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Curious if anyone made the jump from a S8+ to a Note 8? Was there enough difference to make it worth the upgrade?
I have the AT&T version which I'll return once the unlocked version I ordered comes in. I'm glad I made the switch but for me it's the slight change in shape that makes it for me. I like the S pen but could live without, battery has been about as good, still new so it needs to settle in but otherwise I'm happy.
Right now (in my country) used S8+ goes for about 720$ and new S8+ is like 830$, and new Note8 goes for 1190$. I'm waiting for N8 price drop - suspecting that next month it will be about 1050$, and then I'll definitly switch
It depends on what kind of user you are. The big difference is the sPen, obviously. If that's something you see yourself using then yes, it's worth the upgrade. Otherwise, I'd say no. The screen bump isn't monumental, the extra RAM is only useful if you're an extreme multitasker, and performance is largely the same.
IMO yes. Im note user and lover
The phone shape to me is better.
Been missing my spen for a while. The fingerprint sensor is in a better loctaction. The camera takes better photo.
The extra ram makes it a bit faster/smoother.
So to me worth the upgrade.
Yes it was worth it for me. Adding to the reasons already mentioned.
S8+: Only allows 7 apps in memory.
Note8: 29 apps are kept in memory at once.
Now I am not sure if the # of apps is hard coded, or its based on how much ram the consume, but its a huge difference. I play a game (Star Wars: Galaxy of Heros) and on the S8 every time I was out of the game for an hour or more it would normally need to reload. On the Note8 I have come back to the game the next day and its still loaded. Its great!
You can see the proof here:
My cousin has the S8+ and my Note feels a hell of lot more high end than his. I think it's worth the switch just because of looks and feel. Then you get the S Pen that I use every day. It's so nice to go through your phone with the S Pen.
I own both, but the S8 Plus has better battery life, even tho the Note8 battery life is excellent!
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I own both, but the S8 Plus has better battery life, even tho the Note8 battery life is excellent!
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Absolutely agree with this 110%.
I enjoy the dual camera setup, the additional width, and the less muted screen edges.
I don't miss my S8+.
Note 8 is all about s-pen and it's the only one, if you don't care about the pen, personally I don't see compelling reason to upgrade and since you're asking, probably there isn't one.
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Curious if anyone made the jump from a S8+ to a Note 8? Was there enough difference to make it worth the upgrade?
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The Note 8 is NOT an upgrade, its not designed to be.
The 8 series of Samsung mobile phone consist's of three models, the S8, S8+ and the Note 8. All three models are similar and are there to fit an individual choice. One is a smallish mobile the other a phablet and the Note fills a small niche market and caters for those who use the S-pen and its software.
Most people don't want the S-pen that is why the S8+ is there but some don't want a phablet that is why the S8 exists.
I own the S8+ and regret deeply buying it as I wanted the Note but me being me I had to go and spend silly money four months ago to then go and spend even more silly money for the mobile I have wanted since owning my two Note 7's. I now own the mobile I am content with and man does that take some doing. I have owned around five phones this year alone. There won't be anymore until maybe the Note 9. Read that maybe as a certainty (help!!!)
It serves zero purpose to compare the three models they are as different as the Mercedes E class in salon, convertible and coupe, all have identical major parts but vary in some area of style, size and usage etc.
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Well Worth investment.
It's worth the upgrade if you're looking to multitask heavier, As with Note 8 you can get the ability to use sPen plus there is dual camera included along with the legandary S8+ camera. Battery life is about the same but on some occasions, you may experience shorter battery life compared to S8+.
I have both S8+ and note 8. Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed. Not only that, the extra 2gb of ram works wonders.
The S8+ I had constantly closing apps having to reload almost everything.
The note 8 I have not had any apps reload.
I also like the square shape more as well as less curved edges.
Very happy with the note 8 over S8
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I have both S8+ and note 8. Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed. Not only that, the extra 2gb of ram works wonders.
The S8+ I had constantly closing apps having to reload almost everything.
The note 8 I have not had any apps reload.
I also like the square shape more as well as less curved edges.
Very happy with the note 8 over S8
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I suggest you not to mention the "Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed", You'll experience stuttering and lag within six months of usage. You were too quick to make judgements, The Galaxy S8 Plus 128GB with 6GB RAM is already experiencing stuttering in the grouped notification.
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Yes it was worth it for me. Adding to the reasons already mentioned.
S8+: Only allows 7 apps in memory.
Note8: 29 apps are kept in memory at once.
Now I am not sure if the # of apps is hard coded, or its based on how much ram the consume, but its a huge difference. I play a game (Star Wars: Galaxy of Heros) and on the S8 every time I was out of the game for an hour or more it would normally need to reload. On the Note8 I have come back to the game the next day and its still loaded. Its great!
You can see the proof here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nls6AiPkJsc
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I have to agree with this reason alone. The s8+ feels sluggish compared to how the note 8 performs. Not regretting the move.
Note 8 for me is worth it. 1st device I have owned that I dont care to root. Its amazing the way it is..7hrs screen time average.. even pulled 8hrs.
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I suggest you not to mention the "Huge difference to me in terms of fluidity and speed", You'll experience stuttering and lag within six months of usage. You were too quick to make judgements, The Galaxy S8 Plus 128GB with 6GB RAM is already experiencing stuttering in the grouped notification.
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I understand what your saying since we are talking samsung device here. But i never understood why people say "itll lag within 6 months" , then why not just factory reset every 6 months? If in fact this note 8 slows to a crawl after 6 months, taking 20 minutes out of my day to do a factory reset is not an issue. Its not like its even painful anymore, now all the apps install and sync by themselves, keep app data and logins.
