Hi folks..
I've been having some problems with my 1 yr plus Tytn II...
Intermittently it will have no network issue. Once I go Comms Panel and OFF and ON the phone, network is fine.
But this will happen a few times, no matter if I'm outside the house or at home and
it will happen even if I leave it alone.
Also at times after a soft reset, it will says no SIM card detected.
I've tried to clean the SIM card with those rubber eraser, inserting a piece of paper on the back side of the SIM card, to no avail.
If I'm lucky it detects the SIM card.
I've tried using my sister's spare SIM card, same problems.
Any1 encountered before?
If repaired, would it cost a bomb? My warranty already over.
Or is it time for me to replace the tytn? *sigh*
I did search for no network, but think mostly it's the 3G networks having problems in some parts of the world.
Mine will intermittently have no network in 3G or not.
Thanks in advance for any inputs.
Check for dust/dirt around the contact area of the SIM and the slot contacts. Press lightly on the silver metal that crosses over the SIM slot to insure it is tight enough to insure good contact with the card.
Hope that helps.
Hi there...
yup I've cleaned and blown the sim card area.
also place a piece of paper behind the sim card.
oriki said:
Hi there...
yup I've cleaned and blown the sim card area.
also place a piece of paper behind the sim card.
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erm why would you place a piece of paper behind the SIM card and why would you clean it with a eraser(should use a cotton rag or your shirt[NOT a washcloth they can scratch it]) by now the SIM shouldn't work in any phone and paper would stop the contact between the SIM and the SIM slot
i had the same problem some time ago...
the way i fixed it was with tape on the back of the sim card..
i know you tried paper but how much paper?
when i first put tape i would put a layer.. then nothing ... then another layer..
then nothing..
i finally got to the point where i almost broke the litle metal thing that hold the sim card in place.. but it finally worked..
i guess just hard presure fixed my phone not reading my sim..
jus my 2 cents
oriki said:
Hi there...
yup I've cleaned and blown the sim card area.
also place a piece of paper behind the sim card.
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I hope you put the paper between the medal strip and the SIM, not under the SIM where the contacts are. If the SIM does not feel snug in the slot, remove the SIM and press down on the matal strip just a bit to tighten it. Also look carefully to see that the SIM is inserted correctly. The cut off corner does not go in first. Look carefully and you will find an illustration on the outside of the cover.
Hope that helps.
souskei said:
when i first put tape i would put a layer.. then nothing ... then another layer..
then nothing..
i finally got to the point where i almost broke the litle metal thing that hold the sim card in place.. but it finally worked..
i guess just hard presure fixed my phone not reading my sim..
jus my 2 cents
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That's good value for money advice! There are posts here that mention about issues with sim connection on Tilt Specific versions of the Kaiser (although there's nothing in the Tilt specific wiki about it). As long as the paper/tape is on the back (non-contact) side and is used to push the sim closer to the contacts, it should help. If there's any chance the o/p can still return it under warranty, then try and do so. Warranties aren't hard and fast and if something fails very close to the end of the warranty period, many companies will still consider repairing it, especially if it's a 'known issue' that's cropped up. If the o/p spends some time doing a seach, I'm sure more details will come up. From what I recall reading, Kaisers other than the Tilt aren't affected and I've certainly had no such problems with my HTC branded device.
Flying Kiwi said:
That's good value for money advice! There are posts here that mention about issues with sim connection on Tilt Specific versions of the Kaiser (although there's nothing in the Tilt specific wiki about it). As long as the paper/tape is on the back (non-contact) side and is used to push the sim closer to the contacts, it should help. If there's any chance the o/p can still return it under warranty, then try and do so. Warranties aren't hard and fast and if something fails very close to the end of the warranty period, many companies will still consider repairing it, especially if it's a 'known issue' that's cropped up. If the o/p spends some time doing a seach, I'm sure more details will come up. From what I recall reading, Kaisers other than the Tilt aren't affected and I've certainly had no such problems with my HTC branded device.
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yup, I did a search and mostly was recommended to use the paper thingy.
will probably call up the HTC service centre and ask how much it would cost to repair it.
I had to lose my tytn haha. now having withdrawal symptoms using a simple nokia hp.
