So not only is AT&T locking out bootloaders now, but they're making it so you can't easily swap sim card from phone to phone. My boyfriend just bit the bullet Tuesday and got a S5 on the next plan.. gave me his S4 to play with. I successfully have root and slim rom installed on it... however when I put my sim card from my S5 into the S4, it cannot read it... thinks there's no sim card. When I put his old sim card back in, it reads fine saying "not improvisioned" so I know it's not hardware related. I've tried the sim on both rooted stock AND slim rom (which is 4.4). I was hoping to use this as a secondary phone :crying: now I'm curious if my daughter's iPhone 5s' sim will work in it...
If I wanted this I'd go to Verizon! WTF!
Well the old sim from the S4 is more than likely dead since he took the number to the S5, as for the S5 sim it has that security on it and I think over in the S4 group you can find a program that runs on the xposed module that stops the phone from checking the sim.
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So not only is AT&T locking out bootloaders now, but they're making it so you can't easily swap sim card from phone to phone. My boyfriend just bit the bullet Tuesday and got a S5 on the next plan.. gave me his S4 to play with. I successfully have root and slim rom installed on it... however when I put my sim card from my S5 into the S4, it cannot read it... thinks there's no sim card. When I put his old sim card back in, it reads fine saying "not improvisioned" so I know it's not hardware related. I've tried the sim on both rooted stock AND slim rom (which is 4.4). I was hoping to use this as a secondary phone :crying: now I'm curious if my daughter's iPhone 5s' sim will work in it...
If I wanted this I'd go to Verizon! WTF!
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So not only is AT&T locking out bootloaders now, but they're making it so you can't easily swap sim card from phone to phone. My boyfriend just bit the bullet Tuesday and got a S5 on the next plan.. gave me his S4 to play with. I successfully have root and slim rom installed on it... however when I put my sim card from my S5 into the S4, it cannot read it... thinks there's no sim card. When I put his old sim card back in, it reads fine saying "not improvisioned" so I know it's not hardware related. I've tried the sim on both rooted stock AND slim rom (which is 4.4). I was hoping to use this as a secondary phone :crying: now I'm curious if my daughter's iPhone 5s' sim will work in it...
If I wanted this I'd go to Verizon! WTF!
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its the difference between the type of sim that is used the S5's use an encrypted micro sim versus the S4 which is a standard microsim. you'd have the exact same problem between any two devices with different types of sims no matter who the carrier was.
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its the difference between the type of sim that is used the S5's use an encrypted micro sim versus the S4 which is a standard microsim. you'd have the exact same problem between any two devices with different types of sims no matter who the carrier was.
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I don't think this is problem. I put card from old S3 to my S5 and have zero problems.
Swiping from dark side of Galaxy S5.
I put the SIM from my S5 into my S2 Skyrocket (with an adapter) and the Skyrocket worked just fine. Skyrocket is running CM11.
Maybe if I went to AT&T and told them I wanted to be able to use both an S4 & S5 they'd give me a new sim card that's not encrypted?? When I first got my S5 my S3 card worked in it for about 24 hours, then said it was not improvisioned because it had switched over to the new card. If I had never followed their instructions (per the insert with the phone) and entered the new Sim card's information online I would still be using the same un-encrypted sim from my S3.
I really miss root & CM11
Go to bestbuy and buy a simcard for your s4, its 30$ and its just a standard simcard we use on every micro sim device. (I work there)
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This is weird...
i got 2 weeks ago a new galaxy s2 att and used fine for a week with a standard straight talk sim card that i cut myself to fit the micro sim port...
it worked fine for a week calls, internet message, media message, everything.
i was charging the phone on the wall one day and when i get it to make a phone call i noticed not sim card inserted error...
i cleaned contact reinserted nothing....i put in my wife phone sim card is perfect.
i sent my galaxy out for repair at the same time i got this great deal on craiglist an atrix hd for $100...
I inserted the same sim card and everything was fine untill yesterday....i got sim card not inserted error...ohmygod i said please dont tell me....
reset phone cleaned contacts nothing ......
My question is can a sim card damage the phone?
Both phone were rooted
Both phones were att provider using straight talk service
Both phones were 4g
I removed from both phones the att junk
Any of this they may have somehow locked the sim card port or damaged it?
It can not be a coincidence any expert can get a good answer?
