Generic USB dock for Dex - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Accessories

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073XC4BBM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I just received this yesterday and here are my thoughts. I have not used the official dex dock. Only this adapter.
1. Docking is slow. It takes 5-10 seconds to notice it before the screen goes dark. The Dex splash screen comes up on the HDMI display and another 10-20 seconds goes by before you can interact with it.
2. Power though the usb-c jack seems to only work after the Note is docked. If I dock with power connected, it doesn't charge. This works with the OEM USB-c cable and Samsung Fast Adaptive Charger, and an OEM Google Pixel Cable. It did not work with a micro-to-c adapter.
3. The USB host jack is colored blue, so I presume it will work with USB 3.1 speeds. I am able to use a Keyboard and mouse connected to a USB 1.1 hub.

Once it's docked, is there any lag for the DEX UI? Is everything pretty fluid?
How hot does it get while charging under a load?
I'm looking at getting this exact one so any and all input is appreciated. I'd love to get the real DEX since it has multiple USB ports and ethernet, but for the price I won't mind using a hub lol
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

pyraxiate said:
Once it's docked, is there any lag for the DEX UI? Is everything pretty fluid?
How hot does it get while charging under a load?
I'm looking at getting this exact one so any and all input is appreciated. I'd love to get the real DEX since it has multiple USB ports and ethernet, but for the price I won't mind using a hub lol
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Once it's loaded, there is no perceived lag. It's pretty fluid, I think. It doesn't seem to get any warmer than a regular charge..
Twice it didn't initiate right and the screen flickered. However I un plugged and re plugged in and it was fine afterwards. The other time, the screen flicker stopped on its own.
I think the hardest part is getting use to the approximate 20 secondsl docking. It takes the same amount of time to come back to normal from un docking.
I haven't tested a USB 3 Ethernet dongle in Dex yet. However did test a tendnet USB 3.0 gig dongle in regular mode with the included Otg adaptor. Model TU3-ETG.
The one Samsung includes for moving old phone data.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

thesavo said:
Docking is slow. It takes 5-10 seconds to notice it before the screen goes dark. The Dex splash screen comes up on the HDMI display and another 10-20 seconds goes by before you can interact with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I own a DeX station and definitely should not take longer than 10 seconds to be fully up and running once it's plugged into the dock.

EP2008 said:
I own a DeX station and definitely should not take longer than 10 seconds to be fully up and running once it's plugged into the dock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll time it up again. It's possible that the official one is just faster.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

thesavo said:
I'll time it up again. It's possible that they official one is just faster.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it is, I wonder why. There's no CPU or anything in there, right?
Sent from my SM-N950W using Tapatalk

EP2008 said:
If it is, I wonder why. There's no CPU or anything in there, right?
Sent from my SM-N950W using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Certainly not in the generic adapter.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Related

EZO Power Dock (EZCR30)

Got this dock off of ebay (had a bit of money in paypal I want to use from selling my S2). Dock is decent, it doesn't have that great of a support for the device meaning it can still wobble a bit.
Another thing that has me worried is the 500mAh output stamped on the base. I know the Note 2 has higher output usb charger, haven't brought it home yet but will see if it affects.
Photos attached
It'll probably just charge rather slow
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
Gahh Its Lee said:
It'll probably just charge rather slow
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that's all. It will work. The OEM charger has several charging rates too, the lowest being 300mA. So this one will work the lower amperage just affects the speed of charging. There is a slight possibility of not charging the device while the device is in use with a lot of juice being pulled by the phone. But you'll probably be ok.

