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Has anyone tried the HTC Desire battery fix and confirms it works on the SGS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Some people have implied it works but I'd like to know what you think?
Yesterday i was make all from this HTC Desire thread give, except wipe battery stats because i not found this thing in clockwork recovery menu, and i can say , it work for our device too. My Galaxy S battery last pretty better-smoother:
After all, i powered on my device in midnight 00:00, morning about 8:00 was battery 100% too. Standby without APN connection, recieved one SMS only.About 10:30 was 99% have one short about minute,recieved call. On 12:00 make APN conection (2G) and about 20 min was on the internet, some news page, company pages, etc., and battery dropped to 97%, about 14:00 some calls 3-4 min, dropped to 95%. On 15:00 was on the APN about half hour,battery go on 93%. To now on 19:00 hour battery is on 92%...I think this is great thing, beause before my galaxy was from 100% to empty about one and half day....
Next thing i use only when i need it, usualy stay:
1.WiFi off
2.APN only when need Internet(2G), rest is off
3.Bluetooth off
4. Animation off (in Settings)
5.Autorotate off
6.GPS off
7.Network location off
8.Autosync off
Best regards
PS (Sorry if my english is bad)
Just given this a try...will report back in a few days.
I tried it... i didnt notice a SIGNIFICANT change... although i did switch from ryan's lagfix to the voodoo one... so that maybe have had an effect. Overall it feels like the battery life is about the same...
Also no change for me, after 8 hours of use with wifi or 3g on whole time, dropped 35%.
I forgett say, i have stock I9000XXJF3 rooted firmware,newer reflashed any other firmware, none lagfix apk, or other etc. system things apk, expect task manager and startup manager... From 19:00 when a haved 92%, and now on 1:20 i have 89% with 15 minute calling, 4 SMS sended/recived, about half hour internet surfing on 2G, and 10 min play bubbles game. Tommorow i will tried GPS lasting and wifi. For me more than fantastic battery duration...I was Make exactly how read on HTC Desire thread, except wipe battery stats, but reboot i was make from recovery menu, not usualy with on/off button or some reboot apk, becaus, i think maybe battery stats itself refreshed-calibrated !?
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Well, I did this last night, and my phones battery status is now showing 98% after 11.5 hours.
To be fair, I was asleep for most of this time, and have only brought the phone out of standby a couple of times to check the time.
I also have APN/bluetooth/Wifi switched off, and i'm using only 2g networks.
Still, 2% in almost 12 hours isn't bad is it?
Nope....
I just tried it this morning. I still have the same battery consumption per hour with the same amount of using the phone. So I guess it's not working for me.
ibizaGTi said:
Well, I did this last night, and my phones battery status is now showing 98% after 11.5 hours.
To be fair, I was asleep for most of this time, and have only brought the phone out of standby a couple of times to check the time.
I also have APN/bluetooth/Wifi switched off, and i'm using only 2g networks.
Still, 2% in almost 12 hours isn't bad is it?
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I forgett say, i have stock I9000XXJF3 rooted firmware,newer reflashed any other firmware, none lagfix apk, or other etc. system things apk, expect task manager and startup manager... From 19:00 when a haved 92%, and now on 1:20 i have 89% with 15 minute calling, 4 SMS sended/recived, about half hour internet surfing on 2G, and 10 min play bubbles game. Tommorow i will tried GPS lasting and wifi. For me more than fantastic battery duration...I was Make exactly how read on HTC Desire thread, except wipe battery stats, but reboot i was make from recovery menu, not usualy with on/off button or some reboot apk, becaus, i think maybe battery stats itself refreshed-calibrated !?
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Wow, that's seriously amazing guys. No noticeable improvements here. Followed the procedure, it was 100% at 8am. It's 6pm now, and after around 25 texts, 75 minutes of 2g calls and 5 minutes of 2g browsing, I now have 27% battery left. Doesn't seem like anything has improved.
I'm on JM7 with voodoo, btw.
