Do Not Buy Otterbox Defender case - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories

Myself and now a coworker has a cracked screen with the case on. Mine broke last night. I made a previous post about it. Came into work to talk with a friend to warn her and she took off her case and showed me a similar crack that she didn't know she had until I told her about it. I'd advise anyone using it to get a different case.

What is cracking? I have one of these cases and this frightens me!

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Did it crack only because of putting on the case? was it not properly installed and was forced?
Or was it overconfidence in the case, you put it in and threw it to test it?

Okay so my phone dropped between 5-6 ft from my shoulder. Landed on the top left corner. Where the vertical bar is, just to the left the glass is all chipped. I'll try and get some photos later. With the case on you can't see the point of impact. On the case itself you can see the scrape marks where it hit the plastic and broke. I believe the plastic shell was the cause of the crack, it being the first thing to hit the screen if it was the rubber first then the plastic over it wouldn't have done that. Also I have a zagg screen protector on and that was all cracked up and flew off my phone. Was sitting about a foot away from it. My coworker has a crack in hers too with the same case and protector. She just noticed that after I told her about my experience. She took her case off and noticed a crack near the top. That wasn't really noticeable with the case on.

Uh oh maybe I'll be going back to my other case

Hmmm I love my OtterBox defender it's a good case .I drop it a few time and it saved my phone. I wouldn't buy an other case

Here's the pics. The one on my phone, the chipped parts are all covered by the case. The other 2 is where the screen broke and left marks inside the case.

You should email otterbox. That's bull****
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otterbox is trash just like zagg and other overpriced brands. i don't get it why so many people from the US even buy those. probably because they are adviside at the local phone shops? don't get ripped off.
get uag, the samsung rugged case or even a spigen rugged armor.
for screen protectors only whitestone.
im sorry for your (phone) loss

painball64 said:
Here's the pics. The one on my phone, the chipped parts are all covered by the case. The other 2 is where the screen broke and left marks inside the case.
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Do you also use the included case Holster for extra drop protection? I use the case snapped into the holster with the screen facing outwards for that little bit of extra drop protection. I have been using mine for over a month and no issues, I also have a Black Dragon skin from DBrand on the back of the phone.

Last otterbox Defender I used was on an iPhone 4s, never again I promised myself. Reason? The hard inner case tabs left marks on the point of contact on the iphone 4s brushed aluminium frame after I removed it to sell it. Bad design.

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Do you also use the included case Holster for extra drop protection? I use the case snapped into the holster with the screen facing outwards for that little bit of extra drop protection. I have been using mine for over a month and no issues, I also have a Black Dragon skin from DBrand on the back of the phone.
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No not in the case holder. I was done with a call and went to grab it off my shoulder and didn't grab it all the way and fell. I email them yesterday and just waiting for a repply back. If not I'll be making a call soon.

People buy otter box for the same reason they buy iPhone. Because it's a staple name. Just like Kleenex and Kellogg cereal. It's popular known and a brand name. I used to have an otter box, they break so easily.

Well I think it's just this case and the plastic shell design that's the problem. On my note 5 I had the commuter case and that thing save my phone so many times from spills mostly by my kids. But that design was a rubber shell with plastic over that to keep it together. I have even dropped it to show people the durability of it. The defender case design is the flaw here. I still believe they make good case but there not for everyone.

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Well I think it's just this case and the plastic shell design that's the problem. On my note 5 I had the commuter case and that thing save my phone so many times from spills mostly by my kids. But that design was a rubber shell with plastic over that to keep it together. I have even dropped it to show people the durability of it. The defender case design is the flaw here. I still believe they make good case but there not for everyone.
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I agree, the hard inner case where the phone sits inside of is a big no no for me.
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Sadly asurion doesn't have any note 8 too swap out with plus the deductible is 200. Going to have to deal with this for awhile

I never liked the Defender. Way to much bulk and as we see for the Note 8, not enough protection. I would contact Otterbox and try and get s refund.

The problem with the Defender is the sides, edges are front lip glass of the phone are always rubbing against the hard plastic shell of the defender. Don't want the edges of my phone rubbing on hard plastic at any time.
At least the Commuter & Symmetry have soft rubber hitting the phone instead of hard plastic.

felloffthetruck said:
The problem with the Defender is the sides, edges are front lip glass of the phone are always rubbing against the hard plastic shell of the defender. Don't want the edges of my phone rubbing on hard plastic at any time.
At least the Commuter & Symmetry have soft rubber hitting the phone instead of hard plastic.
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But the Defender has a thick rubber as the external shell which would act as the first line of defense against a drop. The Commuter case only has the rubber on the edges (looks more thin and flimsy than the Defender series) and the other hard plastic shell is no where near the edges on the phone.
I have used the Defender series cases for years and have dropped my device a handful of times with no issues. From what I see, the Note8 Defender is built exactly like other Defender cases with the rubber shell on the outside and the hard shell on the inside so why would the Note8 be more vulnerable than other phones?