HDMI Cable

Will any Mini HDMI to HDMI cable work for the Nexus 10? What I mean is, are there different ones, the part you plug into the Nexus, I know there are like tons of different usb connections.
I want to play content on a TV. I found a nice cheap $7.99 cable from Walmart, but don't know if it will do what I want?
bmancell said:
Will any Mini HDMI to HDMI cable work for the Nexus 10? What I mean is, are there different ones, the part you plug into the Nexus, I know there are like tons of different usb connections.
I want to play content on a TV. I found a nice cheap $7.99 cable from Walmart, but don't know if it will do what I want?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is microHDMI. I bought this one from Monoprice for $7.50 and it outputs both audio and video just fine.
So Mini would be a different one then?
Alright, are there USB to HDMI cables available? Does that do everything, any benefits?
You need a micro hdmi cable for your nexus 10... There are micro Usb to hdmi cables but they are for phones/tabs that use MHL... The nexus 10 has a dedicated hdmi port
The the micro hdmi port type D?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
angelbesideu said:
The the micro hdmi port type D?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes it is a type D (Micro)
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
tysj said:
It is microHDMI. I bought this one from Monoprice for $7.50 and it outputs both audio and video just fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ordered one of these. I tried another cable from another supplier and it was very flakey! Monoprice rocks!:good:
Hey guys.
So I bought one of these, only a 3 foot one, and it's absolutely wonderful.
Two questions though....
How long of a cable can I have before there becomes a streaming issue?
Also, how can I blank the tablet's screen while having it still continue to stream video content?
My device is rooted and I have Xposed framework installed.
Cheers.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nkahoang.screenstandby
I haven't tested it but it seems to be what you are looking for.
Sent from my Evo 4g LTE
freshlysqueezed said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nkahoang.screenstandby
I haven't tested it but it seems to be what you are looking for.
Sent from my Evo 4g LTE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there perhaps another method?
The reviews for that application are somewhat intimidating.
WTF! This g-d [email protected] thing ruined my tablet. I installed it, then it went to screen off mode, which disabled my HDMI out too. So I couldn't see anything, so I turned it off and back on, and when it came back ... it was all reset to factory! everything is gone! Piece of crap
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would definitely do a backup before installing then.
Sent from my Evo 4g LTE
freshlysqueezed said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nkahoang.screenstandby
I haven't tested it but it seems to be what you are looking for.
Sent from my Evo 4g LTE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Zippy the Wonderslug said:
Is there perhaps another method?
The reviews for that application are somewhat intimidating.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a micro HDMI I got from amazon and I use this app and works well after you learn how to set it up. Once you install you need to set your screen on regular settings to stay awake, I usually set it to 30 min, so the tablet won't turn the screen of while watching video, then I set the app in the settings to turn off screen with HDMI cable detection, then if you need to wake the screen after is off and you're watching something, it has a shake to wake feature, just shake the tab and will wake the screen up.
I have had it wake the screen up before while watching a vid but not often.
RoloRacer on PA 4.3 Nexus 10

HDMI MHL Adapter.

