So...verizon told me to never take the SIM card out.
I'm confused. In the past I had a Note 4 from Verizon...but if I recall the SIM was just used for...contacts...and that's it.
Are SIMS used for the same reason or are there still such things as phones with the number hardwired?
Like my old phone - when I lost service on the Note 4 - it still shows my old phone number no longer in service
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Also - is there such a thing as a CDMA only phone...I was told I could not use a Verizon Note 4 on T-Mobile....I'm guessing that was bad information online...go figure
CtJackHarkness said:
So...verizon told me to never take the SIM card out.
I'm confused. In the past I had a Note 4 from Verizon...but if I recall the SIM was just used for...contacts...and that's it.
Are SIMS used for the same reason or are there still such things as phones with the number hardwired?
Like my old phone - when I lost service on the Note 4 - it still shows my old phone number no longer in service
Please Help
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Sim is attached to your account. You need a SIM to get service. You can take the SIM out and use it on any other Verizon phone, but you can't take it out and get service.
Contacts on Sim cards was done years backs and could still be used. Now, the best thing is to sync your contacts with your Google account.
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What happens if I take my SIM out??
Also - I hear Verizon is doing away with 4G LTE CDMA and going the way of 4G LTE GSM.....so for a phone that was a Verizon CDMA one.....how does that transfer? Does my Note 4 have a dummy chip in it telling it to check the CDMA info on the phone? So it doesn't need a new "activated" SIM ?
CtJackHarkness said:
What happens if I take my SIM out??
Also - I hear Verizon is doing away with 4G LTE CDMA and going the way of 4G LTE GSM.....so for a phone that was a Verizon CDMA one.....how does that transfer? Does my Note 4 have a dummy chip in it telling it to check the CDMA info on the phone? So it doesn't need a new "activated" SIM ?
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Your note 4 has an old SIM now and that no longer works. Your new SIM (inside the note 8) is your main SIM tied to your account.
You take the SIM out and you lose service. You can put the SIM in your note 4 and it will work but once you take the SIM out, service is gone.
The SIM carries your account, so in order for a phone to work, you need that sim in the phone.
Cdma is sprint and Verizon. (Sprint doesn't have their SIM tied to their accounts like Verizon. Sprint uses Imei numbers attached to the phone. From what i have read, Sprint can operate without a SIM because it's tied to the imei).
Gsm is att and tmobile.
Verizon phones work with any carrier SIM card you insert into it. For example, I insert a tmobile SIM into my Verizon note 8 and it will work.
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I purchased a AT&T Moto X during the recent sale from Motorola for using it on straight talk. I assumed ATT version will work on ST as it is an MVNO of ATT.
I cut down a Straight talk micro sim card into a nano sim card and inserted it into Moto X. It never prompted me for an unlock code. I ported my number from ATT gophone to ST and they (ST) say it is active and provisioned as per their system. But I cannot make any calls and it is not connected to any network. It says HOME at the left corner. When I installed a SIM detector app from google play thru Wifi, it detects the SIM number and the other data. I spent lot of time talking to ST (they say the SIM is active and provisioned as per their system) and Motorola (they say since it is locked to AT&T, it is not working on ST). I tried to get AT&T to unlock it but they will not.
I cut down a AT&T go phone microsim into a nano sim card and activated it under AT&T go phone with a new number , it works. But I want to use it on ST.
1). Is my phone being locked to AT&T, the reason it is not working on ST. If so, if I purchase an unlock code online, it should work. But I never got any unlock code prompt at any time when I put in the ST sim card several times.
2). My ST sim card may not be LTE (I am not sure if it is lte or not. I had it with my previous ST account phone). Could it be the reason?
I appreciate any help/suggestions.
Before you stick the ST card in there, clean it first. Try it again in a few hours. Mine didn't work either the first night
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1. You do not need an unlocked phone to use a ST sim running on the AT&T network. If you are using a t-mobile sim, you will need the phone unlocked. What are the first 5 digits on the sim card? I think AT&T is 89014.
2. I would buy a new ST sim card and cut it out again. That way you know you have the LTE version. Buy it NOW so you get the free Next Day shipping. It expires tomorrow.
Unless you plan on using LTE in Canada or South America, you should have bought the Unlocked GSM Moto X. They are/were the same price, but come unlocked and without bloatware from AT&T.
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1. You do not need an unlocked phone to use a ST sim running on the AT&T network. If you are using a t-mobile sim, you will need the phone unlocked. What are the first 5 digits on the sim card? I think AT&T is 89014.
