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Bought a AT&T Note 3, can i not activate it?

So basically my roomie was kind enough to let me use his discount to buy a note 3 since i'm not eligible for a while.
Obviously the phone is for me, even though we bought it thru his account.
So do I still need to call AT&T and activate the phone (it came with a sim card in the package)
Or i can just ignore the sim card and calling them and just use the new note 3 with my sim card, and he uses his iphone with his old sim card thats already in there.
Do you know how does the whole thing work?

idobref said:
So basically my roomie was kind enough to let me use his discount to buy a note 3 since i'm not eligible for a while.
Obviously the phone is for me, even though we bought it thru his account.
So do I still need to call AT&T and activate the phone (it came with a sim card in the package)
Or i can just ignore the sim card and calling them and just use the new note 3 with my sim card, and he uses his iphone with his old sim card thats already in there.
Do you know how does the whole thing work?
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If you already have your own SIM card linked to your account, just put it in the phone and you are good to go as long as the phone is an ATT model. Also the phone will only work with a MicroSIM regular sized SIMs will not fit this phone.
On ATT the phone has no bearing on your account. What you are paying for is the SIM. I bought a Lumia when my contract renewed with ATT. Could not stand it so I bought an N3 full price and slapped my card in it. The device is even updated on my account on the website as being a N3 and not a Lumia.

oh cool.
So i dont have to do anything?
ATT doesnt care that the phone was never activvated?

idobref said:
oh cool.
So i dont have to do anything?
ATT doesnt care that the phone was never activvated?
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On ATT phones are not activated. They are ready to use out of the box. The SIM is the key. All your account data is linked to the SIM, not the phone. You can use any phone that ATT sells on your account and you don't have to buy it from ATT . I bought my N3 on Amazon at full price but I still use it on my Lumia account. The exception is if you use a smartphone on a none smartphone account, when they see it on the network they will upgrade you and charge you accordingly. You cannot use ATT with a smartphone on a standard phone account.

OK let me shed some light. If you call and give them the imel number of the new phone then its registered and if you have the insurance it will automatically be transferred to the new phone regardless where you got it. That's the benefit. I have my Lumia insurance with att and my note 3 and s4 with square trade.
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i bought att note 3 on ebay. i just put my sim card in. it work perfectly.

ww3funs said:
i bought att note 3 on ebay. i just put my sim card in. it work perfectly.
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are you sure it isnt a fake one.

Must use new sim

Not sure if this is the right place but this post is just to inform people of what i learned the hard way today.
There are new SIM cards, they should come shipped with your phone. If you are like me, you just toss your old card in and go with it. I was unable to get LTE with it, but i didnt know that was the issue. I went to the store, they gave me a new SIM to try, and the same thing. The manager got involved and when she looked at the SIM she said it wasnt right. Apparently, the new SIM cards have grey and purple on them in one of the corners. Not 100% what it is but one of the guys said it had something to do with ISIS.
Anyways, long story short if you are getting 4g in the notification, but not LTE and you ,know you are in an LTE area, make sure you are using one of the new SIM cards, it is apparently a requirement because as soon as we put one in, i was good to go.

cloudraker said:
Not sure if this is the right place but this post is just to inform people of what i learned the hard way today.
There are new SIM cards, they should come shipped with your phone. If you are like me, you just toss your old card in and go with it. I was unable to get LTE with it, but i didnt know that was the issue. I went to the store, they gave me a new SIM to try, and the same thing. The manager got involved and when she looked at the SIM she said it wasnt right. Apparently, the new SIM cards have grey and purple on them in one of the corners. Not 100% what it is but one of the guys said it had something to do with ISIS.
Anyways, long story short if you are getting 4g in the notification, but not LTE and you ,know you are in an LTE area, make sure you are using one of the new SIM cards, it is apparently a requirement because as soon as we put one in, i was good to go.
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More than likely the ISIS issue has to do with a secure element SIM. LTE should be available as long as a LTE enabled SIM is used but it will be interesting to see if AT&T has changed the game again. I guess we will soon know when others try to use their LTE enabled SIMs (from their S4s) in their S5s.