Hey guys.
I ordered this cord about 2 weeks ago now.
I got it in the mail today, thinking it wasn't going to work.
It was only $7 so I thought, ehh whatever
I plugged all of the cords (HDMI, Power and Charger port).
Whattya know, my phone screen is now on my television.
I already watched a movie on my television, ported full 1080p. No lag whatsoever.
Watched Netflix, no problems, full screen playback working crystal clear.
Just a couple small problems, the USB is very touchy. The screen will stay mirrored, but if you pull back the USB port even a tiny bit, it will lose the picture.
I noticed when i have the phone plugged in, my data signal diminishes significantly. I'm not sure if its because of the cord or just the crappy phone reception in my home.
I know for a fact this CANT be genuine.
I'm actually quite surprised.
For the whopping price if $7, this is a steal.
I will post a video later, don't have a camera at the moment.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=400478343597
Sent from my SPH-L900
I got one off of amazon for fairly cheap as well, but I found the gaming to be pretty laggy so it's been stuffed into a drawer somewhere.
Is this the one with micro-usb charging port on it? If it is,can you charge your phone if you connect charging cable to this MHL adapter while it's connected to Note2/TV? For some reason I thought that it's just like OTG cable where you phone becomes a host and outputs HDMI signal and you can't charge it out. But then I read somewhere you can. So, can you please clear it up if phone can be charged through that micro-usb port on the side (if your adapter has one)?
vectron said:
Is this the one with micro-usb charging port on it? If it is,can you charge your phone if you connect charging cable to this MHL adapter while it's connected to Note2/TV? For some reason I thought that it's just like OTG cable where you phone becomes a host and outputs HDMI signal and you can't charge it out. But then I read somewhere you can. So, can you please clear it up if phone can be charged through that micro-usb port on the side (if your adapter has one)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes.
Your phone charges while plugged in.
On the 2nd photo, I tried to show the usb port.
Power MUST be plugged in to use this.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
Does battery charge actually accumulate in this manner?
willfck4beer said:
Does battery charge actually accumulate in this manner?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd say a little but not too much.
I plugged it into my TV at 100 percent.
I watched a movie that lasted about an hour and a half and when I took it off, it was at 92 percent.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
when you use TV-out you should set display brightness to the lowest setting, and use both an original Samsung charger and an original Samsung usb cable.
many 3rd party chargers and cables can't handle the 1.5-2A the note 2 needs for charging while using TV-out.
I'll try this also. Thanks for the link. Where are you guys getting your authentic Samsung cables and chargers? Samsung directly?
thedicemaster said:
when you use TV-out you should set display brightness to the lowest setting, and use both an original Samsung charger and an original Samsung usb cable.
many 3rd party chargers and cables can't handle the 1.5-2A the note 2 needs for charging while using TV-out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tips
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda premium
here is video showing HML running on MA7. I'm using the generic Monoprice adapter, the 5-11pin adapter, and their ultra slim with RedMere HDMI cable (signal goes one direct only).
It's not that other cable and charges don't work. The phone uses more power to convert the signal for the USB cable. Then the adapter needs power to work, so you're not getting the full 2amps being passed from the charger. On top of that, the USB may not have rating or resistance to pass the 2amps as well. Thus, what may appear as the phone not charging is really the phone battery not depleting as quickly because it's not recieving more power that the GN2 is using.
I've used cheapy cables and other chargers fine to watch videos and what not, and the phone build a charge; just not as quickly as the OEM.
I've used the OEM cable and charger, and still depleted the battery because I was runuing WiFi tether, and HML. The best I was able to do, reduce the depletion to 10% an hour.
I recommend this to save battery life. It requires root but lets you turn the screen off.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nkahoang.screenstandby#
I bought the OEM MHL to HDMI cable and it stopped working after a couple of uses. And I only use the OEM charger with the cable
I tried swapping out the HDMI cable, but that didn't make any difference. Picture would not go to the TV. Is there a setting that I'm missing on the device for TV out?
I assumed the cable was defective and bought a cheap one from monoprice, but same story there, it does not work either.
no special setting. Probably a driver got borked in the phone. You may want to reflash or do a factory reset assuming you've switch cables, adapter and tried a different TV.
I bought a similar one from another seller but the pin is quite long and doesnt go in completely. Is it the same in your case?
And no im not getting anything on my hdtv :/
I have a Samsung MHL adapter that I bought to use with my OG Evo or Evo 3D, don't remember which one. I've had it for years now, and it still works great! I wish that Samsung would make something like HTC did with their Media Link HD. I still use my Evo LTE and Media Link HD to watch my TV shows on Droid TV PrimeTime. That's an awesome app that only costs $9 every 3 months. It doesn't have movies, just TV shows. It has shows from their current series though, and will record shows (from the series you've selected) just 12 hours after it airs! I only use Netflix for watching older series of shows and movies.
SwiftKey'ed from my White Sprint Note 2 using XDA Premium

Slow USB charging?

