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Official NOOKcolor 2 thread..

B&N will release new NC, called NOOKcolor 2 in November 7th (?) to compete with KF.
http://www.slashgear.com/bn-nook-color-2-tipped-for-nov-7-in-kindle-fire-challenge-28191696/
I personally think B&N should make the NC2 as a full tablet, not a 2nd-gen e-reader. Camera, microphone, .... will be a big boost, otherwise, ehhh, I don't know

votinh said:
B&N will release new NC, called NOOKcolor 2 in November 7th (?) to compete with KF.
http://www.slashgear.com/bn-nook-color-2-tipped-for-nov-7-in-kindle-fire-challenge-28191696/
I personally think B&N should make the NC2 as a full tablet, not a 2nd-gen e-reader. Camera, microphone, .... will be a big boost, otherwise, ehhh, I don't know
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Damn I just ordered the Nook Color Wednesday. Probably should have waited. Any ideas on the price point?

I would expect it keeping around $250 range.

They're going to have to set it to $199 to be considered.
If Amazon has a tablet packed with features for $199, why would they buy a B&N tablet with less functionality for $249?
B&N is selling the Nook Color for $149 on eBay. That will probably be the standard price after the Kindle Fire is released.

BitingChaos said:
They're going to have to set it to $199 to be considered.
If Amazon has a tablet packed with features for $199, why would they buy a B&N tablet with less functionality for $249?
B&N is selling the Nook Color for $149 on eBay. That will probably be the standard price after the Kindle Fire is released.
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149 is for the refurbs. new is still at 249. can't imagine the Nook 2 being cheaper.

pharpe said:
Damn I just ordered the Nook Color Wednesday. Probably should have waited. Any ideas on the price point?
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Since you ordered yours so close to the new one, maybe you can exchange it. That's if you bought from BN

BitingChaos said:
They're going to have to set it to $199 to be considered.
If Amazon has a tablet packed with features for $199, why would they buy a B&N tablet with less functionality for $249?
B&N is selling the Nook Color for $149 on eBay. That will probably be the standard price after the Kindle Fire is released.
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Packed with features? Are you serious? Its almost the exact same as the Nook Color (save the dual-core cpu).
Honestly, I think they should keep the original color around and sell it at a slightly lower than the KF price point, maybe $179? Perhaps the 2 should be a 10" version (it would be the only 10" 'e-reader' on the market, no?). Give it a little more ram and a dual core processor and call it a day (put it back at the $249 price point).

Dual core faster cpu for games and high definition movies. More ram.
Plus... KF has amazon streaming video. Not just books like nook. For non hackers the kf is going to be a much better multimedia device vice just reading. Plus native android market via amazon market.
Gonna be hard to beat software offering wise.
Aaand once hacked.. That dual core cpu will make transcoding native xvid divx files without reencoding much smoother.
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guardianali said:
Dual core faster cpu for games and high definition movies. More ram.
Plus... KF has amazon streaming video. Not just books like nook. For non hackers the kf is going to be a much better multimedia device vice just reading. Plus native android market via amazon market.
Gonna be hard to beat software offering wise.
Aaand once hacked.. That dual core cpu will make transcoding native xvid divx files without reencoding much smoother.
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We can't really start comparing since we don't know what the NC 2 will bring. Posible a dual core cpu, and maybe it will have full access to the market. But its just plain speculation, what we know is that the KF has no sd card slot, so transfering files to it its gonna be a pain, unless you want to upload pirated stuff (movies, tv shoes, videos etc) to their anti-freedom cloud lol

guardianali said:
Plus... KF has amazon streaming video. Not just books like nook.
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Not a free service. Amazon prime streaming will run you ~$80/yr. About what a Netflix subscription cost you.
guardianali said:
Plus native android market via amazon market.
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Source?
I agree with everything else you said. Which is why I think the 2 should have a better cpu and more ram.

the KF won't have an external storage slot, that's alone make it for all the strong side...

The KF can never beet the Nook's main killer feature, it's "Unbrickable" without a mod right out of the box. If the Nook2 even has that it will instantly be better then the KF, at least in the Dev community's eyes (and those are the ones that matter)
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The KF has no memory card slot. That is deal-breaker for me. I recently bricked my NC. But thanks to all the info on xda I was able to restore her. And I'm running CM7.1 on sd. CM7.1 runs great off an sd card. A dual-boot NC beats the crap out of the KF imho.

