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ICS. Isn't it overrated?

Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
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Sense fanboy rules out this whole statement. Going from cm7 to cm9 is extreme. If I wasn't on a cell I'd elaborate.
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ragapa97 said:
Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
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I guess ICS is a huge step for guys that never tried MIUI or don't like Sense Roms, for those o tried/like MIUI and Sense it is a question of just some more features.

ragapa97 said:
Hi all. I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101. After a month's use on the Asus and a week's use on the inc s, I've reverted to stock Rom on the Asus and to ARHD (almost stock) on the inc s. Correct me or convince me but I find ICS to be one big step sideways (or is it in the wrong direction)?. Your comments?
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I prefer sense ROMs.
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At least for devices built with/for Sense in mind, when it gets officially combined with ICS by HTC (later this year, they say), it may reveal a new light on the subject.
It might work great and be more stable/smooth and give you the desired Sense functions that current ICS ports don't have.
And only at 4.0.3, ICS may yet have places to go we will have to wait to see.
Maybe you are correct, still.. for now...
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ragapa97 said:
I've tried ICS on my IncS and on my Asus transformer TF 101.
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These two bits of information are key. Try it on a Galaxy Nexus / Nexus S and you may have a differing opinion.

well as st.matt said, you should try it on the galaxy nexus device and then only you will get the real taste of ice crem sandwich!
With better interface,power management,loads of new features...its definitely better than its previous versions.

@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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ragapa97 said:
@StMatt,
I agree better hardware, newer phone goes well with ICS. But does it mean that older phones with less RAM, slower single core processors can run the same OS with all bells & whistles? I have this inc s which I feel.is good enough with ARHD sense 3.0 (even sense 3.5 makes this phone groan & creak), so what is good for THIS device? ICS with all its refinements? Without some 'nice to have features' that Google has deliberately throttled in ICS? Or even the ICS upgrade with sense 3.5, that's due in Q2? Maybe the last option seems best IMHO. Anyone else like to refute?
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Doesn't have to do specifically with hardware. It means those phones and tablets have better support due to official releases.
Everything else that doesn't have an official release has devs trying their best to get it working, but not everything is working or disabled. Such as most HTC devices.

Sense 3.5 reduced my phone to a laggy mess, which is why I switched to miui. I'd be interested in seeing what the official release of ICS runs like when it's out.

When htc release the update to Ics there will be lots of Ics Roms that are really smooth and fast for the incredible s

yes agree with you. sens + ics in my opinion will be a step forward

I'm waiting too for ICS + sense. Lets get our hopes up..... Or not!
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After seeing the ICS ports by StMatt and Virtuous team, I'm having a sneaky, suspicious feeling that ICS + sense will make me wish for going back to gingerbread + sense.
ICS IMO has been a major disappointment, (just like the Niagara Falls have been the second major disappointment in an American bride's life).
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I've been running the Quattro ROM on my phone for almost a month now, and while that ROM does have some customization in it and still has a fair bit of bugs, I'd have a hard time going back to 2.3 even with the Sense. While Sense is really nice, Android before ICS did have a fair bit of lag on it and just didn't feel as smooth as things like iOS. With ICS, moving homescreens, swiping pages in applications, etc. just feels a little more natural and with less lag.
Plus, with Google Chrome for ICS, that's enough reason to go over. Miles above the stock Android browser!

Nik is releasing a sense+ ics rom tomorrow and I can't wait to try it. I tried all the other ics roms that are out for the incs and I have to admit that I'm quite disappointed. I use cm7 before I switched to trinity so niks New rom might be the one for me
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They're disappointments bcuz they're betas! FCs and shortages aside they look charming can't w8 for a miui 4 that's stable
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I guess they will truly be stable when htc releases the update at the end of march ... Right now I'm going to flash niks dream rom to tie me down
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Seems like some Microsoft initiated FUD campaign, in order to promote Windows 8; but whaddya know, there may just be some truth in the fact that "ICS has not been well received by phone / tablet manufacturers and ICS acceptance percentages have been way too little"
Maybe there is some truth in the blurb, and maybe the sour grapes feeling in me is really justified....
Read the link.....
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120215PD209.html[url]
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Do you think the ICS original rom will receive 3.X kernel?That would be awesome!