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have good succes with disabling power saving mode, so the brightness mode only is, as i set to be, my batterytime has improve significant.
911rsr said:
have good succes with disabling power saving mode, so the brightness mode only is, as i set to be, my batterytime has improve significant.
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Yeah, and power saving mode on the display is annoying anyways.
This method seems like voodoo (not the lagfix voodoo), but many people on many devices seem to swear by it.
If you're not happy with battery life, get spare parts off the market and look into what's eating up the battery life. Check your data-sucking widgets, wifi sleep policy, screen brightness settings, etc. Get rid of those apps that are mis-behaving and turn down the frequency on widget data.
Wiping batterystats.bin file after a full charge usually helps if you haven't tried that.
Also, if this is your first smartphone with a big bright display and a fast cpu, get used to the fact that the battery isn't going to last as long as your Razr did, not anywhere near as long.
Get a spare battery (the SGS battery is so thin it fits in my wallet without even noticing it's there, get a spare desk charger for your office and keep a charger in the car. Dock/charge the thing when you have the chance to keep the % up while you're away from the charger, and stop worrying over this.
With virtually every new "ROM" I follow on this device and the Nexus One, the first and biggest complaint is usually "battery life sucks" in the early release stage; then the complaints start disappearing as the battery stats get a chance to settle down.
Yes, I did tried that 'HTC Desire' Method.
On my previous firmware JM5,
80% 18hrs
74% 1 Day 1 hrs 47min
And lasted until the 3rd day before I had to plug in the charger. All this with Wifi off and idling most of the time.
For JPC,
The battery level was awful until I applied the wifi fix for JPc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774507&page=5
Currently, my galaxy s is on 28% approaching 3 days (72 hours). So i guess in my case the battery level did improved. All this with playing games, wifi on (off when the screen is off) and movies. So the usage definitely increased, yet the battery still stands strong
Oh and another thing, the brightness level on JM5 was 30 (android lowest). I discovered Dimmer after that, which promptly reduced the brightess to 10 for JPC. That might explain the better battery part a bit
erm why does disabling power saving mode increase the battery life? i thought it supposes to save the power instead? My brightness is already set to the lowest means i dont need to enable power saving mode? wads the difference of enabling and dis-enabling.
Same question. Then why it's called Power Saving mode?
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Same question. Then why it's called Power Saving mode?
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During this mode, the screen's brightness will adjust to the color/intensity of the image projected on your screen. If the image is bright, the brightness will go down in order to safe battery life.
If the image is dark (like most of the SGS's UI) it will increase the brightness because dark colors don't drain as much of the battery.
This sounds pretty confusing, but when you think about it, it makes sense.
I disabled this mode, because i think i conflicts with the automatic brightness setting =D
QuickSettings did the trick for me, if i'm in a dark area i disable automatic brightness and go for the lowest setting (Still brighter than an Acer Liquid or HTC Desire if you ask me ! AMOLED IS GREAT !)
So basically it means that by disabling the power saving mode save the power more instead? As it does nt increase the brightness nor decrease automatically?
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I have tried this desire fix and it achieved no improvement at all.
I have heard that the best thing is to let battery drain then charge whilst phone is off.. but its too impractical to do this all the time..
I may be wrong but wasn't someone with good battery life going to share the batterystat file? was there someone mentioning a fix like this?
Also if you have 3 batteries how does that tie into the battery stats file.. after GPS fixing this is now seeming like a big problem, a few people i know and from an Australian forum have been disappointed with the battery life, and some people on here are getting 2-3 days
A guy from work tested it before taking it back and without sim, network, wifi etc got 23 hours in standby.
The website states something like 300 hours in standby? I think that is BS in fact on the samsung galaxy Australian site, they have replaced the battery standby to TBA...
Anyway after samsung took his device and 'tested it' they said the hardware was all okay, here is the new firmware.
As soon as I see him I will report what fw samsung gave him to 'fix' his battery life.