I'm going crazy
I had the same problem back when I had my One X and my brother had the same problem with his Atrix HD because we cut down our SIM Cards. After I got an official Micro SIM the problem stopped. When you cut your own Micro SIM you stand the chance of trimming off too much. Even if its only a small amount it can still cause the SIM to move around which causes the connection loss.
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htchd2fix said:
This is weird...
i got 2 weeks ago a new galaxy s2 att and used fine for a week with a standard straight talk sim card that i cut myself to fit the micro sim port...
it worked fine for a week calls, internet message, media message, everything.
i was charging the phone on the wall one day and when i get it to make a phone call i noticed not sim card inserted error...
i cleaned contact reinserted nothing....i put in my wife phone sim card is perfect.
i sent my galaxy out for repair at the same time i got this great deal on craiglist an atrix hd for $100...
I inserted the same sim card and everything was fine untill yesterday....i got sim card not inserted error...ohmygod i said please dont tell me....
reset phone cleaned contacts nothing ......
My question is can a sim card damage the phone?
Both phone were rooted
Both phones were att provider using straight talk service
Both phones were 4g
I removed from both phones the att junk
Any of this they may have somehow locked the sim card port or damaged it?
It can not be a coincidence any expert can get a good answer?
I'm going crazy
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You are not crazy , you just lack good logical reasoning . The common thing is the sim . I have no idea why you would send your phone for repair when the other sim worked perfectly . If sim port was damaged , it wouldn't have worked with any sim . Get a new sim , report the old one as lost . Ask for micro sim as the replacement or cut it with a micro sim cutter ( Available at most service providers cust service centers or buy one from ebay , they are cheap ) .
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RCon227 said:
I had the same problem back when I had my One X and my brother had the same problem with his Atrix HD because we cut down our SIM Cards. After I got an official Micro SIM the problem stopped. When you cut your own Micro SIM you stand the chance of trimming off too much. Even if its only a small amount it can still cause the SIM to move around which causes the connection loss.
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That's true , cutting with scissors can be tricky . However I cut my SIM with a micro sim cutter and everything is perfect for the past 2 months . Even if you go to some customer service center (atleast here ) , they do the same cutting with a micro sim cutter . I find the whole filling the application with giving my ID proof again and then getting the active connection in another 24hrs on the replaced micro sim very tedious .
I use microsim cutter which I bought only about 5$. It works perfectly. I can even use the cutting side to cover the microsim as mini sim again.
thanx friends, your answers gimme some hope that in fact is the sim card that does not make good contact.
still cant explain why when i insert other sim card inactive the phones wont read them at all...(.like this is another provider enter unlock code)
just i wish somebody of the experts here can assure me that the sim card can not damage the fone or lock it.
(of course i'm not talking physical damage at the pin point)
thanx
So basically my roomie was kind enough to let me use his discount to buy a note 3 since i'm not eligible for a while.
Obviously the phone is for me, even though we bought it thru his account.
So do I still need to call AT&T and activate the phone (it came with a sim card in the package)
Or i can just ignore the sim card and calling them and just use the new note 3 with my sim card, and he uses his iphone with his old sim card thats already in there.
Do you know how does the whole thing work?
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So basically my roomie was kind enough to let me use his discount to buy a note 3 since i'm not eligible for a while.
Obviously the phone is for me, even though we bought it thru his account.
So do I still need to call AT&T and activate the phone (it came with a sim card in the package)
Or i can just ignore the sim card and calling them and just use the new note 3 with my sim card, and he uses his iphone with his old sim card thats already in there.
Do you know how does the whole thing work?
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If you already have your own SIM card linked to your account, just put it in the phone and you are good to go as long as the phone is an ATT model. Also the phone will only work with a MicroSIM regular sized SIMs will not fit this phone.
On ATT the phone has no bearing on your account. What you are paying for is the SIM. I bought a Lumia when my contract renewed with ATT. Could not stand it so I bought an N3 full price and slapped my card in it. The device is even updated on my account on the website as being a N3 and not a Lumia.
oh cool.
So i dont have to do anything?
ATT doesnt care that the phone was never activvated?
idobref said:
oh cool.
So i dont have to do anything?
ATT doesnt care that the phone was never activvated?
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On ATT phones are not activated. They are ready to use out of the box. The SIM is the key. All your account data is linked to the SIM, not the phone. You can use any phone that ATT sells on your account and you don't have to buy it from ATT . I bought my N3 on Amazon at full price but I still use it on my Lumia account. The exception is if you use a smartphone on a none smartphone account, when they see it on the network they will upgrade you and charge you accordingly. You cannot use ATT with a smartphone on a standard phone account.
