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So I got my OP3 around a week ago now and at first, I loved it. It was by far the fastest Android phone I had used (even compared to the 6P)
However, fast does not always mean smooth. Sure, it opened apps fast, but the animations in the UI were very stuttery and janky and were horrible to watch a lot of the time. So I took to XDA with my issue and was told that a factory reset would 100% fix this, so I reset the phone... and for probably 24 hours, the phone was smooth again - hoorah! And then the stuttering slowly crept back in, the keyboard (google keyboard) was slow and froze a few times. My overall impression of the performace of the phone would be that it is fast, but compared to the smoothness of the Nexus 6P, it is below par.
The build quality is pretty good, my only issue being a very wobbly and loose volume button, but other than that, it is just as good as any iPhone or high end phone.
The screen... In short, if you are coming from a 1440p phone, you will notice the difference. Anyone that says they can't frankly needs an eye test. The colours are almost neon compared to AMOLED panels on high end Samsung's (some may like this, I didn't mind it). It gets fairly bright, not as bright as most other flagship phones though. The viewing angels are odd, tilt it one way and the display turns purple, tilt it the other way and it turns blue, slightly annoying.
The headphone jack is on par with the iPhone, which is saying a lot in my opinion. The speakers are absolute trash. Do not expect anything like the quality of the Nexus 6P or the Moto X Pure edition.
The DASH charging feature has got to be the best feature of the phone, it is as good as everyone says it is. The phone can fully charge from 0% in about 70 minutes in my testing, which is far, far faster than the Nexus 6P or any other phone I own.
The battery life is also very good, it outlasts the 6P in my experience and the standby time is also better too (dropping around 0.75% an hour compared to 1-2% an hour drain on the 6P).
The fingerprint scanner is blazingly fast, when it wants to work. I'd say 75% of the time it worked, the rest of the time it did not. I'm sure some smart guy will say that it is centrally positioned and you need to press the centre. I am aware of this and it made no difference, even after adding the same finger 5 times.
The camera is... so-so. It takes acceptable pictures is absolute perfect lighting conditions, but anything less than that and the pictures will look grainy and fuzzy. In low light, you may as well be using an iPhone 3G (I really mean that). Camera fanatics will want to avoid this phone like the plague
The real downfall of this phone for me and the reason I have no other option but to return it, is that the WiFi and cellular reception (at least for me) is worse than any device I have ever used. My iPhone 5s gets 4G pretty much everywhere at maximum speeds, whereas the OP3 managed to get 4G probably 5% of the time and at much lower speeds. The WiFi is terrible, getting around 1-2 MB/S download speed compared to 10-15mb/s on my iPhone 5s. (my internet is usually slow anyway, but the OP3 took it to a new level) This resulted in the almost 3 year old iPhone loading any form of webpage, video or audio significantly faster than the OP3.
To conclude, if you are seriously considering the OnePlus 3, lower your overall expectations. Remember that it is a cheap phone, and it is cheap for a reason. OnePlus had to cut corners somewhere and the WiFi and cellular reception, sadly is where they took a hit. The only advice I can give is that you do have a 15 day return period, so by all means try the phone and if you have a similar experience as me, you can ditch it.
I know a lot of you will hate on this post as you love the OP3 and can't bear the thought of someone saying anything bad about it. I'm not saying it is a bad phone, I think that overall, it's good, but it is not flawless by any means.
I hope this helps at least someone! I will answer any questions if I can.
I don't know what lag or smoothness issues you are talking about but that is your experience and opinion so it doesn't matter to others as long as their phone is super smooth. Since you used the Nexus 6P too though, do you mind posting here a long review for the Nexus 6P as well. I am curious to see how objective you are ?
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brickedvice said:
I don't know what lag or smoothness issues you are talking about but that is your experience and opinion so it doesn't matter to others as long as their phone is super smooth. Since you used the Nexus 6P too though, do you mind posting here a long review for the Nexus 6P as well. I am curious to see how objective you are
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If that is a serious request, then I guess so?
It sucks that I had issues with my device, I really wanted to keep the phone.
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If that is a serious request, then I guess so?
It sucks that I had issues with my device, I really wanted to keep the phone.
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Yes it is. I have both phones and have had slightly different experiences from you. I look forward to your post about yhe Nexus 6P.
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Yes it is. I have both phones and have had slightly different experiences from you. I look forward to your post about yhe Nexus 6P.
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Would you like me to post it in the same section of the Nexus 6P forums?
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Would you like me to post it in the same section of the Nexus 6P forums?
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You can post it here since this is your thread and you already compare it vs the Nexus 6P so it shouldn't be a problem.
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For those interested in my experience with the Nexus 6P (since I mentioned it a fair bit in my OP3 review) this is how I feel about it.
The 6P, in short, was my favourite Android experience. It was not the fastest phone available, the OP3 is faster. However, it was smoother than the OP3 (I focus on animations and transitions when I say this) Never once did the 6P drop a frame in the general UI of the phone, which is not something I can say for the OP3.
The screen of the 6P is superior to the OP3 as is it brighter (only just) the resolution is noticeably better and the colours were more accurate. However, every single 6P I went through (I had a total of 4 before I eventually gave up) had display issues, most of which were to do with colour banding. The build quality of the 6P is absolutely no where near that of the OP3, 2 of my devices arrived slightly bent, all of them but one had mushy buttons, they all came with some degree of scratching as well. I also noticed that the display was not fully flat on any of the devices I had, this was evident when looking at a reflection on the screen, it appeared very warped.
