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Hi guy, jusy now my S Pen accidentally drop into water, now the problem is the S Pen is very sensitive, when my S Pen haven't touch and far betwwen 0.3-0.4mm to the screen, the screen auto detect it and written...it is annoying~
Anyone have great solution to solve it?
Very appreciate your helping as well...
Tq
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Let the pen dry fully before using it on your Gnote
Try a hair dryer on low heat. I rescued a phone that had dropped in water that way!
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be lucky that it wasnt the note itself wait and hope, or you need to buy a new one
leong19921992 said:
Hi guy, jusy now my S Pen accidentally drop into water, now the problem is the S Pen is very sensitive, when my S Pen haven't touch and far betwwen 0.3-0.4mm to the screen, the screen auto detect it and written...it is annoying~
Anyone have great solution to solve it?
Very appreciate your helping as well...
Tq
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Grab a container and fill it half way with rice. Dried rice ... then put the pen in the middle of the container and fill it up to the top with dried rice. What happens is dried rice sucks out the moisture out of devices. My buddy fixed his IPhone this way. Hope this helps you. Make sure that the container doesn't have leaks otherwise rice sill absorb moisture out of the air instead of the pen.
Just buy a new one, if can afford to but the Note and Im sure 20 bucks is a bargain.
Colingajewski said:
Try a hair dryer on low heat. I rescued a phone that had dropped in water that way!
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marlip said:
Grab a container and fill it half way with rice. Dried rice ... then put the pen in the middle of the container and fill it up to the top with dried rice. What happens is dried rice sucks out the moisture out of devices. My buddy fixed his IPhone this way. Hope this helps you. Make sure that the container doesn't have leaks otherwise rice sill absorb moisture out of the air instead of the pen.
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blue ribbon for colin!!! great job and the right thing to do...a fan will work too in some cases...as long as its moving air it evaporates the liquid faster....
not so much for marlip... rice is 100% a myth.... and no i dont care what you have read, its wrong... if the rice is not touching the liquid it is not absorbing it... sure it picks up some evaporation as it evaporates on its own(no help from the rice i will add again) but it is doing nothing but getting rice dust in areas it doesnt need to be in... moving air people.... whether it is warm or just a fan...moving air will evaporate liquid faster than non moving air.... bag of rice =non moving air.... and again if the rice is not touching the liquid it is not absorbing it...just the normal evaporation that would happen in a container without the rice is all that is happening..
not looking for a fight just trying to help people fix things the right way... ive been repair tech for 20+ years and revived thousands of phones and revived thousands that werent revived by rice... so i do have a clue...
btw if itas a phone just drying it wont fix it...there will be corrosion on the board, and like rust corrosion doesnt stop until you stop it...it may work for a while but it will start getting quirky and issues will arise so it needs cleaned and treated too...
I think i will have to agree... Air circulation will help much more than rice. I look back at my first mobile phones and remember how many of them got soaked and i had to unscrew them apart and just leave them in front of my "ULTIMATE HI-POWER USB FAN" live long nokia 3310
So my opinion bro just look for an s-pen dissasembly guide, follow it carefully, leave your s-pen in front of a fan and forget about rice... Just because ur phones made in asia dosent mean the regions main dish will fix its problems... Will be silly if i poured beer over my BMW's scratches to make em dissapear
Good luck with you s-pen mate!!! Hope to see you drawing in no time
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Leong, I posted a long time ago about how to address a water incident. This is the best tried and true method :
If your phone gets dropped in water immediately remove from the water,
Remove the battery as quickly as possible Then
Dry off the best you can, if you can open the unit up (you have the skill to do so then do so)
Then immerse in 91% Iopropol Alcohol (200proof drinking alcohol is actually better but rarely can find reagent grade drinking alcohol)
The reason for doing this 1st is the water molecules bind to the alcohol which immediately limits the potential damage. Then, after a few minutes (3-15 min depending) then dry off with paper towels and q-tips the best you can and then
Either use a fan (hair dryer) on it for a time and then put in rice or Millet and leave for a day or 2. Then use the Hair dryer to blow off any dust. reassemble and test, most the time you will be successful, it all depends how bad the incident was and how fast you got the battery out of the phone.
