So I was debating if I want to root my Samsung Galaxy S8 since I miss using mock location apps for PokemonGO. After looking online, I see that it will trip KNOX which will make Samsung Pay and Secure folder unusable. So I looked for more options...
Next option I found was to downgrade the security patch using Odin to before march 2017. Problem with that is my warranty will be void (so I've read) but KNOX won't be tripped. (Is this true)?
My question is, if I do downgrade the security patch, and it does void my warranty without tripping KNOX. And suppose for some reason I have to use my warranty again, will updating the security patch back to the latest one restore my warranty?
If none of these options are really working.... (I know wrong section but...) does anyone know of using mock location apps/ways that I can use on my S8 without running into trouble?
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Hawke84 said:
Lots of work went I to finding a solution on S4 when knox first came out including by chainfire with no luck. Also since october people have been trying to root note 4 without tripping knox with no luck.
There is no difference in the system of tripped and not tripped. Soon as anything unsigned or insecure is flashed the bootloader burns the efuse
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As you can see my idea was a bust but here is the original op
Correct me if I am wrong here, the reason knox is being tripped by cf auto root is because of the way it acquirers root not because it is rooted. With that in mind I would Like to make a tar ball with a pre rooted system.img with knox already disabled. To make sure it will have the best possibility to not trip knox and not cause a soft brick I want to use a system dump from a running phone that has only been rooted and knox disabled. I am pretty sure this has worked on every galaxy phone before the s6 and the only reason you don't hear more about it recently is because of the success of towelroot. I am getting this phone on the 1st (so excited) and would like root but want to try samsung pay more.
If you are willing to help I need the following:
Be on a 100% stock samsung bloated system with root (absolutely no tweaked systems I need pure stock with root)
Install supersu into /system (supersu settings)
Have supersu disable knox (If you know this by itself will trip knox please tell me)
Make a system.img dump with adb or terminal emulator and upload it for me (as long as you do not dump the data partition no personal data will be dumped)
At this point I will make the tarball and upload it and have the person who made the system dump flash the tarball. If he/she boots up fine I will the need a volunteer who has not rooted and verified that knox has not been tripped on his/her phone to flash it and see if knox still has its warranty. Obviously the volunteer should go into this not caring if knox gets tripped.
To make things completely clear I need the following:
Somebody who knows how to dump with adb/terminal emulator and already rooted
Somebody without a tripped knox warranty who doesn't care if it gets tripped
Post a replay if you want to supply the system.img so others know not to.
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Hi I have a note 4 (marshmallow 6.0.1).
If I tripped knox by either rooting or flashing a custom rom, and then if I decided to revert back say i unrooted and re-flashed the stock rom.
Assuming everything is back normal except that
now you have "knox warrnety void 0*1"
Will I still be able to:
-Enable Knox active protection from Samsung's "smart manager" app.
-Use "Samsung my knox" app
-Use Samsung pay or android pay
-Do OTA updates
Or is having a "stock non-rooted rom" still not enough and you won't be able to do all of the above as long as you have already tripped knox?
(Also apparently you cannot enable it while "rooted" even if you have managed to root it without tripping Knox).
Thanks in advance :good:
I did root my phone 2h after buying it and making sure everything works all right. Never regretted it. This info just for start if you have any doubts.
If you trip Knox and install sock Rom you will have force-close notifications from Knox app (at least I had). Just run debloating script through recovery and you will be fine.
Not sure about Ota updates, I did Kies update (to 6.0.1) and it worked. Never used my phone with Samsung or Android pay, wait for somebody else to reply.
xaforib said:
I did root my phone 2h after buying it and making sure everything works all right. Never regretted it. This info just for start if you have any doubts.
If you trip Knox and install sock Rom you will have force-close notifications from Knox app (at least I had). Just run debloating script through recovery and you will be fine.
Not sure about Ota updates, I did Kies update (to 6.0.1) and it worked. Never used my phone with Samsung or Android pay, wait for somebody else to reply.
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Alright thanks for your helpful reply, honestly I don't really care about knox app and Samsung pay if they are the only things affected
Hey XDA, i just bought (another) Note 5, this time SM-N9208DX version shipped but not bought from Malaysia . It came sealed but has a knox code of 1 (0x500), I have searched all over xda and have seen two users with the same type of phone with the same knox tripped. While this is not too much of a problem, ill like to know what knox 0x500 means and if it cant be reverted, can i use secure folder without flashing a custom rom?
Knox is tripped and you won't be able to use Knox, Sexure folder, samsung pay and even Samsung health will refuse to open.
I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......
You can but still you will not get Samsung pay
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Hi
I flashed my old S6 with German firmware as I couldn’t wait any longer for O2 U.K. and that was ok but I never used payments on my phone back then... I wonder if it’s the same!?
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Did you ever manage to get this to work? I'm in a similar situation.
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I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......