The headphone jack was the reason I ended up ditching the 6P. Each of my devices, without fail, had an audible hissing or white noise sound at below 50% volume. Most people said I was just unlucky, but for each of them to have this issue... I don't think so. (Yes I tried many pairs of headphones) The speakers are the best I've tried, by far. They are far superior to the tinny, horrible speaker on the OP3.
The camera is a lot better on the 6P too, it produced some fantastic shots, compared to the average - below par photos taken on the OP3.
Battery life was mostly similar, but the OP3 has the edge here. However, I had the 6P for a lot longer than the OP3, so I can't say for sure how it would perform over time compared to the 6P!
Wifi and cellular reception on the 6P was far, far greater than that of the OP3, I never had any issues with my 6P whereas my OP3 gave me constant grief.
This mostly sounds like the OP3 is fairly evenly matched with the 6P, but even having all of the issues that I had with my 6P, I would still choose it over the OP3 100% of the time. It was a more enjoyable and fluid experience that I can't fully explain.
So far, nothing quite compares to Nexus in my experience.
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For those interested in my experience with the Nexus 6P (since I mentioned it a fair bit in my OP3 review) this is how I feel about it.
The 6P, in short, was my favourite Android experience. It was not the fastest phone available, the OP3 is faster. However, it was smoother than the OP3 (I focus on animations and transitions when I say this) Never once did the 6P drop a frame in the general UI of the phone, which is not something I can say for the OP3.
The screen of the 6P is superior to the OP3 as is it brighter (only just) the resolution is noticeably better and the colours were more accurate. However, every single 6P I went through (I had a total of 4 before I eventually gave up) had display issues, most of which were to do with colour banding. The build quality of the 6P is absolutely no where near that of the OP3, 2 of my devices arrived slightly bent, all of them but one had mushy buttons, they all came with some degree of scratching as well. I also noticed that the display was not fully flat on any of the devices I had, this was evident when looking at a reflection on the screen, it appeared very warped.
The headphone jack was the reason I ended up ditching the 6P. Each of my devices, without fail, had an audible hissing or white noise sound at below 50% volume. Most people said I was just unlucky, but for each of them to have this issue... I don't think so. (Yes I tried many pairs of headphones) The speakers are the best I've tried, by far. They are far superior to the tinny, horrible speaker on the OP3.
The camera is a lot better on the 6P too, it produced some fantastic shots, compared to the average - below par photos taken on the OP3.
Battery life was mostly similar, but the OP3 has the edge here. However, I had the 6P for a lot longer than the OP3, so I can't say for sure how it would perform over time compared to the 6P!
Wifi and cellular reception on the 6P was far, far greater than that of the OP3, I never had any issues with my 6P whereas my OP3 gave me constant grief.
This mostly sounds like the OP3 is fairly evenly matched with the 6P, but even having all of the issues that I had with my 6P, I would still choose it over the OP3 100% of the time. It was a more enjoyable and fluid experience that I can't fully explain.
So far, nothing quite compares to Nexus in my experience.
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Did you happen to notice how slow the camera app on the Nexus 6P is? Also you mention that you replaced the Nexus 6P 4 times. Did you ever try to replace your OP3? Your unit sounds faulty or you probably used it with a custom rom that had bugs. Reception has been fine for me but I see other people complain about it. When you say that camera is below average, what do you mean or how do you compare it vs the Nexus 6P?
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Did you happen to notice how slow the camera app on the Nexus 6P is? Also you mention that you replaced the Nexus 6P 4 times. Did you ever try to replace your OP3? Your unit sounds faulty or you probably used it with a custom rom that had bugs. Reception has been fine for me but I see other people complain about it. When you say that camera is below average, what do you mean or how do you compare it vs the Nexus 6P?
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The camera app on the 6P was slow, yes. It was a lot faster on the OP3. I never ran a custom rom on my OP3. I am sick of having to replace phones over and over, which is why I chose to just return it and not replace it.
The camera of the OP3 is not comparable to the 6P, the 6P is far better (to my eye). The camera on the OP3 has a lot of noise in the photos and also mostly seems blurry.
I wasn't impressed with the OP3 camera, let's put it that way.
Not every phone I've had lately can be faulty, people seem to use that as an excuse for any issue I've noticed.
I do want to stress that other than the few issues I encountered with the OP3, I really wanted to keep it because it could have been almost perfect. But I couldn't make the sacrifice on those key areas.
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I do want to stress that other than the few issues I encountered with the OP3, I really wanted to keep it because it could have been almost perfect. But I couldn't make the sacrifice on those key areas.
