried switching to a costum rom (Rocket rom), but it has the exact same problem and even a slightly higher RAM usage.
I took it back to the store the other day, and the salesman pulled out their test phone (which had the exact software as mine) and it seemed to be having the same problems with the lagging and high RAM usage.
HELP!
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All I can tell you is that with a CLEAN install, I'm usually sitting around 600 megs used. And then after all my apps (including the ones that are scheduled and such) I sit around the same as you, 700 or more megs used. I feel your pain with the RAM issue. It seems that it's because of all the TW drivers and software. I am really glad that they decided to up the memory in the SG Note 2 to 2GB. I really hope that things do get smoother though with JB at least. But you're not alone.
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All I can tell you is that with a CLEAN install, I'm usually sitting around 600 megs used. And then after all my apps (including the ones that are scheduled and such) I sit around the same as you, 700 or more megs used. I feel your pain with the RAM issue. It seems that it's because of all the TW drivers and software. I am really glad that they decided to up the memory in the SG Note 2 to 2GB. I really hope that things do get smoother though with JB at least. But you're not alone.
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Flash gb rom in pc odin and while in gb rom go to CWMR and do the 3 wipes then flash ics rom in pc odin.
Try removing those unnecessary cluttered stock apps that you don't need (thru Titanium Backup), make sure you wipe cache partition & dalvik cache (only) in cwmr.
Reboot recovery and reboot system.. Check again if your still getting the same high Ram usage.
Uninstall google maps & facebook
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for the sake of future generations, I'd like to reiterate two most important points from the article quoted by AA1973:
- Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
- Task killers are bad.
OP.
It is a legitimate issue if you complain about lag and freezes, but apparently you mentioned only perceived high ram usage.
Read the post above mine.
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Try.n app named ''Smart RAM Booster''
Will work like magic...
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It is not abt the RAM that u need to worry.
But how good a ROM an kernel manage the RAM for highest performance and good battery life.
That's what all RAM about... Performance!
Same like computer.
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for the sake of future generations, I'd like to reiterate two most important points from the article quoted by AA1973:
- Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
- Task killers are bad.
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AMEN!!
I just want my Note to take all my RAM.
Check the developer option under settings tab
No further posts on this I guess but here's what I have observed:
1. Go to settings
2. Go to developer options ( 2nd last option)
3. Select "Background process limit". You will have plenty of options including "No background process".
4. Stop all unwanted running apps in the "applications" -> "running" tab
5. Press the home key for few seconds, you will see some apps shortcut displayed. Swipe it left or right to clear it.
The RAM should stay within limits for a long time. After a reboot the above process might have to be repeated.
My Gtn 7000 details:
Android version 4.04
Baseband ver n7000ddlr1
Kernel ver
3.0.15- 1163394
[email protected] #3
Build no. IMM76D.DDLRB
senseVsSTyle said:
No further posts on this I guess but here's what I have observed:
1. Go to settings
2. Go to developer options ( 2nd last option)
3. Select "Background process limit". You will have plenty of options including "No background process".
4. Stop all unwanted running apps in the "applications" -> "running" tab
5. Press the home key for few seconds, you will see some apps shortcut displayed. Swipe it left or right to clear it.
The RAM should stay within limits for a long time. After a reboot the above process might have to be repeated.
My Gtn 7000 details:
Android version 4.04
Baseband ver n7000ddlr1
Kernel ver
3.0.15- 1163394
[email protected] #3
Build no. IMM76D.DDLRB
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using dev options and limiting the process causes random refreshing of homescreen and apps not to work properly.
using multiwindow is also very difficult.
apps closes away some time while navigating away..
Using the App section of Dev options is not a very good idea on a daily run.
I've been suffering this alot with JB/ICS rom, my favorite thing to do after flashing a new ROM is to remove all the bloat wares, but that doesn't help with the high RAM usage (always uses up to 700MB+). So, I decided to flash back to JB a few days ago, and guess what, I open 7-8 apps at the same time with RAM usage is about 500-650MB.
As I read here and there, GPU rendering consumes more RAM, so...I think you get the idea
Source: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/hardware-accel.html
And with JB, memory leak is even worse.
Unfortunately ram managers do nothing in increasing performance or battery life its a complete myth. Ram itself is only accessed when needed for backup or temporary storage of small files. The ram management on Android will utilise as much as it can with usual apps used and system management. It has no effect on battery or performance UNTIL you have a leak on the rom which does happen.