OK let me shed some light. If you call and give them the imel number of the new phone then its registered and if you have the insurance it will automatically be transferred to the new phone regardless where you got it. That's the benefit. I have my Lumia insurance with att and my note 3 and s4 with square trade.
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i bought att note 3 on ebay. i just put my sim card in. it work perfectly.
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i bought att note 3 on ebay. i just put my sim card in. it work perfectly.
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are you sure it isnt a fake one.
Brought my new Nexus 6 from Moto Store to VZW today and the rep said it could not be activated. Said the phone doesn't show up in their system.
So I resorted to cutting down my Note 3's Micro Sim. I have barely any plastic left on the sim now but it doesn't fit in the tray. What am I doing wrong?
Please help.
I'd ask them to activate a Nano SIM for your Note 3, then swap it into the Nexus 6. It shows up in their system as a "Non VZW Device." If they refuse, try calling other stores until you find one that'll do it for you.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/1...ivate-your-new-nexus-6-here-are-your-options/
nbajwill55 said:
I'd ask them to activate a Nano SIM for your Note 3, then swap it into the Nexus 6. It shows up in their system as a "Non VZW Device." If they refuse, try calling other stores until you find one that'll do it for you.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/1...ivate-your-new-nexus-6-here-are-your-options/
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Thanks. I did see that link.
But how would Verizon give me a Nano Sim for my Note 3 when it takes Micro Sim?
It's my understanding that they can activate the Nano SIM through their computers without actually having to place it in the phone.
Tell them to give you a nano Sim and an adapter so it will work in your note3.
Tell them you are wanting yo future proof your Sim card. Should be no charge.
Then do the swap as suggested above.
From what I've been told, verizon won't activate a nano sim for a phone that doesn't take a nano sim. I would keep trying stores or ask if they can activate it on an in store device and then swap it to your phone. They did for me.
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From what I've been told, verizon won't activate a nano sim for a phone that doesn't take a nano sim. I would keep trying stores or ask if they can activate it on an in store device and then swap it to your phone. They did for me.
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I called customer service, gave them the part number posted elsewhere in these threads & they sent my nano sim free of charge. Once in hand, I put it into a micro adapter and put it into my vzw galaxy S4, called customer service and they activated the Sim in my s4. Then I transferred the sim to my Nexus 6. Everything works fine once I reset network from global to LTE.
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I wanted to share my experience activating a nano sim for a LG G2 on Verizon in anticipation of my Nexus 6 arrival (which I bought from Motorola's website). I went to the Verizon store and requested a nano sim but they refused unless I had a device that took one. I tried various stories and stores trying to get a sim with no success. I called customer service and requested a nano sim the rep said, "sure no problem," and three days later I got a micro sim in the mail. I called back and this rep said the problem was their system automatically issues the sim appropriate to the device on the account. She transferred me to technical support and the guy somehow got a nano sim order for my current device (LG G2). I bought a nano to micro adapter and today the nano sim arrived. I put it in the phone went online and activated it. No problems! I now have a nano sim ready for when my Nexus 6 arrives. I can't believe it worked, I thought I was going to have to cut my micro sim. Any way, good luck to other Verizon customers that don't have a nano sim already. I guess you can ask for tech support and hope they are cool like they were for me.
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I wanted to share my experience activating a nano sim for a LG G2 on Verizon in anticipation of my Nexus 6 arrival (which I bought from Motorola's website). I went to the Verizon store and requested a nano sim but they refused unless I had a device that took one. I tried various stories and stores trying to get a sim with no success. I called customer service and requested a nano sim the rep said, "sure no problem," and three days later I got a micro sim in the mail. I called back and this rep said the problem was their system automatically issues the sim appropriate to the device on the account. She transferred me to technical support and the guy somehow got a nano sim order for my current device (LG G2). I bought a nano to micro adapter and today the nano sim arrived. I put it in the phone went online and activated it. No problems! I now have a nano sim ready for when my Nexus 6 arrives. I can't believe it worked, I thought I was going to have to cut my micro sim. Any way, good luck to other Verizon customers that don't have a nano sim already. I guess you can ask for tech support and hope they are cool like they were for me.
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Closely parallels my experience.