Just got the news about the Nook Color 2. But I can't find any specs beside some rumors.

ThomasKru said:
Just got the news about the Nook Color 2. But I can't find any specs beside some rumors.
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I'll raise you. Code named 'Acclaim,' price point at a speculated $349 10" tablet. Smart touch tablet holding at $139, and the Color at $249. Expect some sort of announcement on Nov. 7th.
B&N will have 3 ebook readers next quarter, not 2. According to the slide, the NookColor will be getting a brother tablet. Now, I’ve been asked not to post the slide, unfortunately; it might be possible to trace it back to my source. Here’s what it says:
Nook EPD
Smart Touch $139
Nook Color
Encore $249
Acclaim $349
There’s also a notation that it has been approved by WL/JI, and I believe those are the initials of William Lynch (CEO of B&N) and James Iannone (head of B&N Digital Products). (Before I go further, let me confirm that Encore and Smart Touch are valid product names for the current 6″ Nook Touch and 7″ NookColor.) That part is legit.
All I have right now are the names and prices of the tablets, but that alone tells me several details. First and foremost, B&N will keep the NookTouch at $139, and they will have the 2 NookColors at higher price points. The Encore and Acclaim tablets will be priced at $249 and $349.
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2011/09/23/barnes-noble-to-launch-2-new-nookcolors-this-year/
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Also....this!
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2011/10/27/barnes-noble-to-ship-new-nookcolor-on-7-november/

All the Nook Colors and Kindle3s disappeared from my local Walmart Supercenter the shelf that they were on a few days ago is empty with only the price stickers and a few Nook screen protectors hanging around. Also checking the Website it says all the Walmarts within a few dozen miles have "Limited" or "Out of Stock" listed for the Nook Color.
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jgaf said:
Since you ordered yours so close to the new one, maybe you can exchange it. That's if you bought from BN
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I actually ordered it from overstock.com. They have a 30 full refund return policy so I may just send it back. I'll probably keep it though. It's a refurb and I only paid $149. There is no telling what the Nook 2 will cost. Plus it's going to take a while to get root and for stable roms to be developed.

pharpe said:
I actually ordered it from overstock.com. They have a 30 full refund return policy so I may just send it back. I'll probably keep it though. It's a refurb and I only paid $149. There is no telling what the Nook 2 will cost. Plus it's going to take a while to get root and for stable roms to be developed.
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Yeah $150 isn't much so you might as well keep it. If you get a Nook2 in the future you can use the NC as a test Bed/Custom Tablet/Play Thing permanently.
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Buy.com has refurbished ones for 139$ free shipping...

psyched!
I'm excited, I've been looking into an e-reader for a bit now, and haven't been able to decide on one or the other. I hope the NC2 or whatever it will be called pushes me over the edge
Interesting about the "expanded boutiques " WSJ is talking about here
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203687504577003760385780258.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

New Fire 2015/6 Kids edition advise?

Hi, so I just bought 2 Fire 7" "Kid's edition", which I believe are just the Fire 7" 5th Gen 2015, with an added 1 year Amazon FreeTime subscription?
I'm not sure if I need to root them. They seem a bit slow (not blaming the hardware), and I worry I may lose the 1 year unlimited FreeTime, but at the same time, I bought 64G Micro SD cards, and they will be used offline, so I plan on buying learning apps for little ones.
What should I do? They came with Fire OS 5.1.1 by default, and I really wish to be able to make a backup of whatever I do with them in case the mother I give these as a gift has to recover it somehow (she knows nothing about android btw).
Here's my hopes with these devices:
1- Use them offline, buy, and download many learning apps for kids, as well as games, and movies.
2- Since I seem to be able to use FlashFire at the moment, and not TWRP, find a way to create a nandroid backup, and easy recovery. (or is Amazon recovery good enough?)
3 - Is it worth a slight performance improvement, flashing a lighter rom, and less confusing launcher/Amazon setup, and complicate a recovery procedure?