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on the about section in settings, then under status , does the phone still show as "official" ? after you guys successfully flashed other region firmware ? this is a straightforward way to see if the phone is still "knoxed" or not, as i am wondering if the Samsung pay not working is due to georestriction or knox related? Because as i remember with my pre-previous phone the s7e that i rooted, tripped knox resulted in many Samsung apps locked with an original firmware as Samsung health, pass, pay secure folder etc but otherwise still usable.
Just remember that since the S7, once the phone is rooted or knox is triggered there is no way back even if you flash the original firmware and completely unroot it, knox is like an electric fuse and once it is broken there is no way to "unroot" or restore knox to official status except replace the motherboard (until s6 root and knox was software and fixable by flashing original firmware but since s7 knox counter is hardware)
Manage to change region by following this thread.
But I'm not using spay so can't confirm if it will make spay work or not. Knox won't be tripped so nothing to lose if you try it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...de-how-to-change-s9-s9-csc-model-csc-t3870836
G'day XDA Developers.
I would love to root my Samsung Galaxy S10 then install a custom recovery (TWRP) then flash a custom rom (LinageOS) how ever I trip Knox when ever I attempt to do these things. So I was wondering how do you go about disabling Knox?
After some Googeling I found this site https://www.progeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-samsung-knox/ How ever these methods require you to first root your phone but rooting triggers Knox.
So I am at a loss here I am running stock android rom until I figure out how to bypass Knox.
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G'day XDA Developers.
I would love to root my Samsung Galaxy S10 then install a custom recovery (TWRP) then flash a custom rom (LinageOS) how ever I trip Knox when ever I attempt to do these things. So I was wondering how do you go about disabling Knox?
After some Googeling I found this site https://www.progeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-samsung-knox/ How ever these methods require you to first root your phone but rooting triggers Knox.
So I am at a loss here I am running stock android rom until I figure out how to bypass Knox.
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you cant completely block knox...
unlocking bl and flashing modified firmeare wil trip knox.. u cant reset knox flag either
Update: You can disable Knox by using Multidisabler: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ynos/g97xf-multi-disabler-encryption-t3919714
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Update: You can disable Knox by using Multidisabler: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ynos/g97xf-multi-disabler-encryption-t3919714
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thats always been around lolol.. but regardless ur post was more about not tripping knox which ur knox is in fact tripped so "disabling" knox doesnt change anything really.. also, that zip doesnt really disable knox.. it disables verification, defex, force encryption etc.
Actually it says that it disables vault keeper which is supposed to replace Knox but any way yea your right my post was more about flashing anything trips knox so how are you supposed to get around that.
OzGreatAndTerrible said:
Actually it says that it disables vault keeper which is supposed to replace Knox but any way yea your right my post was more about flashing anything trips knox so how are you supposed to get around that.
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vaultkeeper is not to replace knox.. samsung bases all their security on knox.. vaultkeeper is in addition to knox..
there is no way around tripping knox.. the knox warranty bit is a physical fuse that gets blown when bl is unlocked and u flash a custom firmware and there is no way to reset it..
magiskhide can sometimes "fake" it but with safetynet improving if ur device is set to use hardware then there wont be any way around that either in the long run
elliwigy said:
vaultkeeper is not to replace knox.. samsung bases all their security on knox.. vaultkeeper is in addition to knox..
there is no way around tripping knox.. the knox warranty bit is a physical fuse that gets blown when bl is unlocked and u flash a custom firmware and there is no way to reset it..
magiskhide can sometimes "fake" it but with safetynet improving if ur device is set to use hardware then there wont be any way around that either in the long run
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If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
ryanallaire said:
If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
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it will likely cause most samsung apps not to work unless theres any tricks that still work also
ryanallaire said:
If your not worried about warranties or anything then tripping Knox doesn't matter?
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I don't care about voiding warranty. What happens when I try and flash anything custom on the device Knox gets tripped and the phone refuses to boot. Thats what I am talking about trying to bypass.
I have Galaxy Tab Active3, which is locked to organization and it seems to have Knox enabled.
I want to Factory reset it so I can use it for private use.
I cannot get it into download mode, but I can get it in recovery mode. However, the Wipe data/factory reset option seems to be disabled.
Dialing *#0*# and *#*#88#*# from emergency dialer do not work either.
Any advice how to remove the Knox protection and factory reset the device, so I can set it up from scratch and remove the organization lock?
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I have Galaxy Tab Active3, which is locked to organization and it seems to have Knox enabled.
I want to Factory reset it so I can use it for private use.
I cannot get it into download mode, but I can get it in recovery mode. However, the Wipe data/factory reset option seems to be disabled.
Dialing *#0*# and *#*#88#*# from emergency dialer do not work either.
Any advice how to remove the Knox protection and factory reset the device, so I can set it up from scratch and remove the organization lock?
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I would be interested in, too.