I have ordered an unlocked Note 8 and will be using it on AT&T.
When it comes time for updating to Oreo from Nougat where will the update originate? If it is the AT&T server will I then be burdened with their bloatware?
Unlocked devices do not get carrier updates. Your update will come directly from Samsung. I am hoping that Samsung updates will come before Verizon, one of the main reasons I got the unlocked version.
the non-branded models get updates directly from Samsung
Unlocked Note 8 update
The link provided by samsung to read about the update mentions att which is why I got concerned about allowing it. I have at&t service but don't want their bloatware on my phone which us why I got the unlocked version. Can't post the URL because I can't remember my old acct info here so had to start over.
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Sorry, i'm not sure how the OTA's work on the Nexus devices, so I have to ask (and haven't found the right discussions which talk about this)...
I have an ATT branded Nexus 6 which has been bootloader unlocked, OEM partition wiped, and flashed with the "for T-Mobile" LYZ28J image. I am using a Verizon SIM in it.
Since there are posts of T-Mobile pushing LYZ28K I was wondering, will get get this OTA? if so when (i.e. does it it matter than I have a Verizon SIM in there when it comes to OTA's? Or do I manually need to load it?
It doesnt matter that it has a vzw sim in it. If youre stock, you may get it, and you can apply it - but when? Nobody can tell you that, you'll get it when you get it.
If you are waiting for Tmo specific firmware on VZW service, that isn't going to happen - you'll never get that since...well...you dont have TMo service...
Lol what's the reason behind an AT&T branded phone with T-Mobile Rom and Verizon sim? Personally I would just manually do it, like the dude with the hilarious name above me said you may get it you may not. If you want it just go manual.
^^ exactly.
Thats what I've always done - if i want it (and since I'm never stock) I have to manually flash the firmware, make my own no-enforced encryption boot.img (kudos to the kitchen) flash that, and start all over.
Thats how it is, I'm used to it. OTA are too slow, IMO, anyway.
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I use this name universally online - any forum you see it, XBL, GitHub, reddit... it's me. lol
The Stig 04 said:
Lol what's the reason behind an AT&T branded phone with T-Mobile Rom and Verizon sim?
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Long story short... its a work supplied device. I asked for unlocked/unbranded and got the ATT branded (but sim unlocked). My primary work line is Verizon, backup/test line is T-MO.
We have others that will likely be in the same boat (ATT branded, sim unlocked, but using other provider).. who are not techie. So rather than flashing or side loading the OTA (which I easily could), I'm waiting to see what happens.
I'm more curious *IF* I should get the update in this state. and if the mix of rom vs sim might cause any delays/issues.
Bottom Line. Verizon and ATT don't usually OTA for 3 months after update release. Once the factory image for Sprint, USC, International drops you can fastboot flash that They gonna use the same and it will work. T-Mobile and FI work better with their drop just because of WiFi calling.
I'd say that because you're using VZW service, it makes absolutely no difference what branding the phone has and doesn't matter what carrier it was purchased for.
If it uses VZW service, you'll only get OTAs that are for that service. You won't get Tmo specific OTAs for a device being used on VZW - when the OTAs are pushed out they are done so by the service the device is registered as using. I don't think you would ever get said OTAs since the device wouldn't need them.
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I'd say that because you're using VZW service, it makes absolutely no difference what branding the phone has and doesn't matter what carrier it was purchased for.
If it uses VZW service, you'll only get OTAs that are for that service. You won't get Tmo specific OTAs for a device being used on VZW - when the OTAs are pushed out they are done so by the service the device is registered as using. I don't think you would ever get said OTAs since the device wouldn't need them.
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Thank you. And that is what I'm thinking, and why I'm asking... because I'd also seen talk about the SIM in the Nexus 6, or the carrier the phone is on, impacting some of the Nexus 6 updates in the past.
But I also remember my Sister-In-Law using an XT1053 on ATT, who did get XT1053 updates.. SO I wasn't completely sure how the nexus updates worked.
Yes. If leave the sim in will get the Verizon OK'd OTA. That has been up to 3 months after the image was posted. Either remove sim and try to force OTA from Google or manually flash the image. We end up always manually flashing due to having root.. 3-5 minutes tops.
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It doesnt matter that it has a vzw sim in it.
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That's not accurate.. On every other android phone it is accurate but not in the nexus 6.
Usually with a GSM phone, the update is pushed by the oem and your current build determined which update you got.. For example, my Three UK s3 would get the Three UK branded rom update. Even if I had an O2 UK sim in it.. If I then flashed a Vodafone UK rom, I would then get those updates.