I call shannigans on samsung.... again!
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Wow, that's seriously amazing guys. No noticeable improvements here. Followed the procedure, it was 100% at 8am. It's 6pm now, and after around 25 texts, 75 minutes of 2g calls and 5 minutes of 2g browsing, I now have 27% battery left. Doesn't seem like anything has improved.
I'm on JM7 with voodoo, btw.
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A you sure is not in backgrond AutoSync, or GPS, or Network location is off. And very important make exatly procedure step by step from Desire thread...Im now after 38 hours (day and half) on 70% with my usual using (about hour 2G internet, 30 minute call, 4-5 SMS, and 10 min GPS with network location. BUT ALL MAKE OFF AFTER USING, when go on Standby)....Impresive realy?
I thinking make same procedure with my old HTC Touch Diamond 2...
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dan 6a said:
I have tried this desire fix and it achieved no improvement at all.
I have heard that the best thing is to let battery drain then charge whilst phone is off.. but its too impractical to do this all the time..
I may be wrong but wasn't someone with good battery life going to share the batterystat file? was there someone mentioning a fix like this?
Also if you have 3 batteries how does that tie into the battery stats file.. after GPS fixing this is now seeming like a big problem, a few people i know and from an Australian forum have been disappointed with the battery life, and some people on here are getting 2-3 days
A guy from work tested it before taking it back and without sim, network, wifi etc got 23 hours in standby.
The website states something like 300 hours in standby? I think that is BS in fact on the samsung galaxy Australian site, they have replaced the battery standby to TBA...
Anyway after samsung took his device and 'tested it' they said the hardware was all okay, here is the new firmware.
As soon as I see him I will report what fw samsung gave him to 'fix' his battery life.
I call shannigans on samsung.... again!
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Charge with phone off while you sleep shouldn't be too hard, unless you need the phone for incoming calls or alarms.
I don't believe batterystats.bin can be shared amongst phones, it's really just a log of your own phone's battery performance, if I understand it correctly.
Three batteries (like you and I have) will almost certainly confuse the battterystats file, unless all three batteries have exactly the same performance characteristics.
300 hours in standby...? Well, those kind of stats are always under "optimal" conditions. Optimal for any smartphone would be to have the phone in 2G only, wifi off, BT off, syncing off, all widgets off, location off, etc, etc, etc; basically just your phone in cell standby and not being used for anything else. My Nexus One, which gets little to no use now, used to last no more than 18 hours as my everyday phone, now with Froyo on it, a few weather widgets, wifi on, location on, etc, etc, it will last several days off the charger. I think we all just use our phones a LOT more than we realize, and that the display chews up more battery than we think.
Looking forward to what new firmware Sammy gives your friend.
This really helped me and I'm dead serious, after flashing a lot of roms and somtimes charging to only 50-70 percent and then disconnecting it seemed that my battery drained way to fast! I followed this:
1: Charge phone whilst on till LED is green.
2: Disconnect phone from charger, power it off.
3: Reconnect to charger with phone powered off and allow to charge till LED is green.
4: Disconnect the phone from charger, power it on. Once completely powered on, turn it off again and reconnect to charger until LED is green.
5: Reboot into recovery with clockworkmod and wipe battery stats.
And now after 5 hours with about 20 sms send/received I still have 93% battery, normally it was like 83 or lower by then, so I'm very happy! thanks for posting
Hello all.
I bought a Nexus One in at the beginning of the year. It's not rooted and I've had no problems from it till this month. I can not say the timing is exactly this, but it seems the battery issues started just after the FRG83D upgrade. I am accustomed to using my phone for most of the day before it needs to be charged. 12 hours or more with moderate use. Since around the FRG83D update my battery is about dead in around 4 or 5 hours. I haven't changed any settings or gotten any new apps or anything for quite some time.