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Visit This site on your Note to increase RAM
SpyderTracks said:
Unfortunately ram managers do nothing in increasing performance or battery life its a complete myth. Ram itself is only accessed when needed for backup or temporary storage of small files. The ram management on Android will utilise as much as it can with usual apps used and system management. It has no effect on battery or performance UNTIL you have a leak on the rom which does happen.
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I've always believed that free RAM is wasted RAM! Don't care too much about RAM consumption! Android is good enough to deal with RAM without task managers (actually they're more harmful than helpful!)
Inviato dal mio panetto di burro powered by JellyBAM 1.2.0 + SlimBean kernel
azzledazzle said:
Visit This site on your Note to increase RAM
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Oh yeah! Is there an OTG cable to connect a DDR ram on note? :banghead:
nokiamodeln91 said:
Oh yeah! Is there an OTG cable to connect a DDR ram on note? :banghead:
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Im in my laboratory currently developing it
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Im in my laboratory currently developing it
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On You Go good sir, if you manage it can I get a freebie? Sure you could email it to me?
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After 8 months google finally fix the memory leak in android lollipop. Thanks :crying::crying: Am I dreaming?
Having the memory load increasing is not, in itself, a memory leak.
The Nexus 5 comes with 2 Gb of RAM, the goal is not to have memory load below 300 mb in every case (or you can buy a 512 mb-RAM smartphone)
The leak is a bug in memory management which increase memory load without any limit, thus slowing the device and crashing it. I did not experience this under 5.1 with Franco and stock kernel.
I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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This is kind of interesting. I wonder if the system management is to blame or apps themselves.
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I found a solution. If you change the kernel (for example Franco kernel) all problems are solved.
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did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
Issue stared and '+1 confirmed'.
Can someone mark the bug as critical?
jineshpatel30 said:
did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
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The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
i don t know if is due to the memory leak but after 3 days (fresh factory image flash) i m facing the annoying launcher redraw and high system memory usage:780 mb with 1,2 gb of peak
jlmcr87 said:
The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
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I dont want to create a seperate thread so I am asking here. Got Nexus 5 a few days ago, started reading about 5.1 update and memory leak issue. Tried to update to 5.1 but gave up(usb driver issue). Today I noticed that ram usage for apps increases and does not drop down after shutting down apps (games mainly). System ram is constantly about 300-400 but app ram got from 300 to over 600 in about 6 hours. Is this also a memory leak or maybe apps just do not completely shut down?
Memory going up does not mean there is a memory leak, it means memory no longer in use has not yet been garbage collected which is fine.
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Isnt suppost Linux do same memory management with 2GB or 3GB of Ram?
Wich leads me to if KK,JB and ICS didnt had this memory leak problem how come this happens in LP?
That is one thing that I dont understand....
surrealjam said:
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
Simonna said:
Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
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exactly ! but ppl need to understand that what they need with phone.
i don't see any app that need more than 2GBs for ram on market plus multitasking is exceptional in N5 for me bcz i don't use tons of chatting apps who always runs and eats all resources of phone , i use heavy games and N5 still works great with highest graphics...and i bet none of Samsung or any other premium devices works with them as impressive as this 1.5yr old device still do ! so for me N5 is still more than enough
phone shouldn't be excessive better in specs than what you wants from phone. Bcz it does't make any sanse unless one have lots of money and he/she only want to waste it one way or another
I thought this was fixed at first. I picked up my phone this morning and went to check news and the whole thing was froze for like 5 seconds then starting working, but stuttering. Do I checked apps and low and behold I had about ten apps restarting, just like in the previous lollipop. Except this time I only see half my apps restarting (so far) instead of nearly all of them.
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My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
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sounds like almost my case
I've read several android blogs they claim damaging, HTC, ect have fixed the memory leak in their roms (although I heard people claim this in cm12 also). Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm this is true?
I tried loading and swiping CoC 5 times and my free Ram still remains at 1200.
My battery life has definitely gotten significantly worse after 5.1. Drained over 20% in just an hour with very light usage.
Can anyone link me to a custom rom that gets rid of the memory leak present in Note 4 on 5.0.1. It's crazy that Samsung would even release 5.0.1 they should have skipped straight to 5.1. My ram usage will not go below 2.1GB. I have tried Clean Master, Battery Doctor, Rebooting and Force Kill.
