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[Q] Phone architecture

Is the samsung phone designed in a way that any contact with water ends up screwing it?

I doubt it since my wife dropped mine in the snow and left it there for about an hour. I found it dumped it in the rice jar and it was all good. Make sure you don't turn it on, and put it in a bowl of rice for about a day. Should be good, depending on the severity of water damage.

Dropped mine in snow too earlier this winter, wet snow. Didn't notice it, picked it up 5 minutes later.. Still on, still working. Dried it off, all is still well.

joelhon said:
I doubt it since my wife dropped mine in the snow and left it there for about an hour. I found it dumped it in the rice jar and it was all good. Make sure you don't turn it on, and put it in a bowl of rice for about a day. Should be good, depending on the severity of water damage.
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To speed the process you can put the phone and rice near a heater or tv. or some warmer than room temp area.

salt water is dangerous, but normal water less so.
my phone was in a fabric bag that was accidentally dipped into the ocean by my gf (which was only noticed hours later T_T, so it was left in a wet bag...). the bottom 3 buttons stopped working, but amazingly started working again after a couple of days (middle button needs a harder press though, probably because i stupidly and accidentally removed part of the contact point when trying to clean the salt off with a cotton swab).
So, I think the device is pretty tough!

Apparently the op5 is water resistant, check this out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFtPNh6MfpU#action=share

Like most new phones op5 is basically glued together which provides some resistance to water.. so while I wouldn't worry about using the phone is light rain I still wouldn't trust it for underwater experiments. Water damage can also be tricky and start causing issues much later.

This video doesn't tell you anything. Oneplus tells you it isn't water resistant, so any potential water damage isn't covered by warranty. This experiment is the same as dropping the phone from 2 meters and having it not brake; it might happen, but it also might not. Do you want to take the risk?

nothing new here, you can find those kind of video from all oneplus devices and almost all popular phones.
My galaxy S3 was in a hot jacuzzi all night ( about 8 hours ), and after 3 years, it still working,
I drop many electronic devices in water, and it still working, even without the ingress protection.
Make sure to not power up the device before it's completely dry (about 2 weeks)
Op5 boards are probably IP ready, but the case is not sealed. You won't have any issue, until the oxydation is becoming bad.

The one plus is water resistant, however they didn't get it certified so people can't RMA for water damage. I think apple did something similar, the Nexus 6 is the same.
Although i wouldn't like to be the mug to test this theory.

That's pretty much how I'm looking at it. I won't stress if I get caught in the rain with it, but I'm not going to go swimming with it, either.

I can verify it's at least resistant to water. Dropped it in the sink three days ago. Got it up in about 5 seconds (it felt like 10 minutes, tho...). I quickly dried it with a hanky and then blow dried it. At first there was some glitching with the alert slider, but that went away after an hour. Now it's all good.

thools60 said:
I can verify it's at least resistant to water. Dropped it in the sink three days ago. Got it up in about 5 seconds (it felt like 10 minutes, tho...). I quickly dried it with a hanky and then blow dried it. At first there was some glitching with the alert slider, but that went away after an hour. Now it's all good.
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Water damage can show up weeks or months later. I hope your device isn't damaged, but I would definitely keep any non ipx7 or higher device away from water. Especially submersion.

Doubt about get the phone under water

This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?

Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..

winol said:
Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..
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The notification has gone but the phone is getting warm and it feels dampy.
I knoknows that depends of aambient conditions but I feel it different...
Thanks for your comment
Regards

Conito11 said:
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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I would try putting your phone in a bag of rice overnight to draw any water out that may have been forced in from the pressure of the running water. Never use soap on your phone or place it under running water. The soap lubricates the water and allows it to be more easily forced where it wasn't intended to go. I just use a microfiber cloth with lens cleaning solution sprayed on the cloth. Even doing this causes the moisture detected warning for a few.

Buy some anti-bacterial wipes to clean your phone with. There is absolutely no need to wash it with soap and water.

Conito11 said:
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..

centaur31 said:
Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..
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Nice opinion and as you Said: waterproof is not the same like water resistant.