Anyone notice this? It actually loses charge, faster than it can charge. Using same computer ports as when I had my note 3.
Use the wall plug. A computer does not put out enough
NOTE 4
Using any 2 amp charger I find it charges surprisingly fast. Computer ports usually give you only .5 amps. If you were using a USB 3.0 port and cable with the Note 3 you might have been getting much more juice out of the same port.
Yeah, my computer has USB 2.0 and 3.0. Like I mentioned earlier, my note 3 didn't have any issue. Strange.
barfingmonkey said:
Yeah, my computer has USB 2.0 and 3.0. Like I mentioned earlier, my note 3 didn't have any issue. Strange.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You probably had a fast charge enabled kernel .
NOTE 4
Running stock.
Try using the app galaxy charging current to see what it's charging at and if it is the same for both phones.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk
I noticed this as well and it's a big problem for me as I use the GPS on the phone a lot while driving. I have it plugged into the car's USB but the battery drains very fast.
bluehaze911 said:
I noticed this as well and it's a big problem for me as I use the GPS on the phone a lot while driving. I have it plugged into the car's USB but the battery drains very fast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gps and navigation software use a lot processing power and the screen stays on all the time, so shouldn't be a surprise that battery goes down fast. In order to keep up with discharging rate you need 2A or more battery charger usb port is not sufficient.
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Free mobile app
darekz said:
Gps and navigation software use a lot processing power and the screen stays on all the time, so shouldn't be a surprise that battery goes down fast. In order to keep up with discharging rate you need 2A or more battery charger usb port is not sufficient.
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the info. I was surprised by this because it never was an issue on my Win mobile phones or iphones. I bought a Qi wireless charger that uses the lighter for power and it seems to be able to keep the phone charged while in use.

USB-C limited to USB 2.0 transfer speeds?