This is the standard way of addressing a water incident in underwater photography. I have done this personally more times than I want to admit, I do underwater photography and you can imagine the panic you get when your $3000.00 camera /housing starts to get a leak in the ocean @ 90 feet underwater, worst part is salt water destroys the coating on your lenses, which is insult to injury.
Either way the important thing to to be patient and make sure it is totally dry (ergo 1-2 days) Also storing it in the grain is best @ 75-85 deg F doesn't need more heat just higher than the 60's deg
I know everyone always says OMG putting a electronic in Alcohol..... read up on the science/ chemistry... and you will find this is pretty normal thing as long as there is no battery or power source connected to the item.
Hope you fix it
leong19921992 said:
Hi guy, jusy now my S Pen accidentally drop into water, now the problem is the S Pen is very sensitive, when my S Pen haven't touch and far betwwen 0.3-0.4mm to the screen, the screen auto detect it and written...it is annoying~
Anyone have great solution to solve it?
Very appreciate your helping as well...
Tq
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Can't we all just get along?
There is no constructive purpose for name calling, folks. kawgirlval69 stated in her post that she was not trying to argue with anyone, she was just trying to help. Nobody really cares what will or will not work in theory. As compelling as that science lesson was I always prefer real-world experience to theory.
Last night my SGN went swimming in the hot tub and my daughter told me to burry it in an airtight can of rice (which I did using silicone sealant). By the way, I was thinking the same thing another poster suggested (if only it was only the S-Pen that fell in!)... Anyway I quickly dove in head first after it (forgetting about the wireless headphones that were around my neck) and eventually emerged with the device, although not until after it had sunk all the way to the bottom! Immediately I ripped off the back and pulled the battery, then shook as much water out of all the ports as I could. I used a hand dryer for once over but knew that wouldn't help with any of the water deep inside the device so I took my daughter's advice and buried it inside a sealed can of rice for 18 hours. I would have disassembled the device immediately but I had time constraints due to work obligations so I hoped that the rice would do it's job.
The first chance I got this afternoon I pulled my phone out of the rice and took it apart. There was water EVERYWHERE inside -- big puddles in every nook and cranny! In fairness I can't say if there would have been more or less water at that point without the rice, but that is all academic considering the fact that leaving ANY standing water on electronic components for that much time is a bad idea due to the corrosion factor that another poster mentioned, corrosion I noticed already developing on a few metal brackets and such.
After complete disassembly and thorough drying (with said hand dryer) of each individual part I cleaned the slightly corroded areas and put the device back together. I fired it up no more than an hour ago and so far everything seems to work fine.
As for the S-pen, if there's a way to disassemble it and thoroughly dry it by hand I would do that, or just wait for it to dry on its own which may take several days. As yet another poster suggested it might be worth it just to buy a new one if you can't get that one working... and just be glad it wasn't your phone you dunked!
Oh, and if any are curious, I may have saved my phone but my wireless headphones didn't make it (sniff).
[edit] Apparently the name-calling post was removed? Anyway I appreciate Oka1's reply -- I didn't even think about using alcohol but that's actually a great idea! A bit too late for me now but I'll have to remember that for next time.
@ oka... good way to do it... just a tip from experience.. you dont need the millet or rice after... air dry or fan or etc... overnite will evaporate everything doing things as you described... just saving a step....