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That's fine. I think customers shouldn't have to make any sacrifices when they pay for a product. Get the iPhone 7 when it comes out. Apple uses simplistic devices that work out of the box and camera never fails to disappoint. Also their displays are the best when it comes to color accuracy and brightness. Battery life is great too. As far as the OP3 goes I agree with you that the display is average at best and you can easily notice the pixels. I have been satisfied with the camera and battery life so far (although I think they should have put a bigger battery to compensate that camera bump). This is the fastest phome I have used and I have used pretty much all the flagship devices in the last years. You could have tried to change animation speed and see if that could make the animations smooth as you like them on the Nexus 6P. To me they seem fine though. People say that for $400 this phone is the best, but I don't think that should be mentioned when we review the device. Will see what Note 7, iPhone 7 and Nexus 7 bring on the table
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That's fine. I think customers shouldn't have to make any sacrifices when they pay for a product. Get the iPhone 7 when it comes out. Apple uses simplistic devices that work out of the box and camera never fails to disappoint. Also their displays are the best when it comes to color accuracy and brightness. Battery life is great too. As far as the OP3 goes I agree with you that the display is average at best and you can easily notice the pixels. I have been satisfied with the camera and battery life so far (although I think they should have put a bigger battery to compensate that camera bump). This is the fastest phome I have used and I have used pretty much all the flagship devices in the last years. You could have tried to change animation speed and see if that could make the animations smooth as you like them on the Nexus 6P. To me they seem fine though. People say that for $400 this phone is the best, but I don't think that should be mentioned when we review the device. Will see what Note 7, iPhone 7 and Nexus 7 bring on the table
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I couldn't agree more, the price shouldn't matter when reviewing it. I think I'm going to get the next iPhone when it is released as I am a bit tired of small, yet annoying issues with the android devices that I have used. It's a sad moment for me to decide that, but I think it'll be better for me in the long run.
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I couldn't agree more, the price shouldn't matter when reviewing it. I think I'm going to get the next iPhone when it is released as I am a bit tired of small, yet annoying issues with the android devices that I have used. It's a sad moment for me to decide that, but I think it'll be better for me in the long run.
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It is not easy to transition to iPhone if you are used with Android ecosystem. Apple definitly got its **** together. And there are no new phones coming out every 2 months. It is just 1 iPhone every year.
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I wanted to chime in this topic as I've had a nexus 6p since November and I just got the one plus three on Wed.
I terms of the nexus 6p. My unit was perfect. No display issues at all, no bending, no audio problems. Still in perfect shape even now.
The main problem I had with the nexus 6p was performance. The phone would run great after a reboot, but it would get progressively slower and laggier as time went on. I would have to reboot the phone every couple of days to keep it running quickly. Also, because it has the snapdragon 810, I would notice significant lag when the phone heated up and the cores would start turning off. This wasn't even while playing games, the phone would start thermal throttling just by using chrome. Its well known that the snapdragon 810 isn't a great SOC, even though the nexus 6p is probably the best implementation of it.
Also, when I first bought the phone, I was getting pretty good battery life, 5+ hours of SOT, now it has gotten pretty bad and I'm only getting about 4 hours of SOT.
I'm surprised that people are complaining about the 1080p display on the one plus three. In my eyes, comparing the n6p and the one plus three, I can barely tell the difference between the two screens. They are both super sharp. The only difference is that the white balance is tuned differently. The one plus three has a more bluish cooler white balance, while the n6p has a warmer yellowish white balance. i'm sure in a couple of weeks/months, there will be custom kernels for the one plus three that will let you tweak the display colors. I find it funny that when the n6p came out, people were complaining that the screen was too warm. Now people are complaining that the one plus three is too cool. People love to complain about anything.
In terms of performance on the one plus three, I've had no issues at all with lag and slowdown. I've had the phone running without a reboot for over 3 days and its still just as smooth and fast as the day I got it. Its much better than the nexus 6p in that regard.
Also, battery life on the one plus three is great. I'm consistently getting over 6+ hours of SOT.
I've also not experienced any of the wifi or LTE issues.
I'm not a big camera person, so either phone is good enough for me.
My biggest gripe with the one plus three is that the adaptive brightness is slow and doesn't work very well. Other than that, the one plus three has replaced my nexus 6p as my daily driver. I love the performance and the battery life.
I'm glad you've had no issues!
Here's hoping it stays that way!
I returned my 1+3 too. I was not compleatly sure to give it back but there were some issues that me me feel not compleatly happy:
-It warms up too much easy in my opinion. Browsing, looking picture in google foto, watching movies in streming , etc...
-it becames hot in playing games
-"fingerprint in the pocket" issue that obliged me to disable fingerprint scan
-in call audio not very good. Voice is not very clear and natural, both parts.
-adaptive display not very fast and, in some situations, became too dark to oblige me to switch in manual mode and make it brighter
-getting hot during dash charge.
-sometimes switching from normal mode to "not disturb" mode with no reason, even if the slide was in normal position
Now that i returned it back.... i don't know what to do......
For other aspects i was very happy with oneplus3 : battery, charging time, dual sim, responsiveness, display, building quality, etc.....
Even with these problems, i cannot see any other phone that fits my needs. S7 edge is the best but too costly.
I'm thinking to buy 1+3 again hoping that mine was faulty. But...still I have not decided. I'll let you know.
I hear you OP, the OP3 isn't perfect (by far), but I like it...
Looks like elemental x kernel released an update with color control.
That's one problem down.
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I returned my 1+3 too. I was not compleatly sure to give it back but there were some issues that me me feel not compleatly happy:
-It warms up too much easy in my opinion. Browsing, looking picture in google foto, watching movies in streming , etc...
-it becames hot in playing games
-"fingerprint in the pocket" issue that obliged me to disable fingerprint scan
-in call audio not very good. Voice is not very clear and natural, both parts.
-adaptive display not very fast and, in some situations, became too dark to oblige me to switch in manual mode and make it brighter
-getting hot during dash charge.
-sometimes switching from normal mode to "not disturb" mode with no reason, even if the slide was in normal position
Now that i returned it back.... i don't know what to do......
For other aspects i was very happy with oneplus3 : battery, charging time, dual sim, responsiveness, display, building quality, etc.....
Even with these problems, i cannot see any other phone that fits my needs. S7 edge is the best but too costly.