For example, Friday night I charged my phone to 100% and then unplugged it (to plug in my girlfriends phone) and went to bed (about midnight). At 5:15am my alarm went off, i glanced at my phone and found the batter was at 10%!! the phone had been sitting there doing nothing all night with the screen off. I checked the battery use screen and it showed cell standby and AKMD taking up all the battery (55% and 35% respectively). I should mention that I have full signal where I am and have never had an issue. I cut off the screen rotate in the settings just in case that was part of it (AKMD being the gsensor i believe).
At next full charge that day i noticed the same problem, after being at 100% my battery was down to 10% after about 5 hours, almost the entire time I didn't use the phone. This time "display" was the largest percent by far (followed by cell standby), but clicking it showed only 15 minutes of use time for the display as I had purposefully not messed with the phone much.
Last night I had to be out and a bout so I decided to test things again. Charged full and cut airplane mode on. about 4 hours later my phone was down to 20ish percent, the only use of the phone being me looking at the charge level a couple times through the night.
I installed "spare parts" app and it shows my battery as being in good health and such but who knows how reliable that is.
Anyone else having similar issues? Any suggested remediation measures? I'm considering flashing the phone and reinstalling apps and such but would rather avoid that having never done that before and not having a desire to deal with setting everything back the way I have it.
Don't know if it matters but I run LauncherPRO and I do use the friends widget but it's never seemed to really cause battery issues before. I also run the news/weather widget, but again, no previous problems.
Any help would be great
Thanks!
In the spare parts app check partial wake usage. See if any apps are not letting your phone sleep.
nothing stands out other than UID 10073 which is handcent. currently my phone is charging but I'll pop it off the charger soon and watch the battery drop time again. I should note that inbetween all the tests so far i've rebooted the device so hanging apps of any kind should be killed off...
What ROM are you using?
Are you using Extended Controls? There is an issue with that and FRG83D. Uninstall it until the dev sorts it out.
yeah i am using extended controls. i'll take it off and see what happens.
Me too
I Have exactly the same issue, also have extended controls. Uninstalled and waiting to see if that works.
Cheers for the suggestion.
That did the trick! Loss like extended controls was the problem. A shame as i really like that app. Will hope they update and fix soon. Thanks!
Imbalance said:
That did the trick! Loss like extended controls was the problem. A shame as i really like that app. Will hope they update and fix soon. Thanks!
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Extended controls updated!
Yup, uninstalling fixed it for me too. Haven't seen the update though. I remember seeing an update yesterday, but I had this issue with that update so that did not fix it for me. Hope they update it again soon
bra1nDeaD said:
Yup, uninstalling fixed it for me too. Haven't seen the update though. I remember seeing an update yesterday, but I had this issue with that update so that did not fix it for me. Hope they update it again soon
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I think it was updated again today. Now v5.03, and it seems to work properly.
So nobody saw Extended Controls showing up in Spare Parts, System Panel or other such programs?
Is anyone else having issues with the battery life on their Gear Live lately? I'd say in the past 2 weeks or so the battery life has gotten absolutely awful with no reason at all. This is seriously as bad as the original Galaxy Gear at this point. When I first got my Gear Live back in June the battery would last all day easily, and I'd usually have at least 30% left at the end of the night when I stuck it on the charging cradle. Now when I get home from work it's almost always at 20%. I don't have any apps or custom watch faces on it because they all suck right now (since the SDK isn't available yet), and haven't changed my usage patterns with the watch at all since I got it. I've done factory resets, used it with other phones just to see if it's something weird with my phone, etc. Nothing helps. Anyone else having these issues suddenly? Thanks.
Kind of bad today 33% ..... may not make it home
AstroDigital said:
Kind of bad today 33% ..... may not make it home
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It seems to be getting worse each day. At this point I've double checked to make sure no apps are installed on the watch and just did another factory reset of it. We'll see how it is today. This is horrible, if it doesn't improve this thing is getting sold.
It was just a bad day.
I may start turning the screen off when I am out in the sun.