@ajax... thank you for actually reading what i wrote.. thanks for having my back...
kawgirlval69 said:
blue ribbon for colin!!! great job and the right thing to do...a fan will work too in some cases...as long as its moving air it evaporates the liquid faster....
not so much for marlip... rice is 100% a myth.... and no i dont care what you have read, its wrong... if the rice is not touching the liquid it is not absorbing it... sure it picks up some evaporation as it evaporates on its own(no help from the rice i will add again) but it is doing nothing but getting rice dust in areas it doesnt need to be in... moving air people.... whether it is warm or just a fan...moving air will evaporate liquid faster than non moving air.... bag of rice =non moving air.... and again if the rice is not touching the liquid it is not absorbing it...just the normal evaporation that would happen in a container without the rice is all that is happening..
not looking for a fight just trying to help people fix things the right way... ive been repair tech for 20+ years and revived thousands of phones and revived thousands that werent revived by rice... so i do have a clue...
btw if itas a phone just drying it wont fix it...there will be corrosion on the board, and like rust corrosion doesnt stop until you stop it...it may work for a while but it will start getting quirky and issues will arise so it needs cleaned and treated too...
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I know that this thread is a little long in the tooth, but I thought I might add this: a mom and pop company called CPR+ (cell phone rescue) uses the following protocol to repair water damaged phones:
1: Place the phone in a hermetically sealed container with long grain brown rice: the atmospherics inside will naturally pull moisture from the device into the drier air in the container.
2: Replace corroded parts and hip joints on the logic board, and glue.
The rice doesn't work because its rice...it works only when placed in a sealed container by transferring moisture from the device to the air in the container. The rice is there to absorb water from the atmosphere...not the device directly. A zip local bag will work too.
A friend of mine is a son of the family who owned the store. He also made a living for two years buying water damaged iPhones and reselling them after using the rice method.
I've saved two of my phones, my fathers phone, and my cousins Droid this way. So far I'm 4-0. Three out of four of those devices, others tried using a hair dryer, a fan, and just leaving them out for 3 days-- 7 in the case of my dads Motorola Tundra. The Tundra wound up with a seeping battery after a hair dryer was brought to it. In most cases I'd just buy a new battery, regardless.
3 days in a zip lock bag--untouched for the whole period, ressurected one phone after the first try, and the other 3 phones after other methods were tried.
As good as anecdotal evidence gets without a double blind test, dontcha think?
The pens are actually very resilient. I had an accident involving my pen and the toilet (don't ask), by necessity I immersed the whole pen in a cup full of regular alcohol, wrapped it in a tissue paper for a while to let it dry, and it works just fine. I had to immerse it several times in alcohol before I felt somewhat comfortable with using it again.
I left my wife's iPhone in a bag of rice on a mildly warm radiator for 2 days. It worked.
However, using a hairdryer seems to make a lot of sense. You want to get rid of the water asap. Not leave it slowly evaporate like I did.
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Just buy a new one buddys
I droped an old nokia in water once.
i followed the same procedure of immidiately removing from water and removing the battery as soon as i could.
Then I just took the entire thing apart and wiped it clean with tissues. Then i just kept it in the sum for abot 15 mins (depends on how strong the sun is). once every thing was dry and seems to be properly cleaned. I just took some rubbing alcohol and cleaned it once again. Dats it.
Assembled every thing and voila!! :fingers-crossed: every thing worked. Not sure how advisable it is to keep electronic components in the sun, but it worked well for me.
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Hope this helps someone in need :fingers-crossed:
Well, the S-pen from my Note 10.1 in 2014 not only fell in the water, as it was washed along with clothing. Once you find it inside the machine, to shake to get the water with soap and became a wash in running water. After this, I used a blow dryer for a few minutes and let her into the compartment in the Note for 2 days. After this, the pen started functioning normally ... would be lucky? rs
leong19921992 said:
Hi guy, jusy now my S Pen accidentally drop into water, now the problem is the S Pen is very sensitive, when my S Pen haven't touch and far betwwen 0.3-0.4mm to the screen, the screen auto detect it and written...it is annoying~
Anyone have great solution to solve it?
Very appreciate your helping as well...
Tq
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I am your first thanker. However, that is weird.
I think that the water causes a short circuit in the pen which lets it think that there is pressure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFtPNh6MfpU#action=share
Like most new phones op5 is basically glued together which provides some resistance to water.. so while I wouldn't worry about using the phone is light rain I still wouldn't trust it for underwater experiments. Water damage can also be tricky and start causing issues much later.
