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Xperia V night shots :(

Hi, 3 days ago I've bought my Xperia V. After having SGS2 I've expected better photos from phone with Exmor camera. Could You post some Yours photos from Xperia V made in low light ? My photos can be compared to those on this site http://knowyourxperia.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/xperia-z-vs-xperia-v-night-shots-compared/ Is this sensor so crappy ? Even Xperia S (one year old model) has got better camera. The quality of photos is not acceptable. IMHO the problem must be in software because Xperia with the same sensor makes better photos.
Please post some examples from Yours Xperia V in low light condition.

Dont use "AUTO' mode when it comes to Xperia, friend. You have to use manual and configure by yourself ^^

Use night scene. It is really good at low light. When you use auto, ISO is also auto and all hells brake loose
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I'll try night scene and some manual settings however I was ex[ecting that Superior Automode will do much better photos. This mode makes very beautifull photos on Xperia Z. In conlusion - if manual settings would help then Sony should think to improve camera software on Xperia V. Camera should make beautifull photos out of the box like iPhone camera. Maybe it's not the best comparison however apple camera behave much better in low light condition. I know that it's not ther flagship but many people, like me, will buy Xperia V rather then Z because it's more more handy. Not all the people have pianist hands.

j_m_jackowski said:
Camera should make beautifull photos out of the box like iPhone camera.
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My Canon EOS-1D Mark III objects to this statement and says “camera should be set to a proper profile to get the most out of it”.

j_m_jackowski said:
Camera should make beautifull photos out of the box like iPhone camera.
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Do you know who manufactures the camera\sensor for iPhone 5?
Yep. Sony
Anyways.
Try using a different camera-app and modes.
I've taken many photos at night, and I'm overwhelmed by the light it absorbs.
I actually managed to take pictures of the Aurora Borealis.
Look for yourself (yes, they are choppy and of somewhat bad quality. but again, its a phone camera. but still one of the best if not THE best one out there.)
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And so it's said. I've NEVER managed to take photos of the aurora borealis with a phone before, and I've tried with iPhone, SGS2, Xperia Arc S, Xperia S and the Lumia 800. The Xperia V was the first one where I actually saw some of the lighting take shape on the picture.

Awesome, thanks for sharing those pictures. While they may not be compared to professional shots, the fact that you took them with your phone makes them feel somehow "closer".
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I have found Superior Auto mode to not be the best setting for the phone even though its supposed to its self automatically pick the best setting and through this setting it's automatic for when you use the sleep to snap function it shoots picks at 12 megapixels instead of 13 in this mode
Though I have a T and not a V I believe there close enough.
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Well, i dont think so Xperia V camera is so bad as photos , maybe different settings maybe other conditions ... i dont know .. here is photo taken by me ...

mundy725 said:
Well, i dont think so Xperia V camera is so bad as photos , maybe different settings maybe other conditions ... i dont know .. here is photo taken by me ...
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Yours photo is resized. Let me see 100% crop. from original size.

Extra resolution is there to allow editing and downsizing.
If you actually use full-size 12-13 Mpix photos anywhere outside of professional publishing and/or use smartphone photos for professional publishing, I don't really have anything to say that would not be insulting in one way or another.
The quality of a 12 Mpix smartphone camera image itself does not matter. What matters is what quality will a 1920×1600 (or less) image produced from it have.

Torres77an said:
I have found Superior Auto mode to not be the best setting for the phone even though its supposed to its self automatically pick the best setting and through this setting it's automatic for when you use the sleep to snap function it shoots picks at 12 megapixels instead of 13 in this mode
Though I have a T and not a V I believe there close enough.
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Superior Auto actually made the best pics in difficult conditions in my case....
But for the night the Night Mode...

