Ugh. What have I done! (Battery issue) (Solved!) - Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh

Below is my original message. Here is the answer.
For those who have recently cracked open your phone for whatever reason (Battery/Screen replacement) Here are a few tips.
When removing the Wireless Charging from the battery (Which despite some tutorials saying you need to remove the battery completely for swapping out a screen you do not need to) be VERY VERY careful removing it! When you look at the battery there is a small part at the top that sticks to the battery. This is the battery temperature sensor. If this part gets ripped (In my case it did) or if it is not connected (Which is why one phone charged and the other did and then later on after removing it phone the phone completely thinking i didn't need it and it is just getting in my way) the phone can't get a temperature reading of the battery and WILL NOT CHARGE. This was my issue.
I had left the Wireless charging parts at my office so when i got here and figured what the hell i'll toss it back in and i looked at them i saw one was ripped! So i tossed the non ripped one back in and BAM went from 0 to 100% (while off) in an hour!
So there you have it.
So,
After my OEM screen busted towards the beginning of the year I have gone though 2 aftermarket screens. So rather than spending 100 on a new screen i bought a 32GB Turbo second hand. Was in great condition.
I went and last night swapped the two screen. Also swapped the battery to see if it was any better. So I went to bed and plugged it in like normal. When I got to work (40 minutes after unplugging it) it was at like 30%. So i though damn its a dud battery. I had the other phone with me so i swapped back. When i got back to my office I plugged my phone into my turbo charger and it says its charging.
When i went to unplug it to leave i saw that the low battery notification came on. It didn't charge at all. Battery was cold, charger was cold (always get hot when charging). The other phone also charges slowly on this turbo charger (It charged fast last night on my charger at home. I have had both chargers for a long time with no issues before). Battery was 0% when i got the phone and had a 50% charge in 30 minutes. I swapped the batteries back and same thing. So right now i'm using the 32GB (It has a locked BL so can't really use it yet unless i really have to) to charge my battery, then just keep my tools on me and swap and change again. I took out the wireless charging part to have less in my way. Also if i have it plugged it it does discharge less/stay at the same %.
The only other thing I can think of is i did clean out the USB port. It was jammed pack with pocket lint. uses some tweezers and canned air to clean it.
If anyone got some insight let me know. Otherwise i'll have to wait and see if jcase can get sunshine to work on the latest 6.0.1 (Sent him an email to see if i can test it as he was asking for volunteers

So now the 32Gb as of last night will not charge either. The screen though (my old screen that was still working) cracked and it just a black screen with some random pixels that light up. When i last looked at it last night I saw that it still wouldn't charge even when turned off (stuck at 11%). It has been on for almost 12 hours and it is still on so maybe that one is charging again i dont know.
My 64GB will at least stay at its battery % as long as it is plugged into a Turbo Charger. Other chargers just slow down the discharge. I installed the App Ampere and when i plug it it is says nothing about charging and that it is just discharging. When i plug in the phone it just says Power Connected. Nothing about charging. I'll try swapping the screens and see if the 32Gb is charging. if so i'll just use that for now.

drtweak said:
So now the 32Gb as of last night will not charge either. The screen though (my old screen that was still working) cracked and it just a black screen with some random pixels that light up. When i last looked at it last night I saw that it still wouldn't charge even when turned off (stuck at 11%). It has been on for almost 12 hours and it is still on so maybe that one is charging again i dont know.
My 64GB will at least stay at its battery % as long as it is plugged into a Turbo Charger. Other chargers just slow down the discharge. I installed the App Ampere and when i plug it it is says nothing about charging and that it is just discharging. When i plug in the phone it just says Power Connected. Nothing about charging. I'll try swapping the screens and see if the 32Gb is charging. if so i'll just use that for now.
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I just replaced QI charging coil my phone is now charging properly with my original 64 GB motherboard. Battery and Cpu or now registering normal temperatures.

drtweak said:
So now the 32Gb as of last night will not charge either. The screen though (my old screen that was still working) cracked and it just a black screen with some random pixels that light up. When i last looked at it last night I saw that it still wouldn't charge even when turned off (stuck at 11%). It has been on for almost 12 hours and it is still on so maybe that one is charging again i dont know.
My 64GB will at least stay at its battery % as long as it is plugged into a Turbo Charger. Other chargers just slow down the discharge. I installed the App Ampere and when i plug it it is says nothing about charging and that it is just discharging. When i plug in the phone it just says Power Connected. Nothing about charging. I'll try swapping the screens and see if the 32Gb is charging. if so i'll just use that for now.
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Color me curious, but if charging becomes disabled due to an erroneous input from a sensor, does that mean there is a way to modify the programming to place a set value for the temperature or bypass that value entirely? Not as a permanent solution, but a temporary solution for a dummy like me that tore his Qi cable and can't find a new one quickly or easily. It is worth mentioning my turbo is completely factory. Or on the off hand someone might know where I can find a qi cable... yeah, I screwed up.

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I recently replaced the LCD/ Screen on my OG turbo and after having replaced it the phone will not charge. After searching the internet and checking the phone I am convinced that a small rip in the ribbon cable of the Qi charger is responsible, now since I don't have another whole or intact Qi I ordered the only one I could find which was from a Chinese seller on eBay. From what I can tell this should be a fairly straight forward and simple replacement to fix the issue, but I can't find any YouTube guides on this specific repair so I'm hoping that I am correctly understanding the issue and how to fix it.
I should be able to open the phone, remove the old Qi, plug in the new one, close the phone... problem fixed ? Right ?