ianthomas said:
Hi, so I just bought 2 Fire 7" "Kid's edition", which I believe are just the Fire 7" 5th Gen 2015, with an added 1 year Amazon FreeTime subscription?
I'm not sure if I need to root them. They seem a bit slow (not blaming the hardware), and I worry I may lose the 1 year unlimited FreeTime, but at the same time, I bought 64G Micro SD cards, and they will be used offline, so I plan on buying learning apps for little ones.
What should I do? They came with Fire OS 5.1.1 by default, and I really wish to be able to make a backup of whatever I do with them in case the mother I give these as a gift has to recover it somehow (she knows nothing about android btw).
Here's my hopes with these devices:
1- Use them offline, buy, and download many learning apps for kids, as well as games, and movies.
2- Since I seem to be able to use FlashFire at the moment, and not TWRP, find a way to create a nandroid backup, and easy recovery. (or is Amazon recovery good enough?)
3 - Is it worth a slight performance improvement, flashing a lighter rom, and less confusing launcher/Amazon setup, and complicate a recovery procedure?
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does it have a SD card slot?
does it say HD on it?
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sd_shadow said:
does it have a SD card slot?
does it say HD on it?
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"@sd_shadow Thanks for reading my question.
It has a Micro SD card slot for up to 128G of storage, it's not an HD (I believe they don't support Micro SD), and it says 5th generation as well as Fire OS 5.1.1 that came by default. Here's the link, and special offer (buy 2, get 50$ off):
Fire Kids Edition, 7" Display, Wi-Fi, 8 GB, Pink Kid-Proof Case
My questions are really regarding giving these devices to a mother that doesn't know much about tablets, and will mostly be offline (Freetime is mostly Wifi only sadly), so I'm trying to think what I could do to these devices to improve her experience, and the little ones.. I root, and try out roms all the time on my cellphones, but even with much experience using android roms, the Fire OS UI seems confusing, and bloated to me for a regular mom.

ianthomas said:
"@sd_shadow Thanks for reading my question.
It has a Micro SD card slot for up to 128G of storage, it's not an HD (I believe they don't support Micro SD), and it says 5th generation as well as Fire OS 5.1.1 that came by default. Here's the link, and special offer (buy 2, get 50$ off):
Fire Kids Edition, 7" Display, Wi-Fi, 8 GB, Pink Kid-Proof Case
My questions are really regarding giving these devices to a mother that doesn't know much about tablets, and will mostly be offline (Freetime is mostly Wifi only sadly), so I'm trying to think what I could do to these devices to improve her experience, and the little ones.. I root, and try out roms all the time on my cellphones, but even with much experience using android roms, the Fire OS UI seems confusing, and bloated to me for a regular mom.
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yes, it's rootable just use the 5.1.1 root
links in the index
[Index]Amazon Fire 7" - 5th Gen-2015
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Amazon will release new Fire 7 (2015) Tablets models, Next Week?

I've seen some leaked information that Amazon is preparing, and that they will release new Fire Tablets and also a New FireTV-Stick, next week!
Does anyone know if this information is true and what we can expect in these new Fire 7 tablets (2015) models?

ulises.rodriguez said:
I've seen some leaked information that Amazon is preparing, and that they will release new Fire Tablets models, next week!
Does anyone know if this information is true and what we can expect in these new Fire 7 tablets (2015) models?
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Model released last fall [2015 Fire] can now be purchased w/16GB storage option. I'm hoping for something meatier like an HDX replacement. Current mid-range tablets are less than noteworthy given price points.

As you already said, the Fire7 can now be purchased with 16GB, which is really good, but I was also hoping for something better with some enhancements, like a New HDX.
I have also noticed that several weeks ago, some colors of the FireHD8 sometimes are unavailable, in very short supply or are also offered used-like-new/Used-Very-Good, what could be a sign that Amazon is preparing to launch some new models with some enhanced features.

Got the 3 Kindle Fire 7 (2015) tablets for $30 each from Amazon. They were open box returns. They are the 8gb (2015) models. I got these a couple of weeks ago and they came with 5.1.1 firmware. Amazon is still selling these open box returns.
Amazon has a department called WAREHOUSE DEALS, that sells their open box, damaged box, returns and old stock at a discount. Most items come with a warranty and are eligible for Prime shipping.
To find these deals on Amazon, go to the Amazon main page.
Select TODAY'S DEALS under the Amazon Search Bar.
Select OPEN BOX & USED on the menu below TODAY'S DEALS.
In the WAREHOUSE DEALS department, search for KINDLE FIRE.
They currently have a couple of Fire 7 (2015) tablets for around $30 (with no warranty).
These are exactly what I bought and they all worked great. These Kindle Fires arrive, shrink wrapped, with a charger and data cable. That's all that is in the plain brown box. No original packaging or printed material is included.
Amazon describes these discounted Kindle Fire 7's as having slight blemishes. My 3 tablets had similar descriptions but they were perfect. The screens were all perfect. At most there was a slight rub on the back of the tablet that you had to look at really closely to even see. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one again if I needed another one.