scott14719 said:
More than likely the ISIS issue has to do with a secure element SIM. LTE should be available as long as a LTE enabled SIM is used but it will be interesting to see if AT&T has changed the game again. I guess we will soon know when others try to use their LTE enabled SIMs (from their S4s) in their S5s.
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I was using an LTE enabled SIM from my G2, and the new one they gave me originally was also an LTE enabled SIM. Thats the reason for this post. The new SIM has to be used, at least thats the only way they were able to get LTE to work on mine and i truly dont think thats coincidence.

cloudraker said:
I was using an LTE enabled SIM from my G2, and the new one they gave me originally was also an LTE enabled SIM. Thats the reason for this post. The new SIM has to be used, at least thats the only way they were able to get LTE to work on mine and i truly dont think thats coincidence.
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That's interesting, but not surprising. I have to wonder if they did it to keep people from just switching SIM cards from an older phone to a newer phone without telling AT&T.

scott14719 said:
That's interesting, but not surprising. I have to wonder if they did it to keep people from just switching SIM cards from an older phone to a newer phone without telling AT&T.
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That was the store managers theory as well. They hadnt even unboxed the new SIMs yet, so i had to hang out for a bit to wait on it.

LTE worked for me with old sim i had from SGS4 , but ISIS complained that it's not secure sim ect. ISIS wont work with old sim, if you dont care for ISIS old sim should get you LTE if you had it before.
New sim did come with the my SGS5 phone when i preordered , droped that in called customer rep to provision it and was set.

ordered mine with Next program, and it shipped with a new sim. Ignored the new sim. popped my nano sim card in using an adapter and works well and I get LTE.

not true. i popped the same micro sim from my S3 into my S5 last night and it worked perfectly fine. LTE works and is just as fast. the only thing was the ISIS app was complaining that i needed to use the new sim to use the new features. I disabled ISIS completely and no more notifications.

ExTREmE99 said:
not true. i popped the same micro sim from my S3 into my S5 last night and it worked perfectly fine. LTE works and is just as fast. the only thing was the ISIS app was complaining that i needed to use the new sim to use the new features. I disabled ISIS completely and no more notifications.
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I am also using my S3 sim in my S5 showing LTE and getting LTE speeds with no error messages. Not sure what ISIS is though.

Pretty sure the new gray sim card is built out of security to use ISIS ( an E- wallet that use money in your cellphone account, etc ).
When I switch from G2 to Note 3, the guy in AT&T store ask me to change the sim card.
The season is just to make sure ISIS is secure when you doing transaction using your phone

laofan said:
Pretty sure the new gray sim card is built out of security to use ISIS ( an E- wallet that use money in your cellphone account, etc ).
When I switch from G2 to Note 3, the guy in AT&T store ask me to change the sim card.
The season is just to make sure ISIS is secure when you doing transaction using your phone
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Well, that's exactly what I said to start with but the OP insisted a new SIM was needed for LTE.

Also using a SIM that is about 2 years old.
On top of that I was constantly (like 2-3 times a week) switching between an S4, Nexus 5, and an iphone 5 with out issues and got LTE on all of them.

shockandawe said:
ordered mine with Next program, and it shipped with a new sim. Ignored the new sim. popped my nano sim card in using an adapter and works well and I get LTE.
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Same here and all is well. ISIS wont work but I dont care for now.

scott14719 said:
Well, that's exactly what I said to start with but the OP insisted a new SIM was needed for LTE.
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Maybe im just a bad bad man trying to spread misinformation to the masses. J/K
I was simply sharing what had been determined by myself and a few at the AT&T store. If its wrong, i apologize. Like i stated we had tested with 2 other SIM cards, the old style and even after several reboots, we could never get it to switch from 4g to 4g LTE. Of course as its been mentioned here, i also find it odd that in the time we had other SIM cards in, i never saw an ISIS error. Maybe my phone is just jank.

No harm in the info just had that problem today with gf pro. She wanted to use isis to get the free 50 bones they are offering and she had to get the new Sim with secure in it.
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My question is will Google wallet still work after the new Sim it installed and setup with old Sim have not tested tap and pay yet
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bookmonke said:
My question is will Google wallet still work after the new Sim it installed and setup with old Sim have not tested tap and pay yet
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That wasn't easy to follow, but if you are asking if you can switch back to an old sim card after ISIS is setup, the answer is no. The new sim with the secure element must be used for ISIS to function.

