I have the chance to replace my Honor 7 with a Mate S for only a few bucks. Should I?
I'm very happy with my Honor 7. The only difference afaik is the 5.5" AMOLED screen vs Honor's 5.2" IPS.
Does the Mate S have Android 6 in Europe?
i'd personally hold out and get a P9. The Mate S doesn't have a final version of Marshmallow yet.
We're all on beta software who is on mm. Imo if you can get a p9+, sounds like a beast version of mate S in all regards.
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I replaced my Honor 7 with a Mate S because i received it for 300€ when it was released.
i´m thinking about using the Honor 7 again and sell the Mate S since the battery got smaller and sometimes drains to fast. I also miss the IR funktions. The only good thing about the Phone is the AMOLED screen but i don´t think it´s worth it.
just keep your Honor 7 and wait a bit longer or buy a P9.
Tuerkay said:
I replaced my Honor 7 with a Mate S because i received it for 300€ when it was released.
i´m thinking about using the Honor 7 again and sell the Mate S since the battery got smaller and sometimes drains to fast. I also miss the IR funktions. The only good thing about the Phone is the AMOLED screen but i don´t think it´s worth it.
just keep your Honor 7 and wait a bit longer or buy a P9.
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I can do the upgrade almost for free (20€). Is it not worth it?
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I can do the upgrade almost for free (20€). Is it not worth it?
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If you can live without the IR funktion and the less durable battery. go for it.
I paid £399 for my mate S aboit 4 months ago and I've been looking at the Honor 7 and wished I had brought that instead at only £224...almost half the price with almost identical specs... Maybe even some extra features..
Stick with the Honor 7...better battery life and higher pixel density plus IR blaster and shortcut button
Hello.. pixel in my country costs 1200$+- !!
While - HTC 10, G5, S7 and 3t are 550$+-
Now I don't think I want S7 because no USB-C and because I had the 3t I switched all my chargers to USB-C
The G5 brand is LG and they have many problems in all their phones (Bootlops and battery become bad after year of use and such) so I don't think I want it either...
The 3t has almost no insurance in my country because it's not a "known" company so support will be difficult to get.. (same goes for xiaomi and such)
And HTC.................... The "10" is all I'm left with and I'm really not sure if I want it... But it's all I consider now.. what do you think??
I want a
9+/10 camera
8+/10 battery
7.5+/10 display
7+/10 performance
And 6+/10 build quality
What phone do you think will suit me the most?
HTC Ultra??? I'm sorry you got a defective device man! That's what happened to me with the ZTE AXON 7 I returned it and blamed the company. Shouldn't do that
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Id just say stick with the 3t. The latest 4.1 update is nice, everything is faster and better feeling. Run with FreedomOS. Nice simple debloater installer. No real reason not to use a OnePlus device in 2017. Its so affordable and good it just feels like a nice phone that will last a long while.
If you are yearning for an expensive phone then go for the Huawei Mate 9. Its got machine learning built in so it will achieve all your points once it figures you out.
If you really need a new phone instead of the 3t, I would recommend the Honor 8, sure the Honor 8 isn't as great as the 3t, but in many places you can find it even cheaper than the 3t and it's almost as fast as the 3t!
Hello Everybody
I have LG G6 currently but i am still looking to jumpship to Honor 9 Lite for Huawei's great software support and 9 Lite price.
LG is hardly supporting G6 these days and i am still waiting for the Oreo update, but i hope i can get it within few weeks.
I started this thread to better understand Honor 9 Lite before plunging in it.
How many major Android updates it can get ?
Does EMUI 8.0 offers all Oreo features ?
Doesn't have face unlock and protected notifications ?
I cannot understand why Huawei even released the Honor 9 Lite...
Go and buy the Honor 7X which is equivalent to the 9 Lite only in ways even better. Bigger screen and larger battery for the same price.
Why would anyone even consider buying the Honor 9 Lite over the 7X??
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I cannot understand why Huawei even released the Honor 9 Lite...
Go and buy the Honor 7X which is equivalent to the 9 Lite only in ways even better. Bigger screen and larger battery for the same price.
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Except it costs 50€ more...
herlgl said:
Except it costs 50€ more...
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Well I paid for my Honor 7X €216 inclusive of delivery, making it just €16 more. :laugh:
For a larger screen and bigger battery I think that's more bang for your buck.