I also have the same issue, it shows 22f and shows electricity in battery icon but says not charging in battery settings. Most probably charges in bootloader/recovery, but what is different is that my temperature sensor is perfectly fine as far as I know. Also, my speaker isn't working too. Guess I'm too bad a repairman.
Any help?

I seem to have the same problem, though I can't see any visible damage to the charging coil. The phone is charging only while in twrp, but it only charges till about 70 or 71 percent. Did anyone else have that?

js101 said:
I seem to have the same problem, though I can't see any visible damage to the charging coil. The phone is charging only while in twrp, but it only charges till about 70 or 71 percent. Did anyone else have that?
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Damnit I guess this is solving my currenty issue right there.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/one-using-droid-turbo-2018-t3756458/page4
So what can I do?

M_w_B said:
Damnit I guess this is solving my currenty issue right there.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/one-using-droid-turbo-2018-t3756458/page4
So what can I do?
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I have ordered a new coil and will report back when I put it in. I'm not sure though exactly how to install it. Just stick it in there?

SirChunkers said:
Color me curious, but if charging becomes disabled due to an erroneous input from a sensor, does that mean there is a way to modify the programming to place a set value for the temperature or bypass that value entirely? Not as a permanent solution, but a temporary solution for a dummy like me that tore his Qi cable and can't find a new one quickly or easily. It is worth mentioning my turbo is completely factory. Or on the off hand someone might know where I can find a qi cable... yeah, I screwed up.
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I would like to help here, but I don't know where to search for these settings.
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js101 said:
I have ordered a new coil and will report back when I put it in. I'm not sure though exactly how to install it. Just stick it in there?
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Yes, and make sure you can attach it well. Either through pressure, or sticking material.

M_w_B said:
I would like to help here, but I don't know where to search for these settings.
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Yes, and make sure you can attach it well. Either through pressure, or sticking material.
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So I received the new coil and I put it in my phone. Lo and behold it works perfectly! I found a tiny crack on the old pad on one of the temperature sensor lines right in the corner where it enters in to the tab that connects to the phone. Hope this helps.

What does the battery sensor look like?

It's been two months I was investigating on the same problem... My phone was always showing -30.2°C / -22,36°F and, indeed, the sensor wire was cut off. Thank you so much!!
treycolo18 said:
What does the battery sensor look like?
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Here is a picture (source : iFixit), the sensor is in dicated by a red arrow.

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tilt totally dead, cannot recharge, cannot turn on, help.

