Hi,
No OTA updates for me as my Z2 Pro is running some merchant version as I have multiple languages available.
With that in mind, do I need to update to latest ZUI software, or simply unblock bootloader, root and flash custom rom?
At the moment I am at 2.1.120 ST
Same here. That's international ROM, which does not support OTA. I believe I'm gonna flash latest ZUI using QFIL method (there's a thread "How to flash stock ROM") but there's not much info about this latest ZUI version.
Both of you are best served following any of the guides to flash the stock rom via QFIL. After that you're free to decide how to continue (OTA, Custom ROM, Custom Recovery...)
Thanks, will do.
By the way, I bought the device specifically to go straight to a custom ROM. I had a really easy time flashing the stock rom, updating through OTA (didn't even need VPN for some reason) and then unlocked bootloader, flashed TWRP and AEX. The whole setup works quite nicely.
And according to a number of threads the device should be close to unbrickable. But I haven't verified that myself
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Hello Developers!
Here I will put forth instructions required for successful upgrade to lollipop. (These instruction are based on my own experience. I have been using Sony Xperia and Nexus phone for quite a while and I have flashed lot of roms. I may not have much experience in developing but definitely lot of experience in flashing! )
So, motorola has officially put up release notes here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/102639
So the questions that are bugging most people are:
1. When will the OTA be available in particular country?
2. Will I be able to smoothly able to upgrade and gain root access on Android L?
For first question: I really can't help you there. It depends on motorola. Android upgrades are rolled out region by region. So OTA will hit your phone when it is available in your region.
Second question:
To answer that, let us first consider few things.
New bootloader:
The very first note on release notes put out by Motorla says that: You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update. It means that new bootloader has been included in the update which does not allow downgrading.
ART runtime:
Android L uses new Android Runtime (ART). Some applications have not yet been optimized for ART and have problems with ART. To make sure the apps which you require daily work fine with ART, read the changlog given by its developer. If it has not yet been optimized then request the developer to optimize it for ART. If I am not wrong tools to develop apps using ART were released when Google released L preview. So you can expect many apps have been already optimized for ART.
When will the upgrade fail and when will it won't?
1. Locked/Unlocked bootloader:
If you have locked/unlocked bootloader but HAVE NOT CUSTOMIZED or HAVE NOT MESSED WITH RECOVERY AND KERNEL partition then don't worry. OTA upgrade will definitely hit your phone and you will be able to smoothly upgrade to L.
2. Modified kernel/recovery partition and root:
If you have rooted your moto g then it means you unlocked your bootloader, flashed a custom recovery and flashed the superuser binary. In this case you won't be able to upgrade to android L. According to few article I have read, you have to be completely stock before update. Completely as in you shold have never rooted your phone or flashed a custom kernel. Even if you have unrooted after rooting or flashed a stock kernel/recovery after flashing custom kernel/recovery is NOT allowed for Android L upgrade.
3. Unstable internet connection while downloading OTA.
Unstable connection might corrupt the OTA upgrade file. Make sure you have stable internet connection while downloading OTA.
Considering all these there you are in one of the following scenarios:
1. Locked/unlocked bootloader with no customizations to any partitions:
Don't worry. You won't face any problems with OTA upgrade. Just make sure all your apps work fine on ART.
2. Unlocked bootloader with stock/custom rom and sotck/custom kernel with root or unrooted after root:
You will need to flash official kitkat firmware. Official firmware images for Moto G 2014 are located here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36
Then you can upgrade via OTA.
3. Unlocked bootlaoder, root but do not want to lose root priviliges:
Then you will need to wait till developers modify new custom roms based on android L. Then you can flash those by following their instructions. To root stock android L build, a custom kernel is required and also according to chainfire the system.img will be need to be patched. So it is not possible to root sotck android L unless motorola release kernel sources and some developer pathces the system.img.
I have no experience in handling/using/modifying carrier locked phones. So I cannot help you with those.
I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT TO FLASH STOCK/CUSTOM LOLLIPOP ROM OF DIFFERENT MOTO G VARIANT.
Enjoy and happy flashing!
Nice info, thanks!
Also: you need 850 MB of available space or the OTA update will refuse to download.
Thanks man!
It the only thing you did is unlock boot loader and no more... And do the ota update, might boot loader stay unlocked?
El_Froz said:
Thanks man!
It the only thing you did is unlock boot loader and no more... And do the ota update, might boot loader stay unlocked?
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Yes it will stay unlocked.
Any disadvantage in unlocking boot loader other than voiding the warranty? We will still get future OTA updates?
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Any disadvantage in unlocking boot loader other than voiding the warranty? We will still get future OTA updates?
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Yes. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
AD9295 said:
Yes. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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I know about the warranty.