This video doesn't tell you anything. Oneplus tells you it isn't water resistant, so any potential water damage isn't covered by warranty. This experiment is the same as dropping the phone from 2 meters and having it not brake; it might happen, but it also might not. Do you want to take the risk?
nothing new here, you can find those kind of video from all oneplus devices and almost all popular phones.
My galaxy S3 was in a hot jacuzzi all night ( about 8 hours ), and after 3 years, it still working,
I drop many electronic devices in water, and it still working, even without the ingress protection.
Make sure to not power up the device before it's completely dry (about 2 weeks)
Op5 boards are probably IP ready, but the case is not sealed. You won't have any issue, until the oxydation is becoming bad.
The one plus is water resistant, however they didn't get it certified so people can't RMA for water damage. I think apple did something similar, the Nexus 6 is the same.
Although i wouldn't like to be the mug to test this theory.
That's pretty much how I'm looking at it. I won't stress if I get caught in the rain with it, but I'm not going to go swimming with it, either.
I can verify it's at least resistant to water. Dropped it in the sink three days ago. Got it up in about 5 seconds (it felt like 10 minutes, tho...). I quickly dried it with a hanky and then blow dried it. At first there was some glitching with the alert slider, but that went away after an hour. Now it's all good.
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I can verify it's at least resistant to water. Dropped it in the sink three days ago. Got it up in about 5 seconds (it felt like 10 minutes, tho...). I quickly dried it with a hanky and then blow dried it. At first there was some glitching with the alert slider, but that went away after an hour. Now it's all good.
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Water damage can show up weeks or months later. I hope your device isn't damaged, but I would definitely keep any non ipx7 or higher device away from water. Especially submersion.
This week I decided wash my device with tap water and for my surprise I realized a few hours later that my cameras was with water inside... I never let it fell down and I was shocked with the "protection" and even more after reading that Huawei doesn't guarantee protection against water...
So if it really has IP68, what's the point?
Anyone had trouble with water?
Still don't understand why people purposely put their expensive smartphones under water. regardless of the IP68 spec
It's a very sensitive electronic device which may or may not be correctly sealed, keep the IP68 rating for when it rains or when you accidentally get it wet, don't put it under water on purpose...
And why did you only check Huawei's water policy 'after' you put it in water? Why not check these things first?
Plus, how dirty was your phone that you needed to put it under the tap? A damp cloth would have been better no?
I'm fully understanding the last message, and as you I'm not gonna put my phone willingly under water...To clean it... Or anything else!
BUT, in other hand, huawei worked (and marketed communication) to put an ip certification on it and we all paid for it too.... Not 'the only' feature but it's part of the price for that product.
Will anyone say 'ok it's fine' if your water-resistant watch is filled with water after you've washed your hands or done some dishes?
Could be a 10€ ones or 15k€...water-resistant or ip is still the same... Even more with a device like this phone which was launched around 1k€.
Will somebody say 'ok...' too if your brand new jacket which was sold as bullet proof is scratch by a paintball ? ...
Etc etc.
OK : don't look to damage your stuff willingly
Not OK : companies wash their hands so easily...
Hope your device get repaired !
Or put in rice bag for the night ... Old style always relieved
Tapa'DoC'eD
Did you bought it from an official seller??? Because there are a lot of cheap refurbished that they don't mention this of course.
I had a scare with my p30pro. Walked into a swimming pool with my phone in my swimming shorts. Phone fell out and stayed under water for approx 5mins in under 1m depth. Got the phone out and dried it with a towel. Had phone microphone issues for two days after that - people on a call could not hear me properly, but all issues cleared out after a couple of days, so I'm guessing there was some water stuck in mic holes that had to dry out. Since then, I had no issues so I'm guessing IP68 rating was true in my case
I've used mine in the Mediterranean Sea, no problems so far. Multiple times under water.
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I've used mine in the Mediterranean Sea, no problems so far. Multiple times under water.