I've had the S8+ for 5 months and while its not slow, its janky UI lag has been present since day 1 of owning the device. Note 8 is way better in this regard.
It's all about the s-pen. Well worth it if you use the pen on a regular basis. The shape also feels better to me. I use mine alot for work, I keep spreadsheets and PDF files on here alot and take pictures and draw notes on top with s-pen , and that makes it irreplaceable to me. My recent stint with the s7edge made me really miss the note series and I ended up using the note 5 alot until the note 8 came out. I have had all the notes since the note 2.
Hope this helps
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I understand what your saying since we are talking samsung device here. But i never understood why people say "itll lag within 6 months" , then why not just factory reset every 6 months? If in fact this note 8 slows to a crawl after 6 months, taking 20 minutes out of my day to do a factory reset is not an issue. Its not like its even painful anymore, now all the apps install and sync by themselves, keep app data and logins.
I've had the S8+ for 5 months and while its not slow, its janky UI lag has been present since day 1 of owning the device. Note 8 is way better in this regard.
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The Note 8 has a greater IQ than some of its owners. What you write is common sense and unfortunately passes over some owners heads. :crying: I often feel sorry for the Note 8 and not its owner.
Rather inflammatory post! Must have got out the wrong side of the bed this morning. Stuff it.
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Note 8 for me is worth it. 1st device I have owned that I dont care to root. Its amazing the way it is..7hrs screen time average.. even pulled 8hrs.
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^^This.^^
My first Android phone was a Droid Incredible. There were definitely advantages to rooting which outweighed the random restarts and occasional bootloops. The more advanced the phones become, the less I see a need to root. I wasn't even inspired to root the LG V20.
I've seen zero lag in this phone especially after boosting the animations to .5. I'm not much of a themer, but Substratum seems to have that base covered. It seems that a creative mix of Tasker and AutoTools can do wonders to a phone without rooting. In short, the last custom ROM I ran was for the Note 7. There was no advantage to me. Your mileage may vary.
Back to the Note 8/S8 discussion... the Note 8 has the cameras the S8 doesn't have. It has more memory than the S8. The screen is bigger... nominally... than the S8+, and there's the S-pen. If that's important to ya... or if having the latest and greatest is, buy the Note 8.
Since I'm now waiting until September 5th or so for my phone, I want to live vicariously through you all who are slowly getting your phones!
Post your initial impressions here!
What do you think of the phone? Anything surprise you? Note8 owners, any noticeable improvements/changes? Is it smooth and amazingly fast? How's the new fingerprint scanner location? What's the AnTuTu score in the 512/8?
Anything Note9 related is appreciated to whet my appetite until mine comes in! ?
So... What's everyone thinking? I know a bunch of you got your phones today! Is it gorgeous? Is it buttery smooth? Etc.
I helped a friend set up their Unlocked 512 GB/ 8 GB RAM model today, I'm still waiting on mine. First impression, the blue is really great looking. In some lights it's midnight blue, and in others it looks silvery blue. The yellow S-Pen is a bit cheesy looking, but not a deal breaker. The phone feels sturdy, just like the Note 8. The slight height reduction combined with the slightly greater width make the phone feel more balanced than the Note 8. Speed wise, the Note 9 boots up very quickly compared the Note 8. There was no lag when navigating menus, and the phone only froze once for a few seconds in the 2 hours I used it, which could likely be attributed to the backup restore in progress. Samsung definitely has achieved "buttery smooth" performance and it feels a bit faster than the Note 8. The speakers are very loud and clear and in my opinion are the biggest improvement over the Note 8. It's too soon to tell battery performance. We had a Note 8 and S8+ next to the Note 9 to compare, and the Note 9 had 1-2 bars of better reception than the others. I'm not sure if this is due to calibration or the Note 9 just has stellar reception. Either way, I was impressed.
Final thoughts: After using a Note 8 for a year, my biggest gripes have been the terrible speaker, the awkward height to width ratio, the mediocre battery life at times, and the occasional app stability issues. From what I can see, the Note 9 fixes all of those issues and should be a great upgrade. I'd say if upgrading from the Note 8, getting the 8 GB RAM version would be the only one worth upgrading to considering the price and how great the Note 8 is already.
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I helped a friend set up their Unlocked 512 GB/ 8 GB RAM model today, I'm still waiting on mine. First impression, the blue is really great looking. In some lights it's midnight blue, and in others it looks silvery blue. The yellow S-Pen is a bit cheesy looking, but not a deal breaker. The phone feels sturdy, just like the Note 8. The slight height reduction combined with the slightly greater width make the phone feel more balanced than the Note 8. Speed wise, the Note 9 boots up very quickly compared the Note 8. There was no lag when navigating menus, and the phone only froze once for a few seconds in the 2 hours I used it, which could likely be attributed to the backup restore in progress. Samsung definitely has achieved "buttery smooth" performance and it feels a bit faster than the Note 8. The speakers are very loud and clear and in my opinion are the biggest improvement over the Note 8. It's too soon to tell battery performance. We had a Note 8 and S8+ next to the Note 9 to compare, and the Note 9 had 1-2 bars of better reception than the others. I'm not sure if this is due to calibration or the Note 9 just has stellar reception. Either way, I was impressed.