I'm thinking to buy 1+3 again hoping that mine was faulty. But...still I have not decided. I'll let you know.
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Buy OP3!! :highfive:
enzooliva said:
I returned my 1+3 too. I was not compleatly sure to give it back but there were some issues that me me feel not compleatly happy:
-It warms up too much easy in my opinion. Browsing, looking picture in google foto, watching movies in streming , etc...
-it becames hot in playing games
-"fingerprint in the pocket" issue that obliged me to disable fingerprint scan
-in call audio not very good. Voice is not very clear and natural, both parts.
-adaptive display not very fast and, in some situations, became too dark to oblige me to switch in manual mode and make it brighter
-getting hot during dash charge.
-sometimes switching from normal mode to "not disturb" mode with no reason, even if the slide was in normal position
Now that i returned it back.... i don't know what to do......
For other aspects i was very happy with oneplus3 : battery, charging time, dual sim, responsiveness, display, building quality, etc.....
Even with these problems, i cannot see any other phone that fits my needs. S7 edge is the best but too costly.
I'm thinking to buy 1+3 again hoping that mine was faulty. But...still I have not decided. I'll let you know.
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What phone have you used before?
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I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
These are really just my opinions, and you are free to disagree. Even I might change my mind if there are really good reasons to!
I might as well add that paid about $860 (in Norway) for my P10 Plus while Galaxy S8+ costs "slightly more" (about $1,000). I just feel like I got so little in return for the price I paid.
I have to decide by tomorrow anyway whether to keep this device or return it, and I am currently leaning towards returning it.
Thanks for any tips, advices, opinions, etc.
Good things:
Responsive fingerprint reader on the front side, unlocks screen pretty much instantly.
Has a nice shape (like an iPhone 7). No annoying sharp edges except at the bottom holes for connectors, where I support the device with my pinky finger.
Lots of camera settings.
My device luckily has UFS 2.1.
Pretty good WiFi speed (measured more than 200 Mbps during internet speed test).
The DAC's quality is okay (not very good). A little bit of noise when using my sensitive in-ear headphones, but it's very bearable. This is only a "good" point because it's an upgrade from my old phone.
Bad things:
I already found some sluggish menus on day one.
Somewhat bad performance when taking photos and shooting videos, even playing back videos I captured is somewhat choppy.
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
The swiping on the fingerprint reader is a bit of a hit and miss because it might register a tap which means "back" (or exit).
Photos taken and saved as JPEG look bad. RAW images look quite a bit better but it takes seconds to save each image.
My GFXBench result is pretty bad compared to other devices.
Nitpicking:
The edge of the screen protector is so annoying I want to take it off. Note: If you do it, you might want to apply oleophobic coating.
I wish the fingerprint sensor indentation was a bit less deep, because it makes the swiping motion feel less comfortable. The screen protector is probably most of the reason though.
I was never able to transfer app data (only apps themselves) from my old device using any method suggested by Huawei. The thing that did work was a backup/restore using adb.
USB 2 is pretty slow after getting used to USB 3.
The device sometimes thinks that I am using a knuckle gesture when I am using the tip of my finger.
sometimes very laggy also. And some apps not compatible with the camera.
Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Camera send not so good to me, maybe I don't know how to use it
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I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
Bad things:
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
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Pretty much this phone is unusable due these 2 things, battery life is poor as AF, and from my perspective, Huawei messed up EMUI 5.1 really hard.
Probably an update would fix it, but we don't have ETA yet.
I will return back the P10 Plus because I think is not worth it, and I will buy a Mate 9 Pro that is virtually the same device, but battery life is so much better.
@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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Well, I'm talking about my room, which has air conditioning, and I just bought the P10 Plus and today I returned it back.
Problem solved, I got my money back, and I'm trying to see which phone to get, but pretty much I don' t like what I see in the market now.
Galaxo60 said:
This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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Today I returned my P10 Plus, for me there's no excuse to pay so much for a phone that has basic problems.
I will see if I get a Mate 9 Pro or any other phone, but I'm kind of picky when getting a new device.
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Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
nougn said:
Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
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You should post your experiences in the battery thread, so it could have more visibility and people can start to acknowledge this, would be really nice from you to do it.
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Different screens
The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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I'm sorry, but there is no way that the screen technology is the decisive factor between 3 and 6 hours SOT.
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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I understand your point, but still having AMOLED display means nothing in 2017. You can see the HTC U11 with LCD and has pretty goddamn battery life. You can have the normal Mate 9 with IPS and also has a really nice battery life. Right now screen technologies are really mature and it doesn't influence much (or at all) what kind is on a phone.
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Point taken
Came from S8, I used it for a couple of months and now Im using P10 Plus.
Im more than happy now with P10+.
I have had my P10 Plus for about 2 months now and I can tell you I get around 5 hours of SOT with 1-2 of gaming. The battery stays at 100% for about 15 minutes regardless what I do and then begins to drop. Somehow form 70% downwards it starts to really slow its discharge rate. You might worry about this but the honest truth is that I can make it at the end of each day (around midnight) with around 15-20% battery left. For me this is more than enough as I recharge my phone every night.
I would suggest you stop worrying about your phone dying on you and just start using it. Also use Phone Manager once a day and you'll be good to go.
Hope it helps.
I'm mostly considering battery life and everyday camera.
I'm typing from my op6 but I might return it as it has terrible battery life, everything else is fab.
What are your thoughts?