Yes it was but have wallet already set up and want to get the new Sim, was hoping it doesn't kill wallet
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bookmonke said:
Yes it was but have wallet already set up and want to get the new Sim, was hoping it doesn't kill wallet
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the wallet wont work without the secure sim

Without using the new sim Isis wallet will not work and you will not receive the $50.00 on Serve.

Sim Card Not Compatible

So not only is AT&T locking out bootloaders now, but they're making it so you can't easily swap sim card from phone to phone. My boyfriend just bit the bullet Tuesday and got a S5 on the next plan.. gave me his S4 to play with. I successfully have root and slim rom installed on it... however when I put my sim card from my S5 into the S4, it cannot read it... thinks there's no sim card. When I put his old sim card back in, it reads fine saying "not improvisioned" so I know it's not hardware related. I've tried the sim on both rooted stock AND slim rom (which is 4.4). I was hoping to use this as a secondary phone :crying: now I'm curious if my daughter's iPhone 5s' sim will work in it...
If I wanted this I'd go to Verizon! WTF!

Well the old sim from the S4 is more than likely dead since he took the number to the S5, as for the S5 sim it has that security on it and I think over in the S4 group you can find a program that runs on the xposed module that stops the phone from checking the sim.
rachelm920 said:
So not only is AT&T locking out bootloaders now, but they're making it so you can't easily swap sim card from phone to phone. My boyfriend just bit the bullet Tuesday and got a S5 on the next plan.. gave me his S4 to play with. I successfully have root and slim rom installed on it... however when I put my sim card from my S5 into the S4, it cannot read it... thinks there's no sim card. When I put his old sim card back in, it reads fine saying "not improvisioned" so I know it's not hardware related. I've tried the sim on both rooted stock AND slim rom (which is 4.4). I was hoping to use this as a secondary phone :crying: now I'm curious if my daughter's iPhone 5s' sim will work in it...
If I wanted this I'd go to Verizon! WTF!
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rachelm920 said:
So not only is AT&T locking out bootloaders now, but they're making it so you can't easily swap sim card from phone to phone. My boyfriend just bit the bullet Tuesday and got a S5 on the next plan.. gave me his S4 to play with. I successfully have root and slim rom installed on it... however when I put my sim card from my S5 into the S4, it cannot read it... thinks there's no sim card. When I put his old sim card back in, it reads fine saying "not improvisioned" so I know it's not hardware related. I've tried the sim on both rooted stock AND slim rom (which is 4.4). I was hoping to use this as a secondary phone :crying: now I'm curious if my daughter's iPhone 5s' sim will work in it...
If I wanted this I'd go to Verizon! WTF!
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its the difference between the type of sim that is used the S5's use an encrypted micro sim versus the S4 which is a standard microsim. you'd have the exact same problem between any two devices with different types of sims no matter who the carrier was.

cstayton said:
its the difference between the type of sim that is used the S5's use an encrypted micro sim versus the S4 which is a standard microsim. you'd have the exact same problem between any two devices with different types of sims no matter who the carrier was.
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I don't think this is problem. I put card from old S3 to my S5 and have zero problems.
Swiping from dark side of Galaxy S5.

I put the SIM from my S5 into my S2 Skyrocket (with an adapter) and the Skyrocket worked just fine. Skyrocket is running CM11.

Maybe if I went to AT&T and told them I wanted to be able to use both an S4 & S5 they'd give me a new sim card that's not encrypted?? When I first got my S5 my S3 card worked in it for about 24 hours, then said it was not improvisioned because it had switched over to the new card. If I had never followed their instructions (per the insert with the phone) and entered the new Sim card's information online I would still be using the same un-encrypted sim from my S3.
I really miss root & CM11

Go to bestbuy and buy a simcard for your s4, its 30$ and its just a standard simcard we use on every micro sim device. (I work there)
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[Q] Verizon couldn't activate my Nexus 6 bought from Moto - HELP!

Brought my new Nexus 6 from Moto Store to VZW today and the rep said it could not be activated. Said the phone doesn't show up in their system.
So I resorted to cutting down my Note 3's Micro Sim. I have barely any plastic left on the sim now but it doesn't fit in the tray. What am I doing wrong?
Please help.