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You know what salt water does to electronics right?
Even if the water doesn't cause a problem the salt will corrode the contacts for charger etc
Can I swim with my smartphone?
We certainly wouldn’t recommend swimming with your phone. When the IEC tests a smartphone it’s done under lab conditions, with the handset in standby mode – not in a swimming pool full of various chemicals used to cleanse the water.
The same applies to the ocean. Seawater is full of salt, a mineral device-makers stress isn’t tested when the unit is being put through its paces for an IP rating, so we’d also strongly suggest steering clear of that.
Let’s be clear here: the rating the International Electrotechnical Commission assigns is strictly for fresh water. That means it doesn’t guarantee protection from submersion in other liquids – beer, coffee, salt water and soda, to name but a few.
https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/what-is-ip68-ip-ratings-explained-2947135
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You know what salt water does to electronics right?
Even if the water doesn't cause a problem the salt will corrode the contacts for charger etc
Can I swim with my smartphone?
We certainly wouldn’t recommend swimming with your phone. When the IEC tests a smartphone it’s done under lab conditions, with the handset in standby mode – not in a swimming pool full of various chemicals used to cleanse the water.
The same applies to the ocean. Seawater is full of salt, a mineral device-makers stress isn’t tested when the unit is being put through its paces for an IP rating, so we’d also strongly suggest steering clear of that.
Let’s be clear here: the rating the International Electrotechnical Commission assigns is strictly for fresh water. That means it doesn’t guarantee protection from submersion in other liquids – beer, coffee, salt water and soda, to name but a few.
https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/what-is-ip68-ip-ratings-explained-2947135
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Yes, Did plug my port on the bottom first and give it 'normal' water bath afterwards.
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Yes, Did plug my port on the bottom first and give it 'normal' water bath afterwards.
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You will destroy your phone, hope you are rich
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You will destroy your phone, hope you are rich
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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No, putting a smartphone into the sea will not be fine, but carry on
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This week I decided wash my device with tap water and for my surprise I realized a few hours later that my cameras was with water inside... I never let it fell down and I was shocked with the "protection" and even more after reading that Huawei doesn't guarantee protection against water...
So if it really has IP68, what's the point?
Anyone had trouble with water?
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never had any issue like this and i do clean my mobile like this quite often even cleaned it with soap on many occasions.
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never had any issue like this and i do clean my mobile like this quite often even cleaned it with soap on many occasions.
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Then you've been lucky so far, that's all, every time you put it in the sea it starts to eat away at the metal contacts, sooner or later they will fail, then you will be here on XDA asking why and how to fix it
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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There is a dedicated underwater case for P30 pro and underwater photo mode.
Much cheaper than new phone IMO, if you're into underwater photos.
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Then you've been lucky so far, that's all, every time you put it in the sea it starts to eat away at the metal contacts, sooner or later they will fail, then you will be here on XDA asking why and how to fix it
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I guess that you confused users, this guy said that he ony washed the device, no put in the sea (like mine)
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I guess that you confused users, this guy said that he ony washed the device, no put in the sea (like mine)
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Doesn't matter really, purposely putting your phone under any water isn't the best idea, they do not come advertising that you can do that, there is no picture of the phone under the water taking photos to show you what you can do with it, it is literally just a rating to say it is water 'resistant' and even then, only at a certain depth for a certain length of time, under lab conditions, so in other words, Not waterproof at all as it will eventually leak in, that alone tells me some devices will be better sealed than others, which has already been shown by people complaining water got in the camera and display
Your phone your choice, just don't come making threads on XDA asking how to fix it when it all goes wrong
Yes it has IP68, I tried putting it on a pool and under a waterfall. Just don't let your speaker grill and charging port submerged in the water for a long period
Wait i thought the p30 pro was waterproof???
Phone is IP68 rated. It can survive underwater. IP68 is great if you are under a rain shower or if the phone falls accidentally in water. Well, I use it in the shower and i wash it under tap water. Never had any problem. Remember that, if the membrane of mic gets wet, the quality of your voice will be worse.