Wish there was or I knew how to quickly toggle the screen on/off
AstroDigital said:
It was just a bad day.
I may start turning the screen off when I am out in the sun.
Wish there was or I knew how to quickly toggle the screen on/off
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Yep, would be cool if pulling down to mute also turned the screen off unless turned on manually or by gesture.
I'm having sudden battery issues as well since yesterday. Took of the charger this morning at 8 am, by 10:20 only 75%, did reset and it changed to 49%, now at 12:45 I only have 12% left. Almost zero notifications, battery stat app shows no app use. Very confused from this.
Same issue
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Is anyone else having issues with the battery life on their Gear Live lately? I'd say in the past 2 weeks or so the battery life has gotten absolutely awful with no reason at all. This is seriously as bad as the original Galaxy Gear at this point. When I first got my Gear Live back in June the battery would last all day easily, and I'd usually have at least 30% left at the end of the night when I stuck it on the charging cradle. Now when I get home from work it's almost always at 20%. I don't have any apps or custom watch faces on it because they all suck right now (since the SDK isn't available yet), and haven't changed my usage patterns with the watch at all since I got it. I've done factory resets, used it with other phones just to see if it's something weird with my phone, etc. Nothing helps. Anyone else having these issues suddenly? Thanks.
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I can't say absolutely awful, but it suddenly lasts less than half the time it usually did. I used to go two days with around 21% left when putting it to charge, since around the 24th of December, suddenly last barely a day. I find it really weird, as I am using everything the same as before. The only thing I can think of is the watch being on Android L, and the phone on 4.4.4 KitKat. This is just a theory as I have no Android L phone to test this with, that the 2 versions of Android use the Bluetooth differently and thus create a battery leak. I am not sure, I will have to wait until my Moto G gets Android L.
I am returning my watch to Google because since 2 days ago my battery dies at 4pm when it originally lasted all day and when I went to bed I still have anywhere from 20-40% left. Also my charging cradle broke and won't stick to the watch. Had to use rubber bands to charge it. I wish I hadn't bought the Samsung Gear Live because it is a piece a junk... The Asus Zen watch costs the same and is much better quality....
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I thought I was alone
Mine went from going around 2 days to now about 6 hours. I
I've nuked it and my phone to no avail.
The only think that changed was I upgraded to Lolly Pop. Would love a fix for this
What a scam. If this is how they treat early adopters I'm not going to buy another
I just bought a used gear live, and my battery was terrible with almost nothing but a watch face really added. I went to the google fit app on the watch and scrolled all the way to settings and disabled it and it seems much improved already! I think the step tracking is killing the battery somehow.
So Today I had the wifi on the watch turned off and also had Google Fit turned off. Got a good bit of notifications for texts and such and used voice to replay to the majority of them. With always on screen turned on half the day and tilt to wake motion turned off all day it is at 50% and has been on about 14 hours and says it still has 14 hours left. I am pretty happy with that!
I was having battery issues at well. It got so bad that my watch wouldn't last from 8am until about 2pm. Finally I just stopped wearing it for a few weeks. Picked it up again a week or so ago and got the update. Since then battery life is back to what is expected. However, I haven't added my wifi hot spots yet.
Try the app SWapp True Dark. It allows you to lower your screen's brightness more than what is offered by default. I now get 24 hours out of my watch on a single charge and that is WITH the screen set to "always on"!
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Should also remember that Li ion batteries typically have a charge life of 500 cycles or 18 months before degrading quite a bit. Some of you with older ones will start to have batteries go.
So over the course of time I have used many different ROMs and also have had 5 batteries for my Note so far.
All ROMs gave me terrible battery life, except the stock android for around the first year, eventually it started giving me terrible battery life too.
So that got me wondering, is it possible that some kind of faulty hardware on my Note's motherboard is causing those battery drains?
[email protected] said:
So over the course of time I have used many different ROMs and also have had 5 batteries for my Note so far.
All ROMs gave me terrible battery life, except the stock android for around the first year, eventually it started giving me terrible battery life too.