I'd ask them to activate a Nano SIM for your Note 3, then swap it into the Nexus 6. It shows up in their system as a "Non VZW Device." If they refuse, try calling other stores until you find one that'll do it for you.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/1...ivate-your-new-nexus-6-here-are-your-options/

nbajwill55 said:
I'd ask them to activate a Nano SIM for your Note 3, then swap it into the Nexus 6. It shows up in their system as a "Non VZW Device." If they refuse, try calling other stores until you find one that'll do it for you.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/1...ivate-your-new-nexus-6-here-are-your-options/
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Thanks. I did see that link.
But how would Verizon give me a Nano Sim for my Note 3 when it takes Micro Sim?

It's my understanding that they can activate the Nano SIM through their computers without actually having to place it in the phone.

Tell them to give you a nano Sim and an adapter so it will work in your note3.
Tell them you are wanting yo future proof your Sim card. Should be no charge.
Then do the swap as suggested above.

From what I've been told, verizon won't activate a nano sim for a phone that doesn't take a nano sim. I would keep trying stores or ask if they can activate it on an in store device and then swap it to your phone. They did for me.

epphllps said:
From what I've been told, verizon won't activate a nano sim for a phone that doesn't take a nano sim. I would keep trying stores or ask if they can activate it on an in store device and then swap it to your phone. They did for me.
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I called customer service, gave them the part number posted elsewhere in these threads & they sent my nano sim free of charge. Once in hand, I put it into a micro adapter and put it into my vzw galaxy S4, called customer service and they activated the Sim in my s4. Then I transferred the sim to my Nexus 6. Everything works fine once I reset network from global to LTE.

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I wanted to share my experience activating a nano sim for a LG G2 on Verizon in anticipation of my Nexus 6 arrival (which I bought from Motorola's website). I went to the Verizon store and requested a nano sim but they refused unless I had a device that took one. I tried various stories and stores trying to get a sim with no success. I called customer service and requested a nano sim the rep said, "sure no problem," and three days later I got a micro sim in the mail. I called back and this rep said the problem was their system automatically issues the sim appropriate to the device on the account. She transferred me to technical support and the guy somehow got a nano sim order for my current device (LG G2). I bought a nano to micro adapter and today the nano sim arrived. I put it in the phone went online and activated it. No problems! I now have a nano sim ready for when my Nexus 6 arrives. I can't believe it worked, I thought I was going to have to cut my micro sim. Any way, good luck to other Verizon customers that don't have a nano sim already. I guess you can ask for tech support and hope they are cool like they were for me. 

atrain1976 said:
I wanted to share my experience activating a nano sim for a LG G2 on Verizon in anticipation of my Nexus 6 arrival (which I bought from Motorola's website). I went to the Verizon store and requested a nano sim but they refused unless I had a device that took one. I tried various stories and stores trying to get a sim with no success. I called customer service and requested a nano sim the rep said, "sure no problem," and three days later I got a micro sim in the mail. I called back and this rep said the problem was their system automatically issues the sim appropriate to the device on the account. She transferred me to technical support and the guy somehow got a nano sim order for my current device (LG G2). I bought a nano to micro adapter and today the nano sim arrived. I put it in the phone went online and activated it. No problems! I now have a nano sim ready for when my Nexus 6 arrives. I can't believe it worked, I thought I was going to have to cut my micro sim. Any way, good luck to other Verizon customers that don't have a nano sim already. I guess you can ask for tech support and hope they are cool like they were for me. 
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Closely parallels my experience.

nbajwill55 said:
It's my understanding that they can activate the Nano SIM through their computers without actually having to place it in the phone.
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Went back to the store to try this. He wasn't able to activate a nano sim for my note 3 because system said incompatible device. While he's standing there scratching his head I ask him for a pair of scissors. I look at the nano he was about to give me and I cut my micro to the same size. Throw it in the Nexus and it worked.
All set.