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Yours photo is resized. Let me see 100% crop. from original size.
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http://www.mediafire.com/view/?064l0tknb2dvtla
I think problem in JB , All the Xperias get same options like V in camera settings ...

i think this is good for xperia v, and it better than iphone 5 as my experience...
But i cannot post my shot here by the forum rule ... let do this
ttp://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o587/blaue2/Xperia%20V/DSC_0005.jpg

jerrychf said:
i think this is good for xperia v, and it better than iphone 5 as my experience...
But i cannot post my shot here by the forum rule ... let do this
ttp://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o587/blaue2/Xperia%20V/DSC_0005.jpg
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Amazing Photo. What I've noticed. When making photo in night mode camera is not using high iso, it uses longer time to make photo. The problem is stabilization of camera

good hardware with poor software optimization. same goes with my xperia tx. i thinks they just to much compressed the image data make picture so poor. i think my old dead nokia n8 better take picture and video quality

We are missing something .... Personally i think , after updating JB camera quality get down ... reason is marketing ( selling Z ) later when we will get any JB update it will be fix ... maybe i am wrong ...

I also feel that my V's camera capability went down after updating to JB...

4.4.2 Camera quality poll

Ok guy's I wanted to start a poll regarding the camera quality since 4.4.2.
I love my nexus 5 but I found the camera when it was stock 4.4 was impressive even in low light with the flash, However because so many people were complaining about the speed of it taking shots (it didn't bother me as long as it took nice photo's) Now google have responded with 4.4.2 and speeded the camera shot process however the image quality has reduced by some margin even in well lit area's,
So basically this is a poll to gauge who wants to take better quality photo's or faster photo's
Personally I couldn't care less how long it took as long they were good quality photo's...

Makes me glad I got the phone about the same time 4.4.2 came out

Requesting new poll option: Use a different camera app and be able to do both. No need to be limited by the automatic settings.

bblzd said:
Requesting new poll option: Use a different camera app and be able to do both. No need to be limited by the automatic settings.
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The trouble is as far as I know there is no 3rd party app that uses HDR+ mode.

Ady1976 said:
The trouble is as far as I know there is no 3rd party app that uses HDR+ mode.
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u can't tell the difference if u use HDR Camera+ and Snap Camera HDR

hello00 said:
u can't tell the difference if u use HDR Camera+ and Snap Camera HDR
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Does that app have Jpeg compression settings level similar to Camera JB+ ?

Ady1976 said:
Does that app have Jpeg compression settings level similar to Camera JB+ ?
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im not sure..maybe if u get the paid version for both of them

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im not sure..maybe if u get the paid version for both of them
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Thanks I shall have a look at that and compare some daylight and night shots.

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I for one am not updating to 4.4.1, or 4.4.2. I have no complaints with the release software. Who gives a **** about how good the stock photos are. If you care even marginally about image quality then you should know how to properly edit a photo. Simple as that. I love this phone.

Day shots are as good as before, night shots are worse, more noise and it's just not impressive anymore. I'd take the slower shutter for night shots anytime, and keep the new behavior for daylight shots.
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At least for me, low light camera shots look extremely better in HDR+ with the 4.4.2 update over the 4.4 release, but I can't tell a difference on day shots
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Sirgatory said:
I for one am not updating to 4.4.1, or 4.4.2. I have no complaints with the release software. Who gives a **** about how good the stock photos are. If you care even marginally about image quality then you should know how to properly edit a photo. Simple as that. I love this phone.
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That's exactly my point, I was extremely happy with stock 4.4, Camera was fine and video's were great so I'm gauging who prefers quality over speed of shots.
Question ? When your in the market for a compact camera what is end users primary concern ? How good the images are ? Or how fast it take shots ? Exactly point proved and judging from the results of the poll so far looks like I'm not alone either.

rayiskon said:
Day shots are as good as before, night shots are worse, more noise and it's just not impressive anymore. I'd take the slower shutter for night shots anytime, and keep the new behavior for daylight shots.
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Agreed, they boosted the ISO because they increase the shutter speed in low light thus images turns up pretty noisy. What's the point of having OIS when it can't use it? It's better to have slower shutter and low ISO to make the image sharper and less noise in dark environment, just make the OIS more aggressive, come on Google don't fail me now

I came from the HTC One and iPhone 5s. I dumped both for the N5 that I purchased used that was already updated to 4.4.2.
The noise level is way too high. Day or night. Focus issues are still present. What's worst is that I can never get a clean, clear shot. I don't even want to transfer the images taken from the N5 to the computer because I know it will be a lot worse than what I see on my phone.
I purchased Camera Awesome. Didn't do anything to help with the issue. Does anyone else have any suggestions as to a better app to use? Or a mod for a previous version?
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I prefer faster shots. With 4.4 I almost went nuts... especially in dark areas it was almost impossible to focus. So for me I accept the 5% worse quality and get 100% faster shots.

