http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFtPNh6MfpU#action=share
Like most new phones op5 is basically glued together which provides some resistance to water.. so while I wouldn't worry about using the phone is light rain I still wouldn't trust it for underwater experiments. Water damage can also be tricky and start causing issues much later.
This video doesn't tell you anything. Oneplus tells you it isn't water resistant, so any potential water damage isn't covered by warranty. This experiment is the same as dropping the phone from 2 meters and having it not brake; it might happen, but it also might not. Do you want to take the risk?
nothing new here, you can find those kind of video from all oneplus devices and almost all popular phones.
My galaxy S3 was in a hot jacuzzi all night ( about 8 hours ), and after 3 years, it still working,
I drop many electronic devices in water, and it still working, even without the ingress protection.
Make sure to not power up the device before it's completely dry (about 2 weeks)
Op5 boards are probably IP ready, but the case is not sealed. You won't have any issue, until the oxydation is becoming bad.
The one plus is water resistant, however they didn't get it certified so people can't RMA for water damage. I think apple did something similar, the Nexus 6 is the same.
Although i wouldn't like to be the mug to test this theory.
That's pretty much how I'm looking at it. I won't stress if I get caught in the rain with it, but I'm not going to go swimming with it, either.
I can verify it's at least resistant to water. Dropped it in the sink three days ago. Got it up in about 5 seconds (it felt like 10 minutes, tho...). I quickly dried it with a hanky and then blow dried it. At first there was some glitching with the alert slider, but that went away after an hour. Now it's all good.
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I can verify it's at least resistant to water. Dropped it in the sink three days ago. Got it up in about 5 seconds (it felt like 10 minutes, tho...). I quickly dried it with a hanky and then blow dried it. At first there was some glitching with the alert slider, but that went away after an hour. Now it's all good.
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Water damage can show up weeks or months later. I hope your device isn't damaged, but I would definitely keep any non ipx7 or higher device away from water. Especially submersion.
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Hello there xda community... I am new to this forum and have just succesfully managed to wreck my Xperia Zs screen.
I have only wanted to clean my phone under the sink (its rated for low jets of water) wiped it dry and then after a few minutes, fractal structures if I may call it, started to creep up all over the screen.
It started slowly from the corners jumping all across the screen in seconds. (very weird)
I have uped some screen shots! This is my second Z i got. My first one, I exchanged it because it had burned pixels on the screen with which I could not live with.
I just dont seem to be lucky with this phone! :/
I had all ports closed and no water was detected by the detectors. I believe the leak came from the power or volume buttons but who knows?
I feel like my trust to Sony is broken.
I have seen others put it under the pool with no probs... but well someone has to be the lucky one! :/
I think am gonna turn back to my old Nokia 3330!
P.S do you think that I stand a chance of exchanging it since no water detection was triggered? Am going to try any way.
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Hello there xda community... I am new to this forum and have just succesfully managed to wreck my Xperia Zs screen.
I have only wanted to clean my phone under the sink (its rated for low jets of water) wiped it dry and then after a few minutes, fractal structures if I may call it, started to creep up all over the screen.
It started slowly from the corners jumping all across the screen in seconds. (very weird)
I have uped some screen shots! This is my second Z i got. My first one, I exchanged it because it had burned pixels on the screen with which I could not live with.
I just dont seem to be lucky with this phone! :/
I had all ports closed and no water was detected by the detectors. I believe the leak came from the power or volume buttons but who knows?
I feel like my trust to Sony is broken.
I have seen others put it under the pool with no probs... but well someone has to be the lucky one! :/
I think am gonna turn back to my old Nokia 3330!
P.S do you think that I stand a chance of exchanging it since no water detection was triggered? Am going to try any way.
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sorry to see that man, the best thing you can do is try and explain your reason...you can try to let it dry and exchange it.
Since under flaps there is no red colored markers, I belive you can get replacement. It looks like it was manufacturing defect phone and this should not happen. I was scared to put my second XZ under watter, feeling of flaps was like they were used and not able to close as they should, so I made small test step by step, but now I am sure it works. And yes, as some people use it under water in pools, I don't plan to do that hehe.