What about future OTA updates?
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I know about the warranty.
What about future OTA updates?
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I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
AD9295 said:
I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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Thanks. Good to know.
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axl409 said:
Hey, this seems the right thread to ask.
I'm not so hyped about lollipop (doesn't see all these big changes), but sooner or later I will upgrade of course.
My plan on upgrade is when some custom rom with lollipop will come out.
So my questions are:
-will I be able to flash a lollipop rom from my rooted Moto g with philz recovery and stock/custom kernel?
-do I have to upgrade (somehow) the bootloader or the recovery? And if I have, do I need to return to stock KitKat and then upgrade to official lollipop and then unlock bootloader again and flash recovery again?
Thanks for your answers!
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Well waiting for lollipop custom rom is actually the best solution yet!
You need following things to upgrade to lollipop:
New bootloader
Recovery compatible with that bootloader
Kernel comatible with lollipop rom which you want to flash
New baseband (radio)
And system and data partition image
When a developer creates a flashable zip, it generally includes:
System and data partition image
Kernel
So before flashing that lollipop rom. You just need to flash
New bootloader
Recovery
Baseband(radio)
Then from recovery you can flash the zip file.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do all this.
Only problem is, it takes time for motorola to release factory images like google releases for nexus phones.
So you will need to wait till some developer captures OTA, extract all the partition images and share it online. (Make sure the uploaded partition images are of the same moto g variant which you have)
axl409 said:
Hey, this seems the right thread to ask.
I'm not so hyped about lollipop (doesn't see all these big changes), but sooner or later I will upgrade of course.
My plan on upgrade is when some custom rom with lollipop will come out.
So my questions are:
-will I be able to flash a lollipop rom from my rooted Moto g with philz recovery and stock/custom kernel?
-do I have to upgrade (somehow) the bootloader or the recovery? And if I have, do I need to return to stock KitKat and then upgrade to official lollipop and then unlock bootloader again and flash recovery again?
Thanks for your answers!
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Actually it is easier to flash official kitkat images and update to lollipop with ota update. Then you can flash any custom lollipop rom just by following rom developer's instruction. It will be easier.
Thanks for this thread Bro.
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axl409 said:
Thanks a lot @AD9295!
So, I was searching around for returning stock, because you said in the end I'll have to and also because I want to be prepared in time!
I found the thread "restore to stock" and in the end, there's written this at q18 (I made a screenshot).
It's good to do this even if I have philz recovery? Will I get the update or I need to flash also the stock recovery? I know there's written, but it's cool? Or maybe something could go wrong?
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If you are using rooted custom rom:
Flash the complete official kitkat image. images are located here:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36
If you are just using rooted stock rom then follow the instruction in response to that q18. You do need to flash stock recovery as mentioned there. That's what is meant by returning to "stock".
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axl409 said:
No I'm just rooted, and of course have installed some apps that need root.
So in order to restore stock I should:
- uninstall the root apps
- do the q18 (but where I found the stock recovery image?)
- waiting for the ota lollipop upgrade that will update all (bootloader, recovery, radio, system and data).
Am I correct?
And then from lollipop do again root and install future lollipop compatible recovery.
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Yes you are correct. the zip files located here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36 contain all the official .img files. You can download it from there (I understand file size is large but it's worth downloading coz you will always be able to return to stock even if you mess up your phone pretty badly ) or you can ask on forum
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AD9295 said:
I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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What benefit gives just unlocking and not rooting?
Hello,
I wanted to install a ROM 5.1.1
For that, I first wanted to upgrade my existing FW to last, ie the WW-11.4.1.29.
So I wanted to flash the ROM Stock Asus from my Recovery 6.0.5.0
But the install does not happen.
He said that the latter is intended for K000C, while I have a TF701T.
At a minimum, I do not want to flash the ROM.
Just have the latest firmware.
Currently, the bootloader tells me I am WW_epad-10.26.1.18-20131217
Thank you in advance for your assistance
Just flash this as long as you have the tf701 to update the boot loader and make sure you have the correct US or WW version... http://forum.xda-developers.com/tra...overy-kang-twrp-tf700t-2-8-x-xarea51-t3121989 scroll down to where you see FLASHABLE ZIPS INCLUDING LATEST BOOTLOADER FOR WW & US SKUs
Many Many thanks
Hi, this is my first post on XDA so please bare with me,
I had recently moved from a Custom ROM back to stock 7.1.1, but couldn't get OTA updates for some reason. Having no idea how to get OTAs back, I gave up and flashed the Global version of stock 8.1. The install was smooth, but it became apparent to me once I tried to use Google Pay (but failed to add a card) that safetynet wasn't passing. My phone is an XT1805 and using retapac.