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But the Defender has a thick rubber as the external shell which would act as the first line of defense against a drop. The Commuter case only has the rubber on the edges (looks more thin and flimsy than the Defender series) and the other hard plastic shell is no where near the edges on the phone.
I have used the Defender series cases for years and have dropped my device a handful of times with no issues. From what I see, the Note8 Defender is built exactly like other Defender cases with the rubber shell on the outside and the hard shell on the inside so why would the Note8 be more vulnerable than other phones?
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Defender is ****s end of . Imagine a bikers helmet with no padding on the inside, smashed against a wall.. pulp.
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Looking for a case? Get the otterbox.

I'm on my 5th day with the case, the case provides the best protection for drops and scuffs but does have a few downfalls.
Pros:
-Sleek Design, doesn't add bulk like Bodyglove.
-Waterproofs and protects ports.
-Scratch proof screen protector like ZAGG.
-Easy install and removal.
Cons:
-Screen protector installation was botched 3 times, if you mess it up like I did by getting dust on the sticky side run it under cold water and apply it wet then remove air bubbles and water with a rag.
-Screen protector bends too easy, a corner is bent upwards.
-the silicon sections of the case collect alot of dust.
-Notification light blocked if its sitting down flat.
-No grip on surfaces like body glove.
I got it for $25 on newegg including shipping. No regrets.
wcgbmd said:
I'm on my 5th day with the case, the case provides the best protection for drops and scuffs but does have a few downfalls.
Pros:
-Sleek Design, doesn't add bulk like Bodyglove.
-Waterproofs and protects ports.
-Scratch proof screen protector like ZAGG.
-Easy install and removal.
Cons:
-Screen protector installation was botched 3 times, if you mess it up like I did by getting dust on the sticky side run it under cold water and apply it wet then remove air bubbles and water with a rag.
-Screen protector bends too easy, a corner is bent upwards.
-the silicon sections of the case collect alot of dust.
-Notification light blocked if its sitting down flat.
-No grip on surfaces like body glove.
I got it for $25 on newegg including shipping. No regrets.
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i would buy one in a heart beat if they came out with a hip holster for it. I always had otterbox cases on my blackberries.
Did you get a commuter or an impact case?
Use a belt holster for the Samsung Moment.....same size as Hero with Otterbox
xxwckdxx said:
i would buy one in a heart beat if they came out with a hip holster for it. I always had otterbox cases on my blackberries.
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i have one but the silicone ruins it for me collects to much dust
i just hate how plaisticy the back case is...i prefer my seidio personally
Yeah, the otterbox is great, but its a dust magnet.
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Ordered mine on Ebay yesterday for 12$. When you guys bring up dust are you talking about it getting dust on the case itself?
reedsw said:
Ordered mine on Ebay yesterday for 12$. When you guys bring up dust are you talking about it getting dust on the case itself?
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In general, soft silicone rubber attracts dust due to static and then holds onto it. The Otterbox has the interior silicone liner that shows around the edges of the snap-on outer hard case.
If you're the type that carries the phone in your pocket, the rim around the screen will tend to grow hair. If you carry it in a holster (I have a generic Case Logic one meant for a Blackberry), you shouldn't have an issue.
reedsw said:
Ordered mine on Ebay yesterday for 12$. When you guys bring up dust are you talking about it getting dust on the case itself?
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No, on the sides of the screen. It happened to me when I had my Body Glove case.
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No, on the sides of the screen. It happened to me when I had my Body Glove case.
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Ah, yes I also had this issue with the body glove case. I don't have an issue right now though with the Otterbox.
For the dust issue there is a really easy fix, rub it off with your fingers it only takes a few seconds. Its a minor annoyance but nothing that makes the case not worth it. So far everything has been great with the case.
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Ah, yes I also had this issue with the body glove case. I don't have an issue right now though with the Otterbox.
For the dust issue there is a really easy fix, rub it off with your fingers it only takes a few seconds. Its a minor annoyance but nothing that makes the case not worth it. So far everything has been great with the case.
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I don't actually OWN the otterbox, but I do want one.... time for an ebay search
I have had my otterbox case (commuter) for my hero for a month and a half now and love it. The case was kinda a bit thing for me as I work at a pizza joint (where we toss our own skins and make our own dough) so flour everywhere is a huge part of everyday for me. Flour has not been nice to my phones in the past completely plugging up virtually every hole available on my phones. So huge selling points for the otterbox was the cover over the headjack and usb port which work like a charm. It does collect dust in the corners but much better to have it collect there than where it can do harm. with a good screen protector on I can cover the speakers from flour also. The case feels natural in your hand and more like a part of the phone than something bulky covering it. It comes in two parts and its easy to take apart yet never comes apart with out you removing it. I pull it off and clean the small build up dust and flour every couple of days and it looks brand new again.
Well thats my review of the case. Oh yeah, one more thing for people who want one, I got mine from amazon.com shipped for $25 flat. So just incase your like me and kinda lost faith in ebay or what have you $25 on amazon is a good deal considering both otterbox.com and the sprint store sell these cases for around $50
The Otterbox Rocks!!!
I mean it!! Ok, let me tell you why!
Ive been skateboarding for a longtime and the things I've done to phones you wouldn't believe!
Ever since I got this otterbox I've thrashed my hero quite a few times from dropping it off my lap getting out of the car, falling on it from takin a crash on my board2, falling off the top of the car.
& it sat in a heavy ring of water for about 30 mins....I had no idea..lmao. Needless to say no water damage to the phone it self. Every opening ie covered and with a full scale screen protector you can make the phone look brandnew anytime you want.
I highly recommend this case! It's protected my phone ALOT!! I still have it
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Picked mine off ebay for 13$. Seems to be good. Got a piece of something under the screen cover and I have a little circle off screen so no big deal. If I put the phone in my jean pocket it is covered in lint when I remove it =) Little tape or some rubbing and it all comes off.
This is my first rubber case for a phone I have owned and I have to say its pretty nice. Full functioning usb, volume, headphone jack, lights and camera while protecting the phone... cant really ask much more than that right?
Had my Otterbox case (Just Impact not Commuter) for about a week now, absolutely thrilled with it. Fits better than my wifes generic brand case, Screen protector is great, even after one failed attempt. Only gripes I have: Picks up any dust or lint or anything extremely easily. Grabs onto my jean pockets a bit too much, pulls them out a little bit. But those small complaints aside it's a great case and a great deal considering the screen protector is included.
bbv203 said:
Use a belt holster for the Samsung Moment.....same size as Hero with Otterbox
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Where did you get the holster. I want to do this too.
http://www.seidio.com/index.html
i searched there website.....i dont see where they sell anything for the samsung moment, especially a belt holster??? because Im very interested in this as a well......
sorry to be a buzzkill but otterbox.com has the hero one for 34.95 but still, 10 bucks is a savings regardless!