Wish you luck with service!
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Since under flaps there is no red colored markers, I belive you can get replacement. It looks like it was manufacturing defect phone and this should not happen. I was scared to put my second XZ under watter, feeling of flaps was like they were used and not able to close as they should, so I made small test step by step, but now I am sure it works. And yes, as some people use it under water in pools, I don't plan to do that hehe.
Wish you luck with service!
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So sorry to hear that. I hope you can get it replaced.
After playing around with it under the tap and a little bit of water to test the resistance on day 1, I decided to avoid water whenever possible.
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After playing around with it under the tap and a little bit of water to test the resistance on day 1, I decided to avoid water whenever possible.
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I'm just sat patiently waiting for mine, and the last thing on my list of things to do when it gets here is stick it under a tap to test it.
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I'm just sat patiently waiting for mine, and the last thing on my list of things to do when it gets here is stick it under a tap to test it.
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That's smart. I can say it is quite water proof however, I had a scare because the main speaker took nearly 12 hours to dry before it started working again. (I researched and found out this is normal as water gets in the speaker. So no more
It's nice knowing that during catastrophic accidents and heavy rain this phone will be functional though!
sorry to hear that this has happened.
That is definitely water ingress into the screen. since the front and back are glued into the frame it looks like that's where the failure occurred and water entered that way.
Since the water indicators are still white I would stand your ground until they give you a replacement.
Same scenario, my phone is under going rice treatment. I'm encountering a weird problem, my phone's LED went red and vibrated 3 times and went off. The cycle goes on and on and its about 5 hours since. Any way to resolve it? :crying:
Edit: Unable to get to fast boot, when unplugged the phone stops the cycle.
As said before, if the water ingress tapes are still intact (white) then take the phone for a warranty replacement.
To the OP - If and when you get a replacement, I would suggest not exposing the phone deliberately to water, especially not just to clean it. Get a microfibre cloth, for goodness sake!
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I precisely lock all the flaps and wash my Z from time to time.
No problems whatsoever, the only thing is that the loudspeaker get's stuck with water and you have to wait
for it for some time to come back to normal loudness.
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As said before, if the water ingress tapes are still intact (white) then take the phone for a warranty replacement.
To the OP - If and when you get a replacement, I would suggest not exposing the phone deliberately to water, especially not just to clean it. Get a microfibre cloth, for goodness sake!
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Thanks for the advices! I took it back today and got a replacement. I didnt say anything about the phone getting in contact with water. Infact they didnt even ask. They checked the tapes and looked suprised because to them it looked like something between a crack and a smudge though it didnt have the symptoms of a crack. (probably because of the sharp lines formed on the screen?) I just kept my mouth shut and was waiting for their question about water which never came. Anyway it ended with a happy end and I got my 3rd Xperia Z within 2 weeks! Awesome!!
So the moral of the story is do not get overconfident with water resistant stuff!
After this am thinking that I could have bought the S4 without all the disturbing flaps, since from now on am going to avoid water in every way. I had a quick look at it when I was at the shop...it really does not feel like a 5" screen comparing to the Z, but the screen is just a bit to colorful for my taste.
I am sure we will be seeing more of these water damages as time passes...
Water Resistance on the Z is more of a marketing "trick" than a reliable feature!
Hello, community.
My Xperia Z also got wet (for 1200th time) but this time is different than any previous - seems like water got inside my Xperia...so, I am not able to turn my phone on.
Actually, it was working for 15 minutes and just after shot down.
I used hair dryer...no luck, get reboot signal once and that's it.
An hour ago I bought some rice, placed Xperia into it...so, I will waiting for few days, who knows, maybe It is going to come back to life again
If so - great...If it doesn't - ok, I can live without it
Hi,
Just washed my gear 2 neo, in clean cold water right out of the tap, dried it with a towel, and it was stuck in a bootloop (like the home key got stuck) for about 5 mins, only after shaking it did it reboot normally.
Has this happened to anyone else??
Do I just have a dodgy Neo??