Final thoughts: After using a Note 8 for a year, my biggest gripes have been the terrible speaker, the awkward height to width ratio, the mediocre battery life at times, and the occasional app stability issues. From what I can see, the Note 9 fixes all of those issues and should be a great upgrade. I'd say if upgrading from the Note 8, getting the 8 GB RAM version would be the only one worth upgrading to considering the price and how great the Note 8 is already.
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Drool.
That is what I'm doing. Note8 to Note9 512. I am with you with those gripes of the otherwise fantastic Note8. Also, I'd add fingerprint scanner to that list of gripes. Glad they fixed that too!
Thanks for the detailed review! I can't wait to get mine in a couple weeks! It will be worth the wait I'm sure.
I received my 128gb version on the 22nd and it's a nice incremental upgrade from the Note 8. Unfortunately we've gotten to the point where the wow factor isn't there anymore in phone designs.
The larger battery, S Pen remote and stereo speakers are nice but if I wasn't on T-mobile and wanted to take advantage of their low band spectrum and I didn't get a $500 credit for my old Note 5 I wouldn't have upgraded from the Note 8.
Coming from an unlocked Note 8 on AT&T to the Ocean Blue unlocked 512gb Note 9, I am very VERY happy! Some will say the cost is bad, i get 300 off for trading in the old S7E so for me it was 1000 out the door from Samsung directly. I am a note fan, and have notes since the Note 2.(S7E was due to the recall on the note 7 twice).so I am a bit biased towards the note to begin with. With that said , speakers , the storage the ram the color were major deciding factors. I can't believe how fast and smooth it has ran for 3 days now. Even set up day was awesome, downloading hundreds of apps and still able to use the phone with very little slow downs was awesome. I am also lucky not to have light bleed , crooked cameras or bad white balance . This fixes all the little , minute problems with the note 8 and then just kills with great performance. Just waiting for Samsung's 512gb microSD to complete the package.
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Coming from the S9+ 9650 SD model, all I can says is FRAMES!
Had the Note 9 for 72hrs and it's dropping frames quite a lot. It's the Exynos model, 512gb UK edition. Love everything else about it, so will return and buy an SD version from Hong Kong.
Have to say, the S9+ I have is unbelievably fast and fluid, nothing like any other Sammy I've owned. So impressed, I honestly cannot think of one moment of lag or frame drop, so I'm hoping it's processor related and going SD for Note 9 will give me the same experience.
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Coming from the S9+ 9650 SD model, all I can says is FRAMES!
Had the Note 9 for 72hrs and it's dropping frames quite a lot. It's the Exynos model, 512gb UK edition. Love everything else about it, so will return and buy an SD version from Hong Kong.
Have to say, the S9+ I have is unbelievably fast and fluid, nothing like any other Sammy I've owned. So impressed, I honestly cannot think of one moment of lag or frame drop, so I'm hoping it's processor related and going SD for Note 9 will give me the same experience.
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That's backed up by data too. Exynos processor really sucks in this phone, sadly. Way worse scores on benchmarks and looks like real life performance matches it.
I'm very impressed, came from a pixel 2 xl and off gate noticed a huge difference in quality, the pixel feels cheap and hollow the note is solid and has substance. No point in comparing the screens as that is well documented. Speakers are light years better on the note. I thought I missed stock Android after a stint of going through note 4 and 5 then S7 edge, and came back for the Note 9 and I must say stock Android is not really all the exciting and leaves alot to be desired. All in all this was well worth it.
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I'm very impressed, came from a pixel 2 xl and off gate noticed a huge difference in quality, the pixel feels cheap and hollow the note is solid and has substance. No point in comparing the screens as that is well documented. Speakers are light years better on the note. I thought I missed stock Android after a stint of going through note 4 and 5 then S7 edge, and came back for the Note 9 and I must say stock Android is not really all the exciting and leaves alot to be desired. All in all this was well worth it.
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I agree. The Pixel is amazingly smooth and takes phenomenal pictures. But it's just sort of... Boring. Especially by comparison. The Samsung features are actually very useful. I was a huge AOSP ROM guy back in the day because Samsung had such a crappy UI. It's gotten so much better, and the hardware is good enough to run it smoothly.
Really enjoying mine. Liking using the S-Pen more than I remember previously (last Note was the Note 5)
In it's first big test, the battery wasn't great, but I was using it a lot for photos and 4K video. Screen only came to just under 600 lumens which surprised me. Speakers sounds great, but I'd hoped for a little louder.
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Really enjoying mine. Liking using the S-Pen more than I remember previously (last Note was the Note 5)
In it's first big test, the battery wasn't great, but I was using it a lot for photos and 4K video. Screen only came to just under 600 lumens which surprised me. Speakers sounds great, but I'd hoped for a little louder.
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My screen was definitely brighter on my note 8.
Is the UK Exynos version that bad as I'm tempted to just cancel my order... First Samsung I'll be having just thought it looked good and the Samsung upgrade programme is good as means don't have to fork out all in 1 go.
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I've not heard there's an issue with the UK Exynos version? What's the issue?
Just all the people in here and the forums Ive seen. The SD processer being so much more superior.
And the Exynos frame drops...
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I've not heard there's an issue with the UK Exynos version? What's the issue?
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Yeah, I've read of frame drops, lag, and the AnTuTu score is like 40000 less, which is pretty significant!
Hmm dunno wether to wait give it a go. Then if not happy send it back. Not even sure Samsung will let me do that. Or just cancel my order. As it's nearly been a week and no movement. But then to be honest not sure which other phone to look at and wanting dual SIM. Hmm..
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Yeah, I've read of frame drops, lag, and the AnTuTu score is like 40000 less, which is pretty significant!