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It's my understanding that they can activate the Nano SIM through their computers without actually having to place it in the phone.
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Went back to the store to try this. He wasn't able to activate a nano sim for my note 3 because system said incompatible device. While he's standing there scratching his head I ask him for a pair of scissors. I look at the nano he was about to give me and I cut my micro to the same size. Throw it in the Nexus and it worked.
All set.
Ummmm yeaaaahh. I had this problem too. Coming from a Note 4, I had a micro sim so I ordered a nano knowing that is what I would need. I got the nano long before my phone arrived. Upon placing the nano in the N6 and trying to activate, VZW told me they don't support the phone and could not activate. Convinced the dude to activate the nano sim anyway but it still would not work on the VZW network. When I tried to place a call I got patched to an operator to make a global call using a credit card. Not ideal Finally I reverted back to the nano sim that I had saved from the driod turbo I bought (returned a week later) and called support level 2 once again. They guy said the sim was deactivated since it had been a couple weeks since it was active on the network. After a couple attempts, he was able to finaggle the turbos nano sim # to once again become active. I slapped that puppy in the N6 and she started working finally. Phew!
I bought a nano to micro sim adapter that I use to go between the N6 and Note 4 that works without issue. If I didn't have the nano from the turbo I am afraid I would still be without a functional N6. The VZW reps in my town are complete idiots and I am sure they wouldn't even try anything to help me out. I guess I got lucky.
The kicker here is why Google advertised this phone to work on VZW with the Verizon logo and everything! I can't believe the VZW support team are oblivious to this device. He said he "heard of the Nexus 6 but know we (they) don't support it". WTF gives!?!?!?
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I called customer service, gave them the part number posted elsewhere in these threads & they sent my nano sim free of charge. Once in hand, I put it into a micro adapter and put it into my vzw galaxy S4, called customer service and they activated the Sim in my s4. Then I transferred the sim to my Nexus 6. Everything works fine once I reset network from global to LTE.
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Yes you can do that, as well. My reply to the other post still stands. If you say you need a nano for a device that doesn't need one then you won't get it lol. If you call all you have to do is say you want a nano sim for an M8 and if you go in store all you have to do is ask them to activate it on another device in their store and then swap it to your nexus 6. Can't ask for a nano sim for a micro sim device, is my point. Verizon won't go for that, but there happens to be plenty of workarounds.
I spent an hour and a half at verizon trying to get a nano. Coming from the note 3 they wouldn't give me one regardless because of their system showing only micro compatible. I went to best buy. The lady pulled out a nano sim, activated it on my account no questions. Popped it in my nexus and all worked fine. Also gave me nano to micro adapter free of charge
I bought a Moto X from a VZW store last month so already had nano sim. I popped my nano sim in my new 6 today and got service within 30 seconds. Everything works like a champ.
wtherrell said:
I called customer service, gave them the part number posted elsewhere in these threads & they sent my nano sim free of charge. Once in hand, I put it into a micro adapter and put it into my vzw galaxy S4, called customer service and they activated the Sim in my s4. Then I transferred the sim to my Nexus 6. Everything works fine once I reset network from global to LTE.
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Just to be clear, was your S4 the phone you were using prior to getting the N6? It was already active on VZW with a micro SIM when you called to activate the nano SIM?
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Just to be clear, was your S4 the phone you were using prior to getting the N6? It was already active on VZW with a micro SIM when you called to activate the nano SIM?
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Yes, exactly
Activation on Verizon
I came from a S3 micro sim. I ordered a nano sim via the phone and had it activated once it arrived. While having it activated, my S3 was turned off and sim removed. I also had an issue with my N6 not being recognized. Once I explained the issue, they activated the sim alone. No issues since. I've been into the store and I've seen one tech guy with an N6.
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Yes, exactly
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Thanks. Ordered my nano SIM today and will try the same approach with my S3 once it arrives so I'm ready to go once my N6 gets here.
So I spent an hour and half in Verizon today. The person I had could not get my N6 on Verizon. I pulled out my old Galaxy Nexus and activated that phone. I came home and called customer service and told them I just purchased an M8. They are sending me a nano sim. What exactly do I do when the nano sim arrives?
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Just adding this in, I bought a Sprint N6 and have been using it all day on VZW LTE and all! WOOT!
I recently purchased 2 Droid turbos... I used my old nano Sim and placed them in the new phones.. The turbos both only have 3G... in my old phones they would show 4G can anyone help me out? with suggestions?