Its only 5 days since I purchased it, so should I request an in store replacement
Ghosty
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so what if its ip67.
dont take chances by putting it in water.
opdrago said:
so what if its ip67.
dont take chances by putting it in water.
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Lol, it can be submerged in water at 1m depth for up to 30mins, a guy on YouTube put his in a tub for 5mins and it came out fine, so running water should not be an issue. Its fine now and on charge. First time since it's initial charge as well, so 4.5 days and was at 30% when started.
so the next time dont wonder why the watch will not work.
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Lol, it can be submerged in water at 1m depth for up to 30mins, a guy on YouTube put his in a tub for 5mins and it came out fine, so running water should not be an issue. Its fine now and on charge. First time since it's initial charge as well, so 4.5 days and was at 30% when started.
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It is stated that a sheet of bullet resistant glass rated NIJ 1 can stop 9 mm bullet. Would you hold one up to your face and let someone test that?
The point is, just because the watch was designed to be water 'resistant' (not water proof) at 3 feet for 30 minutes, does not mean that it's not possible for it to get ruined. What if your seal was damaged by a drop on the floor, or perhaps a the gasket ring was damaged during assembly, etc..
"Shaking" the watch will not effect solid state electronics unless you have moisture or a faulty button (perhaps moisture?)
I saw many video on youtube where peoples put the 3T into the water and it survives. So is the phone secretly splash or waterproof or something like that?
https://oneplus.net/se/support/answer/is-the-oneplus-phone-water-resistant-or-waterproof
It's a thing that the manufacturer says (see Sony water resistance is not working) I mean like in real not at paper form.
I wouldn't bet on it being waterproof to the extent of phones that are advertised as such (iPhone, Samsung S7, S8 with their IP67, 68 ratings). Making the phone waterproof costs money, and it's a big marketing point. So it doesn't make any sense for OnePlus to have made it waterproof, and keeping it "secret".
Any modern phone is water resistant to some degree. Mostly, I expect phones to be able to survive some minor water on the outside, as you never know when you will be stuck outside in a sudden downpour. Or stray splash from a sink, etc.
Whether a phone survives being submerged depends on how much water gets into seams and ports (and speaker openings, etc.), and then once inside whether it gets to a spot that causes a short circuit or corrosion. On those points, just because the phone works right away after being submerged (such as in the videos - I just watched a couple) does NOT mean the phone will be free of the effects of water damage days/weeks later.
Therefore, I would not count on this phone being able to survive submersion. Treat it as you would any electronic, that is not waterproof. Minimize exposure to moisture, wipe it off and dry it immediately if it is exposed, etc.
I got my 3t spilled with water couple of times. The 3rd time the fingerprint scanner and the left capacitive button didn't work at all. So i just left it on a bowl of rice for couple of days and it works fine now. In conclusion, this phone is not water resistant.
Ah okay thanks the answers.
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I got my 3t spilled with water couple of times. The 3rd time the fingerprint scanner and the left capacitive button didn't work at all. So i just left it on a bowl of rice for couple of days and it works fine now. In conclusion, this phone is not water resistant.
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It is more likely the phone sitting for a few days with or without rice is what dried it out and has it working fine now. Just to clarify for others on this, it's a myth and has been proven by science many times that a bowl of rice does not actually do anything to dry out your phone's internals. Simply having your phone air out for a few days has been more effective than almost every other method found on the internet.
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Just to clarify for others on this, it's a myth and has been proven by science many times that a bowl of rice does not actually do anything to dry out your phone's internals.
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Do you have a decent link? I was curious, and searched. All I could find reference the same 2 "studies". One is posted on gazelle.com, and doesn't see much about the methodology or specific results, other than that rice is the worst of the substances they tested, in drying a sponge. No mention of the environment or other controls, sample size, etc.
The other often quoted study by TekDry appears to only have one data point for each condition (rice versus just drying in open air) which is definitely not science.
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..
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Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..
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The notification has gone but the phone is getting warm and it feels dampy.
I knoknows that depends of aambient conditions but I feel it different...