Considering batter life and camera performance its most probably the P20 pro. But if you want to install custom roms and have a great developer scene you should stick with the OP6.
BTW I've never heard the op6 had a terrible battery life really.
Thx, have the stuttering and cursor latency been fixed?
Lots of complaints on the op forum.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...ve-battery-life.837232/page-124#post-18580171
I for one have 4h sot doing very light tasks.
Might be due poor reception as well.
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Thx, have the stuttering and cursor latency been fixed?
Lots of complaints on the op forum.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...ve-battery-life.837232/page-124#post-18580171
I for one have 4h sot doing very light tasks.
Might be due poor reception as well.
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Battery is the best ive ever had... IVE been up for over an hour checking email and something on ebay and im still at 100%... as far as the camera. its also great and will get better with upcoming updates..
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Battery is the best ive ever had... IVE been up for over an hour checking email and something on ebay and im still at 100%... as far as the camera. its also great and will get better with upcoming updates..
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I suppose you're referring to the p20pro
any problem issue anything? I for instance remember people having issue with the cursor latency and after a bit of digging it seems it was solved with v110 or 120 of the firmware.
Would you overall recommend it?
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Thx, have the stuttering and cursor latency been fixed?
Lots of complaints on the op forum.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...ve-battery-life.837232/page-124#post-18580171
I for one have 4h sot doing very light tasks.
Might be due poor reception as well.
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With 4h of very light tasks, on P20 Pro you'll end up with 50% battery remaining or even more. With heavy usage (a full day in 4g,high accuracy location always ON, 2 hours of music streaming, 30 mins of heavy gaming, taking pics etc...) I got 4-5h of sot with 15-20% left.
The screen latency was fixed with updates. I overall recommend it! If you're looking for great battery and a great camera in a smartphone, this one is the best right now. Some review adresses poor camera performance, but in real life it's outstanding: zoom, low light and the large amount of setting makes it the most versatile camera out there.
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I'm mostly considering battery life and everyday camera.
I'm typing from my op6 but I might return it as it has terrible battery life, everything else is fab.
What are your thoughts?
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Very tough one that.
Camera is better on the p20 pro besides video which is superior on the oneplus 6
Battery is a tough one, the p20 pro has a huge battery but at the same time it's not the most efficient device in the world, i average about 8 hours SOT per full charge, where as with my oneplus 5 i used to average 10 hours maxing out one time with a mental 14 hours SOT, the pro simply can't beat that, with that being said though the oneplus 6 hasnt upgraded it's battery afaik so it would probably even out with the p20 pro or perhaps be worse.
in regards to software, with a few tweaks the p20 pro is a very well customized device with all the options you'll ever need.
The oneplus is really minimal which is superb for pace, but you'll have more ROM's to flash than you'll know what to do with.
Aftermarket development is totally one sided with the Oneplus 6 getting a lot of attention and some great developers whereas the p20 has erm ? 2 i think
CPU / GPU: Oneplus 6 hands down, the 845 is a crazy processor which will never slow down plus it's very efficient and seldom overheats, you'd have to throw a lot at it.
The P20 on the other hand gets warm at times when very little is going on.
If i had the choice now? I think i'd probably get the oneplus 6 although i'd probably be looking over the fence at the p20 pro, it's camera is just amazing.
Depends what you want pal, i don't think theres a wrong decision here, they're both great devices.
Just to confuse you even more, why don't you wait for the pixel 3 xl, it's looking decent.
P20 Pro is definitely the one to get if you're looking for great battery life+cameras, I've heard about the battery issues on the OP6 too, OP pushed an update that disabled the always on display because of poor battery life the P20 Pro should fare much much better. Definitely get the P20 Pro if you can, it's just a better phone overall, speakers are top notch, performance is great and the chin is smaller in person, haven't had any issues so far.
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I suppose you're referring to the p20pro
any problem issue anything? I for instance remember people having issue with the cursor latency and after a bit of digging it seems it was solved with v110 or 120 of the firmware.
Would you overall recommend it?
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Yes p20 pro... my short lists of phones
v30
s9+
note8
op6
u12+
ive got zero regrets choosing this phone. the battery and camera are amazing. the Op6 was in the running until i looked at phots posted from real users and NOT professional review sights. I use Nova pro and glance plus to handle my notifications and AOD. in short. amazing. love the blacks(screen) this phone produces.
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Good day and a happy new year. I am considering a switch from apple again and this is my target device. The things i need your help deciding are the below, in order of priority (for me) :
-Thermals. I have been switching between iphones and androids for many years. And so far all androids i owned (most samsung devices) tend to heat up even with the most normal of uses. My last switch from s7 edge to Iphone 6s Plus was purely due to that. You could feel the device back heating just from surfing on wifi indoors. Please advise how the Note 9 performs in this task.
-Camera . It is widely said that Note 9 camera does not handle motion at all . For example , shooting a person that moves or an animal, will surely result in a blurry photo. Just how bad is the situation ?
-Background applications resource usage . In my last experience with android (s7e 7.1) just about any application could run any way it wanted and hog resources/battery without any consent whatsoever. I get the benefits of multitasking but if the trade off is me losing control of what is going on i need to take it in consideration. Please advise how the Note 9 performs in this task (current android version it runs atm).
-Storage speed . iPhones over 6+ are using nvme type flash storage wich is stupid fast. I cannot find any nand benchmarks for the note 9 exynos model. Any info on that? Also what type of nand does it use(very important for future proofing).