Very dissapointed in Otterbox Defender case

I got my new Otterbox Defender case from AT&T today. Only paid $42 with shipping and tax so that wasn't too bad.
I weighed it against my Seidio Active case and holster and the Otterbox with holster weighs 12.5 ounces and the Active case with holster is 10.5 ounces if anybody was interested. Removing the clear plastic protective cover from the Otterbox lightens it by 0.15 ounces or about 4 grams.
I will say this thing feels like it will take a lot of abuse before the phone will break. That is of course, unless the screen is hit by a direct impact that the case can't deflect. Remember, there is a lot of screen area so anything protruding like a rock that makes initial contact with the screen will probably break the screen. No case will stop that.
Things I don't like about the Defender whether I knew about it when ordering or not......
yeah it adds a lot of bulk but not too bad. The volume up and down buttons are not very responsive but I suspect some electrical tape on the inside of the case over the phone buttons should help with that. The power button is actually a little too responsive for my taste. It is very easy to click the power button which sucks because the volume buttons have to be pressed hard and the thumb is usually over near the power button when operating the volume buttons. This leads to easy power button pressing.
The plastic case creaks like a wooden floor in a turn of the century house. What the hell is all of this about. Whether you squeeze the case side to side or twist the phone slightly. I suspect it is the outside case rubbing against the inner hard plastic case. I will try some baby powder on that. Still, the case does not have the rigidity that I was hoping for. If you manually twist the phone case at opposite corners the thing flexes way easily.
I called myself from my home phone, walked away and left the note 2 on the counter. I did not hear any echo from either phone as others have reported. This may show up later thought. If the phones are close together then echo can be present.
The plastic protective cover that comes with the case is garbage. Plain and simple. Yes there is a gap between the plastic and the phone screen. Very annoying. I took the plastic off within a few minutes. I have my own screen protector on it anyway.
I like the charging port and headphone port being covered with the rubber plugs.
When the case is put in the holster there is little leeway where the holster snaps into the detent in the phone edge. Several times I have found that the phone had to be adjusted a bit in order for the case to snap into the holster firmly. This may be a problem down the line or I might just modify it so that this makes a positive connection more easily.
This isn't really a comparison between the Active case and the Defender but I thought I would point out a few things.
I don't like having to use the Defender holster as a kickstand for the phone. The Active case has a built in stand in the case.
I do like the protective lip around the screen of the Defender which is made up of the softer outer shell and the hard plastic inner shell. The outside is not soft and gummy like silicone (like the Active) but a little harder. Kind of like a hard rubber but not as hard as a standard hard plastic if that makes any sense. It has a good feel to it. If the Defender is laid face down the hard lip does nothing to keep it from sliding. If laid on its back it resists sliding a little better depending on the surface. It is the opposite with the Active case. The Active has the silicone lip on the face and keeps the phone from sliding around if place face down. If the Active is placed on its back it will slide because the outside part is hard plastic.
The camera has a nice cutout with a lot of plastic protruding around it. The only way this camera lens is getting damages is if something goes right into the cutout and hits the lens directly. Getting to the stylus is very easy.
Ok, I did take the outer cover off and rubbed some baby powder to the inside. The creaking noise is diminished but still there.
I will try out the otterbox for a while and see how I like it. I work in a factory so it is highly plausible that this could fall off of a 12 foot ladder onto concrete. If I worked in an office I would not be using this case most likely.
I really like the look of the Active case in red much better than the otterbox. Fortunately, I place practicality over fashion generally.
Either way, I will hang on to the case and see what happens. Considering that both of these cases have similar MSRP (prices) the value is definitely in the Otterbox as far as material and engineering. The Active case needs to have a little more engineering and firmer material around the screen. in order to ask as much money as they do.
My biggest issue with the Defender is two fold:
1) Face it, this is an UGLY utilitarian looking case hiding our sexy thin phone. They did NOTHING to add any sex appeal to this case. It's like putting a bikini model in a full length raincoat and buttoning every snap.
2) The plastic screen protector feels cheap, scratchy and provides too much drag on the s-pen.
I got my commuter a few hours ago. It's pretty nice looking, the buttons aren't too hard to press, the cutouts are perfect, and it comes with a screen protector which I choose not to use. I couldn't ask for more from it. I also feel like it's very protective and would survive a 6 ft drop (even though im 5 ft).
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Note_2 said:
I got my commuter a few hours ago. It's pretty nice looking, the buttons aren't too hard to press, the cutouts are perfect, and it comes with a screen protector which I choose not to use. I couldn't ask for more from it. I also feel like it's very protective and would survive a 6 ft drop (even though im 5 ft).
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I haven't had the opportunity to hold the commuter series for this phone. Most of the cases for this phone need to be ordered since nobody seems to have anything in stock for this phone, around where I live, and I live in a decent sized city.
I got the commuter for $35 shipped on amazon. 3-5 day shipping, ordered Wednesday and got it earlier today even though it was expected tomorrow to friday! I tried to buy one closest to me for a decent price and the seller accessory net did great.
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I too have the creaking issue with the Defender. Mine(two of them) also creak and crackle. The plastic part that snaps together does not snap tightly thus causing some play which in turn causes the feeling that there is movement underneath and the creaking sounds. I got a replacement on the first one for this and the second one they sent also does this.
Otter customer service is great but the product right now imo is subpar
It is probably going to creak because it is suppose to flex... that is the whole point of the case absorbing impacts.
My biggest gripe about the Defender case is that dust makes it way in between the case's plastic screen protector and the phone's glass screen. It enters at the Home button mostly and at the top opening for the sensors. I have to open the case at least once a week and wipe out the dust. It's mainly fabric debris from my jeans pocket so I don't think it's anything scratchy.
honestly i hate my commuter case,its to damned fat,but when i drop my 700$ phone ,im happy, strange how that works
oddly enough, the only time I have dropped my Note 2 is when I used the otterbox Defender holster. If the phone case is pushed back and down in the holster when inserting , then the holster tab doesn't fully lock into the notch in the case. I thought I had it snapped in and it fell about 42 inches, I have a 36 inch inseam, and hit the concrete floor. Of course, this is a walk in the park for the Defender case so naturally there was no damage or marks on the case at all, and I wasn't worried about it when I picked the phone up.
My Active case has a much better spring loaded latch design so it is impossible for this to happen.
I actually got my knife out and made a little adjustment on the case notch so this won't happen again.

How much protection does a slim case really offer?