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Wait i thought the p30 pro was waterproof???
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IP68 is splash proof only, not really a waterproof, even Samsung's S & Note series
This is silly.. It's supposed to be IP68. It got wet from low pressure tap water, I didn't mind because I know it's IP68. I was about to take a photo and noticed it's blurry, looked on the back and both the main and wide angle lenses are filled with water drops. So annoying.
The 5X lens is perfect for some reason, zero drops there.
I sent email to Giztop, I hope they can help.
Don't trust any phone to be watertight... many have learned the hard way.
Think of it more like being water resistant.
NEVER expose a phone to salt water. If -any- gets inside it's a sure death.
Damn.. I bought the 512/12 version just 5 months ago. What a sh*tshow..
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Damn.. I bought the 512/12 version just 5 months ago. What a sh*tshow..
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If it hasn't worked it's way to the mobo you should be fine after the clean out.
Just keep it powered down until then.
Truth be told the seals are rather puny on all phones. It's nice when they work, just don't count on it.
Realize that being under water 3 feet is 1.3 psi of pressure. It will find any openings... hence the max 30 minute warning on most "waterproof" phones.
Two ziplock freezers bags will make it waterproof for a couple inches to a few feet in depth. Even then I would keep an eye on it.
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If it hasn't worked it's way to the mobo you should be fine after the clean out.
Just keep it powered down until then.
Truth be told the seals are rather puny on all phones. It's nice when they work, just don't count on it.
Realize that being under water 3 feet is 1.3 psi of pressure. It will find any openings... hence the max 30 minute warning on most "waterproof" phones.
Two ziplock freezers bags will make it waterproof for a couple inches to a few feet in depth. Even then I would keep an eye on it.
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I had an LG V30 in the past.. It was in the water so many times , I figured IP68 can be trusted. I guess not all phones are made alike.
Anyway, I turned it off and it's sitting in rice (no idea if it actually works, but better than nothing).
My biggest worry is actually water marks on the camera glass after it dries. The main reason for buying this phone is the camera.
I already sent Giztop an email about it, let's see what they will reply.
Mine fell in a sink once but it was ok . Xiaomi waterproofing seems kinda hit and miss tbh
Forget the rice, eat it.
Heat drives out moisture even in a high humidity environments ie a hot box. Used in tropics to perverse lens, surgical equipment, etc.
Don't over cook it though
A constant 110F will work but it may take a spell.
The water will likely leave a residue but it may not be an issue. Try to gently tap it to the side so it will vaporize elsewhere.
I'm using a sous vide box , inserted a hair dryer in the whole of the sous vide and set the HD on low. Whenever it's turned on the moist goes away, as soon as I stop it comes back. Trying now 30 minutes or so, I'll update.
Giztop seems to avoid taking care of it, but I learned IP68 is not to be trusted. $1200 lesson.
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I'm using a sous vide box , inserted a hair dryer in the whole of the sous vide and set the HD on low. Whenever it's turned on the moist goes away, as soon as I stop it comes back. Trying now 30 minutes or so, I'll update.
Giztop seems to avoid taking care of it, but I learned IP68 is not to be trusted. $1200 lesson.
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It's not a expensive lesson yet... have it taken apart and dried.
That's probably the best option to avoid damaging it.
so i just got my xperia 1ii today, i was wiping the screen with a bit of wet cloth before sticking on the screen protector, then i saw mist on the front facing camera, next thing i know it screen starts to flicker and turn green, then it died, it was a sad day for me, is it possible for water to get in an ip68 phone when brand new?
it was also kinda my fault for using wet cloth, but like all my other ip68 phones this never happened to me T _ T
WYSIWYG... yes it's possible.
Never assume the seals are intact. Protect from water exposure at all times is what I do.
Will Sony warranty cover it???
I am not sure about Sony's warranty on user error.
There is nothing in the box stating anything about warranty. I bought it online but there is a physical shop that I collected the phone from.