The new Kindle Fire Oasis eReader was released this week - maybe this leaked information was referring to that?
Also, there is this:
New version of the Kindle Fire HD 8 is apparently in the works at Amazon
Amazon Fire HD 8 sequel apparently on the way with 1.5GB RAM

m00head said:
The new Kindle Fire Oasis eReader was released this week - maybe this leaked information was referring to that?
Also, there is this:
New version of the Kindle Fire HD 8 is apparently in the works at Amazon
Amazon Fire HD 8 sequel apparently on the way with 1.5GB RAM
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Of accurate this is a good move by Amazon. The current HD8 is a rip IMHO; a used HDX offers far more at a better price point. Too much is made over max freq and other glossy specs. The MT8163/T720 is a responsive combo when properly tuned which is all that really matters in this segment. Rootability and FlashFire support will ultimately determine how interesting this device is to the XDA community. Hopefully Amazon equips it with a decent panel (beyond resolution specs) and keeps the price below a Benjamin USD.

m00head said:
The new Kindle Fire Oasis eReader was released this week - maybe this leaked information was referring to that?
Also, there is this:
New version of the Kindle Fire HD 8 is apparently in the works at Amazon
Amazon Fire HD 8 sequel apparently on the way with 1.5GB RAM
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Thank for this great news, about new Fire HD 8 Tablets!

Catching Up with the Amazon Fire...

Hey Guys -
I've been using XDA for a few years now to mod my many other Android devices, but today; was talking to wife and she isn't happy with her Amazon Fire tablet as she says it's too slow and is sick of all the ads. It's a 7" 5th Generation running 5.6.0.1 and all I've done to it in the past is install Google Play on it.
What would be my best option / ROM to load which would basically turn it into a simple yet stable Android device? I looked at LineageOS & a couple of others in this forum, but unsure which is the most stable - and - if it's even possible to install any of them on a 5.6.0.1 device. I planned to test out a couple as I thought I had rooted when installing Google Play long ago so grabbed TWRP and installed FlashFire - but when launching FlashFire I was told it was not rooted.
What would you suggest be the way to go to achieve this goal? Thanks!

bzowk said:
Hey Guys -
I've been using XDA for a few years now to mod my many other Android devices, but today; was talking to wife and she isn't happy with her Amazon Fire tablet as she says it's too slow and is sick of all the ads. It's a 7" 5th Generation running 5.6.0.1 and all I've done to it in the past is install Google Play on it.
What would be my best option / ROM to load which would basically turn it into a simple yet stable Android device? I looked at LineageOS & a couple of others in this forum, but unsure which is the most stable - and - if it's even possible to install any of them on a 5.6.0.1 device. I planned to test out a couple as I thought I had rooted when installing Google Play long ago so grabbed TWRP and installed FlashFire - but when launching FlashFire I was told it was not rooted.
What would you suggest be the way to go to achieve this goal? Thanks!
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Unfortunately, allowing FireOS to update beyond 5.3.2.0 permanently removed the ability to root and/or install custom ROMs. It's FireOS in all it's glory from this point forward. There is a convoluted way to remove some of the Amazon bloat but you probably don't want to go there as it's not for the faint of heart. Most who travel that route have less than satisfactory outcomes. 5th/7th gen Fire 7 devices are getting long in the tooth and are decidedly underpowered for the tasks Amazon demands of it. Your better half is probably looking a new device if she is significantly dissatisfied.