How much does a slim hard case, like the Rearth Ringke, really protect a phone from a drop or fall?
I have never had a case on my phones before. And I'd rather not have a bulky phone. But I've been considering a case as I don't want a busted phone.
I would think that you want want a case that absorbes shock from the fall. But all of the cases that look like they could absorbe shock look huge and bulky. So if a slim hard case really does offer protection then I could see myself rock'n one.
i'm asking myself the same question. I got 3 Mercury TPU cases and they look great, but they're so thin I don't see how much protection they'll offer. then again, my friend dropped his Note II without a case, all he got was scratches in the corners of the phone. the TPU cases will definitely protect from that. but if it's a hard enough fall that will break the screen without a case...I don't think these type of cases will prevent the breakage.
They offer VERY LITTLE protection from falls. They're more for style and scratches.
I mean, take into account that neither the top or bottom is covered. Add to that there is no lip to the front. The plastic is very thin. Probably if you were to drop your device, MAYBE your device would be OK, but the case itself would be destroyed or cracked. Now, that's ONLY if you drop it on the back, or a corner (-1 corner because one of them is exposed).
A TPU case would offer more protection because of it's "jelly" nature, but still, it's for dust or accidental bumps or something like that. Not for "drop" protection. Those are the thicker cases, of course.
I actually bought the Rearth Ringke, but am return it. It was too loose and felt like it would fall off at any moment. There was another slim case at the T-Mobile store. It was thicker and really gripped the phone. It also coverd the top and bottom better. But it's still slim and hard with no shock absorbing properties if it fell.
I think I'll end up getting the Body Glove. It seems thing and have some shock absorbing properties.
This is the case my wife and I have. I have the black one and she has the white one. The black shows fingerprints. I like the white one better.
It will not protect your phone from a drop. It is really only good for stopping scratches on the back and sides.
I probably wouldn't buy it again.
My wife had/has a bodyglove slim TPU case and cracked her screen on her first drop with case on (we have already replaced her phone through Asurion twice now from drops). I believe that case and cases like it are created to add grip and protect from scratches and normal wear while adding almost no bulk, not to protect from fall damage. For that purpose the case is magnificent.
I believe it's the same with the hard slim cases. I have a Rearth white slim case and dropped my phone from my desk onto carpet and the case popped off. It wasn't a high fall and it was on carpet so I had no damage, but I can't see it doing anything for me protectionwise if I dropped it on concrete or blacktop etc.
There's no exact science for that. It really depends on how the phone drops, the surface, the case and even other factors like if you have a heavier extended battery or not.
I had a Galaxy S2 for 18 months, never had a case or screen protector. I dropped it a few times and never had any problems except a few scratches on the corners/plastic. One day I just dropped it again, from hip-height, somehow it landed almost horizontally face-down and cracked the glass (that's what brought me to the Note 2 forum).
A decent bumper case would probably have saved it, by absorbing some of the energy of the fall and probably not allowing direct contact with the floor (most have a 2mm lip over the glass). Even those might not work if you drop it on a pebble or similar.
Bottom line is, a slim case will offer some protection and might save you in specific falls, but offers no guarantee at all.
In the case of the Note 2, I'm definitely using at least a bumper case mostly because it will probably reduce the probability of dropping it. The original body is wide, long and very slippery, with the buttons on the edge, perfect scenario for drops. A rubberized case gives a much better grip and is less likely to fly off my hand as the SGS2 did that day.
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My wife had/has a bodyglove slim TPU case and cracked her screen on her first drop with case on (we have already replaced her phone through Asurion twice now from drops). I believe that case and cases like it are created to add grip and protect from scratches and normal wear while adding almost no bulk, not to protect from fall damage. For that purpose the case is magnificent.