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I'm returning my Exynos 512gb. As I said in a previous post, my SD S9+ is by far the most smooth Sammy I've used. My primary reason for getting it was battery life. I purchased the Exynos UK version at launch and the battery was awful, so returned it. Then read the Anandtech feature and understood why, so took a punt on the SD version and couldn't be happier.
Call me cynical, i can't help but think that this new wonder cooling system is for the benefit of the Exynos models, allowing Samsung to get performance on par with the SD845, which in my experience it hasn't.
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I'm returning my Exynos 512gb. As I said in a previous post, my SD S9+ is by far the most smooth Sammy I've used. My primary reason for getting it was battery life. I purchased the Exynos UK version at launch and the battery was awful, so returned it. Then read the Anandtech feature and understood why, so took a punt on the SD version and couldn't be happier.
Call me cynical, i can't help but think that this new wonder cooling system is for the benefit of the Exynos models, allowing Samsung to get performance on par with the SD845, which in my experience it hasn't.
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I'm really tempted to do the same. Not good waiting for it and seeing posts it's not actually all it's cracked up to be.
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Is the UK Exynos version that bad as I'm tempted to just cancel my order... First Samsung I'll be having just thought it looked good and the Samsung upgrade programme is good as means don't have to fork out all in 1 go.
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exynos version is just as fast as the snap 845. synthetic benchmarks like antutu tend to score the 845 higher as the graphics card on the 845 is better. Single and miulti core cpu tests average out the same and in some cases better on the ex.
So need to replace my razer phone and not sure what to get. I like the fact that oneplus 6 is faster and already on pie but also like the spen. Can anyone who has either come from oneplus 6 or have both phones please comment especially on performance differences between the 2 please thanks.
If you want speed stay on op6... If you want other stuff.. get the note 9
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If you want speed stay on op6... If you want other stuff.. get the note 9
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Generally true. But if you reduce the animation speeds on N9 the percieved difference on normal tasks is much less.
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marvi0 said:
So need to replace my razer phone and not sure what to get. I like the fact that oneplus 6 is faster and already on pie but also like the spen. Can anyone who has either come from oneplus 6 or have both phones please comment especially on performance differences between the 2 please thanks.
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Any particular reason you want to move away from the RazerPhone or, not upgrade to the RazerPhone2?
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Generally true. But if you reduce the animation speeds on N9 the percieved difference on normal tasks is much less.
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You could do the same on your OP6 which makes te difference the same again...
@marvi0:
I switched from an OP6 and haven't regretted it since. Yes, the OP6 is absolutely awesome and the UI is quite a lot faster than the Note 9(exynos) running Samsung Experience.
But the Note 9 still is impressively fast and of course full of features. It's a 'no concession' phone packed with everything you can think of, hard- and softwarewise. It's the feature packed OS and top quality hardware that do it for me. The speakers are awesome in contrast to the OP6's tinny speaker and the battery lasts all day everyday. Also the camera's are among the best the market has to offer, it takes stunning pictures.
But in terms of speed and stability it just can't compete with the OnePlus 6 running Oxygen OS. That thing is just insanely fast(especially unlocking it with fingerprint or face) and quite stable actually. When you're in an app there's no detectable difference, but any action that involves Oxygen OS just happens instantly. So if that's your thing and you don't care about (sometimes gimmicky) features too much, I'd stick with the OP6.
Also you should not expect the same 'power to the users' attitude from Samsung. They do listen to the community, but kind of do it on their own terms and only when they feel like it.
I have both, the note is international version, seriously day to day use I feel no real difference but differently the op6 is snappier. And oneplus is the newer phone in my hand, I just loved the red color and got it as a second phone BUT, U get what u pay for in this case, note 9 has a much better screen, longer battery life, huge difference in speakers and noeird software issues (for example I can't download pubg from the play store on my op6) plus of course the Samsung extras ip68 spen dex bla bla bla
If u need an advice go for the note, it's selling as the same price as op6t on eBay which is just crazy stupid since the OP suppose to be half the price
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You could do the same on your OP6 which makes te difference the same again...
@marvi0:
I switched from an OP6 and haven't regretted it since. Yes, the OP6 is absolutely awesome and the UI is quite a lot faster than the Note 9(exynos) running Samsung Experience.
But the Note 9 still is impressively fast and of course full of features. It's a 'no concession' phone packed with everything you can think of, hard- and softwarewise. It's the feature packed OS and top quality hardware that do it for me. The speakers are awesome in contrast to the OP6's tinny speaker and the battery lasts all day everyday. Also the camera's are among the best the market has to offer, it takes stunning pictures.
But in terms of speed and stability it just can't compete with the OnePlus 6 running Oxygen OS. That thing is just insanely fast(especially unlocking it with fingerprint or face) and quite stable actually. When you're in an app there's no detectable difference, but any action that involves Oxygen OS just happens instantly. So if that's your thing and you don't care about (sometimes gimmicky) features too much, I'd stick with the OP6.
Also you should not expect the same 'power to the users' attitude from Samsung. They do listen to the community, but kind of do it on their own terms and only when they feel like it.
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Hmm many thanks for your detailed reply. The note 9 you moved to is it the 6gb or 8gb variant?. I will be getting the 6gb variant and just like you I feel the extra features on Samsung do help overall,without even mentioning the ? spen. I think am definitely leaning towards a note 9 thanks.