hi, new member here.
bought my tilt on 10/4/07. has been flawless since that time.
used the nav quite a bit during a road trip, used a cig lighter usb charger.
got home and my battery was at roughly 40%.
put it on the charger at night went to sleep. in morning disconnected it at 8 am. shortly after i arrived at work i got the critical battery low chime. checked and it had like 7% battery life.
figured i didnt plug it in right, or it got knocked loose some how and didnt get charged.
put it in flight mode to minimize battery usage. left work at 2 30 pm (4% battery life) and put it on the car charger. got home and put it on the HTC supplied wall charger. light turned amber, so i assumed it was charging.
checked an hour later and turned phone on, it said 0%, and immediately died. left it on the charger for a few hours and the light was still amber, turned it back on and again 0% and phone immediately died and did a soft reset on its own. i turned the phone off and left it on the ac charger, took out the sim card and put it in an old blackberry to use while the battery was charging.
its been on the ac wall charger for the last several hours, i checked and the phone is totally dead, cannot turn it on, and the LED at the top is now RED.
what is the problem here? why wont this thing charge?
thanks in advance, i have alot of critical info on this device and any help would be greatly appreciated.
i cannot hard reset because i cannot turn the flippign thing on....
Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
I'd try a different charger first. If that makes no difference then a different battery. If that still does not make any difference then time to exchange it.
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Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
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connected to either the computer or the wall charger, the LED thats normally amber when charging, and green when charged, remains red.
I had something very similar happen to my wizard.
And as weird as it sounds, the only fix was to charge the battery in a friends wizard on his charger. I'd check the battery if possible.
Could be the battery. Know any place or anyone that will let you try a charged battery? If not, you might have to go in to an AT&T store.
i think i got it working. did some reading/browsing...
took a usb wire and cut the mini usb head off. dissected it and found the the red and black charging wires. took out the battery and held the leads to teh battery while the other end was plugged into a USB/AC adapter wall charger from a old blackberry. after manually charging the battery for several minutes, i put the battery back in the phone and the phone started up. now it seems to be charging off the wall charger and the led is now amber from red.
thanks for all your help/suggestions.
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
tiltyoself said:
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
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Repeat this proceedure but this time do not turn the phone on, just plug it in to the wall charger once you have zapped the battery again.
Turning your phone on probably just caused the already recovering battery to die whiles it is trying to take on a charge.
It is mentioned quite a lot on the boards that Li-Ion Batteries do not like being over disscharged and there is usually a little protection circuit in the battery to provent complete disscharging although this circuit may be on board the phone. Completely disscharging a Li-Ion cell will kill it stone dead and it will need replacing.
When you took the battery out and so called jump started it with your flying leads, this possibly reset the little protection circuit in the battery so it can now take on a charge. I feel that once you turned on the phone, this was to much for the already depleted cell to take and possibly re-tripped its inbuilt circuit.
If you do manage to recover you cell, in future it is good practice not to let the battery go below about 25%. Li-ion cells are generally happy being top off regularly.
I hope this helps buddy
Do let us know!
Cheers
C.
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
That Sucks! I hope they'll give you a new battery.
tiltyoself said:
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
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I had exactly the same problem with my battery. It came on though after a day. Although the battery life after this happened went down to 10hrs max on standby. I sent the phone back and got a new one and now all is fine.
This is a problem that affects almost all makes of phone. There are three (main) causes of the problem:
1.
The battery charge drops too low to allow the charging circuit to recognise a battery is even in place (red no charge light stays lit)
possible solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...22&postcount=6
(in the end very similar in the end to the USB wire used in post above)
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A faulty battery (but if you can charge it using a cut usb cable or using a couple of AA batteries this may not be a faulty battery.
3.
A faulty charger OR a charger not delivering 5v at 1000mA as the OEM one does. Many chargers that are used for other phones or generic chargers only deliver 500mA. This is not enough when your battery drops very low. (these chargers are OK for occasional use but I do not advise using them regularly particularly if the no-charge syndrome has shown itself)
4.
A faulty USB connection on the phone. I have now seen a couple of reports where the fine wire connections in the phones USB port have become bent out of place.
Number 4 above is at least possible for the OP as it seems the battery will charge using a cut USB cable but not when either the PC USB cable or mains charger is connected. A USB port on the phone with a a bent internal contact would explain what's happening.
A previous poster was able with a needle or similar to bend the contact back into place.
Mike
i had the same problem with my phone.
put it in the charger overnight and woke up in the morning and couldnt turn on the phone with blinking red light. I don't know if my battery was over-drained though. I went to AT&T and was playing around with their charger and new battery and somehow the so-called dead battery started working again. They changed the SIM card on my phone there and then i haven't been able to use the phone since. I've changed the network to GSM instead of Auto setting under Phone Options which allows us to make calls; but now I can't connect to 3G network.
Charging thru mini usb
My phone started to exhibit similar problems...plugged in but no charging of the battery. I finally realized that my mini usb connection on the phone has been compromised (bent, distorted=not functioning properly) Now I have to prop the mini usb connection up at a slight angle to engage the charge. I think the plastic/metallic connector on the phone is somewhat fragile ...I had similar issues with my hermes.
called customer support.
they are sending me a new phone and battery.
how do i know its not a refurbished one? any clues?
before u send out your defect phone, have u check if your phone's mini-USB connector has bent or misaligned pins?
yeah all the connectors visually are fine.

Series of Unfortunate Events!!