I believe it's the same with the hard slim cases. I have a Rearth white slim case and dropped my phone from my desk onto carpet and the case popped off. It wasn't a high fall and it was on carpet so I had no damage, but I can't see it doing anything for me protectionwise if I dropped it on concrete or blacktop etc.
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It's actually advantageous to have the case "pop-off" because it increases the impulse time of the fall. This allows the energy of the fall to be distributed over a longer period of time. Some cases are actually designed to do this. An analogy would be how modern car bumpers crumple versus how older car bumpers are solid and rigid. The passengers are much less prone to injuries even though the car may look worse off.
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As the previous poster stated, it really depends on the angle/point of impact. Due to the size of the screen, it is much more prone to cracking. This is just the nature of a device this size regardless of gorilla glass or any current synthetically hardened glass (with such a slim profile).
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I had a Belkin thin plastic case (rubbery feel, non flexible) for an iPhone and dropped it on gravel from arm height before. The case dented noticeably but the infamously fragile phone held up.
I'm sure it was mostly luck, but the case being able to absorb, crumple and dissipate the kinetic energy around instead of it being concentrated into one small point on the phone probably helps.
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I can't speak for the slim cases, but during the Holidays, I was sick (and medicated) and dropped my phone 4 times in one day :silly:
All of them were about waist high straight onto tile landing a different way each time. The combination hard plastic / TPU case I bought from china somewhere held up like a champ. No scratches, no dings.... nothing. Phone looks like the day I got it. It's not perfect, but it has done the job. I can guarantee that I would have had some type of regretable damage if it were not for the case that one day.
Only 2 gripes with the case:
1) The clear plastic hard part that covers most of the case scratches easily, so I have those circular swirls that you see all over black cars that are washed with crap towels.
2) The white part that runs around the edges like a bumper stains easily and has a slight blue tint due to my jeans.
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I had a ringke slim case dropped it from 3 feet and my phone slid down the drive way after the fall. Not a single scratch on the phone.. I guess it's just all how you drop it
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We've only dropped our Note 2s a few times, but we had standard tpu cases on our G2Xs for the previous 18 months. Those phones got dropped all the time, and we never had a screen crack or scratch. Tpu isn't a lot of protection, but it's a heck of a lot better than a naked phone. It softens the landing and distributes the impact just enough. I still don't want my 3 year old playing with my phone over concrete, but aside from that, I don't worry too much.
How about metallic bumpers (without any casing)? How much protection would they offer?
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I can't speak for the slim cases, but during the Holidays, I was sick (and medicated) and dropped my phone 4 times in one day :silly:
All of them were about waist high straight onto tile landing a different way each time. The combination hard plastic / TPU case I bought from china somewhere held up like a champ. No scratches, no dings.... nothing. Phone looks like the day I got it. It's not perfect, but it has done the job. I can guarantee that I would have had some type of regretable damage if it were not for the case that one day.
Only 2 gripes with the case:
1) The clear plastic hard part that covers most of the case scratches easily, so I have those circular swirls that you see all over black cars that are washed with crap towels.
2) The white part that runs around the edges like a bumper stains easily and has a slight blue tint due to my jeans.
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This is the case I had for my S2 and now have for my Note 2. My S2's was white and as you mentioned it did stain. My Note2's is black so I cannot see the stain lol!
I love it, its grippy on the side and I'm confident if I drop it it will protect is most drop scenarios.
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This is the case I had for my S2 and now have for my Note 2. My S2's was white and as you mentioned it did stain. My Note2's is black so I cannot see the stain lol!
I love it, its grippy on the side and I'm confident if I drop it it will protect is most drop scenarios.
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Might have to get a black one myself