-Processor .I n my region the only note 9 available is the one with exynos (SM-N960F). how does it perform compared to the snapdragon variant ?
-GPS . As you may have heard, iPhone GPS accuracy and lock speeds are out of this world. Is note 9's performance in this area satisfactory? (again for the exynos model).
- Any one here switched from iphone to note 9 ? Maybe you could share something that you would consider useful to know beforehand ?
So sorry to hit you with that wall of text but for me €800+ for a phone is kind of a big deal (for my current financials). That is mostly why i had to rule out the XS Max in the first place (€1350+ where i live).
Camera wise the IQ from the N9 is quite a bit better, and in Pro mode i have no issues with movement. The screen on the N9 is in another league. Resource use wise, yes Samsung has a lot of junk but it's easy enough to delete (even system) junk even on an unrooted phone, and even the ones you keep you can control each app individually for resource use (mobile data, battery). Processing wise the iPhones have always been solid but the N9 is very slick to. I've had mine a month and no heating issues at all not even a little. Battery life wise i get 7odd hours off SoT and about 60 odd hours between charges. Best phone I've ever had, and the SPen functionality is amazing!
Exynos is at least as good as Snapdragon, probably a bit better actually if you read the forums. GPS is very good I've had no issues.
I had an iPhone 7 a few years back but it cannot compete at all with the N9 imho.
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Well to be fair compare e iphone 6s plus to the note 9 is a hit pointless.... Any category you will se better performance l. Software wise S9 and note 9 are the android phones from Samsung that will never slow down at all. Then leaves the software experience that android and apple offers that should be where you make your decision...
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Well to be fair compare e iphone 6s plus to the note 9 is a hit pointless.... Any category you will se better performance l. Software wise S9 and note 9 are the android phones from Samsung that will never slow down at all. Then leaves the software experience that android and apple offers that should be where you make your decision...
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Why is it that they will not slow down at all ?
In my experience all androids start to slow down after the 6-8 months mark.
I had my S8+ for over a year and never saw any decrease in performance, i cleared dalvik cache every once in a while and never saw any performance drop.
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I currently am using both the Note 9 snapdragon version and the iPhone xs max and BOTH phones are very fast. Without hitting every point I'll try to answer the overall questions you have. For me the one thing I like better about the iphone is the physical size of the phone. I like that it's a touch thicker and wider, just feels a bit better balanced in my hand but that's it. I have not had any issues with my Note getting warm, even a little bit. I use Package Disabler from the play store and freeze the apps, even processes which I don't want taking up resources on my phone. I think I paid a couple of bucks for the app but it works well. The photos I've taken with the phone have been fine but I'm not taking pictures everyday. I just can do so much more with my Note, the secure folder is almost like having a second phone plus the s pen can't be beat. I try new ios devices when they come out but I always get bored with them after a few weeks which is not the same feeling I get with Android. I will say ios feels a lot more Android like with the latest version then it did a few years ago but it's still too boring for me. The best analogy I've heard is ios is for people that like to play checkers and Android is for people that like to play chess.
Hope that helps,
Try the Note 9....end of story!
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I currently am using both the Note 9 snapdragon version and the iPhone xs max and BOTH phones are very fast. Without hitting every point I'll try to answer the overall questions you have. For me the one thing I like better about the iphone is the physical size of the phone. I like that it's a touch thicker and wider, just feels a bit better balanced in my hand but that's it. I have not had any issues with my Note getting warm, even a little bit. I use Package Disabler from the play store and freeze the apps, even processes which I don't want taking up resources on my phone. I think I paid a couple of bucks for the app but it works well. The photos I've taken with the phone have been fine but I'm not taking pictures everyday. I just can do so much more with my Note, the secure folder is almost like having a second phone plus the s pen can't be beat. I try new ios devices when they come out but I always get bored with them after a few weeks which is not the same feeling I get with Android. I will say ios feels a lot more Android like with the latest version then it did a few years ago but it's still too boring for me. The best analogy I've heard is ios is for people that like to play checkers and Android is for people that like to play chess.
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Try the Note 9....end of story!
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Thank you so very much mate..
Just one last question.
How much truth do all this fuss about blurry photo hold ? is the device hardware/software really that bad at shooting moving objects? i hear that ppl cannot even get nice photos of grass/pet furr etc . that is my only gripe.
I also use Note 9 and iPhone XS Max. The only thing I really love with the Note 9 is the secure folder function and the split screen for two apps at the same time. That’s alone make me keeping my Note.
The camera in the iPhone is better in every aspect and that is when using auto mode. Don’t have the time to fiddle with pro mode. And the problems with fur and other details in photos are really there so not that impressed with the Note camera.
The pen is nice but I don’t use it that much as I thought I would as I find the Note 9 screen to narrow to really use it in a good way for notes.
They are both really speedy devices and haven’t had any slowdowns in them. Both flying, sure the Note can have some micro lag sometimes but nothing that disturbs me.
The battery holds up much better in my iPhone with the same usage pattern but the Note still has a pretty nice battery. The speakers are much better in the iPhone. But they are not bad on the Note.
And the gesture navigation on the XS is outstanding as is Face ID. I miss this two things very much when using the Note
I have the exynos version and the snapdragon is said to be better on battery and speed
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Thank you so very much mate..
Just one last question.
How much truth do all this fuss about blurry photo hold ? is the device hardware/software really that bad at shooting moving objects? i hear that ppl cannot even get nice photos of grass/pet furr etc . that is my only gripe.