Ok where do I begin. I love this phone but it's driving me nuts and that's supposed to be your girlfriend/wifes job. My phone seems to be charging EXTREMELY slow. I have batterystatus installed on my phone and when the phone is charging you see the progress bar moving. I've been charging my phone for about 2 1/2 hours now and I'm only at 57 percent, not even using it or having email come to my phone. I'm coming to the conclusion that my battery is shot and I will have to get a new one. Last night I was using my phone and it was charging by my bed. I wake up this morning and the orange LED is on (indicating that it's charging) I'm like wtf it should be green because I've slept for 8 HOURS! I unhook the phone and the battery is at 0 percent and the phone just shuts off on me. I charge the phone and managed to get it to 25 percent before leaving for work. Right now I have my phone plugged into the wall and its taking forever to charge. Should I reflash my ROM and RADIO again. I've been holding off on buying an extended battery because I'm waiting for Seido 3000 Mah Battery.
It's a cheaper option to reflash before spending the money on a new batt.
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Ok where do I begin. I love this phone but it's driving me nuts and that's supposed to be your girlfriend/wifes job. My phone seems to be charging EXTREMELY slow. I have batterystatus installed on my phone and when the phone is charging you see the progress bar moving. I've been charging my phone for about 2 1/2 hours now and I'm only at 57 percent, not even using it or having email come to my phone. I'm coming to the conclusion that my battery is shot and I will have to get a new one. Last night I was using my phone and it was charging by my bed. I wake up this morning and the orange LED is on (indicating that it's charging) I'm like wtf it should be green because I've slept for 8 HOURS! I unhook the phone and the battery is at 0 percent and the phone just shuts off on me. I charge the phone and managed to get it to 25 percent before leaving for work. Right now I have my phone plugged into the wall and its taking forever to charge. Should I reflash my ROM and RADIO again. I've been holding off on buying an extended battery because I'm waiting for Seido 3000 Mah Battery.
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i know that some radios will eat up ur battery and cause rapid drainage, however i can't conclude that as no idea what rom/radio u r using. i doubt if flashing new rom is gona help. flash a different compatible radio and c if that helps; if not ur sol and probably need new battery.
peace,
sire
You could try putting the phone in flight mode to rule out a radio problem. Assuming no running programs in memory I would conclude a battery or charging circuit issue. I assume both mains charger and USB have been tried.
Ensure battery contacts are clean and the contacts on the phone.
You could try the wiggling the battery on and off the phone contacts method as used for the RLOD issue, just in case the charging circuit needs a kick start. The only note of caution here is that there are two cases (to my knowledge) of this trick possibly causing the rasdio to fail. So if I was trying this I would certainly have it in flight mode first - it is afterall a very crude method of forcing pulses of charge through the circuit.
Mike
I've been using Schaps 4.31 (only rom I have ever flashed, very satisfied with it)
Radio: 1.27.15.32
Problem just started 2 days ago. I tried plugging into another outlet thinking that maybe there was a problem with the outlet I was using and the same thing happens.
I feel like my kaiser is on life support, it hurts. I have to keep it plugged in to have it not die on me. I bought this from a friend 3 months ago for $250 but my Carrier AT&T and my EMPLOYER will not replace it because you can't have a transfer in warranty if you buy it from a friend. I think it's BS but w/e. If not I would have sent it in and got a refurbished one. Any other ideas
Hi gqstatus0685
I had an issue like this years ago. I had no friends who had the same phone so I took it into a store to test it.
You will need YOUR phone / battery AND charger and try it as follows:
1. THEIR charger with YOUR battery (if it works your charger may be broken but your battery is probably fine - if it doesnt work your battery or phone could be at fault)
2. THEIR charger with THEIR battery (this should work - if it doesnt your phone may be faulty)
3. YOUR charger with THEIR battery (again this should work, if not, your charger is probably at fault)
Let us know how you get on.
Cheers
Zippyioa
gqstatus0685 said:
I've been using Schaps 4.31 (only rom I have ever flashed, very satisfied with it)
Radio: 1.27.15.32
Problem just started 2 days ago. I tried plugging into another outlet thinking that maybe there was a problem with the outlet I was using and the same thing happens.
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First off, let me state that if you are having possible battery issues where you can't charge, I'd be VERY careful of trying to flash anything else. During the flashing process the phone will not charge. So if the battery goes dead during the minute or so it takes to do this, you will probably brick your device (or at best, not have a bootable phone that will not charge anymore since it can't boot).
This does sound like a hardware issue though. Either your charging circuit is shot, or your battery has died... Definetly try out zippyioa's advice to try to determine what isn't working.
BTW: Does it charge better or differently with USB cable vs the wall charger?
Also since you mention having BatteryStatus installed, turn on the indicator that shows the power. When its charging, what does it show for mA? When its not charging, what does this show?