Very impressed with day shots, have yet to try a night shot, but I did notice the screen was much darker.
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Pictures is good, but in update i lost so good video quality, now camcorder is so dark, cant see the thing when there dark environment. And i dont know why
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Whatever they did to the camera they need to revert it. All photos shouldn't look like they were taken with an ISO of 800.
EDIT: It's worse than I thought. A relatively bright photo = ISO 1336.

I prefer the quicker photo's. I don't need a camera to take pictures of my dinner or a flower. Anyone who has kids is definitley enjoying the update.
If you look through the picture thread here the majority of the pics are people's food. I don't really need to keep a picture journal of what I eat. lol

Camera struggles to focus

Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
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srprashant91 said:
Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
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Are you using the drag to focus (or tap to focus for google camera)? although I've just tested mine and mine is focusing and refocusing between distance and very close automatically no problem.
I did read on another thread that it focuses using differences between shapes so focusing on a plain uniform surface won't be very reliable.

What do you intend for "close"?
I take some photos at 25, 20, 15, 10 and 5 cm
The best distance is 25cm. Under this distance it can't focus properly.
Google Camera
http://imgur.com/dU6Rw5a,48MiVAd,g9CXRH0,cz6e6Sk,S8mNRYq
Motorola Camera with Autofocus
http://imgur.com/ZMwss7V,vXRXHkR,nkMA3Qm,yJAEXe8,EVuKEcS
Motorola Camera with " Square Brackets" Focus
http://imgur.com/9Sq7wyG,a5rywKI,s6KMVyw,dqlnTTO,87178W9
Best way to take macro is 25cm and zoom when the photo is done.
I miss the lumia camera for this, 735 had a wonderful focus:
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Jhyrachy said:
What do you intend for "close"?
I take some photos at 25, 20, 15, 10 and 5 cm
The best distance is 25cm. Under this distance it can't focus properly.
Google Camera
http://imgur.com/dU6Rw5a,48MiVAd,g9CXRH0,cz6e6Sk,S8mNRYq
Motorola Camera with Autofocus
http://imgur.com/ZMwss7V,vXRXHkR,nkMA3Qm,yJAEXe8,EVuKEcS
Motorola Camera with " Square Brackets" Focus
http://imgur.com/9Sq7wyG,a5rywKI,s6KMVyw,dqlnTTO,87178W9
Best way to take macro is 25cm and zoom when the photo is done.
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Depends, mine can focus clearly all the way to ~6cm from the subject but the way the phone focuses it requires a definite 'hard contrast area' to focus on, although in your examples you do seem to have that (assuming you're trying to focus on the corner of the object above), if you try to focus on an area without much 'change' in the surface it won't focus.

Could you share a pic with 6cm focus please?

I still sincerely hope they fix the camera in the upcoming update. The camera on the moto g is a major let down despite being an improvement over the previous generation in terms of resoultion.
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Jhyrachy said:
Could you share a pic with 6cm focus please?
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http://i.imgur.com/JlyQMdt.jpg
I only said approx 6cm, if you see the actual focus is just past 6cm and from testing earlier it will reliably focus at 7cm providing the light is good. You need plenty of light and hard edges for it to focus properly and you have to put the auto/manual focus directly on the hard edge for it to focus.

jay2the1 said:
http://i.imgur.com/JlyQMdt.jpg
I only said approx 6cm, if you see the actual focus is just past 6cm and from testing earlier it will reliably focus at 7cm providing the light is good. You need plenty of light and hard edges for it to focus properly and you have to put the auto/manual focus directly on the hard edge for it to focus.
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Really nice!
Do you used stock camera?

Jhyrachy said:
Really nice!
Do you used stock camera?
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Thanks , yep I use the stock camera I've just updated to the new version and the results are the same, I have Google Camera installed for photospheres but don't use it otherwise.

I have copied your method, this is my best result so far: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...cqJYQ/w643-h857-no/IMG_20141026_221648051.jpg

srprashant91 said:
Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
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I have the same problem............