As I have seen reading several posts regarding this issue about claiming warranty due to water damage, it is very difficult if not impossible to get a device fixed by means of warranty under this circumstances, because the damage might be caused by exceeding the max allowed depth, or the time it was submerged and, if the device was put into a strong flow of water, as they can not verify anything about these possible scenarios, they refuse to make valid the warranty

Dropped phone in water

Last night the combination of a few beers while being sat in my hot tub ended with the inevitability of my Mate 20 slipping through my fingers to a depth of about 30cm before I managed to fish it out!
It had a black Spigen case on if that makes any difference. I turned it off (it was still working) took the case off and dried it as best I could.
Well... Turned it back on this morning (my alarm turned it back in). I'm happy to say, everything works as it should, no issues, as far as I can tell, sensors, sound, screen and charges as it should.
The mate 20 has an ip54 rating which suggests it's splash proof, I did find a website that had given it a 1min under the tap test which it survived without damage.
So, in summary.. it's good to know if your phone does ever find itself briefly submerged under water, chances are it will survive without too much drama.
Anyone else had a similar experience?
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Question The phone got wet and now there are water drops in the camera

This is silly.. It's supposed to be IP68. It got wet from low pressure tap water, I didn't mind because I know it's IP68. I was about to take a photo and noticed it's blurry, looked on the back and both the main and wide angle lenses are filled with water drops. So annoying.
The 5X lens is perfect for some reason, zero drops there.
I sent email to Giztop, I hope they can help.

Don't trust any phone to be watertight... many have learned the hard way.
Think of it more like being water resistant.
NEVER expose a phone to salt water. If -any- gets inside it's a sure death.

Damn.. I bought the 512/12 version just 5 months ago. What a sh*tshow..

galr said:
Damn.. I bought the 512/12 version just 5 months ago. What a sh*tshow..
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If it hasn't worked it's way to the mobo you should be fine after the clean out.
Just keep it powered down until then.
Truth be told the seals are rather puny on all phones. It's nice when they work, just don't count on it.
Realize that being under water 3 feet is 1.3 psi of pressure. It will find any openings... hence the max 30 minute warning on most "waterproof" phones.
Two ziplock freezers bags will make it waterproof for a couple inches to a few feet in depth. Even then I would keep an eye on it.

blackhawk said:
If it hasn't worked it's way to the mobo you should be fine after the clean out.
Just keep it powered down until then.
Truth be told the seals are rather puny on all phones. It's nice when they work, just don't count on it.
Realize that being under water 3 feet is 1.3 psi of pressure. It will find any openings... hence the max 30 minute warning on most "waterproof" phones.
Two ziplock freezers bags will make it waterproof for a couple inches to a few feet in depth. Even then I would keep an eye on it.
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I had an LG V30 in the past.. It was in the water so many times , I figured IP68 can be trusted. I guess not all phones are made alike.
Anyway, I turned it off and it's sitting in rice (no idea if it actually works, but better than nothing).
My biggest worry is actually water marks on the camera glass after it dries. The main reason for buying this phone is the camera.
I already sent Giztop an email about it, let's see what they will reply.

Mine fell in a sink once but it was ok . Xiaomi waterproofing seems kinda hit and miss tbh

Forget the rice, eat it.
Heat drives out moisture even in a high humidity environments ie a hot box. Used in tropics to perverse lens, surgical equipment, etc.
Don't over cook it though
A constant 110F will work but it may take a spell.
The water will likely leave a residue but it may not be an issue. Try to gently tap it to the side so it will vaporize elsewhere.

I'm using a sous vide box , inserted a hair dryer in the whole of the sous vide and set the HD on low. Whenever it's turned on the moist goes away, as soon as I stop it comes back. Trying now 30 minutes or so, I'll update.
Giztop seems to avoid taking care of it, but I learned IP68 is not to be trusted. $1200 lesson.

galr said:
I'm using a sous vide box , inserted a hair dryer in the whole of the sous vide and set the HD on low. Whenever it's turned on the moist goes away, as soon as I stop it comes back. Trying now 30 minutes or so, I'll update.
Giztop seems to avoid taking care of it, but I learned IP68 is not to be trusted. $1200 lesson.
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It's not a expensive lesson yet... have it taken apart and dried.
That's probably the best option to avoid damaging it.