All of a sudden my phone started to charge again. It charges very slow with wall power kind of like the way it's supposed to charge when connected to USB. Quoate me if I'm wrong but USB charge is slower than wall charge. I noticed that the Orange indicator will be lit noting that it's charging but then all of a sudden the indicator disappears and I have to unhook USB and re-plug it again. That's probably the reason why it's dead when I wake up in the morning. I don't touch the cable or move anything it just stops charging. I also noticed that when I get a missed call, SmS, MMS message it will stop charging unless I dismiss the messages. I haven't really confirmed this but I will. Thanks for the advice guys. You guys are the best.
I'm glad you are up and running again. These things do come and go occassionaly.
You are correct with your view on charging. A USB charge from my PC takes much longer than my wall charger.
Seems odd that your phone stops charging if you get an SMS.
It sounds like something is definitely wrong - a re-flash MAY help BUT as mfrazzz said above I would be very careful as a lack of power during a flash could cause MAJOR issues for you.
Have you managed to get the power back up to 100% yet?
If so, does it hold charge when you unplug it?
If not, what happens if you leave it on charge (I would put in flight mode as Mike suggested above to avoid call/SMS interuptions)
Cheers
Zippyioa
gqstatus0685 said:
All of a sudden my phone started to charge again. It charges very slow with wall power kind of like the way it's supposed to charge when connected to USB. Quoate me if I'm wrong but USB charge is slower than wall charge. I noticed that the Orange indicator will be lit noting that it's charging but then all of a sudden the indicator disappears and I have to unhook USB and re-plug it again. That's probably the reason why it's dead when I wake up in the morning. I don't touch the cable or move anything it just stops charging. I also noticed that when I get a missed call, SmS, MMS message it will stop charging unless I dismiss the messages. I haven't really confirmed this but I will. Thanks for the advice guys. You guys are the best.
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If the light ghoes out after charging awhile, then you have most likely damaged the USB port with clumsy hands while trying to reset. Take a look at the USB Port. If it is even slightly curved or lower on the right side even by only a mm. then I'm right. This can cause a bad connection & occasionally can be fixed by gently bending at back into shape. HTC uses two different USB ports on the Kaiser, this is easier to fix on the open ended type, but because it is weaker, it's also easier to break, so be careful.
By default the USB port pin block is arrow straight.
My usb port was f**** up, I bent it back into place and it charges now.
I installed battery meter and when not plugged in I'm displaying:
6% I guess that's CPU usage
29.8 degrees/84 degree Fahrenheit have no idea what that is
87mA It fluctuates the lowest I've seen it was at 60 mA/Highest being 437mA
I'm going to add that my Kaiser has the HTC home plugin and battery meter. I only have one push email acct for my GMAIL. I don't get alot of emails on there. Mostly ones I send myself like files and such. No programs running in the background.
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Ok my phone has been charging all night. I wake up this morning and the charging indicator is orange when it should be green. I unhook the phone and Boom phone turns off. My phone is completely dead. I've been charging my phone for a while now (4-5 hours) and my phone is stuck at 57% does not move up. I'm leaning toward a battery problem. I'm going to put my phone in flight mode to further confirm.
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Ok my phone has been charging all night. I wake up this morning and the charging indicator is orange when it should be green. I unhook the phone and Boom phone turns off. My phone is completely dead. I've been charging my phone for a while now (4-5 hours) and my phone is stuck at 57% does not move up. I'm leaning toward a battery problem. I'm going to put my phone in flight mode to further confirm.
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That doesn't sound too good!
Have you tried the tests I suggested above (using store charger/battery)?
Zippyioa
I forgot to add and I'm sorry that about a month ago I had my wall charger in my pocket and it fell into the toilet. I still works maybe thats' what's causing the prob. It was working fine after I dried it off and let it sit.
LOL, I would bet a lot of money that is your problem, try a new AC adapter before you buy a new battery.
yeah I'll try to buy another one and see if that fixes my problem. I mean why would it happen now all of a sudden. By the way I just happened to walk by the toilet and it fell in. I had it in my hoody pocket. Don't keep things there they fall easily like my first Kaiser..RIP 2007-2007
gqstatus0685 said:
I forgot to add and I'm sorry that about a month ago I had my wall charger in my pocket and it fell into the toilet. I still works maybe thats' what's causing the prob. It was working fine after I dried it off and let it sit.
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Thats definitely not good! Even if it dried out fully the water could have partially damaged the internal circuits. It may have taken time for the charger to go completely.
As I have suggested several times, you need to try another charge/battery!
Do you have a car charger or a friend with the same phone?
Zippyioa
Yeah. I have a car charger I bought from Ebay. Was hesitant on trying since I heard they fry phones. Tomorrow morning I'll go to store and test out my battery and plug. Hopefully it works. Wish me luck