I have tried 'A1 SD Bench' to test my Note 8 with a 512GB Samsung T3 SSD.
The best results I can get is:
Read: 33.42MB/s
Write: 35.57MB/s
I have tried the following connections:
- Direct USB-C to USB-C
- Note 8 <-> USB-C all-in-one hub <-> USB-A to USB-C cable <-> Samsung T3 SSD
- Note 8 <-> Original Samsung USB-C to USB-A female <-> USB-A to USB-C cable <-> Samsung T3 SSD
Any ideas how to get full USB 3.1 transfer speeds?
From what I understand, I might be wrong, but I read that the USB type c port on the Note 8 is USB 2.0
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
jcip17 said:
From what I understand, I might be wrong, but I read that the USB type c port on the Note 8 is USB 2.0
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's actually USB 3.1, you're probably thinking of the fast charge version which is vs 2.0
louforgiveno said:
It's actually USB 3.1, you're probably thinking of the fast charge version which is vs 2.0
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey Lou! Ok thanks for the correction! The phone charges pretty slow compared to our note 4... That's one of my big gripes
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
jcip17 said:
Hey Lou! Ok thanks for the correction! The phone charges pretty slow compared to our note 4... That's one of my big gripes
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It charges slow but it's very consistent at temperature management. The device does not heat up like the ones using other fast charge technologies. I just read a comparison article and Samsung's version is definitely not the fastest, but it's definitely one of the cooler ones.
Fast Charge Comparison
odesskiy said:
It charges slow but it's very consistent at temperature management. The device does not heat up like the ones using other fast charge technologies. I just read a comparison article and Samsung's version is definitely not the fastest, but it's definitely one of the cooler ones.
Fast Charge Comparison
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I* skimmed through that but Samsung fast charge is exynos correct?
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
IIRC from another thread, the USB-C cable that comes in the box is a USB 2.0 cable. Maybe try a different one?
jcip17 said:
Hey Lou! Ok thanks for the correction! The phone charges pretty slow compared to our note 4... That's one of my big gripes
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh no, that's terrible!! Cause my note 7 is the fastest charging phone I've ever had and to hear it's slower than the note 4 damn....note 7 charge from 15% to full in about 35-45 minutes....maybe less never timed it but love how i can forget to charge overnight, wake up plug in and its done by the time I'm out of the shower......ugh
louforgiveno said:
Oh no, that's terrible!! Cause my note 7 is the fastest charging phone I've ever had and to hear it's slower than the note 4 damn....note 7 charge from 15% to full in about 35-45 minutes....maybe less never timed it but love how i can forget to charge overnight, wake up plug in and its done by the time I'm out of the shower......ugh
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope my phone is defective lol. Can anybody relate? It's about 200 mAh bigger than the note 4's removable battery so maybe that's the increase in time? I feel like any percentage I plug in it's 1hr and change until full, even at 40%*
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
Huh? I am confused, I find my Note 8 charges faster than any phone I have ever had and that includes the Note 7, really I can go from about 20% to 100% in about 20 minutes or less.
cmwade77 said:
Huh? I am confused, I find my Note 8 charges faster than any phone I have ever had and that includes the Note 7, really I can go from about 20% to 100% in about 20 minutes or less.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The OP isn't asking about charging speed, he's asking about data transfer over USB.
I have USB 3.0 and 3.1 type A ports on my desktop PC and using a 3.1 Type C to Type A cable it's very clearly much faster than using the cable in the box, which does appear to be usb 2.0 wired.
cmwade77 said:
Huh? I am confused, I find my Note 8 charges faster than any phone I have ever had and that includes the Note 7, really I can go from about 20% to 100% in about 20 minutes or less.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wtf my phone is broke
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
jcip17 said:
Wtf my phone is broke
Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To be clear you'll only recognize the "fast charge" with screen off. Always on display is fine though.
louforgiveno said:
To be clear you'll only recognize the "fast charge" with screen off. Always on display is fine though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I rarely use my phone when it is charging. I use pushbullet on my computers so I wont miss a text or call. I compare the charging speeds of Note 8 to the Note 4 in the morning charging. The Note 8 will not be charged in an hour whereas the Note 4 easily did it. Sorry OP. I'm done.
That brings the question: how do you tell which cable is really wired for USB 3? And what's the difference? Wires have to be the same, is it just shielding? I would imagine due to higher frequency, if signal is not clear it would negotiate lower transfer rate?
I have couple USB wires from Note 7, maybe those are better made?
And is the phone really capable of accepting data anywhere near full USB 3 speeds?
pete4k said:
That brings the question: how do you tell which cable is really wired for USB 3? And what's the difference? Wires have to be the same, is it just shielding? I would imagine due to higher frequency, if signal is not clear it would negotiate lower transfer rate?
I have couple USB wires from Note 7, maybe those are better made?
And is the phone really capable of accepting data anywhere near full USB 3 speeds?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Quality cables have the correct USB symble by USB type. Quick Google search will bring up examples
Sent from my SM-N950U using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Beandip-Javier said:
Quality cables have the correct USB symble by USB type. Quick Google search will bring up examples
Sent from my SM-N950U using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One example. There's more examples if you search. Best to also buy from a reputable source.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
I found an article that states USB-C hubs downgrading speeds to USB 2.0 so I guess thats one of the main reasons the DEX is also limited to 2.0 speeds.
https://gtrusted.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-seems-to-downgrade-usb-3-1-hubs-speeds
I however cannot get USB 3.1 speeds even when using a direct USB-C to USB-C link.
If the Note 8 is not capable of utilizing the full speed of USB 3.1 speeds then I'm quite disappointed.
One of things I really wanted to do was backup DSLR pics from SD cards to SSD rapidly without a laptop whilst on travel.
Are you using a 3.1 capable cable?
Sent from my SM-N950U using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Beandip-Javier said:
Are you using a 3.1 capable cable?
Sent from my SM-N950U using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It turns out the USB-C to USB-C cable I got is not usb-3.1 spec:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/B06Y4N4K9Z
The USB-C to USB-A cable I got that came with the Samsung T3 SSD is definitely USB3.1 spec so Samsung USB-C to USB-A female adapter is probably USB2.0 speeds.
And according to the article going through a hub also limits the connection to USB2.0 so I'll either need a new USB-C to USB-C 3.0 cable or USB-C to USB-A 3.0 female adapter to do further testing.

Categories

Resources