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I have both, the note is international version, seriously day to day use I feel no real difference but differently the op6 is snappier. And oneplus is the newer phone in my hand, I just loved the red color and got it as a second phone BUT, U get what u pay for in this case, note 9 has a much better screen, longer battery life, huge difference in speakers and noeird software issues (for example I can't download pubg from the play store on my op6) plus of course the Samsung extras ip68 spen dex bla bla bla
If u need an advice go for the note, it's selling as the same price as op6t on eBay which is just crazy stupid since the OP suppose to be half the price
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Hi thanks. The note 9 you have is it the 6gb or 8gb variant?
I have both OP6(8,128) and Note 9(6,128).
For me, I use Note 9 to watch videos, becsuse it has a wonderful screen and powerful speakers.
I use OP6 to browse news, play games and communicate with others.IT IS SUPER FAST AND SMOOTH.
btw, I bring Note 9 to work. It is a nice tool,while OP6 is more likely a toy.
Get the Samsung note 9 it's almost as fast as the one us 6 or 6t lacked with more features
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Hmm many thanks for your detailed reply. The note 9 you moved to is it the 6gb or 8gb variant?. I will be getting the 6gb variant and just like you I feel the extra features on Samsung do help overall,without even mentioning the ? spen. I think am definitely leaning towards a note 9 thanks.
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I moved from the 128/8GB OP6 to the 512/8GB Note 9. I do feel like the extra 2GB is a bit useless though. I rarely fill more than 6 GB's of RAM.
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Hi thanks. The note 9 you have is it the 6gb or 8gb variant?
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6gb my friend.
As said, note 9 is a great multifunctional tool, op6 it's a wonderful toy
I bought One plus 6 256 GB Storage 8 GB ram and using it 2 months then switch to Note 9 Exynos 6GB.
What I don't like
1. USB port sucks. only able to charge and transfer data. Can't connect with external devices.
2. If you root you get Widevine L3
3. Battery level sucks. almost not survive 1 day.
4. Only one speaker.
6. no wireless charge.
What I love.
1. It's extremely fast.
2. It's brick free. you can unbrick it by yourself.
3. Android Pie Stable ROM come very fast.
4. lack of bloatware.
5. Even you root your device. warranty won't void.
6. Dash charge is extremely fast.
7. OxygenOS is clean and stable.
The reason I change to Note 9 because mine was defect unit and I got a refund.
Mine was Widevine L3 no matter how I or Remote support guys were trying to fix it. It need to be sent to service center to fix it and it has none in Thailand.
If I can choose again I will choose one plus 6 and keep my extra money for something else.
Phew so based on you lovely guys views the note 9 has all the bells and whistles but it lacks the power and speed of the oneplus 6. That worries me though as speed does matter.
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Phew so based on you lovely guys views the note 9 has all the bells and whistles but it lacks the power and speed of the oneplus 6. That worries me though as speed does matter.
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I have both the OP6T & Note 9.
The performance is comparable,any speed difference is negligible in daily use (unless you spend your days doing side-by-side comparisons,LOL).
If I had to choose,it's no contest,the Note 9 for the win.
If you value the S-Pen & Dex,the Note 9.
If not,save some $$$ & get the OnePlus,even going back to last year's OP5 or 5T.
I'm not picky on cameras,as long as the phone is quick to snap a relatively clear/sharp pic,it's all good to me.
If cameras are your thing,perhaps some Googling/YouTube search is in order for comparison.
Coming from someone who had the 6t and switched to the note 9 (paid $50 for restocking fee) I think the note 9 is a much better device. Hardware is better the battery is better, display is better and all those extra features are just the icing on the cake. Trust me.
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Phew so based on you lovely guys views the note 9 has all the bells and whistles but it lacks the power and speed of the oneplus 6. That worries me though as speed does matter.
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The Note 9 does not lack speed. It's like the comparison between a BMW M5 and a Ferrari. The BMW does not lack speed at all, but the Ferrari remains quite a bit faster. The BMW however does do/have a ton of other practical things that a Ferrari can't.
And like I said, you'll only notice the difference in speed in UI actions and not when running apps. In terms of power the two devices are basically capable of doing the same thing because of their SOC's. However, you might want to go for a Note 9 if you're a gamer or use some heavy apps as it has liquid cooling. My OP6 did warm up quite a bit when running CAD apps or games like Asphalt 9, the Note 9 stays noticeably cooler.
Having owned both phones it's hard to say because both are really good phones and you can't go wrong with either or.
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just received an update with 1 november security update, battery so far is way better on standby (exynos version here) which was my main complain about this beast.
i disagree that both can do the same things, no other phone can do this:
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just received an update with 1 november security update, battery so far is way better on standby (exynos version here) which was my main complain about this beast.
i disagree that both can do the same things, no other phone can do this:
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Very true, no other phone handles multitasking as well as Samsung flagships and especially the Note series! What I meant with capability of doing the same things was the performance of the SOC's.
So looking at the note 10 designs it looks like its going to have the hole punch. ( which I dont like)
At the moment the note 9 8gb version is on sale at £649. Trade in of my 6gb version will get me £340.
Is it worth the £309 price difference to get the extra ram and storage and the hybrid sim version bearing in mind I'm going to stick with the note 9 until at least the note 11?
Not in my opinion, I doubt you'd notice the extra ram that much and you could buy an SD card for much cheaper if you really needed extra storage.
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So looking at the note 10 designs it looks like its going to have the hole punch. ( which I dont like)
At the moment the note 9 8gb version is on sale at £649. Trade in of my 6gb version will get me £340.