WillardZ said:
I hope you put the paper between the medal strip and the SIM, not under the SIM where the contacts are. If the SIM does not feel snug in the slot, remove the SIM and press down on the matal strip just a bit to tighten it. Also look carefully to see that the SIM is inserted correctly. The cut off corner does not go in first. Look carefully and you will find an illustration on the outside of the cover.
Hope that helps.
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yup... the SIM card orientation is correct and it's tight hehe
souskei said:
i had the same problem some time ago...
the way i fixed it was with tape on the back of the sim card..
i know you tried paper but how much paper?
when i first put tape i would put a layer.. then nothing ... then another layer..
then nothing..
i finally got to the point where i almost broke the litle metal thing that hold the sim card in place.. but it finally worked..
i guess just hard presure fixed my phone not reading my sim..
jus my 2 cents
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will try that... I did put till it was very tight to remove the paper and SIM card..
kaiserII101 said:
erm why would you place a piece of paper behind the SIM card and why would you clean it with a eraser(should use a cotton rag or your shirt[NOT a washcloth they can scratch it]) by now the SIM shouldn't work in any phone and paper would stop the contact between the SIM and the SIM slot
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I figured it might be the SIM contact problem, hence the paper on the sim card.
the sim card is working well with my spare nokia hp though.
thanks all for the tips & infos!
Thank you all very much. This just happened to me and I was able to resolve with the paper behind the sim card. A real life saver since my tilt is now 14 mos old and out of warranty.
I totally forgot abt this thread...
mine was repaired for SGD 150, including the diagnostic fee since it's out of warranty...
No Sim card detected
oriki said:
I totally forgot abt this thread...
mine was repaired for SGD 150, including the diagnostic fee since it's out of warranty...
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I had the same issue with an 18 month Tilt. HTC quote was $124 US as diagnostic fee and over $300 if the board needed replacement. The shim to the back of the card was not working. Bought a new HTC brand SIM card reader from ebay for $24 US including S&H. All is well.
was it easy to DIY?
and I tot repairs here in singapore are expensive hehe
Some rubber erasers contain a small amount of ground pumice, for the sole purpose of scratching the top layer of paper when you use it to correct a mistake (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eraser#Types).. Using a rag or shirt alone will not remove any oxidation from the surface of the contacts, although if they are gold-plated they should be resistant to oxidizing anyway..
I just had the same problem today with my SIM card. So far, paper hasn't helped. (I stuck 3 layers of white adhesive binder label on the back of the SIM, and trimmed around it w/scissors) -- still no luck.
kaiserII101 said:
erm why would you place a piece of paper behind the SIM card and why would you clean it with a eraser(should use a cotton rag or your shirt[NOT a washcloth they can scratch it]) by now the SIM shouldn't work in any phone and paper would stop the contact between the SIM and the SIM slot
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weasel5i2 said:
Using a rag or shirt alone will not remove any oxidation from the surface of the contacts, although if they are gold-plated they should be resistant to oxidizing anyway..
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Exactly so I think rather than using a potentially abrasive eraser, it'd be best to use a specialist contact cleaner (designed just for such things) applied to a cotton bud and rubbed against the sim holder contacts and then the sim itself. It seems to me that as long as the contacting surface is spotlessly clean then packing the SIM closer to the contacts with pieces of paper behind it, shouldn't be necessary (even though it may help). A small aerosol can of contact cleaner is cheap enough and it can also be used for battery contact cleaning every few months (something it pays to do with a TyTN II in my experience).
Touch wood, my phone is still going strong as far as the sim connectivity is concerned but then its probably only ever endured 20 or so sim removals and refitments in its whole existance - maybe those experiencing problems are predominantly frequent sim removers or changers?
The Fix- its the simm cover microswitch
I may be that the reason many are getting different results, is that your tackling the wrong area of the ph as the problem. I just fixed my TYTN ll using this solution by Tilt Fanatic -Fix for No Sim Detection Problem!-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11199595#post11199595
He figured out that its source is the simm cover latch and the micoswitch that it catches on underneath. Over time this ability to catch onto microswitch, degrades so "the problem is that the outside switch is not fully catching the inside one, which is why the sim isn't being detected". Thus for many people the constant insert and closing of the simm cover inadvertantly fixes the problem. Not the deoxidizing or cleaning contacts with a rubber etc. Try it. Use something to press the inner mico switch hard up while turning on the phone. It was an instant fix for my ph, showing it was the correct source of the problem of "no simm card present". Thanks to Tilt Fanatic correctly identifying it.
