Hey XDA, i just bought (another) Note 5, this time SM-N9208DX version shipped but not bought from Malaysia . It came sealed but has a knox code of 1 (0x500), I have searched all over xda and have seen two users with the same type of phone with the same knox tripped. While this is not too much of a problem, ill like to know what knox 0x500 means and if it cant be reverted, can i use secure folder without flashing a custom rom?
Knox is tripped and you won't be able to use Knox, Sexure folder, samsung pay and even Samsung health will refuse to open.
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Hi I have a note 4 (marshmallow 6.0.1).
If I tripped knox by either rooting or flashing a custom rom, and then if I decided to revert back say i unrooted and re-flashed the stock rom.
Assuming everything is back normal except that
now you have "knox warrnety void 0*1"
Will I still be able to:
-Enable Knox active protection from Samsung's "smart manager" app.
-Use "Samsung my knox" app
-Use Samsung pay or android pay
-Do OTA updates
Or is having a "stock non-rooted rom" still not enough and you won't be able to do all of the above as long as you have already tripped knox?
(Also apparently you cannot enable it while "rooted" even if you have managed to root it without tripping Knox).
Thanks in advance :good:
I did root my phone 2h after buying it and making sure everything works all right. Never regretted it. This info just for start if you have any doubts.
If you trip Knox and install sock Rom you will have force-close notifications from Knox app (at least I had). Just run debloating script through recovery and you will be fine.
Not sure about Ota updates, I did Kies update (to 6.0.1) and it worked. Never used my phone with Samsung or Android pay, wait for somebody else to reply.
xaforib said:
I did root my phone 2h after buying it and making sure everything works all right. Never regretted it. This info just for start if you have any doubts.
If you trip Knox and install sock Rom you will have force-close notifications from Knox app (at least I had). Just run debloating script through recovery and you will be fine.
Not sure about Ota updates, I did Kies update (to 6.0.1) and it worked. Never used my phone with Samsung or Android pay, wait for somebody else to reply.
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Alright thanks for your helpful reply, honestly I don't really care about knox app and Samsung pay if they are the only things affected
It was bootloop and stuck on samsung logo , then I install new firmware via samsung smart switch and working normal ,
But when i want to use samsung pay there is error ms " access denied" mine is N920I with stock 6.0.1
Please help me
jakarianto said:
It was bootloop and stuck on samsung logo , then I install new firmware via samsung smart switch and working normal ,
But when i want to use samsung pay there is error ms " access denied" mine is N920I with stock 6.0.1
Please help me
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You ever rooted your phone
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KatariaMax said:
You ever rooted your phone
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It was rooted , but now unrooted
jakarianto said:
It was rooted , but now unrooted
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Samsung Pay integrates Knox. Rooting your phone trips a Knox flag that can never be reset, and when that flag is tripped, Knox will not authenticate some actions such as Samsung Pay. This means you will not be able to use Samsung Pay any more. Verify your Knox security flag is now 0x1 (tripped/void) instead of 0x0 (secure/intact) to confirm this. I believe this flag is displayed in the bootloader and/or diagnostic menus. Magisk v12 offers an experimental option to fake a 0x0 Knox, if your Knox flag is already void it won't hurt to mod the phone again to try this. I haven't found anyone that has tried to use Samsung Pay after installing Magisk v12 so there are no guarantees if this will work.
andrewia said:
Samsung Pay integrates Knox. Rooting your phone trips a Knox flag that can never be reset, and when that flag is tripped, Knox will not authenticate some actions such as Samsung Pay. This means you will not be able to use Samsung Pay any more. Verify your Knox security flag is now 0x1 (tripped/void) instead of 0x0 (secure/intact) to confirm this. I believe this flag is displayed in the bootloader and/or diagnostic menus. Magisk v12 offers an experimental option to fake a 0x0 Knox, if your Knox flag is already void it won't hurt to mod the phone again to try this. I haven't found anyone that has tried to use Samsung Pay after installing Magisk v12 so there are no guarantees if this will work.