2. I would buy a new ST sim card and cut it out again. That way you know you have the LTE version. Buy it NOW so you get the free Next Day shipping. It expires tomorrow.
Unless you plan on using LTE in Canada or South America, you should have bought the Unlocked GSM Moto X. They are/were the same price, but come unlocked and without bloatware from AT&T.
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It starts with 89014 plus 15 digits.
I should have brought the Tmobile version which is unlocked but thought AT&T version may be less problematic with ST which is an MVNO of AT&T. I did order a new ST micro sim card today
Hi All,
My son bought a Note 4 for me from his friend who went out of contract and no longer needed his Note 4. It is a white NOTE 4. We already got a T-MOBILE account for this white phone...with the IMEI but it turns out I do not like the white color of this phone. His friend offered to just take back the phone and says I can buy a Charcoal Black 32 GB Note 4 from the store instead.
Now my question is: do I have to call T-Mobile and have them register a new IMEI number to the same SIM card from the older white phone? Or can I just instantly use this new sim card without informing them of the new phone's IMEI?
Thank you
Jack
No need to call, your service is tied to the SIM card and not the phone. Just move the SIM card over. If you buy a new device, they charge you a $15 SIM kit anyway for a replacement card. You can tell them to use the existing SIM otherwise they will activate the new one and move your service over.
Hi Nifty,
Thank you for a quick reply! Pardon my lack of knowledge as I have always been on Verizon (CDMA) and with them it's like a chain and dagger sort of system with always calling in, feeding them IMEI numbers etc through the years then waiting 72 hours for the phone service to activate.
I always thought the SIM card had the IMEI of a device/phone linked to it? Is this not the case?
So basically I can just pop in the SIM and it won't have me "activate" the device or call in etc? To clarify: this SIM card was already activated for that White Samsung Galaxy Note 4 of my friend's son. I just want to switch it over to another Note 4 from T-Mobile that is black color
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Hi Nifty,
Thank you for a quick reply! Pardon my lack of knowledge as I have always been on Verizon (CDMA) and with them it's like a chain and dagger sort of system with always calling in, feeding them IMEI numbers etc through the years then waiting 72 hours for the phone service to activate.
I always thought the SIM card had the IMEI of a device/phone linked to it? Is this not the case?
So basically I can just pop in the SIM and it won't have me "activate" the device or call in etc? To clarify: this SIM card was already activated for that White Samsung Galaxy Note 4 of my friend's son. I just want to switch it over to another Note 4 from T-Mobile that is black color
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Yes. Just pop in the sim card and it will work. Imei number is on the phone.
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but isn't the sim or my account registered to the old phone's IMEI number?
Bumping this. I am sure anyone with T-Mobile can help me out here before the week starts.
T-Mobile Chat gave me this answer
"You: Would doing so require me to activate again? Or provide an IMEI number to T-Mobile similar to Verizon when switching phones?
You: or can i just take my SIM card from my current phone, pop it in the other one and im good to go?
Reichell V: Thank you for this information that you provided regarding changing the phone. No worries! You are correct you can just simply insert the sim card on your new phone and you are good to go"
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Bumping this. I am sure anyone with T-Mobile can help me out here before the week starts.
T-Mobile Chat gave me this answer
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I don't understand what more you want. 2 of us and a tmobile agent already told you to just insert it and it's going to work.
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flipq88 said:
I don't understand what more you want. 2 of us and a tmobile agent already told you to just insert it and it's going to work.
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That's the beauty of GSM, just pop in the sim for the carrier you want to use in the phone you want to use and you're good to go!
I hope the op enjoys the benefits of GSM as we do
Unlike CDMA which you need to register the IMEI of the phone in order to tie it to your service for example Verizon, Sprint, etc . GSM ties the service to the sim card so you may transfer it from device to device without having to get a new one or call customer support. Only reason you may need a new sim card is if the current one doesn't support LTE and in that case you would need to get a new one from T-Mobile and activate it.
Setting up with service provider?
Hello. For those of you who hate noobs in this forum, prepare to cringe a little bit. So I plan on getting the International Model of the Galaxy Note 5, but I have NO IDEA how it works, setting up the sim card and all. I've had some pretty extensive issues with phones and setting it up with my carrier and such. Is it as simple as popping in the SIM card, or do you have to do more than that?
Thanks
What carrier are you on and which model specifically are you looking at?
It's been a while since I get an international phone (I'm with AT&T). The last time I did, all I have to do is insert the sim card. Likewise when I bring my phone out of the U.S., all I have to do is insert a local sim card.