Otterbox Defende worse than commuter?

Otterbox cases are great but has anyone else worried about the defender not offering as much protection on face down falls? think about it the hard plastic is raised higher than the silicon layer so if the phone falls face down the first thing that's going to hit the ground is the plastic pushing down on your screen. Couldn't that shatter it? Also ive had the defender leave small but noticeable scratches towards the top around the speaker and camera hole, this is probably due to dirt and stuff getting under the hard plastic and rubbing against the glass. And don't you guys think a phone wrapped in silicon and then a hard outer shell (commuter) is better than a phone in a hard inner shell and soft outer shell (defender)? and the screen protector with the commuter isn't that bad its not the best but its something. And the otterbox commuter has a nice silicon lip around the screen that's raised and protects the screen just fine. Also for anyone trying to get the commuter just contact otterbox they replaced my defender with a commuter no charge of course it was a warranty replacement due to my defender having issues with the hard plastic shell rubbing against the screen and leaving scratches, but anyways which do you guys think offers better protection?
i have both the commuter and defender case and i would say the defender offers more protection - if i were to drop my phone i would rather it be in the defender case i think it would make out better, i have an extended battery and have taken off the brutal screen protector on the defender so mine wouldn't be as good as the stock case but if you have the regular battery then no question the defender offers better protection
golfinggino said:
i have both the commuter and defender case and i would say the defender offers more protection - if i were to drop my phone i would rather it be in the defender case i think it would make out better, i have an extended battery and have taken off the brutal screen protector on the defender so mine wouldn't be as good as the stock case but if you have the regular battery then no question the defender offers better protection
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yeah i took my screen protector off after a while of owning it and put a zagg on it but now the case doesnt feel as sturdy it creaks sometimes have you noticed anything like that?
i dont think taking off the plastic will cause it to creak - had a zagg protector on yesterday but finally got my x gear glass protector on without any water marks under the screen so i threw the zagg in the garbage - i really dont like zagg - but that shouldn't be a problem
I have the Otterbox defender (modded to fit my extended battery) and I have the zagg sp on my phone instead of the sp the defender came with. I have dropped my beloved phone more times than I care to count (on the icy ground, concrete, floor, etc) and it sometimes landed on its face more often than not. Not even a scratch on the screen. The zagg and defender has been EXCELLENT in protecting my screen. No worries over here.
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Defender if it was up too me.. I tried going back to my commuter but stil dont like how its a slippery backing.. I dropped the phone with defender twice from pocket height an no damage at all.. I used to carry it in my pocket face out an one time i bumped into a metal table an i thought for sure my screen was broken but to my luck it was still perfect. Now i carry it screen facing my thigh. Im the kinda guy that actually enjoys some weight to the note make it feel more of a quality product
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Alex1123 said:
yeah i took my screen protector off [...] but now the case [...] creaks sometimes
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I noticed mine did as well after removing the screen protector. Not a perfect solution (OtterBox should just put a ring in the box for those who either prefer no protector or another one) but I used thin "Post-It" brand adhesive plastic bookmark tabs. I cut narrow strips from that material and stuck them along the edges where the screen protector used to reside, the thickness is just right - no creaking or looseness anymore.
An option to prevent the creaking that I have used is to take an exacto knife and trim out the screen protector, leaving the outline of the protector under the case. You can't see the left over piece of the protector on there with the case on, and it stops the creaking from happening.
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Supcase Water Resistant Case (Rugged)