With the nexus 6 though, this has changed.. For Verizon and T-mobile users, Google now uses the sim to identify which update to get.. They both were sent with an unbranded stock rom then later on, depending on the simcard, got either a t-mob or vzw update.
The problem is though, that each update will only install on a specified build.. So a vzw update will never install on a t-mob rom or vice versa, so it does matter if the build is one carrier and the sim is another as it will never get an update.
That's what I meant, I probably should have worded that differently.
I meant that even though it is using Verizon service you only get updates for Verizon service. If it's branded for X carrier that won't matter - the service its using is what you'll get updates for.
I apologize about that that was a poor choice of wording on my part.
And just an update.... tonight, I got prompted for a 28meg update. After the update I'm on LYZ28K.
So I guess to answer my own question...
Yes, an ATT Branded Nexus 6 flashed T-Mobile ROM with VZW SIM installed will get updated, and stay on the T-Mobile rom.
That is good.
KidJoe said:
And just an update.... tonight, I got prompted for a 28meg update. After the update I'm on LYZ28K.
So I guess to answer my own question...
Yes, an ATT Branded Nexus 6 flashed T-Mobile ROM with VZW SIM installed will get updated, and stay on the T-Mobile rom.
That is good.
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Should get the Verizon/ATT (Generic ) rom if have Verizon sim. Hopefully you unlocked before taking update. If locked and it bootloops your only option is RTA.
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Should get the Verizon/ATT (Generic ) rom if have Verizon sim. Hopefully you unlocked before taking update. If locked and it bootloops your only option is RTA.
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Yup. I unlocked. Actually when I got it, I unlocked it, rooted, cleared the OEM partition (backed it up first), then flashed the T-Mobile rom.... and left it unlocked (but not rooted since I'm using for work)
couple months ago I have bought an overstock LG V40 Thinq from ebay which is a Sprint and Network Unlocked version. I am currently using it on T-mobile and it works just fine other that VoLTE which doesn't work. As you all know Android Pie is not released by Sprint yet but T-mobile and US Unlocked versions got that update. So I am wondering, Is there a possibility that my phone gets locked to Sprint again if I cross flash it with US Unlocked version of Android Pie? Since I am not on Sprint, do you think that I may get the official update if I wait for a while? (I got couple security updates while I was on T-mobile network.) and if it updates over the air, is there a possibility to the phone to gets locked again?
I have a v40 from AT&T originally. I carrier unlocked it about a week ago and ported out to T-Mobile. I tried to check for software updates using both SIM cards from T-Mobile and AT&T and no update available. How can I get this update?
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It's been a while since I bothered flashing firmware so I am not upto date with how things work now.
My questions are
I am currently on 02s version of firmware and would like to go samsungs version so I can take part in things like the one ui beta. Would this trip knox?
Also just to make sure, would flashing onto a Samsung version allow me beta and direct firmware updates?
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No, it doesn't trip knox. Beta isn't available to every user, Samsung invites users for beta. The best option for receiving timely updates is flashing the FW associated with your device’s Primary CSC and if it's a Carrier Branded device, stay with your Carrier Branded network.
The short answer is: No...and no.
Flash any official firmware don't trip knox in any way.
Can't...due to the primary purpose of the Knox counter, that is to avoid the installation of unauthorized recoveries and firmwares.
So...if you want, you can flash beta packages too.
1. No, it does not trip Knox. All official firmwares are signed by Samsung, which Knox ignores.
2. Yes, even the community manager switched from ATT firm to unlocked.
I personally switched from TMOB to unlocked, and have OTA updated twice now. Ignore what the dude said above, switch to unlocked to get the official firmware (beta as well) the fastest.
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1. No, it does not trip Knox. All official firmwares are signed by Samsung, which Knox ignores.
2. Yes, even the community manager switched from ATT firm to unlocked.
I personally switched from TMOB to unlocked, and have OTA updated twice now. Ignore what the dude said above, switch to unlocked to get the official firmware (beta as well) the fastest.
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Not so, Unlocked Firmware is typically the last to receive OTA Updates. Samsung pushes Carrier Branded devices first.
The bizarre reason why unlocked phones get updates last in the USA
With carrier phone subsidies now a thing of the past, you may be tempted to buy a flagship smartphone unlocked directly from an OEM, expecting this will offer y
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varcor said:
Not so, Unlocked Firmware is typically the last to receive OTA Updates. Samsung pushes Carrier Branded devices first.