[Q] Broken between the Sense Edition and the Google Edition

So, I had my heart set on the One with Sense since it was announced and heard nothing but good reviews about it, but then the Google Edition was recently announced, it's basically a Super-Nexus. I currently have a Nexus 7 and a Droid X2 running CM10, so I'm familiar with Jellybean and like it very much!
So when I heard about the Nexus edition of the One, I was amazed. But then, I remembered since it's running stock Jellybean, it won't have the HTC only features like Zoe among others.
I'm open to the idea of changing the ROMs to get stock android if I bought the One with Sense on it...wait, is there a ROM that you can install to change to Sense 5 if I bought the Google edition!? That would be perfect if there was because I could try Sense if I wanted, but have Stock as my default and get all of Google's updates immediately!
I basically have to choose between:
HTC's Sense with all the Sense features and change the ROM to get to stock android. Slow to no OTA updates from Google.
Stock android with constant updates from Google as soon as they come out AND the stock experience. (Can still change the ROM)
I known this is a forum for the Sense HTC One, but what do you guys think? If you had this choice what would you do?

I just bought my HTC One a week ago, already having in mind that a Google Edition will be coming out, but as I don't live in the USA and given that it's going to be exclusive for the time being that wasn't such a big deal to me.
But I'm actually quite convinced that you are going to be able to switch from Sense to AOSP and vice versa, because they're the exact same hardware. Remember that tweak for the Optimus G that allowed you to basically turn it into a Nexus 4 from a software stand point? I'm sure there will be something similar to that and even if it's not supported officially, developers are going to find one way or another
I could even imagine something like an RUU to turn a regular One into a Google Edition. Well the 26th isn't that far away now, we'll see...

yes u will be able to switch roms

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yes u will be able to switch roms
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So there is ROM that will allow me to switch to Sense 5 if I buy a Google Edition HTC One?

AChavitez said:
So there is ROM that will allow me to switch to Sense 5 if I buy a Google Edition HTC One?
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There are several stock like roms with sense 5 in the android development section.
Read through and see which one suits you best.

Get the sense one. We already can change the phones identity so making it a Google edition shouldn't be any different
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The HTC camera is enough of a reason for me not to care about
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Just get either one, it doesn't matter much, to be honest. The Google Edition one has an unlocked bootloader and is probably S-OFF, and you can do both on the Sense edition as well. You can install any ROM you want on either one with no problems, whether sense-based or AOSP.

If u want a super nexus than this isn't the phone for you. Its not a nexus and never will be. I would go with the sense to get the great features. If you want stock it's better to get a nexus. (Just my opinion)
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To flash CM10.1 or remain with Sense 5 ROM

Hi guys.
I've been using sense 5 for a while now on my HTC One.
However I used cm10.1 on my nexus 4 and it was a pleasant experience.
I have no idea if it's worth the switch from stock sense 5 Roms to CyanogenMod Rom on the HTC One.
Did you replace your sense 5 Rom with a CM Rom?
Why did you switch and is it of any great benefit?
Thanks.
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To be frank its personal choice.
but there are few drawbacks of installing cm on this device. u will lose zoe , camera quality is a BIT lower, Bluetooth issues.
and off-course , you will lose awesome blinkfeed
but disregarding all those, its still a good daily driver.
and more-over, sense offers a much more professional and clean ui. you might start to like it soon.

I switched over to the Google Edition for a week and it was good. Buy for some reason, Sense just fits the One so nicely that I felt the phone was incomplete without it. And not just the feel, but Sense ROMs are actually tweaked and optimized towards the hardware, so theres an interrelationship too. I've come to appreciate Sense 5 due to this.
Just my two cents. :]
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[Q] Some questions and ideas about miui in HTC ONE