kaiser is DEAD, att refuses replacement

so pretty much we had a blackout on campus and my phone was low on battery. to salvage my laptop's battery, i used the USB charger on the phone while the laptop was closed and barely even booted up (did not "log in" to windows). so, later in the night my battery went dead, and i'm sure my turning it on and off 15 times with a empty battery just to see the home screen did not help.
next day, I plug in the charger and get the RED LIGHT!!!
i give the phone "CPR" and plug it back in the charger to get an amber light a few minutes later. The phone eventually charged to 30% before i took it out with me to lunch, when I got back I plugged it back in and now it would would not charge at all. the battery % would just gradually decrease.
i tried cleaning the battery connections with alcohol and im pretty sure this made the sticker turn pink (means "water damage"), and att wont give mea new one because of this.
anything i can do?
PS- i never got the red light back since i "fixed" it the first time, now i need to plug it in to turn the phone on and even then it turns off after 2-4 minutes by itself!!! If plugged into wall charger without a battery i just get a red flashing light. with batter, a constant amber.
Take it into a store and try swapping out the battery temporarily with one from the one in the store - if it works then purchase a new battery?
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not an option, dont have any stores by me and have no car .
***update - i did use the usb charge trick but splitting the wires and connecting to the battery for 5 or so minutes.. it got up to 17% but is now going back down even though its plugged into the wall charger
Did they ask you if the sticker was pink? Did you yell at a manager or something. Just because the sticker is that color doesn't mean there is damage.
If the sticker is not the default color, they won't warranty the phone. That's just how it is. Someone might get lucky and they do it anyway, but in general that's their policy.
Why else would the plaster the stupid things in 6+ places in/on the phone?
I still don't buy the "I got it wet cleaning the contacts" part myself. But the overall story seems unfortunately common for the Kaiser (other phones too?) with it deciding to die after the battery gets too low. Most people have decided it's not the battery that fails and even if they get the phone to charge, it does not work properly afterwords.
I think HTC should take some responsibility here.
OK, I finally got to try a seperate battery and the charger still would not charge the battery (the charger used was also a new one). What can I do!? Should I buy a parted one from ebay and replace something?
theromanone said:
and replace something?
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The whole mainboard...
is that possible, something anyone could do themselves?
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The whole mainboard...
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wow, i hope it is not that!
anyone else have suggestions on how to fix my kaiser?
-better yet, any successful repairs of this? thanks!
this is old and all, but i finally now have another kaiser to fool around and part out.. any suggestions?
well first off if there is truely water damage and not just a freek bricking then i would try the rice trick first, simply place the phone on a box of rice for a week (or silica gel). not u can not reflash the device because u can not get a 50% charge correct? it almost sounds if the battery is dieing that quickly that u have a short somewhere in the phone cuasing the displacment of energy, also i know that i had a phone a while back (not an htc) but it would only take a charge from a car charger, so try possible expermenting with USB/WALL/CAR chargers. if i were u i probably wouldnt take the phone completely apart unless u are sure that neither the original or the parts phone can be used as anything more than a paper weight.
on an un-related subject if ur looking for a replacment i have a tilt i am looking to sell if u want to pm me we could negotiate a price.
thanks for the reply, i ended up leaving it in the wall charger overnight, and if charged up to 17%, so it is working, i'll try other methods as well.
if it bombs, i'm sure you'll be receiving a pm very soon!
theromanone said:
i ended up leaving it in the wall charger overnight, and if charged up to 17%, so it is working
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I've cleaned the battery terminals and spring contacts many times on my TyTN II and not had this problem since. The key is to use a cotton bud sprayed with contact cleaner/IPA to rub the contact cleaner on/off and not spray it around the area directly. If a cotton bud isn't used as well as the contact cleaner/IPA then much of the grime wont be cleaned off. This still sounds like a conductivity issue to me.
still not clear what you think happened...
in any case, using a FULLY CHARGED BATTERY (charge it using something else, or just jimmy rig to the battery terminals for a while), does the Tilt function properly ? If so, then the most it can be is the charging circuit of the Tilt. Worse case, get one of those charging cradles and charge your battery on that instead (a pain, but cheaper than replacing a Tilt)...
in other words, I wouldn't give up just yet, given what it sounds like has happened...
does the tilt function when plugged into a powered USB port ?