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Isn't 0x0 Knox the same as 0x1 Knox = 0?
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Isn't 0x0 Knox the same as 0x1 Knox = 0?
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"0x" means hexadecimal, not multiply by zero -_-
Can someone confirm if it works with Magisk v12. Really wish to use Samsung Pay but this tripped Knox thing is annoying.
badmaash said:
Can someone confirm if it works with Magisk v12. Really wish to use Samsung Pay but this tripped Knox thing is annoying.
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Sadly no, it dosent work already rooted with magisk v12 and no luck with spay. Just hoping it gets fixed in upcoming versions.
I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......
You can but still you will not get Samsung pay
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Hi
I flashed my old S6 with German firmware as I couldn’t wait any longer for O2 U.K. and that was ok but I never used payments on my phone back then... I wonder if it’s the same!?
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Did you ever manage to get this to work? I'm in a similar situation.
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I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......
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on the about section in settings, then under status , does the phone still show as "official" ? after you guys successfully flashed other region firmware ? this is a straightforward way to see if the phone is still "knoxed" or not, as i am wondering if the Samsung pay not working is due to georestriction or knox related? Because as i remember with my pre-previous phone the s7e that i rooted, tripped knox resulted in many Samsung apps locked with an original firmware as Samsung health, pass, pay secure folder etc but otherwise still usable.
Just remember that since the S7, once the phone is rooted or knox is triggered there is no way back even if you flash the original firmware and completely unroot it, knox is like an electric fuse and once it is broken there is no way to "unroot" or restore knox to official status except replace the motherboard (until s6 root and knox was software and fixable by flashing original firmware but since s7 knox counter is hardware)
Manage to change region by following this thread.
But I'm not using spay so can't confirm if it will make spay work or not. Knox won't be tripped so nothing to lose if you try it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...de-how-to-change-s9-s9-csc-model-csc-t3870836
Hello, I have successfully applied extreme syndicate root to my note9, but when I wanted to register for Samsung Pay, I always got stuck at the login screen, also I'm not able to use secure folders. Does anyone have the same problems, or does anyone managed to get them working? Thanks.
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Hello, I have successfully applied extreme syndicate root to my note9, but when I wanted to register for Samsung Pay, I always got stuck at the login screen, also I'm not able to use secure folders. Does anyone have the same problems, or does anyone managed to get them working? Thanks.
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With root you lose Samsung Pay and Secure Folder, there is no way you can get them back.. Even if you remove Root and Flash normal firmware Samsung Pay and Secure folder will never ever work!
When you rooted your Note 9, you have blown the Knox Efuse on the motherboard!
True for exynos models, once knox is tripped and they are gone. There is a work around for secure folder and for Samsung pay you'll need a Samsung gear watch.
For snapdragons (seems the OP has one since he is using Extreme Syndicate Root.) He should be okay flashing back the stock firmware. (Or things changed from note 8 to note 9 root?) The knox doesn't get tripped as it seems on exynos models.
Do a search on secure folder you should find a thread on it (maybe on the note 8 forums of xda but it should work for all phones.)
Samsung pay is gone when rooted hopefully the gear watch method still works. Don't have a gear watch then no go on rooted phones! But at least you can return to stock on snapdragons phones and have Spay working.
hello there
plz i need help.. how i can hide root for samsung pass?
Once you've rooted your device, you won't be able to use Samsung Pass. I don't think Magisk can hide it.
yes i try to hide samsung pass but still not working ..
AFAIK Samsung Pass is linked to Knox which is inhibited once the bootloader was unlocked....
You've tripped Knox so Samsung Pass will never work again.
You dun goofed
Yep. The others have already said it. You've rooted your phone... Which requires you to unlock your bootloader.... Which permanently trips Knox and prevents a bunch of Samsung apps (Samsung Pass included) from ever working again on that device.
You're SOL if you happen to need Samsung Pass and should've read through one of the three hundred threads on this forum section that have already mentioned this in the past few weeks lol.