I found the global version of 8.1 from this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g5s-plus/how-to/tutorial-fhash-oreo-8-1-stock-global-t3852967
Thanks for your help!
Try relocking bootloader ?
But won't suggest
Saadatrm said:
Try relocking bootloader ?
But won't suggest
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Why not? Will it brick my device?
I don't really have plans to go back to a custom rom any time soon
Global Version doesn't exist. You'll need to find a stock 7.1.1 designed specifically for XT1805/retapac and try to flash that. Look for instructions before doing that though (I haven't looked into the ramifications). Any random stock won't work. Alternatively, if you're okay with Safety Net not working, just stay there until a stock Oreo rom for your phone does turn up, then flash that. That might be safer.
Good Luck.
As much as I'd usually be OK with safety net not passing, I'd really like to be able to use Google Pay.
What version did I flash if it isn't global? Everything in settings say it matches up with other Moto G5S+ in Australia. Might just be a lucky fluke?
Also if I relock the bootloader with a new 7.1.1 rom, will I be able to OTA then?
Hello all,
I did some searching here on XDA and on the internet regarding the flashing but I was unable to find any definitive answer to this so maybe someone here can help me out, here goes:
As far as I'm aware, Xiaomi does not provide a source code for their drivers (firmware) which means we need to use precompiled binaries for specific android versions, downloadable for example here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...mware-xiaomi-mi-9t-pro-redmi-k20-pro-t3955317
What I don't exactly understand is how can one go about installing a custom ROM (e.g LineageOS) and drivers in case there is a difference between Android versions when flashing a ROM (e.g going from Android 9 based MIUI 10 to Android 10 based LineageOS 17)
Most of the how-to's I found on installing a custom ROM specify that I should update to MIUI 11 (Android 10) first before installing LineageOS 17 so the firmware is up to date and working but I would like to avoid this due to Xiaomi's anti-rollback "feature" (fastboot getvar anti) which will then prevent me from installing back MIUI 10 (in case I might want to roll back)
Does anyone know how/where is the firmware stored exactly? As I understand, the firmware is installed via TWRP therefore I believe it's stored somewhere on filesystem, do I need to flash the firmware/ROM in specific order when flashing a new ROM via TWRP (ROM first, then firmware)?
For now, I came up with these steps:
1. Unlock bootloader - already done
2. Install TWRP
3. Flash custom ROM (Android 10 / LineageOS 17)
4. Flash Firmware (Extracted from Android 10 / MIUI 11)
5. Wipe data/dalvik/etc. + install gapps/magisk/etc.
6. Reboot
Will this work?
Thanks a bunch!
our phone doesn't have anti-rollback. Source: xiaomi.eu
my guide: bit.do/raphaelguide
I'd advise updating the firmware of stock miui, so you are up-to-date normally. The firmware is located in the vendor. the vendor and firmware files are combined. (links in my guide as well.
Updating to an AOSP rom from miui is also in my guide.
Hello there, I have bought an Xiaomi Mi 9t pro in Germany 2 Days ago.
The guy who used it before had unlocked the Bootloader and installed the TWRP. This is working great and I've got no Problem with that.
He Also installed another ROM. In The beginning there was the Original EEA Rom. Now it is runnning with "MIUI 11 | V11.0.5.0QFKCNXM|(stable)".
He said this ROM is the original Global ROM from China and because of that the Phone identifys as Redmi K20 Pro. I've got no Problem with that, because I know These are the same phones. But my Question is: What is the difference between these two ROM's and does it make sense to use the ROM witch is installed already? Because actually i wanted to test the phone with the original ROM. And where can I find the actuall original ROM?
Thanks a bunch!
duma218 said:
Hello there, I have bought an Xiaomi Mi 9t pro in Germany 2 Days ago.
The guy who used it before had unlocked the Bootloader and installed the TWRP. This is working great and I've got no Problem with that.
He Also installed another ROM. In The beginning there was the Original EEA Rom. Now it is runnning with "MIUI 11 | V11.0.5.0QFKCNXM|(stable)".
He said this ROM is the original Global ROM from China and because of that the Phone identifys as Redmi K20 Pro. I've got no Problem with that, because I know These are the same phones. But my Question is: What is the difference between these two ROM's and does it make sense to use the ROM witch is installed already? Because actually i wanted to test the phone with the original ROM. And where can I find the actuall original ROM?
Thanks a bunch!
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Your phone now has the Chinese ROM, not global.
The Chinese ROM is not so good for use outside of China.
You would be better using the latest EEA ROM, which you can download from here
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V11.0.3.0....EUXM_20191029.0000.00_10.0_eea_80e1c5de81.tgz
This is a fastboot ROM and needs to be flashed in fastboot mode, not with TWRP.