Assuming this is for Verizon and not using it on another network. There was some information that the turbos required the sim cards that are listed with NFC on them. Not sure if that was ever proven out or not. I would take them to the local Verizon store and have them swap out the sim cards.
I can attest that the SIM does not need to have NFC on it. I did the same thing - transferred my SIM from my Galaxy S3 to the Turbo, and my 4G is working fine. Did the same thing with my wife's S3 -> Turbo and it works there, too. FWIW, in both cases, I had to cut-down the SIM (did it by hand)...
Can I take the SIM card out of my current Note4 and put it into my Note8? My Note4 and SIM card are just about 3 years old. Is there any lost functionality by not getting a new SIM card or should I just go to a Verizon store and get a newer SIM card? Any advantages or disadvantages to either approach (current SIM card versus new SIM card) like an activation fee or anything like that?
Thanks!
The SIM card is a nano compared to the older micro in your awesome Note4, I had one too before the Note8
You can cut the SIM card to size but there is a chance you can cut it incorrectly and have issues, also a cut SIM card is not covered when you bring it into a store.
Your best bet is go get a new nano SIM at your provider.
I cut my SIM and I am not experiencing any issues but I do want to get a new one soon.
Ok, I figured there was likely a change in something over the last 3 years. Do you know if they will charge me the ridiculous activation fee ($35, i think?)?
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Can I take the SIM card out of my current Note4 and put it into my Note8? My Note4 and SIM card are just about 3 years old. Is there any lost functionality by not getting a new SIM card or should I just go to a Verizon store and get a newer SIM card? Any advantages or disadvantages to either approach (current SIM card versus new SIM card) like an activation fee or anything like that?
Thanks!
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It has been suggested by all carriers that new SIMs be used because there have been several issues with previously used SIMs and provision functionality...in other words, there is better connections and access to carrier functions when using new SIMs...most are free from your carrier...I tested my s7e SIM and a new SIM and while they are both from my carrier, only the new SIM provisioned WiFi calling correctly and there was a considerable change in data speeds...just an idea though...
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It has been suggested by all carriers that new SIMs be used because there have been several issues with previously used SIMs and provision functionality...in other words, there is better connections and access to carrier functions when using new SIMs...most are free from your carrier...I tested my s7e SIM and a new SIM and while they are both from my carrier, only the new SIM provisioned WiFi calling correctly and there was a considerable change in data speeds...just an idea though...
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Thanks. That makes sense. I understand that the SIM is likely free. But, does anyone think Verizon will charge me the activation fee to put provision my Note8 on my account to replace my current Note4?
Thanks again!
One more question... Do i need the SIM card installed in the phone to actually go through the phone setup? I'm guessing not, but wasn't sure if it had to go through the setup all over again once the SIM finally is installed. I should get the phone today but probably won't get to a Verizon store to get a new SIM until a day or 2 from now. Thanks.
blaidan said:
One more question... Do i need the SIM card installed in the phone to actually go through the phone setup? I'm guessing not, but wasn't sure if it had to go through the setup all over again once the SIM finally is installed. I should get the phone today but probably won't get to a Verizon store to get a new SIM until a day or 2 from now. Thanks.
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In most cases you shouldn't, and don't require a SIM card to get through the setup wizard, however I'm not sure if the process is different for US carriers so don't take my word for it.
Popping a SIM card in the phone after setup is complete also shouldn't be a problem.
blaidan said:
Thanks. That makes sense. I understand that the SIM is likely free. But, does anyone think Verizon will charge me the activation fee to put provision my Note8 on my account to replace my current Note4?
Thanks again!
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I just did this yesterday went from the Note 4 to the Note 8 and Verizon gave me the sim for free. The only thing is they had to activate it while in the store so bring you Note 8 with you if you have already bought it. They didn't charge me anything however if you are upgrading through them (getting the Note 8 while there) they may.
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I just did this yesterday went from the Note 4 to the Note 8 and Verizon gave me the sim for free. The only thing is they had to activate it while in the store so bring you Note 8 with you if you have already bought it. They didn't charge me anything however if you are upgrading through them (getting the Note 8 while there) they may.
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This is perfect! I just got my Note8 in the mail today. (came a day earlier than expected)! I'll take it with me over to the Verizon store and hopefully I have the same experience as you did. Thanks!