Is it worth the £309 price difference to get the extra ram and storage and the hybrid sim version bearing in mind I'm going to stick with the note 9 until at least the note 11?
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In my opinion, it depends on what you do with your phone...
Do you play heavy games or daily basis activities?
If only daily basis activities (Email, Gmail, Word, Excel, Facebook, Reddit, Telegram or others) then 6GB would be enough, my opinion only.
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No, 6gb is enough
Save your money. Your existing note will be good until it dies. Companies keep adding minute changes to their "next flagships" to play with our minds to buy their new phones. They want your money is all it is. Keep your note 9. But it you have the extra cash then have at it.
I've had both and you absolutely cant tell a difference
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In my opinion, it depends on what you do with your phone...
Do you play heavy games or daily basis activities?
If only daily basis activities (Email, Gmail, Word, Excel, Facebook, Reddit, Telegram or others) then 6GB would be enough, my opinion only.
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That worked on you? You know it's all a gimmick right?
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That worked on you? You know it's all a gimmick right?
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Not sure why someone thinks the ram would effect game performance.. especially when going from 6gb to 8gb lol. I don't think most people know what ram really is or does honestly.
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Not sure why someone thinks the ram would effect game performance.. especially when going from 6gb to 8gb lol. I don't think most people know what ram really is or does honestly.
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Hum Does not affect games... right... well smart guy... please clarify us... and tell us what RAM is and how does this not affect games...
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Hum Does not affect games... right... well smart guy... please clarify us... and tell us what RAM is and how does this not affect games...
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Ram is random access memory and effects how many applications stay open in the background. If you're planning on running ten resource heavy games open at once maybe. Game performance would be much more heavily impacted by the GPU and CPU performance than by the amount of ram (which from 6 to 8gb would have no effect whatsoever I would guess). Unless you're planning on switching back and forth between two very intensive games I can't see why this would benefit you.
How about you instead tell me how it benefits game performance? Smart guy lol
I have 8/512 note 9, only reason is i need 2 things.. huuge storage and 2 sim cards...if no need for 2 sims i would get 6/128 and stick sd card inside
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Ram is random access memory and effects how many applications stay open in the background. If you're planning on running ten resource heavy games open at once maybe. Game performance would be much more heavily impacted by the GPU and CPU performance than by the amount of ram (which from 6 to 8gb would have no effect whatsoever I would guess). Unless you're planning on switching back and forth between two very intensive games I can't see why this would benefit you.
How about you instead tell me how it benefits game performance? Smart guy lol
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The current industry of smartphone tech reminds me of the PC age. Not to mention, when ram levels started increasing and folks kept closing out their background apps to "get the device to be faster." I still chuckle at those days.?
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The current industry of smartphone tech reminds me of the PC age. Not to mention, when ram levels started increasing and folks kept closing out their background apps to "get the device to be faster." I still chuckle at those days.?
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Or when they kept putting out higher and higher megapixel cameras because people thought megapixels = quality lol
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Or when they kept putting out higher and higher megapixel cameras because people thought megapixels = quality lol
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Manufacturers are trying to get us back to wanting more megapixels yet again; they got us hating bezels because our phone started to be good enough to keep for more than a year; they got us obsessed with the amount of RAM there is in our phones and how the CPU benchmarks. I've got a Note 9 and a Mi Max 3 and I honestly could happily use either of them day-to-day. Manufacturers in all industries have a duty to make us want to crave things, and they do a good job of it. To answer the question though - no the OP should not upgrade unless they have money to burn as RAM will have absolutely no difference on gaming performance or day-to-day performance - it's just a psychological up-sell to get people to get the 512GB model. Also did you really say you'd be effectively selling your Note for £349??
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Manufacturers are trying to get us back to wanting more megapixels yet again; they got us hating bezels because our phone started to be good enough to keep for more than a year; they got us obsessed with the amount of RAM there is in our phones and how the CPU benchmarks. I've got a Note 9 and a Mi Max 3 and I honestly could happily use either of them day-to-day. Manufacturers in all industries have a duty to make us want to crave things, and they do a good job of it. To answer the question though - no the OP should not upgrade unless they have money to burn as RAM will have absolutely no difference on gaming performance or day-to-day performance - it's just a psychological up-sell to get people to get the 512GB model. Also did you really say you'd be effectively selling your Note for £349??
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Yes that is the trade in price.
After reading lots of posts (as well as this one) about the 2 different models I'm going to stick with what I've got. I have a 256 sd card so I have plenty of storage and as regards ram unless your doing a speed test side by side I dont think I'm going to notice. I'm probably going to stick a sim only sim in September when my contract ends and hold out with the 9 until i either break it or something revolutionary comes out. Which i doubt.
Another thing that i think the 9 has in its favour is the fact that it DOES have a forehead and chin as when watching videos you dont cover any of the screen where as with a real edge to edge like the s10 and most probably the note 10 i think it will be an issue let alone the pesky hole punch!
Thanks for all the replies
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Or when they kept putting out higher and higher megapixel cameras because people thought megapixels = quality lol
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Yes that is the trade in price.
After reading lots of posts (as well as this one) about the 2 different models I'm going to stick with what I've got. I have a 256 sd card so I have plenty of storage and as regards ram unless your doing a speed test side by side I dont think I'm going to notice. I'm probably going to stick a sim only sim in September when my contract ends and hold out with the 9 until i either break it or something revolutionary comes out. Which i doubt.
Another thing that i think the 9 has in its favour is the fact that it DOES have a forehead and chin as when watching videos you dont cover any of the screen where as with a real edge to edge like the s10 and most probably the note 10 i think it will be an issue let alone the pesky hole punch!