Ummmm yeaaaahh. I had this problem too. Coming from a Note 4, I had a micro sim so I ordered a nano knowing that is what I would need. I got the nano long before my phone arrived. Upon placing the nano in the N6 and trying to activate, VZW told me they don't support the phone and could not activate. Convinced the dude to activate the nano sim anyway but it still would not work on the VZW network. When I tried to place a call I got patched to an operator to make a global call using a credit card. Not ideal Finally I reverted back to the nano sim that I had saved from the driod turbo I bought (returned a week later) and called support level 2 once again. They guy said the sim was deactivated since it had been a couple weeks since it was active on the network. After a couple attempts, he was able to finaggle the turbos nano sim # to once again become active. I slapped that puppy in the N6 and she started working finally. Phew!
I bought a nano to micro sim adapter that I use to go between the N6 and Note 4 that works without issue. If I didn't have the nano from the turbo I am afraid I would still be without a functional N6. The VZW reps in my town are complete idiots and I am sure they wouldn't even try anything to help me out. I guess I got lucky.
The kicker here is why Google advertised this phone to work on VZW with the Verizon logo and everything! I can't believe the VZW support team are oblivious to this device. He said he "heard of the Nexus 6 but know we (they) don't support it". WTF gives!?!?!?

wtherrell said:
I called customer service, gave them the part number posted elsewhere in these threads & they sent my nano sim free of charge. Once in hand, I put it into a micro adapter and put it into my vzw galaxy S4, called customer service and they activated the Sim in my s4. Then I transferred the sim to my Nexus 6. Everything works fine once I reset network from global to LTE.
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Yes you can do that, as well. My reply to the other post still stands. If you say you need a nano for a device that doesn't need one then you won't get it lol. If you call all you have to do is say you want a nano sim for an M8 and if you go in store all you have to do is ask them to activate it on another device in their store and then swap it to your nexus 6. Can't ask for a nano sim for a micro sim device, is my point. Verizon won't go for that, but there happens to be plenty of workarounds.

I spent an hour and a half at verizon trying to get a nano. Coming from the note 3 they wouldn't give me one regardless because of their system showing only micro compatible. I went to best buy. The lady pulled out a nano sim, activated it on my account no questions. Popped it in my nexus and all worked fine. Also gave me nano to micro adapter free of charge

I bought a Moto X from a VZW store last month so already had nano sim. I popped my nano sim in my new 6 today and got service within 30 seconds. Everything works like a champ.

wtherrell said:
I called customer service, gave them the part number posted elsewhere in these threads & they sent my nano sim free of charge. Once in hand, I put it into a micro adapter and put it into my vzw galaxy S4, called customer service and they activated the Sim in my s4. Then I transferred the sim to my Nexus 6. Everything works fine once I reset network from global to LTE.
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Just to be clear, was your S4 the phone you were using prior to getting the N6? It was already active on VZW with a micro SIM when you called to activate the nano SIM?

HankStorm said:
Just to be clear, was your S4 the phone you were using prior to getting the N6? It was already active on VZW with a micro SIM when you called to activate the nano SIM?
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Yes, exactly

Activation on Verizon
I came from a S3 micro sim. I ordered a nano sim via the phone and had it activated once it arrived. While having it activated, my S3 was turned off and sim removed. I also had an issue with my N6 not being recognized. Once I explained the issue, they activated the sim alone. No issues since. I've been into the store and I've seen one tech guy with an N6.

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Yes, exactly
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Thanks. Ordered my nano SIM today and will try the same approach with my S3 once it arrives so I'm ready to go once my N6 gets here.

So I spent an hour and half in Verizon today. The person I had could not get my N6 on Verizon. I pulled out my old Galaxy Nexus and activated that phone. I came home and called customer service and told them I just purchased an M8. They are sending me a nano sim. What exactly do I do when the nano sim arrives?
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Just adding this in, I bought a Sprint N6 and have been using it all day on VZW LTE and all! WOOT!

Galaxy Note 5: Setting Up With Service Provider?

Setting up with service provider?
Hello. For those of you who hate noobs in this forum, prepare to cringe a little bit. So I plan on getting the International Model of the Galaxy Note 5, but I have NO IDEA how it works, setting up the sim card and all. I've had some pretty extensive issues with phones and setting it up with my carrier and such. Is it as simple as popping in the SIM card, or do you have to do more than that?
Thanks

What carrier are you on and which model specifically are you looking at?

It's been a while since I get an international phone (I'm with AT&T). The last time I did, all I have to do is insert the sim card. Likewise when I bring my phone out of the U.S., all I have to do is insert a local sim card.

CrimsonKatsuro said:
Is it as simple as popping in the SIM cardThanks
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Usually, yes
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