The bizarre reason why unlocked phones get updates last in the USA
With carrier phone subsidies now a thing of the past, you may be tempted to buy a flagship smartphone unlocked directly from an OEM, expecting this will offer y
mspoweruser.com
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I have 2 S21 Ultras, one tmob, one unlocked. Unlocked has gotten 3 OTAs while Tmob has gotten 1. Community manager at Members stated he moved to unlocked as well to get the beta faster. Still, this will get us nowhere, answer to OPs question has been answered as such Knox will not be tripped by official firmwares.
varcor said:
Not so, Unlocked Firmware is typically the last to receive OTA Updates. Samsung pushes Carrier Branded devices first.
The bizarre reason why unlocked phones get updates last in the USA
With carrier phone subsidies now a thing of the past, you may be tempted to buy a flagship smartphone unlocked directly from an OEM, expecting this will offer y
mspoweruser.com
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In truth the first region that receive updates more often (at least on Exynos) are: Germany (DBT), Switzerland (AUT) and less frequently Panama (TPA)/Thailand (THL).
And are all "unlocked" firmwares.
So I don't believe that story about fast release of branded firmware it's real.
Thank you all for your info. I do agree that unlocked firmware gets faster updates because I always get to move to the new one ui updates well before my partner gets hers on EE.
I usually buy my phones directly from Samsung but this time round I got my S21 Ultra from O2 UK. I would just prefer to have unbranded firmware updates and hit the Betas.
As long as it doesnt trip knox I am happy to give it a try.
Thanks again
RootExp said:
Thank you all for your info. I do agree that unlocked firmware gets faster updates because I always get to move to the new one ui updates well before my partner gets hers on EE.
I usually buy my phones directly from Samsung but this time round I got my S21 Ultra from O2 UK. I would just prefer to have unbranded firmware updates and hit the Betas.
As long as it doesnt trip knox I am happy to give it a try.
Thanks again
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Official firmwares can't trip know.
Like I've said: The first purpouse of warranty counter is to block unofficial stuff.
Sorry to just drop a question, but I can't find the answer. Can the snapdragon S10 SM-G973u1 bootloader be unlocked? If not is there another way to root it?
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Chris
HelloChris333333, just when you post on a forum the courtesy of saying hello. Yes you can root just with the firmware of your model S10 SM-G973U1 US model so not compatible with EU firmware.
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HelloChris333333, just when you post on a forum the courtesy of saying hello. Yes you can root just with the firmware of your model S10 SM-G973U1 US model so not compatible with EU firmware.
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I'm not sure that's true, but I would love to find out I'm wrong.
In my research, the SD phones cannot be unlocked unless you are on (and remain on) an older BL version. The last unlockable BL version was 4, as I recall... if you're running updated firmware you are likely on BL 6. Even on 4, the process was not free and once you did it you could not update to a newer version of FW without losing the unlock.
For this reason, I gave up on getting root/BLunlock on my phone... and honestly, I have not missed it. This is also why I have not seen much development of FW for the SD phones anywhere.
Again, if I'm wrong, I'd love to learn how it's done!
Hello meric57
Can you share a link to the firmware I need? I just bought this phone and there is no OEM unlock option, it is a US phone. If I cannot root it I will have to sell it and get another phone.
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Chris
I guess another question would be where can I get a S10 with the Exynos chip?
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Chris
Using ADB I keep getting "waiting for device" and then I find I need to unlock the bootloader. This crap is an endless circle.
U4 can be unlocked before , I can unlock it , Special engineering documents need to be made
I'm V6 nothing available. I bought a G973F instead. G973u1 going on ebay.
Exactly, there is really no root/unlock for snapdragon phones unless you're on a very old BL (and you have to stay there so you can't update). IMO, that's not "can be unlocked" even with "special" steps, particularly since most phones today will have newer BLs (even a year ago, I couldn't find a BL4 phone)... but, yes, it's technically true to say it can be unlocked, but only in very limited cases.
@Chris33333 For this reason, I get that you may want to go to the Exynos instead... I'm curious, if you're in the US, how does that work with carriers? Does it? I've found most US carriers refuse to activate phones that don't match their list of "compatible" IMEIs... I imagine an F-series phone won't be on that list.
I'm in the US using Straight Talk with T-mobile. I've had a Galaxy S5 rooted for years. With straight talk I can use AT&T, T-mobile, or Verizon. But this international phone does not do Verizon.
And StraightTalk will activate the F-series phone without complaint or issues? If so, that's great to hear... because I know VZ and ATT typically won't...
I haven't put the SIM in it yet. Still trying to delete all the crap off the phone.
Lol
Hello Chris33333, https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s10/firmware/SM-G973U1/XAA/