It has to be a custom rom with Touchwiz not Cyanogenmod because I love the Note 4 features
there isnt any memory leak on any samsung lollipop only s6 has it.
I've never seen my Note 4 even get to 2GB in use, ever. What are you running to get it so high?
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I've never seen my Note 4 even get to 2GB in use, ever. What are you running to get it so high?
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He's not the only one. Ive frozen most of the services and apps and the memory use is over 2gb 99%+ of the time
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Can anyone link me to a custom rom that gets rid of the memory leak present in Note 4 on 5.0.1. It's crazy that Samsung would even release 5.0.1 they should have skipped straight to 5.1. My ram usage will not go below 2.1GB. I have tried Clean Master, Battery Doctor, Rebooting and Force Kill.
It has to be a custom rom with Touchwiz not Cyanogenmod because I love the Note 4 features
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My only question is: Have you seen any drawbacks in usage or it is just the effect that you are looking at the available ram and you see it over 2GB and assume it is wrong? Because let me say this: Note 4 and 5.0.1 does not have memory leak. Did you experience apps crashing on a regular basis?The "memory leak" basically stops RAM from clearing out automatically and disallowing other underlying processes to make use of the space. This in turn results in the apps getting killed or crashing automatically. I assume not...apps crashing constantly is the first sign of a memory leak. The only memory leaks reported were on Nexus devices and Google patched them. So basically...free ram is wasted ram on an Android platform. And if this high usage that you see (over 2gb) does not cause apps crashing and phone slower you have nothing to worry about it's just your OS working as it should Cheers!
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He's not the only one. Ive frozen most of the services and apps and the memory use is over 2gb 99%+ of the time
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Where are you seeing that figure? If it's in the touchwiz memory manager than that's a misleading figure since it count cached applications in it's figure which isn't really used memory. You need to check the real Android memory stats to see the real usage.
Im using task manger. this is with all apps killed.
K, thank you for the quick replies. It says a lot in Clean Master 85% of available memory is being used and wanting me to keep having to boost the phone. Have you guys notice any poor battery life with Bluetooth on running lollipop? Can't seem to get half a day usage even with the screen off. It also says in Task Manager 2GB+ is being used. I keep clearing it, but it does not go down. Could it be because gear manager won't close, as it will disconnect my Gear S
No problem here
I hope
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K, thank you for the quick replies. It says a lot in Clean Master 85% of available memory is being used and wanting me to keep having to boost the phone. Have you guys notice any poor battery life with Bluetooth on running lollipop? Can't seem to get half a day usage even with the screen off. It also says in Task Manager 2GB+ is being used. I keep clearing it, but it does not go down. Could it be because gear manager won't close, as it will disconnect my Gear S
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You have only one problem to resolve. Deinstall Clean Master, don't believe in phone "boost" and some unpossible clean effect.
If you haven't problems with applications crash or freeze your "problem" doesn't exist.
Bluetooth has significant influence on battery life. Not services, but bluetooth radio itself.
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Stop killing apps with ram booster. It will make your phone slower in reopening apps and consume more battery. Search for some articles on Google to find out why the ram cleaners or launchers with ram cleanear included are so bad for your phone. Android has a very good ram management and you don't need other programs. If you want to see less consumption on your ram disable or uninstall the apps you don't use. Try to open and close a simple task like phone book and after try the same thing after you killed the process with a ram cleaner. You will see that it takes a long time to re-open, and also your procesor will work harder to open the app.
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I'm still going over some logcats but I'm positive the way 5.0 handles RAM is a problem. Haven't been able to pinpoint the issue yet but 5.0 is definitely allocating memory differently than 4.4 and not necessarily in the best way.
Why am I doing any of this? Because fun of course, but also because I noticed home screen redraws were becoming more frequent, and apps were refreshing when a device that has 3gb of RAM shouldn't experience too often. When compared to my Note 3 on 4.4, side by side, running some taxing apps, I've seen a substantial difference.