Just got the Supcase today. It comes with 3 interchangeable back plates. The case looks like a cross between an Otterbox Defender and a Spigen Slim Armor. It comes with a built-in screen protector, but I removed the portion covering the display since I already had a screen protector installed. The top portion of the protector around the front facing camera is still present. It also has plastic protectors over the rear camera, laser auto-focus, and led flash. Similar to the front protector, they're likely easy to remove, but I chose to leave them on.
I mainly got it for the port covers since the G4 will be in dusty environments. The port covers appear to be staying in place fine. However, some people on Amazon have reported that the port covers don't stay in place with their leather-backed G4. The case has a layer of black mesh over both mics and the IR blaster. The earpiece and back speaker are also covered. Audio still comes through fine. In addition, the back buttons are covered, but they remain easy to press. Not easy enough though where you have to worry about accidental presses while in the pocket.
Keep in mind that water resistance is not the same as water proof. This case is not made to be in water. I attached some pics to this post, but more can be seen at the imgur link below.
LG G4 Supcase
Extra Info: This case does seem to work fine with a tempered glass screen protector. Without actually installing the tempered glass and just laying it over the display, the case was able to close fine.
Nice one. Tnx
How is the side grip and do you find the case significantly thicker than other cases? Thanks for the great pictures!
DarkMage619 said:
How is the side grip and do you find the case significantly thicker than other cases? Thanks for the great pictures!
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I would say the side grip is pretty good. The tpu section along the sides has a matte finish.
At the moment, I only have two other cases for the G4. One is the Neo Hybrid and another is a thin clear tpu case. It is definitely thicker than the Neo Hybrid, but I wouldn't consider it too bulky of a case. I can still use the phone fine one-handed with the Supcase installed. I attached a pic below comparing it to the Spigen case.
That looks just like a Otterbox Denfender with some extra features. The back cover's I don't care for changing out but I can see it's a nice added feature to some. I like on the back how it covers up everything nice and close compared to the Denfender like the Camera and everything that is nice. I also see it has like a mesh those parts I might try to do something with my Otterbox like that also seen it on the bottom mic. I work in construction and just hate to to get the G4 trashed, I was able to keep my Note 2 for over 2 years in perfect condition with an Otterbox Defender but did require me cleaning it 1x a week to get the dust build up out around open inputs. I was going to keep my Note 2 and just change Sims in the morning from phone to phone but that's a PIA the Defender Note 2 case is really hard to get off compared to the G4.
Does this case come with or can you buy Belt Clip Holster for it ? I'm waiting on what Zero Lemon Releases for the G4 hopefully sooner than later since I will most likely just get that since it's mostly a Otterbox with extended battery and belt clip.
BDestroyer8418 said:
That looks just like a Otterbox Denfender with some extra features. The back cover's I don't care for changing out but I can see it's a nice added feature to some. I like on the back how it covers up everything nice and close compared to the Denfender like the Camera and everything that is nice. I also see it has like a mesh those parts I might try to do something with my Otterbox like that also seen it on the bottom mic. I work in construction and just hate to to get the G4 trashed, I was able to keep my Note 2 for over 2 years in perfect condition with an Otterbox Defender but did require me cleaning it 1x a week to get the dust build up out around open inputs. I was going to keep my Note 2 and just change Sims in the morning from phone to phone but that's a PIA the Defender Note 2 case is really hard to get off compared to the G4.
Does this case come with or can you buy Belt Clip Holster for it ? I'm waiting on what Zero Lemon Releases for the G4 hopefully sooner than later since I will most likely just get that since it's mostly a Otterbox with extended battery and belt clip.
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Check out my thread on the unicorn beetle supcase. Comes with a holster. May be more inline with what you're looking for.
BDestroyer8418 said:
Does this case come with or can you buy Belt Clip Holster for it ? I'm waiting on what Zero Lemon Releases for the G4 hopefully sooner than later since I will most likely just get that since it's mostly a Otterbox with extended battery and belt clip.
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It doesn't come with a belt clip holster and I'm not sure about compatibility with other holsters. The other Supcase Mike mentions does come with a belt clip so you could check that one out. It may not provide as good protection from dust as the case I reviewed, but it's still certainly rugged.
I contacted them they said they don't sell the Holster on it own and the holster is just for the Beetle case.
BrunoSlivar said:
Nice one. Tnx
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Here it is with the tempered glass fully installed. Case still closes fine :good:
Just wanted to say I picked this case up along with the Beetle Case that has the belt clip. The Water Resistant Case does indeed work the the Beetle belt clip it is a snug fit but it does lock down with the screen side facing in just like the Beetle. It also locks in good with the Otterbox Defender belt clip when the screen is facing in. It will not lock down with screen out on the Otterbox clip but it would be fine if you were just using the belt clip with the kickstand on a table.
Between the 2 Supcase's not sure which one I liked better will do some testing but at first I would say the Water Resistant Case I could really do without the removable back covers and rather just have something like the Beetle and that would be great. I also see on the Leather back it left 4 little marks on the bottom of the leather back. I would have to take pictures to really show what and why it caused it but it's not a big issue to me you could barley see it and I'm sure a small file would fix the issue. At first the button port cover's did not close all the way too fix that just pull on them a little and they lock in fine. I could see this becoming my daily case for work or atleast when we work outside or in really dusty conditions which is often.