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Is it as simple as popping in the SIM cardThanks
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Usually, yes
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Can I take the SIM card out of my current Note4 and put it into my Note8? My Note4 and SIM card are just about 3 years old. Is there any lost functionality by not getting a new SIM card or should I just go to a Verizon store and get a newer SIM card? Any advantages or disadvantages to either approach (current SIM card versus new SIM card) like an activation fee or anything like that?
Thanks!
The SIM card is a nano compared to the older micro in your awesome Note4, I had one too before the Note8
You can cut the SIM card to size but there is a chance you can cut it incorrectly and have issues, also a cut SIM card is not covered when you bring it into a store.
Your best bet is go get a new nano SIM at your provider.
I cut my SIM and I am not experiencing any issues but I do want to get a new one soon.
Ok, I figured there was likely a change in something over the last 3 years. Do you know if they will charge me the ridiculous activation fee ($35, i think?)?
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Can I take the SIM card out of my current Note4 and put it into my Note8? My Note4 and SIM card are just about 3 years old. Is there any lost functionality by not getting a new SIM card or should I just go to a Verizon store and get a newer SIM card? Any advantages or disadvantages to either approach (current SIM card versus new SIM card) like an activation fee or anything like that?
Thanks!
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It has been suggested by all carriers that new SIMs be used because there have been several issues with previously used SIMs and provision functionality...in other words, there is better connections and access to carrier functions when using new SIMs...most are free from your carrier...I tested my s7e SIM and a new SIM and while they are both from my carrier, only the new SIM provisioned WiFi calling correctly and there was a considerable change in data speeds...just an idea though...
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It has been suggested by all carriers that new SIMs be used because there have been several issues with previously used SIMs and provision functionality...in other words, there is better connections and access to carrier functions when using new SIMs...most are free from your carrier...I tested my s7e SIM and a new SIM and while they are both from my carrier, only the new SIM provisioned WiFi calling correctly and there was a considerable change in data speeds...just an idea though...
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Thanks. That makes sense. I understand that the SIM is likely free. But, does anyone think Verizon will charge me the activation fee to put provision my Note8 on my account to replace my current Note4?
Thanks again!
One more question... Do i need the SIM card installed in the phone to actually go through the phone setup? I'm guessing not, but wasn't sure if it had to go through the setup all over again once the SIM finally is installed. I should get the phone today but probably won't get to a Verizon store to get a new SIM until a day or 2 from now. Thanks.
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One more question... Do i need the SIM card installed in the phone to actually go through the phone setup? I'm guessing not, but wasn't sure if it had to go through the setup all over again once the SIM finally is installed. I should get the phone today but probably won't get to a Verizon store to get a new SIM until a day or 2 from now. Thanks.
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In most cases you shouldn't, and don't require a SIM card to get through the setup wizard, however I'm not sure if the process is different for US carriers so don't take my word for it.
Popping a SIM card in the phone after setup is complete also shouldn't be a problem.
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Thanks. That makes sense. I understand that the SIM is likely free. But, does anyone think Verizon will charge me the activation fee to put provision my Note8 on my account to replace my current Note4?
Thanks again!
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I just did this yesterday went from the Note 4 to the Note 8 and Verizon gave me the sim for free. The only thing is they had to activate it while in the store so bring you Note 8 with you if you have already bought it. They didn't charge me anything however if you are upgrading through them (getting the Note 8 while there) they may.
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I just did this yesterday went from the Note 4 to the Note 8 and Verizon gave me the sim for free. The only thing is they had to activate it while in the store so bring you Note 8 with you if you have already bought it. They didn't charge me anything however if you are upgrading through them (getting the Note 8 while there) they may.
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This is perfect! I just got my Note8 in the mail today. (came a day earlier than expected)! I'll take it with me over to the Verizon store and hopefully I have the same experience as you did. Thanks!
Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
f2000sa said:
Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
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Verizon phones are all carrier unlocked. I'm using a Verizon Note 8 on T-Mobile right now.
Couple questions:
1. Have you double checked to make sure the IMEI is clean and clear? If its blacklisted on Verizon, it won't work on any US carrier.
2. Do you have a nano SIM from Sprint that's already activated?
3. Have you tried flashing either the unlocked firmwareor the Sprint firmware on it?
Thanks, Mr. Orange645
The phone was bought brand new a month ago from Best Buy , and used on Verizon for a month. Phone paid off and no contract. IMEI should be clean. I did a check on Ting with the IMEI , and it can be used for GSM.
I have two nano sims from Sprint, both activated and un-activated. The problem is that Sprint can not add the IMEI to their system. I called Samsung and gave the IMEI, and was told that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. I wonder whether there is way to do CDMA unlocking.