[Q] Stock Nook: Battery too low to power ON.

Ok so this nook was bought brand new in December 2010 For my mother In-law. She hasn't used it much. So I asked if I could put Android on it? She said sure cause she hasn't used it at all. As a matter of fact the NC was totally dead when she gave it to me. So I get back to my house and put it on the stock charger. I let it charge for 2 hours. I picked it up and turn it on and all I see is this message: Battery too low to power ON. I did a search and turned up similar problems but the nc where all rooted. I'm wondering if other people have had this same problem? And what they did to solve this as it is more then likely an easy fix. A. Take it back to the store and exchange it. Or. B. Send it off for repairs. C. Someone On XDA has the answer.
Also I've done some trouble shooting like trying to reset it. Also I've used 3 Other chargers and its still not charging or turning on.
Edit: It turns on it just stays at the screen with a red battery displaying the message in the title. Also after charging for a while the screen kind of lites up like its going to turn on but only goes black after that and then comes back to the same red battery screen.
jvillejoe said:
Ok so this nook was bought brand new in December 2010 For my mother In-law. She hasn't used it much. So I asked if I could put Android on it? She said sure cause she hasn't used it at all. As a matter of fact the NC was totally dead when she gave it to me. So I get back to my house and put it on the stock charger. I let it charge for 2 hours. I picked it up and turn it on and all I see is this message: Battery too low to power ON. I did a search and turned up similar problems but the nc where all rooted. I'm wondering if other people have had this same problem? And what they did to solve this as it is more then likely an easy fix. A. Take it back to the store and exchange it. Or. B. Send it off for repairs. C. Someone On XDA has the answer.
Also I've done some trouble shooting like trying to reset it. Also I've used 3 Other chargers and its still not charging or turning on.
Edit: It turns on it just stays at the screen with a red battery displaying the message in the title. Also after charging for a while the screen kind of lites up like its going to turn on but only goes black after that and then comes back to the same red battery screen.
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what are you charging from? are you using the stock nook cable and plug?
Yes. And charging it from the wall outlet. Did that with the stock charger. my charger from my HD2 and also tried with the charger from my vibrant. All have the same affect. It has the red battery and the messege below and it also has been a total of 6 hours of charging 2 hours each with the all the chargers.
That stinks. You may have to contact B&N for it. If your using the stock and other chargers then it must be a battery failure.
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That stinks. You may have to contact B&N for it. If your using the stock and other chargers then it must be a battery failure.
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Yeah seems to me thats what it must be I'll post back what I find out.
When that message is displayed, try holding the power button for 30+ seconds and then turning it back on.
That has worked for me the couple of times it seemed stuck on that screen.
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When that message is displayed, try holding the power button for 30+ seconds and then turning it back on.
That has worked for me the couple of times it seemed stuck on that screen.
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Nope its not working at all. I was wondering is there an SD card that come with the NC bought brand new from B & N?
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Yes. And charging it from the wall outlet. Did that with the stock charger. my charger from my HD2 and also tried with the charger from my vibrant. All have the same affect. It has the red battery and the messege below and it also has been a total of 6 hours of charging 2 hours each with the all the chargers.
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If you're using other chargers, it's possible that you've damages the usb port. The NC uses a non standard usb port, which has two stages. The first stage is standard 5 pin uusb communication, the second stage is non-standard 12 pin charging...
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Non-Standard chargers...
As far as I can tell it works fine with any microusb cord.
Their charger cables break...(bend and break) very easy. I have gone through 2.
The upside is that their charger provides power far faster than the normal microusb cords.
At this point...I'm charging mine almost exclusively from my stock evo cord.
If you don't turn off the screen when charging...it may not have enough power coming in to actually build a charge without their cable.
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If you're using other chargers, it's possible that you've damages the usb port. The NC uses a non standard usb port, which has two stages. The first stage is standard 5 pin uusb communication, the second stage is non-standard 12 pin charging...
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I never used another charger besides the stock charger that came with the NC. Up until this happened all that was ever used was the stock cable for charging. I only used another charging cable once I ran into these problems cause I figured the cable was damaged. Its happened to me before with other devices. But the same results happen with every cord I use. When I plug it in it lights up and shows the red battery screen. So that tells me that the cord or USB port couldn't be the problem. Cause its clearly getting power its just not charging.
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As far as I can tell it works fine with any microusb cord.
Their charger cables break...(bend and break) very easy. I have gone through 2.
The upside is that their charger provides power far faster than the normal microusb cords.
At this point...I'm charging mine almost exclusively from my stock evo cord.
If you don't turn off the screen when charging...it may not have enough power coming in to actually build a charge without their cable.
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When charging I can not turn the screen off it's stuck on the screen with a red battery.
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Nope its not working at all. I was wondering is there an SD card that come with the NC bought brand new from B & N?
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No. They sell it without one...the 8GB internal storage is enough for looooottts of books. The microsd was just a nice + for people with lots and lots of music.
I had this issue as well, but I found a fix!
No matter what I did or how long I let it charge, it would always have that red low battery icon.
What I ended up doing to fix it was opening up the back of the unit and disconnecting the battery cable from the unit. I then plugged it directly into the wall without the battery connected to see if it would boot, though I don't know if that was necessary, I don't even remember if it booted that way or not.. I think it did not.
Anyway I unplugged the power cable again, reconnected the battery, then plugged in the power cable and tried to boot and it booted up perfectly after that. The battery icon indicated 13% charge, but it quickly charged back up just fine.
FYI I left the unit in the car overnight right before this happened, and it was pretty chilly that night, 10-20 degreed Fahrenheit. I suspect that caused the issue for some reason, so I've been sure not to do so since.
P.S. I had to do a fair amount of googling around before I found good instructions on taking apart the NC. I think I had to take off the 2 screws under the SD card slot and use a butter knife to just pry the back off. It's just held in with clips and you can't tell it was opened except for the little stickers over the screw holes.
bstock said:
I had this issue as well, but I found a fix!
No matter what I did or how long I let it charge, it would always have that red low battery icon.
What I ended up doing to fix it was opening up the back of the unit and disconnecting the battery cable from the unit. I then plugged it directly into the wall without the battery connected to see if it would boot, though I don't know if that was necessary, I don't even remember if it booted that way or not.. I think it did not.
Anyway I unplugged the power cable again, reconnected the battery, then plugged in the power cable and tried to boot and it booted up perfectly after that. The battery icon indicated 13% charge, but it quickly charged back up just fine.
FYI I left the unit in the car overnight right before this happened, and it was pretty chilly that night, 10-20 degreed Fahrenheit. I suspect that caused the issue for some reason, so I've been sure not to do so since.
P.S. I had to do a fair amount of googling around before I found good instructions on taking apart the NC. I think I had to take off the 2 screws under the SD card slot and use a butter knife to just pry the back off. It's just held in with clips and you can't tell it was opened except for the little stickers over the screw holes.
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Thanks for the feed back. I'm wondering by un-pluging the battery from the nook if it resets it. Kind of like if a phone freezes or if your computer freezes and you pull the battery. Seems like a plan. Not sure if this is what I'll do as I'm sure its still under warranty. If it comes back and its not covered or B & N wont replace it I guess thats my only hope.
im having the same problem as well it was off for a while and now its at the red batter screen. i guess ill try and take it apart?
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im having the same problem as well it was off for a while and now its at the red batter screen. i guess ill try and take it apart?
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If your not worried about voiding the warranty then sure I guess its worth a shot.
So I got it fixed right. All it was was a faulty cable lol!
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So I got it fixed right. All it was was a faulty cable lol!
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I had this problem too, but I'm not sure "faulty" is the right word for the cable.
My friend borrowed my nook and returned it with a dead battery (Thanks asshole). So I plugged it into my computer at work and just got the always-on low battery message. After 45 minutes I took it to my car so I wouldn't forget it. I plugged it into my USB charger in the car using a different cable. Two hours later, same state.
When I got home I pugged it into the Nook wall charger with yet another cable (not the nook's original) and got the same thing. I searched here to see if I could figure out what was going on and decided to try the original cable with the wall plug. literally two seconds after plugging it in it started booting into Froyo.
I'm sure I didn't have four "faulty" cables. I think those that are saying you should be using the original are correct. The others worked fine when the battery wasn't empty, but mine only responded to the original once it got to the point of the unending low-battery message.
Original charger / cable required with totally empty battery
Same here. With battery completely empty and non standard cable,stuck at red battery sign forever. With orginal cable, boots fine and charges.
solution I found
Have CM7 installed on SDCard, got the battery icon, even with the unit plugged into the charger with oem equipment. Held the power button 'til the unit turned off completely, removed the sdcard, rebooted. Nook booted into stock fine, turned off, re-inserted sdcard and rebooted. All is well.