I left it in a bag of rice for 10 hours but the screen still turn up black screen with some odd lines and shut itself down, I feel so dumb for causing this, I usually do the same way of installing screen protectors for my Z3+,Z5 and XZ and water never got in, I feel so embarrassed and unlucky T_ T
Rice Doesn't Work!
The phone needs to be powered down and the battery disconnected asap. Otherwise it will likely be destroyed if it isn't already. It needs to then be completely dried out.
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Battle it out with Sony.
Obviously the first option is incompatible with the second option. I'd send the mess back to Sony, they may or may not suck it up easily.
Sony is a pain to deal with...
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Rice Doesn't Work!
The phone needs to be powered down and the battery disconnected asap. Otherwise it will likely be destroyed if it isn't already. It needs to then be completely dried out.
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Battle it out with Sony.
Obviously the first option is incompatible with the second option. I'd send the mess back to Sony, they may or may not suck it up easily.
Sony is a pain to deal with...
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Sony is hard to deal with, ya so I've heard, too bad stores are not open today or tomorrow need to wait till Monday.
damn it I bought rice for nothing.
SinclairLen said:
Sony is hard to deal with, ya so I've heard, too bad stores are not open today or tomorrow need to wait till Monday.
damn it I bought rice for nothing.
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I know Sony well, as I have torn into them multiple occasions. They are rotten to the core.
That however doesn't mean that a loose chainsaw can't find an artery
I'm one of the few customers who's gotten a refund check and spoke with a VP in Teterboro NJ. They are slime... the VP's are the worst; a midlevel manager is more likely to help you if you slip through one of the cracks in customer support.
If they take back without trouble, fine.
Otherwise better buckle up Dorothy, it's going be a rough ride.
Did you use a MC or Visa to make the purchase? If so you got leverage...
Send unit back for refund of replacement and do a charge back through the bank.
Do you want another? If not be clear you want a full refund.
Here's the thing I live in Malaysia, I bought it online, and these guys are a small retail start-ups.
They Imported the device from Hong Kong cause we are kinda short on phones that are price above $600. Malaysians don't really spend much on buying new phones hence the difficulty to find high end phones locally, especially Sony, not a popular pick in recent times.
Visa here doesn't even provide any leverage hahaha.
would try to send it back to their local store tomorrow.
I would actually like to get replace to be honest, but some how I have doubts in my mind saying that its gonna be super thought ride.
Have the rear cover removed, disconnect the battery*. Is there visible water in it?
Get out as much as possible.
You need a warm, dry room. Lay on side with a high volume fan on it. Let sit for a couple days.
If you can get anhydrous isopropyl alcohol** carefully flush with that to remove the water. Use care as if it gets between the glass and display it will leave a water mark. Then dry as above.
All connectors, everything must be 100% dry before you reconnect the battery. The room must be dry, heat drives out moisture; use a hot box if you must. Keep temperature under 110F. This may save it...
*the sooner the better.
** never use methanol or isopropyl that isn't at least 96% alcohol. Never use any solvent including isopropyl alcohol with LCD display, it will poison it!
I don't dare to remove the back cover, wont that void the warranty?
I think water got in the LCD connectors, cause last time I turn it on I has weird flickering and turns green with vertical lines.
SinclairLen said:
I don't dare to remove the back cover, wont that void the warranty?
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Yes it might.
That's a AMOLED display not a LCD...
I got some silica gel put in an air tight jar, its been sitting over night since yesterday, hope it turns on tomorrow, or else I am gonna feel so awkward when I bring it to their store.
Damn I've never brought a Xperia phone or any phone in for water damage or any sort of claim warranty before, its giving me the shakes.
SinclairLen said:
I got some silica gel put in an air tight jar, its been sitting over night since yesterday, hope it turns on tomorrow, or else I am gonna feel so awkward when I bring it to their store.
Damn I've never brought a Xperia phone or any phone in for water damage or any sort of claim warranty before, its giving me the shakes.
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That will do nothing. Do Not power it up.