So that got me wondering, is it possible that some kind of faulty hardware on my Note's motherboard is causing those battery drains?
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I'm pretty sure that would be possible, but I'd make sure to rule out any other cause you can rule out first.
First thing to do is check on who or what is consuming the battery, so installing something like CPU Spy will let you know if the phone just keeps running at top speeds.
Because there simply isn't enough juice in these batteries to allow all parts of the phone to run full throttle for hours.
Smart phones are really at their best, when their just sitting idle and then they really shouldn't consume any power. That's what you need to check: Does it really slow down and sleep, when you're not actively using it?
And CPU Spy (or similar tools) will give you that info by telling you how much time the CPU has spent at each speed setting. If it doesn't drop to deep sleep when the phone if off the charger, screen switched off at the home screen but stays running at 100-500MHz, then you have found the reason for the miserable battery life. Now you'd just have to find what's causing it.
And that could be a long story journey...
However you could start with an empty ROM fully wiped, nothing but the ROM and the minimum set of GAPPS installed (and CPU Spy or similar for checking) empty internal SDcard, expecially no media files. If you have an external SD card, best remove that initially so you don't have to delete any data you keep on there.
If then the Note isn't guzzling battery and sleeping deeply when not used, your hardware is fine.
Then it's just a matter of adding item after item, always checking of that is causing any change to CPU states and energy consumption.
You should also try to find out of any of your five batteries has issues and use a known good one for the testing.
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I'm pretty sure that would be possible, but I'd make sure to rule out any other cause you can rule out first.
First thing to do is check on who or what is consuming the battery, so installing something like CPU Spy will let you know if the phone just keeps running at top speeds.
Because there simply isn't enough juice in these batteries to allow all parts of the phone to run full throttle for hours.
Smart phones are really at their best, when their just sitting idle and then they really shouldn't consume any power. That's what you need to check: Does it really slow down and sleep, when you're not actively using it?
And CPU Spy (or similar tools) will give you that info by telling you how much time the CPU has spent at each speed setting. If it doesn't drop to deep sleep when the phone if off the charger, screen switched off at the home screen but stays running at 100-500MHz, then you have found the reason for the miserable battery life. Now you'd just have to find what's causing it.
And that could be a long story journey...
However you could start with an empty ROM fully wiped, nothing but the ROM and the minimum set of GAPPS installed (and CPU Spy or similar for checking) empty internal SDcard, expecially no media files. If you have an external SD card, best remove that initially so you don't have to delete any data you keep on there.
If then the Note isn't guzzling battery and sleeping deeply when not used, your hardware is fine.
Then it's just a matter of adding item after item, always checking of that is causing any change to CPU states and energy consumption.
You should also try to find out of any of your five batteries has issues and use a known good one for the testing.
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Okay to begin, the phone never drains battery when idle, never. If I charge to 100% at night around 23:00 , in the morning it would be around 90%. So that seems fair enough. Because I keep my EDGE / 2G activated at all times.
The real problem is when the screen is turned on (doesn't matter what I do).
I tried to keep the screen on for one hour, idle, doing nothing. Battery drained by a whooping 25%. So basically it's my screen which is consuming my battery. I didn't try this when I made this thread, so there's no mention of this in the first post.
So I don't think any other apps are consuming anything. Besides I hardly have any apps installed.
I got the gapps from the following link and installed the 'mini' package.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/par...apps-official-to-date-pa-google-apps-t2943900
Apart from I only have WhatsApp, Notepad, Perfect AppLock, AdAway and Chrome installed. Only a few apps since I did a full wipe yesterday night. Even flashed a stock ROM first and began from scratch.
So I don't really think it's any apps consuming any CPU, only screen is eating a ****load. Could it be the damaged screen?
Holy ****! I just recalled while writing this post, I did get this screen of this phone replace once, like one and half year ago. Could that be it? I did get it replaced from a official Samsung store though.