Seriously, they are both almost identical and the release of the new Honor 9 is a waste...
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I cannot understand why Huawei even released the Honor 9 Lite...
Go and buy the Honor 7X which is equivalent to the 9 Lite only in ways even better. Bigger screen and larger battery for the same price.
Why would anyone even consider buying the Honor 9 Lite over the 7X??
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because it's smaller and cheaper? I don't understand why would anyone buy 7X over 9, in Europe difference between them it's like 20-30EUR, only benefit of 7X it's nicer design with smaller bezels
4GB version has got and NFC which defers it from 7X.
Well... I got 3GB/32GB version ( LLD-AL10).
I do own an Huawei 9 lite so Honor 9 lite was a Birthday present which I bought for myself.
Compares to H9lite it has got a bigger screen in almost the same body, Apptwin and VoLTE.
The main reason to buy was an astonishing blue/mirror design. Phone looks great.
Until You touch it ... mirror-glass back is 'collecting' fingerprints better than New York police.
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I cannot understand why Huawei even released the Honor 9 Lite...
Go and buy the Honor 7X which is equivalent to the 9 Lite only in ways even better. Bigger screen and larger battery for the same price.
Why would anyone even consider buying the Honor 9 Lite over the 7X??
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The Honor 9 Lite ships with Oreo, it has NFC to support digital payments, it has quad lens cameras, 2 in front and back and supports USB on the go. I can't tell from any of the phone spec sites whether it supports both 2.4 and 5 GHz WiFi.
up Only 2.4 GHz
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The Honor 9 Lite ships with Oreo, it has NFC to support digital payments, it has quad lens cameras, 2 in front and back and supports USB on the go. I can't tell from any of the phone spec sites whether it supports both 2.4 and 5 GHz WiFi.
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These are my exact reasons for buying the 9 Lite, 4 things that the 7X really should have for the extra price. I was at the launch for the 7X and hands on the 9 Lite isn't that much different.
Hey all! I am going to sign a new contract with my carrier and I consider to buy a new phone. I am currently using the Huawei P9. The Phone is still good but i think it will hold up good one more year maximum and then it most likely become pretty bad but I can sign a new contract with carrier only once every 2 years so now its my chance to get a new phone at kind of a good price. So I am wondering between the Nokia 7 Plus and the Honor 10. I need a bigger screen and I want it to be good cuz i consume a lot of media (youtube, movies) on the phone and I also text a lot. The camera has never been a priority for me but after I got the P9 I make more shots than before just cuz the camera is super nice and the Leica branded filters really makes the pictures look great. I dont know how is the Nokia 7 Plus camera. From the reviews I understand that it is not bad but for sure Honors camera is better. I like Honor 10 design more even that reviewers says that the Nokia looks a lot better on person but I am 100% sure that the build quality of the Nokia is far superior than Honors. I really like that the Nokia is AndroidOne device but still official support is kinda the same as others (2 years with 3 years security patches) but it will got them faster for sure. Battery life is mistery for me for both phones. I dont like the notch on Honor 10, I dont hate it, but definitely dont like it too. Overall from the reviews on YouTube that I have watched I prefer Nokia displey - its bigger, no notch and I think it have a little bit better colors. So my question is what will you guys reccomend to me ? I want to ask peoples that are using the phone now. I want to ask also how is the software experience and is pure android really better than the skins. Also want to ask is there any glitches and bugs that are more common among users cuz in some of the reviews they say the software was not perfect for sure but it was very early software and after the number of updates that you received how is the software experience and bugs and glitches ? Nokia 7 Plus is also e bit cheaper than Honor 10. Tell me also what was a good surprise and what was not using the phone for the period. I hope you can give me some opinions on the dilemma and which phone worth the price. Sorry for my bad English and Thanks in advance!
Hey, i was on the same boat last week. p9 lite and went to a nokia 7 plus very nice phone don't go for a huawei phone their updates are limited.. while nokia provides you 2 years of update and 3 years of security updates.
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Hey, i was on the same boat last week. p9 lite and went to a nokia 7 plus very nice phone don't go for a huawei phone their updates are limited.. while nokia provides you 2 years of update and 3 years of security updates.
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Yes, that is one of the main reasons I consider the Nokia. But I have a P9 which was a flagship 2 years ago and now I can only afford a premium mid-range phone since Huawei phones gone up in price too. The Honor on the other hand has the flagship Kirin 970 CPU but has a skin which I am not sure I like. So the question is Honor 10 for the design, specs and cameras or Nokia 7 Plus for the software experience, display and build quality ?