Just got this for my wife to.replace her old iPhone 4S. So far she is very unimpressed by the camera quality and the lack of focus accross the room. As it shifts through focal lengths it can get a crisp pictire but autofocus never stops at the right spot.
*edit* just purchased Camera FV-5. Had to boost the contrast and saturation in the app, but focusing is way better.

I too have this problem, I sometimes need to quickly take pictures of a page in a book for a quote, and the camera simply won't focus on the text at all. The moto g turbo used to do a great job, I thought I was getting an upgrade, but the g 4 plus camera focus on close objects and text is horrendous. Do you think an update will fix it?

Any word on software updates to optimize/improve Camera?

I remember during the Idol 3 launch that there were issues initially (DTTW not working, snapchat bugs, etc) that were addressed in subsequent updates. These things were swept under the rug for reviewers but for people who actually owned the phone, they were able to benefit.
Currently my main concern is the camera and I was curious if anyone has heard any news on Alcatel working to try and improve the OIS or low-light capabilities via software (if that is even possible).

macallik said:
I remember during the Idol 3 launch that there were issues initially (DTTW not working, snapchat bugs, etc) that were addressed in subsequent updates. These things were swept under the rug for reviewers but for people who actually owned the phone, they were able to benefit.
Currently my main concern is the camera and I was curious if anyone has heard any news on Alcatel working to try and improve the OIS or low-light capabilities via software (if that is even possible).
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I don't have this exactly device, but I have the twin brother (Vodafone Smart Platinum 7) and I wrote to a Vodafone customer manager about this.
They told me they will talk with the people in the software department, and maybe in a future they can improve a little the software, but the lack of hardware can't be fixed with software.
My main complain was that the photos most of the time are blurry when trying to see the details, and that we have no stabilization for 60fps and 2K-4K.

Galaxo60 said:
I don't have this exactly device, but I have the twin brother (Vodafone Smart Platinum 7) and I wrote to a Vodafone customer manager about this.
They told me they will talk with the people in the software department, and maybe in a future they can improve a little the software, but the lack of hardware can't be fixed with software.
My main complain was that the photos most of the time are blurry when trying to see the details, and that we have no stabilization for 60fps and 2K-4K.
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Thanks. I've heard good things about the Vodafone version. I currently have the Idol 3, and coming from the Nexus 4 before that, it was a big improvement in terms of photo quality. I've been using my Idol 3 for photos a lot recently and although it is great for well-lit, non-moving objects, I have become more aware of the lower quality pics in low-light and blurry pics in general when there is slight movement. I think the Idol 4S is a step up in terms of quality but still leaves something to be desired overall.
Recently I ended up getting a reasonably-priced digital camera which takes great photos. It really illustrated how good a camera can be. I might just get the Idol 4S and carry my digital camera with me for special occasions.

Updated yesterday to version 010 02 with the august security patches with the Mobile Upgrade Q desktop programm. Camera seems better imo opinion (at least with sufficient light!) and overall performance seems faster and snappier then before. Caution: upgrading with Q will flash the whole rom and wipes the device!. Idol 4S 6070K Netherlands. Realy love the devices`s performance and especialy the great speakers

Saw a video review with a blind comparison to the S7 for photos/videos.
Lowlight is pretty meh and video bounces around a lot, but the well lit areas really give the S7 a run for it's money.
It sounds like the key to using the camera is A) Good lighting and B)Keep a steady hand

macallik said:
Saw a video review with a blind comparison to the S7 for photos/videos.
Lowlight is pretty meh and video bounces around a lot, but the well lit areas really give the S7 a run for it's money.
It sounds like the key to using the camera is A) Good lighting and B)Keep a steady hand
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Pretty much is about the steady hand, because with this you can make nice pictures.
I attach some pictures I made with the phone.
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This pic is stunning. Thanks for sharing

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This pic is stunning. Thanks for sharing
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As long as you keep it steady, it indeed does a good job.
HRD is really nice for low lights situations, but again, you must be really steady when taking the pictures.
Regarding the manual mode, is also nice to play with it and you can get some nice results as well.

Manual mode is great for macro and long exposure shots. My friend who works for TCL told me an update to Android Nougat is already under development but no release date is known as of yet.