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So I brought it to the store, there was a bit of resistance there, but in the end they allow me to bring it back in for a check.
They say hopefully there is no red on the water damage sticker, cause if there is, they cant help, but if its just faulty they can replace the phone.
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Yes it might.
That's a AMOLED display not a LCD...
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Sony use since xperia 1 an Oled display and not Amoled.
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That will do nothing. Do Not power it up.
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You'd be surprised at what silica dessicant beads can do.
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You'd be surprised at what silica dessicant beads can do.
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Heat drives out moisture. You need air circulation as well for best results. With a sealed phone that isn't going to cut it.
First any free standing water needs to be dumped out... that's sort of funny, but true.
If you every dealt with flood damaged cars the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. Powered on circuits can be damaged irreparably in a short amount of time. A lot depends on the conductivity of the water and how long it sits there. If the battery was disconnected the car may be salvageable.
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Heat drives out moisture. You need air circulation as well for best results. With a sealed phone that isn't going to cut it.
First any free standing water needs to be dumped out... that's sort of funny, but true.
If you every dealt with flood damaged cars the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. Powered on circuits can be damaged irreparably in a short amount of time. A lot depends on the conductivity of the water and how long it sits there. If the battery was disconnected the car may be salvageable.
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Heat can help but the point is to make the air inside the bag extremely dry. Air readily absorbs moisture, which eventually evaporates. Very true about keeping everything turned off; while deionized water is non conductive and won't bother anything, most accidental spills and drops are in contaminated water which not only can be conductive, but may leave behind trace elements as it evaporates.
Still, I've had quite good success with desiccant rescue bags.
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Heat can help but the point is to make the air inside the bag extremely dry. Air readily absorbs moisture, which eventually evaporates. Very true about keeping everything turned off; while deionized water is non conductive and won't bother anything, most accidental spills and drops are in contaminated water which not only can be conductive, but may leave behind trace elements as it evaporates.
Still, I've had quite good success with desiccant rescue bags.
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I've cleaned thousands of circuit boards over to remove the flux. Sticking them in a sealed container with dry air is one thing I never did to dry them. Anhydrous sopropyl alcohol is an excellent cleaning/drying agent for most electronics, but needs a dry room to avoid condensation as it evaporates. Dry warm/hot air with high air flow is best for both isopropyl and water. Most times I also used compressed air to knock off the solvent/water beads then dry the pcbs. A high air flow blower of a large shop vac was another favorite for drying them.
Heat drives out moisture ie hot box. Hot boxes have been used for over a century especially in humid climates to preserve surgical instruments, camera equipment and electronics. Works regardless of the outside humidity. The box or cabinet is sealed but not completely air tight.
The surgery room at Pennhurst actually had it's surgery instrument cabinets lined in the back with steam heated radiators, circa about 1900.
They had large glass doors.
You could vacuum dry it though as this be very effective but again the cover should to be removed at the minimum. It's easy to make a small vacuum chamber, the vacuum pump doesn't need to pull a high vacuum to work well at a warm temperature.
Desiccant bags are best used to keep sealed items dry rather than to remove water per se.
I use them to protect lens.
As for the conductivity of the water it's a crap shoot. It could be mixed with sweat, be acidic, or otherwise contaminated.
I used RO water to flush my Buds case when it fell into a full cup of coffee, cream and sugar. The RO water to chase the sugar, then anhydrous isopropyl alcohol to chase the cream and water. Allowed it to dry in the sun and in a room for a day with the spot welded battery in it. I had the case torn apart and flushed within 5 minutes. 2 years later it still works normally. I drank the coffee after I cleaned the case, perfect day
Silica gel works to a degree on my phone, the screen was able to turn on with the start-up logo but as soon it turns on it restarts itself.
I guess two day wasn't enough, especially on phones that are partially sealed, but I guess its true, not all phones are made equal when it comes to waterproof, I remember my XZ was completely waterproof, the swimming pool kind of waterproof.
Its like buying a lottery when you get a phone that fails its waterproof.
still waiting for update from the seller hahaha.