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I have not had any issues with taking pictures, as I stated I don't take pictures every day but I do take my fair share of them. I was recently in Southern Germany/Austria and Hungary for an extended trip and I took many photos without any problems using my Note exclusively. I do agree with easycure1974, the battery on the iphone xs max is better, I still have about 60 to 70% left in my Note at the end of the day but maybe 70-80% left on my iphone. Both are very good but the iphone has better battery management.
Thank the both of you very much.
To be honest XS MAX is the one i wanted, but the cost is very close to double of that of the note 9. and it definately is not 2x better.
Yet again , thank you. i will most probably just on the note wagon soon !
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Why is it that they will not slow down at all ?
In my experience all androids start to slow down after the 6-8 months mark.
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Well to be fair my S8 didn't slow down my S9 plus never lost a beat and never had a app crash n9 the best phone all the S9 plus good with the large battery brighter screen and a pen.
Had iPhone 6s iPhone 7 plus 8 and iPhone x and n9 for me is the whole package.
I've switched from the iPhone 7 plus to this phone and the difference is day and night. You cant even compare the two at all. My battery is insane. Background operations are managed very well to the point where my SOT hits 7.5-8 hours easily. This phone is literally the best phone you can buy now a days. The only thing I miss is iOS and it's cleaner design. I can't wait for the note 10. Options are endless on this phone. I've had literally zero issues for the 2 months I've had this phone. And now the android pie release this month will make it even better. You won't regret it if you're not hooked to the apple "ecosystem"
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I've switched from the iPhone 7 plus to this phone and the difference is day and night. You cant even compare the two at all. My battery is insane. Background operations are managed very well to the point where my SOT hits 7.5-8 hours easily. This phone is literally the best phone you can buy now a days. The only thing I miss is iOS and it's cleaner design. I can't wait for the note 10. Options are endless on this phone. I've had literally zero issues for the 2 months I've had this phone. And now the android pie release this month will make it even better. You won't regret it if you're not hooked to the apple "ecosystem"
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Nice ! Good to hear ! Battery backup is very important for me too !
Btw i am not wealthy enough to be "hooked" on the ecosystem
I mean i do buy music/apps/books alot, from itunes but the iPhone is about the only apple device i have (no watches,tablets,laptops,desktops,tv,routers etc).
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Nice ! Good to hear ! Battery backup is very important for me too !
Btw i am not wealthy enough to be "hooked" on the ecosystem
I mean i do buy music/apps/books alot, from itunes but the iPhone is about the only apple device i have (no watches,tablets,laptops,desktops,tv,routers etc).
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You'll love the battery life on this phone. And good on not being hooked. Same here. I never buy anything other products beside an iPhone every once in a while. But I always go back to android. This time this note is hooking me with its goodness. I don't even miss iPhone. ::highfive::
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You'll love the battery life on this phone. And good on not being hooked. Same here. I never buy anything other products beside an iPhone every once in a while. But I always go back to android. This time this note is hooking me with its goodness. I don't even miss iPhone. ::highfive::
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He would love the iPhone XS Max even more The battery on that is even better in real life usage and the camera is so much nicer. But Android and the Note is fun to use
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He would love the iPhone XS Max even more The battery on that is even better in real life usage and the camera is so much nicer. But Android and the Note is fun to use
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I'm sure. I just cant justify the $1100 for that phone.
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If you plan on taking pics of your furball babies you will be disappointed.
chris2busy said:
Thank you so very much mate..
Just one last question.
How much truth do all this fuss about blurry photo hold ? is the device hardware/software really that bad at shooting moving objects? i hear that ppl cannot even get nice photos of grass/pet furr etc . that is my only gripe.
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If you plan on taking pics of your furball babies you will be disappointed.
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Oh...well that is not good. so the lens is not capable of sharp pictures? e.g. it cannot shoot individual hair ?
Would a pic like the attached be impossible e.g? (the hair of pets is an example, it could likewise be same for strands of grass, hair of ppl in photos etc)
Something like that would come out not so good. There is a dedicated thread sub section about camera quality.
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Oh...well that is not good. so the lens is not capable of sharp pictures? e.g. it cannot shoot individual hair ?
Would a pic like the attached be impossible e.g? (the hair of pets is an example, it could likewise be same for strands of grass, hair of ppl in photos etc)
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I am thinking about switching phones from my OnePlus 9. I like my OP9, but it is very glitchy for what it is supposed to be and really the only thing that impresses me is the WarpCharge feature. I am very fond of smaller phones, such as the ZenFone 8. I haven't purchased an ASUS device at all before, not even a computer.
Who has it and do you think it is worth even considering? My daily use consists of social media, internet browsing, and watching videos. It is very rarely that I download a game and play it on mobile. I also prefer somewhat swift updates, but have been an avid Motorola user before and was perfectly fine with their update timings.
I'm also in the same boat however 'm using Nord now..not very much satisfied with it..Oneplus really lost its glory now a days . Also 'm looking for compact phones..ZF8 seems to be perfect..would like to hear from real users..
I'm on the same boat except I'm using Xiaomi Mi 9T. Zenfone 8 looks like a perfect phone but I heard the thermals are bad and it gets hot af, like really hot.
I have it and the only down side is standby drain. Even after a few system updates my drain is about 50-100% higher than my op6. It's gotten better since the first version, but still not great.
I love it's form factor, GUI fluidity, Asus apps are great.
I haven't played any games so I can't really say anything about thermals.. never felt any temperature build-up.