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Manual mode is great for macro and long exposure shots. My friend who works for TCL told me an update to Android Nougat is already under development but no release date is known as of yet.
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TBH when my Idol 3 updated to MM, my cell reception went wonky so I am in no rush.

Any tried the Nokia 8 with the Google Camera App?

As you guys probably know, this port of Google's Pixel app has been doing the rounds on XDA and various users report much better quality photos with it on Snapdragon devices.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
Has anyone tried this on the Nokia 8? Does it work? If yes, could you post some sample photos and comparison with Nokia's own default camera app? I'm especially interested in low-light situations.
Thank you

yes, hdr+ is giving me awesome photos.
sadly we need to edit media_profiles.xml to add profiles for slow-motion and HFR.
can't alter the system for now as there is no bootloader unlock (thus no custom recovery or root).

Thank you.
I mostly care about HDR+ so that's great to hear.

Have tried the Google camera app and I believe at the moment I get better results. The Nokia software algorithms need some work I think.
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Have tried the Google camera app and I believe at the moment I get better results. The Nokia software algorithms need some work I think.
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First pic using Google camera. Wall paper to left of TV shows texture.
2nd Picture is Nokia cam. Washed out and lack of detail to left of tv
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I will update as further messing with the camera that the night shots with flash on with the pixel are shockingly bad. The flash is not working correctly. Pictures are not being lit up enough. It's a dual tone flash on the Nokia but with pixel APK, it's not firing the brighter flash
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Which is the best version of this app to run on Nokia 8?
I think the ones linked here will be good:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
Filename MGCB_7.0H_C2API_Min_v.1.4.apk

Konstigt said:
Which is the best version of this app to run on Nokia 8?
I think the ones linked here will be good:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
Filename MGCB_7.0H_C2API_Min_v.1.4.apk
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Try this. It's a lot newer.

CazeW said:
Try this. It's a lot newer.
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This was a good post to get the history and to learn about the different versions.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/modded-google-camera-hdr-60fps-video-t3658552
I'd say start with the 3.8 (linked in post above, without any letter after it) version but 1.4-version will probably be fine as well.

Note to others downloading the file: The Android Download-app doesn't open APKs, you need to install a file manager app to open it.
So next question, which are the recommended settings in the app? In the 3.8 version there are tons of values you can select. HDR+ isn't enabled per default.

I tried on Nokia8 and I think no one notice that it has small color dots and line in every photo that process HDR at the bottom of picture. I tried every setting and still can't figure out how to remove. It's also appear in skip24ftlb's photo.

Seems ok the shots come out slightly better than nokia stock but the bottom of the photo has these blue and red bars (looks like some graph lines) on every photo that you point at a bright source of light and reduce the brightness on screen to absolute minimum. Happened on all photos that I took of the sunrise with heaps of bright orange clouds.
It stickout more when the bottom half of the photo is darker down the bottom.
Cheers

Skamath said:
Seems ok the shots come out slightly better than nokia stock but the bottom of the photo has these blue and red bars (looks like some graph lines) on every photo that you point at a bright source of light and reduce the brightness on screen to absolute minimum. Happened on all photos that I took of the sunrise with heaps of bright orange clouds.
It stickout more when the bottom half of the photo is darker down the bottom.
Cheers
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How about using version 1.4?

chantszhim said:
How about using version 1.4?
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I am not sure which version it is there are too many digits in the file downloaded.
file name is gcam 4.4.012 blah blah blah and ends with v.1.1.apk so Is it 4.4 or 1.1. If it is 1.1 can you please direct me to 1.4
Thank you

chantszhim said:
How about using version 1.4?
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I tested with 1.4, 1.5, 3.7, 3.8, 4.0 and all of it happens. So i think there are no other options to avoid this.

Can someone share some pictures?
There are a lot of versions of GCam modded.
On HTC U11 topic, there's a large thread where many users are debating which is the best.
Can someone take a look how does it gets on Nokia 8?
Mine still not here. Maybe on the end of the month.
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First one with flash on
Others no flash
Latest version of google cam
Camera settins not optimal.

Same settings on google camera.
First pic google cam
Second nokia 8 native app

Here is a test to compare:
1. Capture Google Camera
2. Picture with Google Camera app 8,82 mb
3. Picture with Nokia Camera app 6,83 mb

Cyperi...what settings?