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Okay to begin, the phone never drains battery when idle, never. If I charge to 100% at night around 23:00 , in the morning it would be around 90%. So that seems fair enough. Because I keep my EDGE / 2G activated at all times.
The real problem is when the screen is turned on (doesn't matter what I do).
I tried to keep the screen on for one hour, idle, doing nothing. Battery drained by a whooping 25%. So basically it's my screen which is consuming my battery. I didn't try this when I made this thread, so there's no mention of this in the first post.
So I don't think any other apps are consuming anything. Besides I hardly have any apps installed.
I got the gapps from the following link and installed the 'mini' package.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/par...apps-official-to-date-pa-google-apps-t2943900
Apart from I only have WhatsApp, Notepad, Perfect AppLock, AdAway and Chrome installed. Only a few apps since I did a full wipe yesterday night. Even flashed a stock ROM first and began from scratch.
So I don't really think it's any apps consuming any CPU, only screen is eating a ****load. Could it be the damaged screen?
Holy ****! I just recalled while writing this post, I did get this screen of this phone replace once, like one and half year ago. Could that be it? I did get it replaced from a official Samsung store though.
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I'd consider playing with the brightness, just to see of something a little lower is good enough for daily use but I'd say that isn't impossible...
While Samsung liked to hype the fact that OLED would only use power on illuminated pixels, mine are mostly white because reading is what I do most on my Notes.
And then this screen on the Note 1 didn't use particularly less energy than a good LCD backlight screen according to the reviews I remember.
I also remember an article which said that the energy consumption on OLED wasn't linear and that the last 20% of brightness might cost 50% more power (the numbers are most likely bogus but the main point was that brightness/energy consumption wasn't linear).
And yes, there is most likely variation between individual screens on OLED and moreover OLED displays decay with use and over time. I haven't noticed it that much with my Note 1 yet, but my older Samsung Galaxy S I-9000 that I passed on to one of my sons developed a brightness issue: Everything below the first 100 lines or so is significantly darker than the top. I don't know wether that's a consequence of his usage pattern (Whatsapp) or some other reason, but I do know that he typically kept the display at top brightness and also kept it lit far longer than I ever did.
I've always been somewhat disappointed by the endurance of the Note 1 but I haven't really noticed any significant change with the different ROM versions. And since I was also somewhat disappointed by the performance of the device I couldn't resist replacing it with the Note 3 when that came out.
That device was better in pretty much every regard, except screen ratio: I really, really liked the 16:10 of the Note 1 a lot better than the 16:9 of the Note 3.
abufrejoval said:
I'd consider playing with the brightness, just to see of something a little lower is good enough for daily use but I'd say that isn't impossible...
While Samsung liked to hype the fact that OLED would only use power on illuminated pixels, mine are mostly white because reading is what I do most on my Notes.
And then this screen on the Note 1 didn't use particularly less energy than a good LCD backlight screen according to the reviews I remember.
I also remember an article which said that the energy consumption on OLED wasn't linear and that the last 20% of brightness might cost 50% more power (the numbers are most likely bogus but the main point was that brightness/energy consumption wasn't linear).
And yes, there is most likely variation between individual screens on OLED and moreover OLED displays decay with use and over time. I haven't noticed it that much with my Note 1 yet, but my older Samsung Galaxy S I-9000 that I passed on to one of my sons developed a brightness issue: Everything below the first 100 lines or so is significantly darker than the top. I don't know wether that's a consequence of his usage pattern (Whatsapp) or some other reason, but I do know that he typically kept the display at top brightness and also kept it lit far longer than I ever did.
I've always been somewhat disappointed by the endurance of the Note 1 but I haven't really noticed any significant change with the different ROM versions. And since I was also somewhat disappointed by the performance of the device I couldn't resist replacing it with the Note 3 when that came out.
That device was better in pretty much every regard, except screen ratio: I really, really liked the 16:10 of the Note 1 a lot better than the 16:9 of the Note 3.