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I have it and the only down side is standby drain. Even after a few system updates my drain is about 50-100% higher than my op6. It's gotten better since the first version, but still not great.
I love it's form factor, GUI fluidity, Asus apps are great.
I haven't played any games so I can't really say anything about thermals.. never felt any temperature build-up.
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Does it last at least around 6-8 hours?
The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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How long does the battery last for you?
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The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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Awesome reply! I believe I will be purchasing it to replace my OP9.
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This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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When I said "not the best" I had two things in mind. First the backlight issue at 60 and 120 Hz. As for the second one, few days ago my Zf8 was on a desk together with my previous phone (Xperia 5 II). I think I had some web pages open on both at the time because the screens were mostly white. When I looked at them while standing and almost at a flat angle, I immediately noticed that the Xperia's screen was white as a sheet of paper, Zenfone's wasn't. I assumed the Xperia's screen can be viewed without distortion at wider angles.
I played one game which is locked at 30 FPS, CPU and GPU usage was 10-30%, temp stayed at 36-37C. Will try something more demanding and see if it can go over 40C during the weekend.
Edit: idle drain 0.5%/h, but Franco Kernel Manager shows 0.28% for some reason
Good topic to keep track of.
Right now i have a OnePlus 9 Pro and as i really like it I'm kind of done with big smartphones.
As i had the Pixel 5 before i was thinking about going back and then the ZenFone 8 came to my attention.
It's damn ugly but that's something that can be changed with a case or skin.
I'm in doubt about the camera's compared to the Pixel 5 but the reviews I've seen so far seems quite good, not the best but good and comparable to the OnePlus 9.
I also read that Asus's update policy is not very reliable.
Anyone can give their opinion about this parts?
Everything else about this phone seems really good!
After using the zenfone 8 and Pixel 5 I went for the Pixel 5 because of the insanely better battery life than on the zenfone 8
Zenfone 8 had a slightly better camera with gcam but overall I was more impressed with the Pixel 5
It is true that other phones may have better battery, the Mate 20 I have is much better but at the cost of unreliable smart devices connection.
I can't get 2 days of my normal usage out of any phone. If I go hiking and just have the phone with me the Zenfone will also last 2-3 days easily. For me 1 day is the requirement and Zenfone does it easily.
The cameras are really good and with gcam and the right settings in there it gives great, real to life pictures. The super wide camera has the same sensor as Pixel 5. The main and selfie are even better and newer.
And the main thing - here in Poland the Pixel is 290USD more expensive than Asus. At the same price I'd probably buy the Pixel as it is a more established brand and has better support.
People write here that ZF8 can be bad at getting updates but the initial month had 4 updates. Can't see anything wrong here.
If the ZF9 will be the same size and gets the flip camera I will 100% buy it.
Kemez said:
It is true that other phones may have better battery, the Mate 20 I have is much better but at the cost of unreliable smart devices connection.
I can't get 2 days of my normal usage out of any phone. If I go hiking and just have the phone with me the Zenfone will also last 2-3 days easily. For me 1 day is the requirement and Zenfone does it easily.
The cameras are really good and with gcam and the right settings in there it gives great, real to life pictures. The super wide camera has the same sensor as Pixel 5. The main and selfie are even better and newer.
And the main thing - here in EU the Pixel is 290USD more expensive than Asus. At the same price I'd probably buy the Pixel as it is a more established brand and has better support.
People write here that ZF8 can be bad at getting updates but the initial month had 4 updates. Can't see anything wrong here.
If the ZF9 will be the same size and gets the flip camera I will 100% buy it.
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Pixel has a different sensor for the ultra wide. For the others i can't comment on that but it seems they are at least very close to each when it comes to picture quality.
It's so strange that the price difference in the world is so big. Here in the Netherlands the zenfone 8 is more expensive compared to the Pixel 5.
I can't say much on the phone as I've not used one yet, but from my own research and a friend whose ordered one, I can give me opinion. The specs are great, I think it exceeds in every category, but the camera. I don't the camera is as good as it could be, and maybe even the screen. The 120hz is real nice though. It's all personal preference really. I'm a Samsung guy but have been trying other phones because, well, why not. I'm by far not an expert, but I most certainly will share my opinion with you. My friend did mention that his tends to get hot, really hot. Keep that in mind.
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Pixel has a different sensor for the ultra wide. For the others i can't comment on that but it seems they are at least very close to each when it comes to picture quality.
It's so strange that the price difference in the world is so big. Here in the Netherlands the zenfone 8 is more expensive compared to the Pixel 5.
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The wide camera sensor in ZF8 is the same as main in Pixel. At least I read that.
KaydenMcCurdyTech said:
I can't say much on the phone as I've not used one yet, but from my own research and a friend whose ordered one, I can give me opinion. The specs are great, I think it exceeds in every category, but the camera. I don't the camera is as good as it could be, and maybe even the screen. The 120hz is real nice though. It's all personal preference really. I'm a Samsung guy but have been trying other phones because, well, why not. I'm by far not an expert, but I most certainly will share my opinion with you. My friend did mention that his tends to get hot, really hot. Keep that in mind.
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Barely felt any heat so far. When exactly does it get hot for your friend?
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Undead_Son said:
Barely felt any heat so far. When exactly does it get hot for your friend?
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
And it can get burning hot, try it on any 3d game.
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
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Ah that explains it, thanks
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
And it can get burning hot, try it on any 3d game.
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That really riddles me. So there are non gaming phones that do not get hot in similar settings? Especially during summer?