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Yes, that is one of the main reasons I consider the Nokia. But I have a P9 which was a flagship 2 years ago and now I can only afford a premium mid-range phone since Huawei phones gone up in price too. The Honor on the other hand has the flagship Kirin 970 CPU but has a skin which I am not sure I like. So the question is Honor 10 for the design, specs and cameras or Nokia 7 Plus for the software experience, display and build quality ?
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Do not mind about kirin 970.. it sucks ass.... camera on the nokia is amazing also the design sits so nice in your hand...battery ? i won't even comment on it 3a charge, i do charge from 70% > 100 in about 15mins
Deff Nokia 7 plus I had a honor 10 camera is lame
And now that they have stopped you unlocking bootloader the development for honor phones will be non existent now , no brainer better phone better up dates and android pie straight off [emoji16]
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Honor play pretty much same as honor 10 same 970 Kirin 4GB ram bigger battery for £100 less but don't suppose camera up to much too
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After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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If you are in the states don't buy the c567 model go for the international one. IS models are not receiving updates as frequently as European model
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The Restless Soul said:
After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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The ROMS for the Mate 10 pro aren't perfect. If you want to run AOSP or something closer to it like near stock android, the one plus 5T is the stable option. If you are okay with the EMUI then the Mate 10 pro has better hardware IMO. If you like to tinker with less than perfect ROMS, then I'd go with the Mate 10 Pro but I'm sure the one plus 5T has more ROM development.
That's my two cents.
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Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
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Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
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If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
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hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
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Unlock. Downgrade is free IF possible. For example:
On BLA-L29C432B142 you can use DC. On B145 it doesn't work but can be downgraded using service firmware. B146 or higher can not be downgraded past B146. Build is not the same on every cust, so if you are on C636 the build where DC works is different. But generally it's May patch firmware.
Paid expensive unlock is done by FH and ministryofsolutions. If you have rebranded using FH before you can not use their service (FH Rebrand changes your imei in fastboot).
ante0 said:
If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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My phone has 3 issues with EMUI 5 updates (when it launched for the first time). I made a post about it on my account. I just want a long run phone. Do you think this is worth the money or 5T is better?
Well? Should i waste my time with Huawei again or move on with Oneplus/ google pixel 1?
Actually the Mate 10 pro is an excellent device.. But considering the possibilities of an one plus 5 or 6, I'd not go with Huawei anymore.
Same. Mate 10 pro has so many great features but it is not a long run device. I can see myself changing it in 2 years after Huawei will kill my phone like their attempt with my P9 lite. Oneplus 5T is a great deal for me but the camera is not as impressive like on Mate 10 pro and only has 64gb. The fast charging is pretty neat on 5T, but the long lasting battery on Mate 10 pro is very nice for me too.
Idk which to pick. I can go for 5T for the long run (which may keep me more than 4 years due to development), but we will see what will happen during christmas. Either way, i have the google pixel pinned on my shopping list. If Oneplus 5T 128gb gets cheaper, then i will go for 5T.
Also Mate 10 pro doesn't have the bootloader unlocked, thus the phone aging from outdated software.
Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
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Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
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Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
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Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
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I could had gone for oneplus 5T but i don't want to go change my rom just when i purchase it. Huawei killed my nerves with the warranty. So you got your mate 10 pro too?
I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
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I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
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The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy. Again, i can buy it but i don't want to change the software just when it was fresh bought.
Mate 10 pro has many features and great design. Also the pc mode is very very cool and it does not need a dock. Also has always on display, which Oneplus 5T has only by rooting it (unless Oneplus implements it). But, as we know, Huawei has terrible software support and warranty as well (warranty being my case).
In my opinion, i think Mate 10 pro is a better value for the simple fact that has water resistance, pixel-like camera, 4k battery and other hidden features, but i have to send my cousin to buy it so HUAWEI won't add anything sketchy in it :laugh::laugh::laugh:.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
I want to hear your opinions about these 2 devices. I want to buy a phone for the long run. This is my opinion. Sorry that the post feels weird, but i am always skeptical of buying new phones, especially "flagships"
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The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
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I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
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I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
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Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
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Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
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I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
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I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
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So what should i buy between those 2 devices?