Davey126 said:
Unfortunately, allowing FireOS to update beyond 5.3.2.0 permanently removed the ability to root and/or install custom ROMs. It's FireOS in all it's glory from this point forward. There is a convoluted way to remove some of the Amazon bloat but you probably don't want to go there as it's not for the faint of heart. Most who travel that route have less than satisfactory outcomes. 5th/7th gen Fire 7 devices are getting long in the tooth and are decidedly underpowered for the tasks Amazon demands of it. Your better half is probably looking a new device if she is significantly dissatisfied.
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Some folks over in the HD 8/10 forum seem to be making headway with achieving root, some of which might apply to the Fire 7.
However, I do have to agree the 5th gen Fire 7 I have is barely a functional tablet at this point with the stock ROM.

lakitu47 said:
Some folks over in the HD 8/10 forum seem to be making headway with achieving root, some of which might apply to the Fire 7.
However, I do have to agree the 5th gen Fire 7 I have is barely a functional tablet at this point with the stock ROM.
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HD 10 has a different underlying architecture utilizing different kernel and ROM components exposing new vulnerabilities that are being exploited. Amazon will undoubtedly close those as do all manufactures. In contrast HD 8 uses the same architecture as the Fire 7. Realizing root on that device is highly unlikely.
It will be interest to see what Amazon does with the next hardware refresh. Me thinks the Fire 7 will be gone with either an adjustment on the HD 8 price point or the addition of some other gizmo to fill the gap.

Davey126 said:
HD 10 has a different underlying architecture utilizing different kernel and ROM components exposing new vulnerabilities that are being exploited. Amazon will undoubtedly close those as do all manufactures. In contrast HD 8 uses the same architecture as the Fire 7. Realizing root on that device is highly unlikely.
It will be interest to see what Amazon does with the next hardware refresh. Me thinks the Fire 7 will be gone with either an adjustment on the HD 8 price point or the addition of some other gizmo to fill the gap.
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From what it looks like so far, it looks like the current progress for the Fire HD 8 is less so "root" and more like "uncovering hidden features we never knew we could use on Fire OS".
I do notice the Fire HD 8/HD 10 have gotten more of the spotlight recently. The Fire 7 (even the 2017 version) just isn't the $50 bargain it was two years ago. The HD 8 2017 has already dropped down to only $80 new.
Less people are buying the 7" tablet now, because it almost seems "too cheap". I do wonder what the Fire tablet lineup will be next year.

I bought the 7" recently and still consider it a pretty good bargain (I paid 40 Euros).
You could argue that the 8" it better value for money (I don't really know, but maybe) but for me the 7" form-factor is just perfect for a "everyday carry device".
The market for 7" tablet is not so big, you could get a Lenovo for about 80 Euro or a Samsung for about 120, that's about it if you want to avoid chinese no-names.
So it is by far the cheapest option and debloated and equipped with Google Playstore it is quite a nice device and I expect Amazon to drop the 7" line, so get it while you can...

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I bought the 7" recently and still consider it a pretty good bargain (I paid 40 Euros).
You could argue that the 8" it better value for money (I don't really know, but maybe) but for me the 7" form-factor is just perfect for a "everyday carry device".
The market for 7" tablet is not so big, you could get a Lenovo for about 80 Euro or a Samsung for about 120, that's about it if you want to avoid chinese no-names.
So it is by far the cheapest option and debloated and equipped with Google Playstore it is quite a nice device and I expect Amazon to drop the 7" line, so get it while you can...
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A gently used HDX is a far better device for similar coin. Far superior hardware and capable of running a dozen+ custom ROMs ranging from KitKat to Nougat (soon Oreo). I do enjoy my rooted 5th gen Fire for media streaming playback.

Fire 7 2019 worth the upgrade?

I currently have a 2015 fire7 (ford) and works well for what I use it for. Wondering if the 2019 version (mustang) is significantly better in any meaningful way?

Sure it has some physical upgrades, but it's still a dog. Like playing with a potato.
Amazon Fire - Wikipedia
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I think it depends on what you use it for. Comparing the 2015 to the 2019, the main things I notice are a faster processor, 5GHz wifi, and more storage (8GB on the ford, 16GB on the mustang). The screen is the same, and it'll even fit the same case although button layout changed. The 2019 version does support the newer FireOS, although you won't be able to root or install a custom ROM on a new version.
The problem is Amazon really hasn't had the mustang/2019 version on sale often, so paying full price for a ~2 year old device feels wrong. If you can get it around half price and don't mind the limitations, it's probably decent.

Fire 8 plus for what you pay same price and get generation 11 plays more games than last 7 and 8HE although still restricted in a way which Android and google are apart in Amazon fire and appears to be coming soon after years of experience both boosting the 4gig ram and mentioned google.. But Luna is not in UK yet as they go in gaming online it needed the work behind it's own device.