There are plenty of guides here on flashing a fastboot ROM, just be careful not to re-lock the bootloader.
Thank you for the fast answer. I will try to install the original ROM as fast as i can find a good guide on how to install via fastboot .
Can you please tell me whats the difference in the methods of installing a ROM via fastboot or TWRP? Up to now I always worked with TWRP. But this is my first Xiaomi device.
And why the bootloader should be re-locked when I'm installing the ROM? And is there any problem with re-locking the bootloader?
duma218 said:
Thank you for the fast answer. I will try to install the original ROM as fast as i can find a good guide on how to install via fastboot .
Can you please tell me whats the difference in the methods of installing a ROM via fastboot or TWRP? Up to now I always worked with TWRP. But this is my first Xiaomi device.
And why the bootloader should be re-locked when I'm installing the ROM? And is there any problem with re-locking the bootloader?
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Xiaomi release 2 ROMs for each version, a recovery ROM and a fastboot ROM.
The recovery ROM is a standard ROM that is flashed via recovery, i.e. TWRP. Fastboot ROMs are more for recovering a soft bricked phone. They include most of the phones partition images, not just the system image. When changing to a different region ROM, you need to flash a fastboot ROM, not the recovery ROM.
Flashing fastboot ROMs is normally done with the Mi Flash Tool. The tool defaults to flash and lock the bootloader. You need to manually change the flash option from the default to flash only option (called 'clean all' in the tool)
It is only possible to re-lock the bootloader when you are flashing a ROM that is for the original region of the phone, if you try and lock the bootloader when flashing a ROM for a different region, it will brick the phone.
Because you've bought the phone second hand, and the seller already lied about the Chinese ROM being global, then there is no guarantee that the phone is a genuine European model, so it is best to play safe and not re-lock the bootloader when flashing the EEA ROM.
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Xiaomi release 2 ROMs for each version, a recovery ROM and a fastboot ROM.
The recovery ROM is a standard ROM that is flashed via recovery, i.e. TWRP. Fastboot ROMs are more for recovering a soft bricked phone. They include most of the phones partition images, not just the system image. When changing to a different region ROM, you need to flash a fastboot ROM, not the recovery ROM.
Flashing fastboot ROMs is normally done with the Mi Flash Tool. The tool defaults to flash and lock the bootloader. You need to manually change the flash option from the default to flash only option (called 'clean all' in the tool)
It is only possible to re-lock the bootloader when you are flashing a ROM that is for the original region of the phone, if you try and lock the bootloader when flashing a ROM for a different region, it will brick the phone.
Because you've bought the phone second hand, and the seller already lied about the Chinese ROM being global, then there is no guarantee that the phone is a genuine European model, so it is best to play safe and not re-lock the bootloader when flashing the EEA ROM.
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Thank you for this great description. I will try top flash the european ROM this weekend. After everything works succesfull i will write here .
Only one more question.. flashing the original ROM with re-locking the Phone will deinstall TWRP and install an original bootloader?
duma218 said:
Thank you for this great description. I will try top flash the european ROM this weekend. After everything works succesfull i will write here .
Only one more question.. flashing the original ROM with re-locking the Phone will deinstall TWRP and install an original bootloader?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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So now I flashed it by fastboot and its running. I had to watch some videos an dread some sides to understand what to do to make the Mi Flash tool run. But all in all its not that complicated as i thought.
When I start the phone its still unlocked, but i think there is no TWRP anymore. Thats not that important for me now. But I'm missing some Features witch were in the chinese ROM already. For example the App drawer. I Thougt it would be normal to have one because up to now i only had Phones with it :/. I've read it will come with some extra updates, and i hope it will come soon.
Thank you for your help. I hope i will accustom myself to use the phone without the app drawer.
hello
I have a new phone (my LG V30 was great but time to change
I'm in France with a specific carrier rom (SFR) Global/stable 12.0.5.0 RKFEUSF
I tried to OTA it with the local install method (ROM ZIP is in internal storage) with V12.5.6.0.RKFMIXM
it says that I can't do that because "it's not compatible" (yeah specific bloatware...)
the phone is not rooted, and not unlocked yet (waiting) can I install it with a fastboot or recovery method?
thanks
edit: what's the difference between recovery and fastboot Zip roms ?
Fastboot you can use immediately after enabling usb debugging in developer options, for recovery you first need to boot/flash something like twrp after unlocking the bootloader.
thanks!
unlocked it, installed TWRP and flashed a new rom then magisk
working like a breeze.
I have another question, do I have to flash (or dirty flash) only GLOBAL ROMS (as it was a global rom originally) or can I flash European roms ? I read that they have more features than global roms, is that true or even worth it?)
I also read somewhere not to flash betas as you will not be able to flash a stable roms on top of it?