Thanks for all the replies
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I sometimes use an older iPhone and I really do love the bezels as far as usability goes. All the newer phones lead to me catching UI elements - for example I'm a big YouTube watcher and the only phone I've used recently where I never accidently skip videos when moving my phone around is the iPhone. The other downside to bezels being removed is that phones really do all look pretty much the same now.
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clax6 said:
Yes that is the trade in price.
After reading lots of posts (as well as this one) about the 2 different models I'm going to stick with what I've got. I have a 256 sd card so I have plenty of storage and as regards ram unless your doing a speed test side by side I dont think I'm going to notice. I'm probably going to stick a sim only sim in September when my contract ends and hold out with the 9 until i either break it or something revolutionary comes out. Which i doubt.
Another thing that i think the 9 has in its favour is the fact that it DOES have a forehead and chin as when watching videos you dont cover any of the screen where as with a real edge to edge like the s10 and most probably the note 10 i think it will be an issue let alone the pesky hole punch!
Thanks for all the replies
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As for RAM, whatever anyone says, it has no bearing on actual application speed - all RAM does is hold applications in memory. Apps are flushed from memory according to space and the particular memory setup the manufacturer implements. Some manufacturers throw loads of RAM at their devices but their battery management is so brutal that it's almost worthless.
Google themselves think 4GB is enough, and cynicism aside, they do actually write the OS, which the manufacturers don't. If anyone knows how much RAM is necessary it's Google IMO. I can't think what would motivate them to think otherwise. Unless you have applications hogging loads of RAM, the worst you can expect with less RAM is that an application you had open a while back has to re-open again. With 6GB of RAM this should rarely be an issue, and many apps freeze their state anyway
Tend to agree that you likely wouldn't see much benefit with extra RAM and I certainly don't think extra 2Gb at a cost of £300 is good value.
That said I can see the appeal of 512Gb internal storage versus 128Gb
If you really want an 8Gb / 512Gb Note 9 then wait until Note 10 is on sale, I guarantee Note 9 price will fall significantly and the difference to upgrade to 8Gb / 512Gb Note 9 will likely be less expensive.
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its a pickup right?
like the ones people like to have "in case they need to hull stuff" which happens 2 x every 5 years.
or like when constructions workers think they need a pickup because coming to work in a car is so unprofessional but unfortunately everyone knows ure not aloud to use your own personal machinery on construction sites.
or even: pollution on 4 wheels?
lol ok jokes over.
You won't notice any difference between the 6GB and the 8GB models
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So looking at the note 10 designs it looks like its going to have the hole punch. ( which I dont like)
At the moment the note 9 8gb version is on sale at £649. Trade in of my 6gb version will get me £340.
Is it worth the £309 price difference to get the extra ram and storage and the hybrid sim version bearing in mind I'm going to stick with the note 9 until at least the note 11?
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Monitor your memory usage. If you never approach 6GB utilization, then you'll never gain anything with an extra two GB. Have you filled 128 GB with content you couldn't put on a $50 SD card?
What do you guys suggest? Anyone here or the T1 Tacital watch? Sorry to part question [emoji41]
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I use my Galaxy S3 Classic with it without any issues. It's an older smartwatch but in the world of Android smartwatches still one of the best available options. I briefly owned the newer version of Samsung's offering, the stainless steel variant of the Active2 watch, but I found that it didn't offer much if anything in terms of improvements to the S3 Classic, while sacrificing a lot in design and practicability of the UX.
For Android you'll want to go with one of the new offerings with the gig of RAM, makes a huge difference in the GUI where they are vastly more smooth in operation. I'd set my sights on either the Gen 5 or TicWatch Pro. The Samsung devices work better with Samsung phones but still work ok with other android phones and have much better battery life but you give up all the options Wear brings with it. There are often big sales on smartwatches, often enough I'd consider it worth defining which one I wanted and waiting for a good sale to pick it up.
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For Android you'll want to go with one of the new offerings with the gig of RAM, makes a huge difference in the GUI where they are vastly more smooth in operation. I'd set my sights on either the Gen 5 or TicWatch Pro. The Samsung devices work better with Samsung phones but still work ok with other android phones and have much better battery life but you give up all the options Wear brings with it. There are often big sales on smartwatches, often enough I'd consider it worth defining which one I wanted and waiting for a good sale to pick it up.
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I'm curious - what options is he giving up because my understanding is that Wear watches are literally the worst wearables out there with the least useful features. Samsung devices are regarded as only second to Apple and work with any Android device. Genuine question.
Nah, the feature set was never the problem, it was the performance and poor battery life. I haven't owned an Apple watch and I'm not going to as the iphone is an answer to a question I never asked. Being as it's not a part of this discussion or going to be used on this phone I think we can set it aside. The Sammy offerings have much better battery life, it's not even close, and that is their primary benefit. They did also have far better performance but that has changed so long as you get one of the new offerings with a gig of RAM. Now the performance is much closer although I'd still give the nod to the Samsung devices. It is close enough however that it becomes a matter of features and available apps to my mind unless you have a Samsung phone and use their apps, in that case I'd go all in with Samsung. Now that wear can legitimately make it through a long day of use before it needs to go on the charger and the sluggish performance has been fixed wear becomes much more compelling than it once was. You have many more apps, watch faces, etc. Integration with Google maps is much better which is a big plus if you travel.