Compared to the Defender it's hard to tell since I've had the Defender since Week 1 and these cases for 1 hour. Hands down the G4 Defender is the best Otterbox case I've had or seen in person. Most my friends don't use cases or they just use a slim case so I'm comparing it to my Note 2 and past phones. The fit and everything for the G4 Defender is good. The Belt clip adds a little more bulk to the overall size compared to the Beetle or Water Resistant case with the belt clips that's because the Otterbox is designed to lock the phone in both ways Face in and Face out. I never really use the belt clip with Face out unless I am using the kickstand to watch a video and 90% or more of the time I'll just hold it or lay it some other way since it's usually to vertical with the clip.
The Beetle is nice as well but I'm not sure if it just my case or if it's from the Leather back but I find the rubber shell not locking in really tight on the right side if I were to just run my finger off the side of the case it would come undone like you were trying to remove the case. Also it doesn't have that little cutout on the bottom right corner like the Water R case I found that a nice feature to remove the case. I will try again without the back to see if it helps at all. I still haven't removed the Plastic Screen protectors on these 2 cases so that might help since I already have a temper glass one on.
If I was looking right now and didn't already have the Defender then both of the Supcase's are great for similar feature's and slightly less bulk if you use a belt clip . I always use the belt clip to help protect the screen I just clip it on my pocket of my pants. Since you can get both of them for cheaper then just the Defender case it wouldn't be bad idea to get both. I also seen a few eBay sellers that had the Water R case with Free ship for about $12 were I got mine alot better than Amazon price.
I will for sure keep the Water R case but will have to decide on the Beetle in a few days. If anything I will be keeping it just for the Belt clip if I don't really like it unless Supcase will sell one or fine one for cheap but hate to keep it for the belt clip only when I bought it for $19 and the Water R case only for $12.50 even together less than $32 is not a bad deal at all. Just hate having collection of case's sitting around since I will most likely be getting a Extended Battery to use at times as well.
fast update - the beetle does fit the correct way without the leather back I will try some more with the leather back to see if it might just stretch a little over time.
Also Wireless charging working fine with all 3 case's.
Although this looks so tempting, unfortunately I am too worried to use such cases. Especially after my Water resistant Z1 got water damage! and that phone was sealed!
emiratesson said:
Although this looks so tempting, unfortunately I am too worried to use such cases. Especially after my Water resistant Z1 got water damage! and that phone was sealed!
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Not sure about that phone but this case is really just meant for splashes of water. Basically any case that cover's the port's would be the same but this one covers up your camera lens so should help to take a little more water than other Water R case's but they should never be submerged in water .
I did find 1 issue with the case on taking pictures with a flash atleast Indoor's in low light haven't tried it elsewhere. If taking a picture in landscape with the top of the phone on left hand the bottom left corner and top right a little has a shadow to the picture's like the flash doesn't get all the way through or something hard to explain. In portrait it I did not see it happening. Also with No flash it did not happened in either mode.
il buono said:
Here it is with the tempered glass fully installed. Case still closes fine :good:
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Can you please tell me which tempered glass screen cover you have on your LG G4? Thank you.
emiratesson said:
Although this looks so tempting, unfortunately I am too worried to use such cases. Especially after my Water resistant Z1 got water damage! and that phone was sealed!
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As I mentioned in the OP, water resistant is not the same was a water proof case. This case is not meant to be in water. As mentioned by @BDestroyer8418, this case just protects from splashes.
dgator said:
Can you please tell me which tempered glass screen cover you have on your LG G4? Thank you.
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It's the Yootech tempered glass
il buono said:
As I mentioned in the OP, water resistant is not the same was a water proof case. This case is not meant to be in water. As mentioned by @BDestroyer8418, this case just protects from splashes.
It's the Yootech tempered glass
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are you a reviewer that have the right to have thing to review for free ?
I have this case and the other supacase with the holster this case also fits the holster as well and clips in securely.
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Someone use some waterproof case with this case?
My G4 powered by Supcase with Nillkin tempered glass
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Miketoberfest said:
Check out my thread on the unicorn beetle supcase. Comes with a holster. May be more inline with what you're looking for.
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I have both cases and can confirm it small snugly into the holster it's a perfect fit
BDestroyer8418 said:
That looks just like a Otterbox Denfender with some extra features. The back cover's I don't care for changing out but I can see it's a nice added feature to some. I like on the back how it covers up everything nice and close compared to the Denfender like the Camera and everything that is nice. I also see it has like a mesh those parts I might try to do something with my Otterbox like that also seen it on the bottom mic. I work in construction and just hate to to get the G4 trashed, I was able to keep my Note 2 for over 2 years in perfect condition with an Otterbox Defender but did require me cleaning it 1x a week to get the dust build up out around open inputs. I was going to keep my Note 2 and just change Sims in the morning from phone to phone but that's a PIA the Defender Note 2 case is really hard to get off compared to the G4.
Does this case come with or can you buy Belt Clip Holster for it ? I'm waiting on what Zero Lemon Releases for the G4 hopefully sooner than later since I will most likely just get that since it's mostly a Otterbox with extended battery and belt clip.
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If i take the screen protector will it lessen thw case's watsr resistance?

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