Thanks for your comment
Regards
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This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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I would try putting your phone in a bag of rice overnight to draw any water out that may have been forced in from the pressure of the running water. Never use soap on your phone or place it under running water. The soap lubricates the water and allows it to be more easily forced where it wasn't intended to go. I just use a microfiber cloth with lens cleaning solution sprayed on the cloth. Even doing this causes the moisture detected warning for a few.
Buy some anti-bacterial wipes to clean your phone with. There is absolutely no need to wash it with soap and water.
Conito11 said:
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..
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Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..
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Nice opinion and as you Said: waterproof is not the same like water resistant.
As I have seen reading several posts regarding this issue about claiming warranty due to water damage, it is very difficult if not impossible to get a device fixed by means of warranty under this circumstances, because the damage might be caused by exceeding the max allowed depth, or the time it was submerged and, if the device was put into a strong flow of water, as they can not verify anything about these possible scenarios, they refuse to make valid the warranty
This is silly.. It's supposed to be IP68. It got wet from low pressure tap water, I didn't mind because I know it's IP68. I was about to take a photo and noticed it's blurry, looked on the back and both the main and wide angle lenses are filled with water drops. So annoying.
The 5X lens is perfect for some reason, zero drops there.
I sent email to Giztop, I hope they can help.
Don't trust any phone to be watertight... many have learned the hard way.
Think of it more like being water resistant.
NEVER expose a phone to salt water. If -any- gets inside it's a sure death.
Damn.. I bought the 512/12 version just 5 months ago. What a sh*tshow..
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Damn.. I bought the 512/12 version just 5 months ago. What a sh*tshow..
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If it hasn't worked it's way to the mobo you should be fine after the clean out.
Just keep it powered down until then.
Truth be told the seals are rather puny on all phones. It's nice when they work, just don't count on it.
Realize that being under water 3 feet is 1.3 psi of pressure. It will find any openings... hence the max 30 minute warning on most "waterproof" phones.
Two ziplock freezers bags will make it waterproof for a couple inches to a few feet in depth. Even then I would keep an eye on it.
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If it hasn't worked it's way to the mobo you should be fine after the clean out.
Just keep it powered down until then.
Truth be told the seals are rather puny on all phones. It's nice when they work, just don't count on it.
Realize that being under water 3 feet is 1.3 psi of pressure. It will find any openings... hence the max 30 minute warning on most "waterproof" phones.
Two ziplock freezers bags will make it waterproof for a couple inches to a few feet in depth. Even then I would keep an eye on it.
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I had an LG V30 in the past.. It was in the water so many times , I figured IP68 can be trusted. I guess not all phones are made alike.
Anyway, I turned it off and it's sitting in rice (no idea if it actually works, but better than nothing).
My biggest worry is actually water marks on the camera glass after it dries. The main reason for buying this phone is the camera.
I already sent Giztop an email about it, let's see what they will reply.
Mine fell in a sink once but it was ok . Xiaomi waterproofing seems kinda hit and miss tbh
Forget the rice, eat it.
Heat drives out moisture even in a high humidity environments ie a hot box. Used in tropics to perverse lens, surgical equipment, etc.
Don't over cook it though
A constant 110F will work but it may take a spell.
The water will likely leave a residue but it may not be an issue. Try to gently tap it to the side so it will vaporize elsewhere.
I'm using a sous vide box , inserted a hair dryer in the whole of the sous vide and set the HD on low. Whenever it's turned on the moist goes away, as soon as I stop it comes back. Trying now 30 minutes or so, I'll update.
Giztop seems to avoid taking care of it, but I learned IP68 is not to be trusted. $1200 lesson.
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I'm using a sous vide box , inserted a hair dryer in the whole of the sous vide and set the HD on low. Whenever it's turned on the moist goes away, as soon as I stop it comes back. Trying now 30 minutes or so, I'll update.
Giztop seems to avoid taking care of it, but I learned IP68 is not to be trusted. $1200 lesson.
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It's not a expensive lesson yet... have it taken apart and dried.
That's probably the best option to avoid damaging it.