There was a reason why I mentioned both, Google essentially gives you options that you cant get with Samsung, the Samsung still has much better battery life and it's tight integration makes it better on Samsung devices but still good on other android phones if you're not missing any apps that you could have had on wear. It's something a user needs to make some calls on in terms of what they want. The only absolute mistake you can make here in my opinion is getting an older wear device without the extra ram, you want the 3100 and the 1 gig; that's a must have.
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What do you guys suggest? Anyone here or the T1 Tacital watch? Sorry to part question [emoji41]
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I'm using a Fitbit Versa 2 & have been very satisfied with it.
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Nah, the feature set was never the problem, it was the performance and poor battery life. I haven't owned an Apple watch and I'm not going to as the iphone is an answer to a question I never asked. Being as it's not a part of this discussion or going to be used on this phone I think we can set it aside. The Sammy offerings have much better battery life, it's not even close, and that is their primary benefit. They did also have far better performance but that has changed so long as you get one of the new offerings with a gig of RAM. Now the performance is much closer although I'd still give the nod to the Samsung devices. It is close enough however that it becomes a matter of features and available apps to my mind unless you have a Samsung phone and use their apps, in that case I'd go all in with Samsung. Now that wear can legitimately make it through a long day of use before it needs to go on the charger and the sluggish performance has been fixed wear becomes much more compelling than it once was. You have many more apps, watch faces, etc. Integration with Google maps is much better which is a big plus if you travel.
There was a reason why I mentioned both, Google essentially gives you options that you cant get with Samsung, the Samsung still has much better battery life and it's tight integration makes it better on Samsung devices but still good on other android phones if you're not missing any apps that you could have had on wear. It's something a user needs to make some calls on in terms of what they want. The only absolute mistake you can make here in my opinion is getting an older wear device without the extra ram, you want the 3100 and the 1 gig; that's a must have.
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This is really good feedback. Maybe I should look at some Android Wear options again. I extended the life of my S3 by replacing the battery, and it is still a stellar option but one thing I always disliked was poor integration with Google Maps (relies or 3rd party app). It would be much better to have something native, closer to what one would encounter on an Apple Watch.
The Gen 5 is pretty good especially if you can get it for less than regular. It was $172 a few weeks ago on Amazon. I've had it since August and it's not perfect but I think very good. Battery isn't an issue for me as I just top off in the morning while getting ready and when I get home from work, a good 14-15 hours later with usually 40% or so to spare.
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I've had the Sammy s2 and s3, and I DID like them a lot, at least at first. They were smooth and the battery life was good, but, the OS and features seemed pretty basic. I hated the workout app, and the only other offerings were terrible. Also, Samsung support suuuccckkks... It was like talking so someone who was just hired and had no idea what they were talking about.
Anyway, I have a Fossil Q Explorist 4 HR and I love it. It IS a little jittery sometimes, so you should definitely go with a gen 5, but it's great. Tons of apps to choose from, it looks great (I wear it to the office even), and battery life is almost on par with the s3. I take it off the charger at around 6:30am and at 10pm I typically have 40-ish% left. It would certainly last a full day.
One word of warning if someone might be setting their sights on a Ticwatch Pro: Get the LTE even if you don't want to use LTE because it has the extra RAM, the older version that is not LTE does not have it and it suffers from the sluggish GUI problem that all Wear watches had up until the recent offerings with the upped RAM. I know it's tempting because the LTE version is more expensive but you really, really, want that RAM, it completely alters the user experience while manipulating the GUI. Much, much smoother, apps load faster, etc.
Pebble Time Steel in Gold! Until a watch that can match the battery life (10 days!) + features comes along, I'll be sticking with my Pebble. Recently picked up another Gold, because my 4 year old one finally had the battery worn out too much, and also got a black one too.
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One word of warning if someone might be setting their sights on a Ticwatch Pro: Get the LTE even if you don't want to use LTE because it has the extra RAM
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Yes definitely this. 1GB RAM makes the difference. I believe it has the old 2100 processor but that's not really much a factor for performance as RAM is.
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ryandanger said:
Pebble Time Steel in Gold! Until a watch that can match the battery life (10 days!) + features comes along, I'll be sticking with my Pebble. Recently picked up another Gold, because my 4 year old one finally had the battery worn out too much, and also got a black one too.
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Classic. I got the original Pebble when it was on Kickstarter.
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I bought the Fossil Carlyle on sale and it's really been great and it came with 3 watch bands that swap out easily. I had a Moto 360 Gen 2 that fell apart a few months ago so I was in the market. I just looked at the new Moto 360 and it looks really nice. The price tag is a little over the top at $350 but it should come down. I'm a little gun shy when it comes to Moto since the support was horrendous previously. Hopefully, it's gotten better.
Yep, the old Ticwatch pro uses the 2100 so it doesn't have the co-processor for ambient mode like the 3100. In their case they have the second display which also uses little power so it negates some of the loss but not all of it as the ambient isn't as efficient as it can be with a 3100 and lacks the 16 colors, adaptive brightness on ambient, etc. Still it doesn't change the performance when manipulating the GUI where both are using the same A7s so the felt performance is similar to a 3100 when the extra ram is in the mix.
The 3100 offers nothing in terms of a performance increase. It is literally a 2100 then Qualcomm slapped on the coprocessor and called it a day. The major difference will come from the extra gig of RAM which WearOS desperately needs. When you compare a 512 MB device to a 1GB device the performance difference is quite staggering. I have the TW Pro 4G using the JanJan rom and I couldn't be happier with the performance. Ball is still in Google's court to make something out of WearOS and for Qualcomm to stop being lazy scumbags.