K thank you. Will uninstall Clean Master and see if my performance improves. Report back. Anyone found a way to open camera when rooted without unlocking phone with fingerprint by double tapping home button. Sorry about posting it in this fourms, just wondering. Hope the Zerolemon battery case improves my battery life, getting it soon. Heard it's not very accurate being that it has 3 batteries and the phone doesn't always get the right reading
I have the same thing here even i noticed apps need to refresh when multitasking frequently
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i think there are a few leaks in 5.0.1, so far we have 1 leak fixed in the kernel and 1 in the rom (thanks to robocik) but ram usage remains high.
not that that is a bad thing...apps only open faster, so that's good, but especially the touchwiz redraws are insane after a while.
every time you press the home button or the greenify button, it redraws the launcher completely.
so even after 2 fixes it's still present
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i think there are a few leaks in 5.0.1, so far we have 1 leak fixed in the kernel and 1 in the rom (thanks to robocik) but ram usage remains high.
not that that is a bad thing...apps only open faster, so that's good, but especially the touchwiz redraws are insane after a while.
every time you press the home button or the greenify button, it redraws the launcher completely.
so even after 2 fixes it's still present
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im using totaly stock and my ram usage is 1.83 gb constantly with tw launcher and nova makes it 1.6 or something. never saw a single launcher redraw on note 4 and ram usage was totaly same for me on kitkat too. im having serious ram issues on s6 but didnt see any problem with note 4 lollipop
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im using totaly stock and my ram usage is 1.83 gb constantly with tw launcher and nova makes it 1.6 or something. never saw a single launcher redraw on note 4 and ram usage was totaly same for me on kitkat too. im having serious ram issues on s6 but didnt see any problem with note 4 lollipop
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odd, if i don't use greenify and just stock touchwiz i have an average of 2.3Gb of ram in use
and it redraws the launcher on every press on the home button
thankfully the n4 doesn't have it as bad as the s6, but it could be a lot better
Never had a launcher redraw using Nova and Servicely to kill apps on screen off. I'm running at around 2.2GB of ram usage always.
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odd, if i don't use greenify and just stock touchwiz i have an average of 2.3Gb of ram in use
and it redraws the launcher on every press on the home button
thankfully the n4 doesn't have it as bad as the s6, but it could be a lot better
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dunno generally i dont even close any app and i dont have any problem with ram or multitasking.
Seems like the majority of users in this fourms use Nova Launcher. Does it decrease the ram usage. At the moment I am running Flow Home, I think it redraws everytime the home button is pressed.
My UI freezes for 5 - 15 seconds, particularly when the phone regains network connectivity (reconnecting wifi or mobile network going from 0 to 1 bars). It's much improved after removing FB and Insta but. My launcher is even getting closed when the phone frequently, although the phone has ~500MB free RAM.
I dropped this poor phone one too many times, so before I replace it with another z3 compact, I'm wondering if everyone else on Marshmallow is seeing poor responsiveness as well.
I did have slow downs before but not like that,I have switched to Lineage and it works very well so I don't have any plans going back to stock Marshmallow.
yeah same here, i advice you to switch to lineage, you will feel like butter on the screen.
I don't have any lags at all, no launcher refreshes or whatever on stock MM. ( I don't use the horrible Facebook application)
Until 3 weeks ago, I used to have no lags at all on my stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 Z3C. I had uptime of 50 days and more and it didn't lag. Now, it happened twice in a row that my System RAM usage grew in last 5 days to 1,3 GB! It seems like a memory leak in kernel space. It's hard to pinpoint particular process. The phone is slow, multitasking doesn't work (reloads every app), my stock launcher redraws and the phone is unable to make/receive GSM calls - probably a symptom of low on memory state. I wonder, if it's caused by bluetooth driver, because I've transfered 100MB file on both occasions. I need more time to analyze this, this time I won't turn bluetooth on, so I can see if it is the cause.
Edit: I'm confident the cause is not bluetooth. Symptoms now appear after just 65 hours of uptime - . Now I tried to get rid of ES File Explorer, let's see what this bloatware did to system performace.
Edit 2: It seems the problem is gone after uninstalling ES File Explorer. Before uninstalling it had data storage set to external SD card. I replaced this piece of bloatware by open-source explorer called Amaze.
Thanks all. I was avoiding Lineage because I wanted the stock camera / DRM and their description makes it sound very unstable... "random reboots while charging", etc. I'll try it out anyway and add the stock camera back in if it runs well.
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Until 3 weeks ago...
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Do share the source of the issue if you find it. I'm still seeing UI lockups when the phone loses internet connectivity.
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Thanks all. I was avoiding Lineage because I wanted the stock camera / DRM and their description makes it sound very unstable... "random reboots while charging", etc. I'll try it out anyway and add the stock camera back in if it runs well.
Do share the source of the issue if you find it. I'm still seeing UI lockups when the phone loses internet connectivity.