I did not try to flash unlocked ROM. I think that IMEI on sprint network is the first step.
So you have a nano SIM that's already activated with Sprint? It's in a Sprint phone right now and has service?
If So, put the activated SIM in your Note 8 and see if you have service.
Sprint shouldn't have to activate your phone, just the Sim. That's how you can buy the Unlocked version from Samsung.com and stick your Sprint SIM in it and have service.
Sprint uses CDMA, and have to add the IMEI to their system to make it work. Also tried the activated sim, with no luck.
There is no "CDMA unlocking," it's either carrier unlocked or it's not. And ALL Verizon LTE Devices are Carrier unlocked.
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Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
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Have you tried simply factory resetting the device first and then booting up for the first time with the activated Sprint sim in.
Maybe try flashing Sprint firmware?
IMEI is hard-coded. For CDMA, it must be added into Sprint systems. Unless GSM, only a SIM is necessary.
Did Sprint not provide some sort of reason/explanation as to why they are unable to add the IMEI? If they can't do it, surely they can tell you why.
CDMA networks are finicky -- Sprint's in particular -- when it comes to bringing over other carrier devices (even ones with compatible hardware). Some good info in here:
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhon...y-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
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IMEI is hard-coded. For CDMA, it must be added into Sprint systems. Unless GSM, only a SIM is necessary.
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I believe someone is giving you false information. You should be able to place an activated SIM card into the phone and start using it. That's how the unlocked Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL, Galaxy S8, Galaxy S8+, and Note 8 all work. You buy them unlocked and use them on whichever carrier you want, including Sprint. That's how my Nexus 6 worked on Verizon, before I switched to T-Mobile. Verizon also uses CDMA, and they didn't have to add any IMEI into their system. You just put the activated SIM into the phone.
I could take a Verizon SIM and put it into my T-Mobile S8+ right now, and it would activate and get service.
But to answer your original question again, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CDMA UNLOCKING. The phone is either carrier unlocked, or its not. And the Verizon Note 8 is 100% carrier unlocked.
I beginning to suspect you bought a Note 8 with a bad IMEI, if you got it used.
EDIT: I MAY BE WRONG (don't tell my wife, she never hears me say that)
After doing some research on Reddit, it looks like others ran into the same issue as you. The unlocked version and the Sprint version will work, but none of the other carrier Note 8s are eligible for BYOD. Which is stupid, since they are all exactly the same hardware.
I'd try this:
Use ODIN to flash either the Unlocked 950U1 firmware, or the Sprint 950U firmware. Then place the Sprint SIM card in the phone to see if it activates upon start up. If it doesn't then you may be hosed. If that's the case, sign up for T-Mobile. LOL.
Thanks all for the useful information and help. The error they encountered is that they could not load the ESN to the Sprint PLBL database. They got error like incompatible, or unsupported device etc.
Sprint will not add other carries phone to their system. If IMEI is from Verizon it will never work with active or inactive SIM. Only way if it was factory unlocked phone bought from Samsung.
Did anyone find a solution to this? Moved to Sprint BYOD two days ago with my Verizon note8 and it won't work. The phone keeps asking for a Verizon since. I am at second Sprint repair center as I type this. Please tell me it can be fixed. Thanks.
I am in the same boat, Paid off my wife's Iphone7+ and my Note 8 with Verizon and then tried to BYOD with sprint and they are unable to activate. Verizon informed me that their devices are 100% not locked and Sprint has no clue.
You could try other carriers like straightalk or tmobile maybe even metro pcs but it will not work with sprint. They are a pain and don't allow other carrier phones on their network.
I purchased a Verizon Note 8 , which was paid off and unlocked. Successfully activated on Sprint using my existing Active Sprint sim card.
Everything looks good, just one major issue, I am stuck with 3G internet. Still not able to get 4G LTE on Sprint.
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I purchased a Verizon Note 8 , which was paid off and unlocked. Successfully activated on Sprint using my existing Active Sprint sim card.
Everything looks good, just one major issue, I am stuck with 3G internet. Still not able to get 4G LTE on Sprint.
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you need to enter sprints apn bro then you will have 4G.
I have the reverse issue. I have the opportunity to get a good deal on a Sprint Note 8, but I want to use it on Verizon. Assuming the device is not blacklisted, would there be any issue with this? Buying a sprint-branded phone and using it on Verizon's CDMA network? Are all the bands the same? I get 3 checkmarks on willmyphonework.com (but they didn't have the Note 8 yet, just the Note 7)