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I see. Thank you for the time you took to write this reply.
I always have my brightness to the lowest possible and yet I am facing battery drains.
Anyways, it seems this problem is beyond repair. I have literally tried every solution possible and nothing seems to have worked. So I guess it's time to move on.
Thank you for your time and information.
It's probably my screen that's consuming the battery. It can easily last up to 20 hours with 2G turned on the entire day. But as soon as I turn the screen on and start doing something, battery drains at like 1% every 60 seconds.
How old is your battery?.. I´d say get a new one if it´s older than 1 year..
I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?
Morpherios said:
I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?
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I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
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You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.
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I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
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I did have scanning on, so I went and turned them off. I have a Verizon variant, so I can't root. Do you have any recommendations for how to track down a rogue app or service that might be draining the battery?
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You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.
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I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
Do you know anything about the... I think the setting is called Always On Display or something like that. The setting where when the phone is locked and the screen is off, it always displays the time and notification icons. I had it on my Pixel 2 and it worked great, it's almost necessary for me at this point. I have it turned on also on the 5, but it seems...finicky? At times it shuts off, especially at night. I used to keep my Pixel2 on my nightstand (just laying flat, not on a stand or anything) and the time would be on all night so I could see it at night if I woke up. With the 5 it seems to shut off in the dark. Additionally periodically during the day it sometimes all of sudden jumps to really high brightness, then back down to dim, sometimes it turns off completely and I have to hit the power button or the fingerprint reader to unlock the phone. Even doing the tap to wake doesn't work. Actually that double tap to wake doesn't seem to work at all regardless.
Any info on any of those issues you know about? I've been searching around and I've found basic references to some stuff with that always on display but no direct threads or anything specific.
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I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
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Not too sure about AOD, I just went with defaults. But last night, my first with the P5, I unplugged at full charge and 7 + hours later it was at 100%. That's never happened but it was face down and on DND. Nonetheless, check out this thread, download the app, non root needs certain permissions, and let it run for a day or so. It should show you what you need to know.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Did you make sure to charge the phone to 100% before using it??? These lithium ion batteries need to be charged to the max if you want them to last. My pixel 5 wasn't even fully charged it was somewhere around 65% out of the box. I would leave it charging for a half hour or so once it hits 100% just to be sure.
I mean.. this is mine.
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I mean this mine.
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That looks similar to my first day of use. Excellent battery life so far.
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I mean.. this is mine.
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That's incredible. Next time include all 3 screens please. I could get 12 hours of on screen time all on wifi. Let's see you get that on 5G.
Real world battery is best.
I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.
Coming from a worn out pixel 2xl this 5 is fabulous the battery is great. I accidentally left the flashlight on for an hour and it barely drained it. The battery is exceeding my expectations. Screen on time at 5 hours and I'm just at 49% with 10 hours remaining. I'm satisfied for sure
Also on Verizon, but no issues for me. Battery life has been amazing, I didn't charge last night (unintentional) and I was going until this afternoon, with mostly light usage. I've never experienced something like that before.
So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
Link Here
The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.
I'm at 5 hours of screen on time and 17 hours use. The battery is exceptional and I can dedicate more time to work online because of it.
It sounds like you have ported a troublesome app over from your old phone to be honest. I think a factory reset would fix it.
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I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.
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Mine says 3,900mAh and hasn't changed for two weeks, which irritates me. Battery life is... okay.
Curious
I'm losing apprx. 6-10% while I sleep. seems a little excessive compared to other testimonies. I have to usaul social media apps, messeging apps no gaming, no AOD.
Any insight is appreciated.
I aslo did the FR with copying from older phone as suggested in the thread.
Morpherios said:
So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
Link Here
The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.
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I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.
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I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.
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I just finally got my replacement last night from Verizon. Too early to tell if it fixed my battery issues because I had to set everything up and such. But If you have those issues, I would get a replacement. That's a faulty phone.