Nexus 6 No Power No Charge, 3 days after using N Preview

My phones been dead for about a month, most hope was given up but heres my last ditch. I updated to android N preview. Used it like normal. The last day (before my phone ate ****) i was having problems charging it. It wasnt accepting the charge almost as if my "Quickcharge 2.0" had stopped. In fact it would discharge while connected to turbo charger. Anyways that day i went swimming, where i live its very hot i left it on the charger near the pool and it had gotten super hot. So i took it off and put it in a chair and it was on again super hot (hot enough that it burnt my hand when i touched the glass) and it was still on it hadnt shut off. Some people there put it in their cooler for me and that was that, although i noticed a burn mark on the actual usb port on the phone itself. Fast forward a few hours. I was skyping some chick got off skype. Turned my phone off in the hopes it would charge faster. ( it was at 13%) plugged it into the charger, Nothing. Tried to turn it on, Nothing. I finally got it to boot up ( i had to press the **** out of the power button) and the google logo came up. Then it turned off. Tried again to power it on. Same thing, google logo dead. Left it on the wall charger for an hour. tried to power it up, nothing. Used a samsung wireless charger on it for close to 3 hours. Tried to power it up. Still nothing. Power + Vol Down. Nope nada. Opened it up checked the wires everything was plugged in and secure. I didnt make it any further than the backplate because i stripped the screws. Since then its just sat on my shelf, but today i dropped it on my foot and i decieded to see if it would turn on, so i plugged it into my pc (and this is honestly the reason im writing this) and i wiggled the charger around and my pc actually "sensed" it. It said that "The usb device has malfunctioned" so idk what that means. Maybe its still there maybe not. Ik that if i can get my pc to recognize it again it will be difficult as that port on the phone is on its LAST leg.
Let me know what you guys think. Sorry for the short story. Just want to make sure you know everything as it happened
Also when i plug it into the wall, or use the Qi charger on it the device heats up/gets warm. Again dont know if its anything but the more the better.
Could be anything really, possibly a bad battery, if the QI charger isn't helping. How old is the device, and when did the usb burn mark appear?
Okay so I am going to give my best guess here, that the battery in your phone has gone bad, and it was killed by your charger going bad with an electrical short circuit.
Here is my reasons for think that...
Currently your phone won't accept a charge at all, so that leads me to believe that the battery has gone bad.
As for my suspicion that your charger went bad, I have had two different quality brand chargers (HTC and Samsung) go bad on me over the last 3 years or so.
Both times the charger failures caused the same symptoms on my phone that you described...the phone getting extremely hot, and the battery discharging, while connected to the charger, instead of charging.
Luckily for me, in both cases, my phone batteries did not completely croak.
In one case the battery did bulge out the phone, but it was an older HTC M7 and it kept working.
In the other case, I noticed that hot phone and the discharging, and immediately unplugged the charger and tossed it in the trash.
So that is just my two-cents.
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Okay so I am going to give my best guess here, that the battery in your phone has gone bad, and it was killed by your charger going bad with an electrical short circuit.
Here is my reasons for think that...
Currently your phone won't accept a charge at all, so that leads me to believe that the battery has gone bad.
As for my suspicion that your charger went bad, I have had two different quality brand chargers (HTC and Samsung) go bad on me over the last 3 years or so.
Both times the charger failures caused the same symptoms on my phone that you described...the phone getting extremely hot, and the battery discharging, while connected to the charger, instead of charging.
Luckily for me, in both cases, my phone batteries did not completely croak.
In one case the battery did bulge out the phone, but it was an older HTC M7 and it kept working.
In the other case, I noticed that hot phone and the discharging, and immediately unplugged the charger and tossed it in the trash.
So that is just my two-cents.
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What advices do you have to avoid this kind of problem?
Okay guys. I would have to check the IMEI to give you hard facts for the dates. Which I can do im just at work. But last I looked it was manufactured in, March of 2014 or close to that. Ik for a fact that he model was an XT1103 it was completely factory unlocked however my bootloader was locked. Storage was encrypted. And it was the 32gb version. Yes! It could quite possibly be my battery.
Before all this started I was having trouble getting it to charge and I was using a Samsung mini USB with it. But the outlets at the pool I don't think are designed to charge phones. Anyways the burn mark on my USB port showed up the same day. I just didn't notice it (I think) until later that day,but after I got it my phone no longer charged. It would either discharge off the charger, or discharge slower on it.
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What advices do you have to avoid this kind of problem?
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Sorry for the delay in replying...RF got in the way.
Anyways...I really can't offer much 'technical advice'. I can, however, offer some practical advice.
1. Use brand name chargers or be careful if you do use an off-brand charger.
2. If you are charging your phone (either on a brand name charger or an off-brand charger), and you either feel it getting hot or you see it discharging (or both) immediately unplug your phone and throw away the charger.
3. If you do notice that the battery on your phone is bulging, either replace the battery or if it is a sealed device, replace the phone.
Honestly, that is the only advice I can give.
So guys ive decided i m gonna go ahead and try and replace my battery since its rather inexpensive, im gonna order the parts from ifixit. such as anew midframe and battery. It should be done hopefully by next week. Im still completely open to opinions. When its complete ill make a post.
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Sorry for the delay in replying...RF got in the way.
Anyways...I really can't offer much 'technical advice'. I can, however, offer some practical advice.
1. Use brand name chargers or be careful if you do use an off-brand charger.
2. If you are charging your phone (either on a brand name charger or an off-brand charger), and you either feel it getting hot or you see it discharging (or both) immediately unplug your phone and throw away the charger.
3. If you do notice that the battery on your phone is bulging, either replace the battery or if it is a sealed device, replace the phone.
Honestly, that is the only advice I can give.
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In my case, i use aukey quick charge 2.0 and it works great, when i charge the phone, i do it on the night and try to not use when it charge, i dont like to charge with scrap chargers, but thanks for the advice, i will take care on that :laugh:
Alright well today my screwdrivers (ordered from china) came i disassembled the phone, havent gotten my battery yet but theres some things i would like to note. The first being that the old battery had alot of corrosion along with its contact to to mobo. ill update when i get the new battery in.

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