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camera works like stock in lineage, don't worry about that. you can face with other small bugs but still worth to use, it is better than stock in most cases.
having the same issue since a few weeks.
device gets VERY slow (i mean like 10 seconds to open the phone dialer or whats app)
Even did a factory reset, which only helped for ~2 days ...
same problem with my girlfriends Z3C.
Something is very wrong here ...
xnavra50 said:
Until 3 weeks ago, I used to have no lags at all on my stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 Z3C. I had uptime of 50 days and more and it didn't lag. Now, it happened twice in a row that my System RAM usage grew in last 5 days to 1,3 GB! It seems like a memory leak in kernel space. It's hard to pinpoint particular process. The phone is slow, multitasking doesn't work (reloads every app), my stock launcher redraws and the phone is unable to make/receive GSM calls - probably a symptom of low on memory state. I wonder, if it's caused by bluetooth driver, because I've transfered 100MB file on both occasions. I need more time to analyze this, this time I won't turn bluetooth on, so I can see if it is the cause.
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Icefeldt said:
having the same issue since a few weeks.
device gets VERY slow (i mean like 10 seconds to open the phone dialer or whats app)
Even did a factory reset, which only helped for ~2 days ...
same problem with my girlfriends Z3C.
Something is very wrong here ...
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there must be a reason that it is slow as hell in stock while it works with jet speed in lineage. something related to sony software, hardware is okay.
Wipe cache (Power and vol+ until 3 Vibrations) helped a little, but i don't put too much hope in it.
It's my gf's Phone so i kind of hesitate to install some unstable beta on it. Or is there any real stable release out there?
Sony haven't pushed out any updates for over a year, so not sure how you can blame it on MM build.
It'll be an app.
My money's on Facebook or Messanger.
No lags or slowdowns on my phone, had the same build on it for a year now.
Autoupdates turned OFF.
No Facebook/Messanger.
Didgesteve said:
Sony haven't pushed out any updates for over a year, so not sure how you can blame it on MM build.
It'll be an app.
My money's on Facebook or Messanger.
No lags or slowdowns on my phone, had the same build on it for a year now.
Autoupdates turned OFF.
No Facebook/Messanger.
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Guess you're right, but i can't really accept a SD801 Phone being unable to run basic apps like FB
papa_Lutz said:
Guess you're right, but i can't really accept a SD801 Phone being unable to run basic apps like FB
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Last year Facbook deliberatly broke their app, made it run slow and heat your phone up, as an experiment, to see what people would do. They honestly don't give a sh*t about what you think of thier app.
Uninstall it and use your browser, see if it makes a difference.
Try SD Maid from the playstore, that does some good basic houskeeping
Didgesteve said:
My money's on Facebook or Messanger.
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Nope.
I do not have a Facebook account.
Therefore I do not have facebook or messenger installed.
But I do have these slowdowns :-/
I read in an italian forum that it's the Google app fault, you should unistall updates and disable automatic updates until it's fixed.
unpair said:
I read in an italian forum that it's the Google app fault, you should unistall updates and disable automatic updates until it's fixed.
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Interesting.
You got a link to that thread/post?
Icefeldt said:
Interesting.
You got a link to that thread/post?
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here and previous page
It seems the problem is gone after uninstalling ES File Explorer. Before uninstalling it had data storage set to external SD card. I replaced this piece of bloatware by open-source explorer called Amaze.
Now I have an uptime of 125 hours and counting, my System RAM usage is 0.90 GB and it isn't rising to 1.3 GB as it did before. So the phone is really smooth again. When I was checking my LogCat using DDMS, there seemed to be recurring message of ES File Explorer (estrong) leaking something, I don't remember if it was a window or an activity. What a piece of chinese malware it became. Interestingly, ES File Explorer's memory footprint was low (3 processes, 10MB total user space memory), even when leaking memory and this made debugging harder. Although I killed it, when the phone had problem (1.3 GB system memory), only a reboot worked. It totally seems like a memory leak to me.
GL debugging yours.
it works good with me ..
try to make clean install
I'm not going back to this crappy app. Once, it used to be outstanding, but they probably sold the app to another company in China and from there it went downhill. A lot of popups and ads for things I don't need. Their only purpose is to make your phone slower (bloatware) and optionally, to get money from you. I like simple, minimalistic apps, which do things they are designed for and do it right. Just this Linux approach and also "less is sometimes more".
It's confirmed that ES File Explorer makes network connections to China in background, no thanks!