Hey, I just bought a HTC ONE but Im a big fan of Miui. Miui v5 was my main ROM in my previous desire S. But since I have been using HTC ONE 4.3 sense 5, Im kinda in love with some new features in it. But as I'm overwheamly fond of Miui, I also want to see its graphical beauty on my One. I'm sure there are many other users like me who want the beauty of miui as well as some functionality of new sense combined together. So here are some ideas from my mind and questions about miui ported rom to htc one:
1. There is no dedicated thread for ported miui rom in htc one. So we cannot know much about it. Well I guess it should be.
2. Is it based on sense or cm or aosp?
3. There are some videos in youtube showing HTC Sense based camera in miui in One. Some videos are also there which show the opposite (miui default camera lacking all new htc one camera features). So which is it? But in general, all of the videos are based on old miui roms.
4. I find HTC Sense camera, phone & contacts, message and new sense 5 gallery apps are pretty amazing in htc one. If camera app can be ported to miui, is there any way to port those other apps I mentioned?
5. Is there any possibiliy from Miui to bring android 4.3 or 4.4 for htc one in near future? Cause I think most of the users really want to use the updated android in their HTC ONE as stock 4.3 is already out and 4.4 is also on the way.
Thanks. I will be highly glad and helped if someone just feels kind enough to help me out with my questions.

Android_Attitude said:
Hey, I just bought a HTC ONE but Im a big fan of Miui. Miui v5 was my main ROM in my previous desire S. But since I have been using HTC ONE 4.3 sense 5, Im kinda in love with some new features in it. But as I'm overwheamly fond of Miui, I also want to see its graphical beauty on my One. I'm sure there are many other users like me who want the beauty of miui as well as some functionality of new sense combined together. So here are some ideas from my mind and questions about miui ported rom to htc one:
1. There is no dedicated thread for ported miui rom in htc one. So we cannot know much about it. Well I guess it should be.
2. Is it based on sense or cm or aosp?
3. There are some videos in youtube showing HTC Sense based camera in miui in One. Some videos are also there which show the opposite (miui default camera lacking all new htc one camera features). So which is it? But in general, all of the videos are based on old miui roms.
4. I find HTC Sense camera, phone & contacts, message and new sense 5 gallery apps are pretty amazing in htc one. If camera app can be ported to miui, is there any way to port those other apps I mentioned?
5. Is there any possibiliy from Miui to bring android 4.3 or 4.4 for htc one in near future? Cause I think most of the users really want to use the updated android in their HTC ONE as stock 4.3 is already out and 4.4 is also on the way.
Thanks. I will be highly glad and helped if someone just feels kind enough to help me out with my questions.
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You would be better off asking this on the MIUI forums. They are not well respected or actively developed here.

Advantages of 6 over 5

I've been away from the HTC phones for a few years. Picked up a Nexus 4 and stayed on aosp based roms.
Got myself an M7 a few days ago, unlocked the phone and flashed the latest ARHD which has Sense 6.
I find visually Sense 6 is less pleasing than 5 and 5.5, although that's probably just me.
Aside from a new Android version, are the advantages of Sense 6 definitely worthwhile.
Can't decide whether I will stay on Sense 6 or go back to an aosp based rom such as cm.
Mmmmmmm!!!!
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maritimesbob said:
I've been away from the HTC phones for a few years. Picked up a Nexus 4 and stayed on aosp based roms.
Got myself an M7 a few days ago, unlocked the phone and flashed the latest ARHD which has Sense 6.
I find visually Sense 6 is less pleasing than 5 and 5.5, although that's probably just me.
Aside from a new Android version, are the advantages of Sense 6 definitely worthwhile.
Can't decide whether I will stay on Sense 6 or go back to an aosp based rom such as cm.
Mmmmmmm!!!!
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To me the Sense features are what make the phone... Any phone will run an AOSP stripped down rom whats the point ?
You have blinkfeed / zoe / beats / TV remote / a nice gallery / a nice music player / a nice app drawer / a great settings layout /
If all that was available were plain jane AOSP / GPE phones you might as well be using an iPhone. And themers would be working overtime to get half the features you get in Sense 6.

Zoe got a nice upgrade in Sense 6 (don't know if 5.5 had the upgrade as well) I remember before, Zoe only took 3sec clips, now, if you hold the Zoe button, it will take longer clips than a quick 3sec one.
Sense 6 also has optional fonts and will work with font packs from the play store.
With the 4.4.2 and up versions, you also get the master key fix (big security bug) and in the 4.4.3 version, you get the fake ID vulnerability patch (another security bug).
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