I have had an 8gb N7 for about two weeks and only had very little screen lift. Loved it with the 4.1.2 os so much that I just bought a 32gb also and gave the 8gb to my wife.
The 32gb had huge screen lift and the bezel was bowed out on three left side enough to put a finger nail in between the glass and bezel. All else was good.
I decided to open it up and I verified that the two screws are missing. The 8gb however had the screws. So I transferred the screws from the 8gb to the 32gb. When installing on the 32gb I out pressure on the bezel to correct the outward bow. This FIXED the lifting glass on the 32gb! The thing is perfect now. The 8gb was not noticeably affected by the removal of the screws. I'll give hey long term report to see if the solution holds.
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Strange but glad you found a workable solution.
I've gone through 3 16gb's and 1 32gb (4 total). 2 had screen lift and 2 did not.
My first original 16gb did not (release edition). All screws
My second replacement after I killed the first one, did. All screws. Washer Fix. Stolen.
My replacement had bad screen lift and 2 missing screws.
Swapped for 32gb. Missing screws and no screen lift.
Weird.
Hi All,
So my wife smashed her screen on the HTC one. (aussie optus version)
I ordered a new screen/front housing to replace it.: etradesupply.com/oem-htc-one-lcd-screen-and-digitizer-assembly-with-front-housing.html
Followed some good tutorials and teardowns and managed to get it apart without any damage :good:
I put the internals and front screen back together and it all worked fine apart from the sim card, it couldn't be read/detected! :crying:
After checking all my connections, trying tape on the back of the sim card, I tested the sim reader out of the original housing. the thing works!
youtu.be/4Iy-f3aQOUA
Now anyone who has pulled these apart knows that you cant get to the sim reader without seperating the screen from the front housing. i'm not keen to do that unless I have to.
So do I have a dud sim card reader?
Do etrades sim card readers require their own sim tray to work correctly? (using original sim tray)
Has anyone else experienced this or have any suggestions?
It's alright.
I bit the bullet and pulled the front screen off with a bit of heat and a suction cap, and replaced the sim reader.
it went back together perfectly.
result = happy wife
synap5e said:
It's alright.
I bit the bullet and pulled the front screen off with a bit of heat and a suction cap, and replaced the sim reader.
it went back together perfectly.
result = happy wife
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Wow, neat..! Can you post links to the tutorials you followed? And a little more close up pics?
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n1234d said:
Wow, neat..! Can you post links to the tutorials you followed? And a little more close up pics?
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
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no problems
I found this guys video;s the best:
youtu.be/qZFAsgjCunc
youtu.be/S5KNmDeJ4Ww
youtube.com/watch?v=GNc-_UpM8Is&feature=share&list=UUfHl7Qc9Bb84qxMIU2WMq1g&index=2
youtu.be/lDHnHjjfNAg
ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+Teardown/13494
The suction cap method was perfect with a bit of heat for neatly removing the screen to get to the sim card reader afterwards..
synap5e said:
no problems
I found this guys video;s the best:
youtu.be/qZFAsgjCunc
youtu.be/S5KNmDeJ4Ww
youtube.com/watch?v=GNc-_UpM8Is&feature=share&list=UUfHl7Qc9Bb84qxMIU2WMq1g&index=2
youtu.be/lDHnHjjfNAg
ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+Teardown/13494
The suction cap method was perfect with a bit of heat for neatly removing the screen to get to the sim card reader afterwards..
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Nice! A few pics too please? I wanna see how close to unibody this phone is after reassembly
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I pocked it with the sim card tool should I be worried?
lostrg said:
I pocked it with the sim card tool should I be worried?
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If you poked it in too far then, yes, you have a problem. That is the top mic and if you did poke far enough in the hole it could have damaged the mic while also making the phone less water resistant.
I just now tried to take my SIM card out and realized I put the pin into the hole that is next to the SIM card holder by accident. I pushed hard enough to recognize that it wasn't the correct hole.
I made a voice recording after I did this and it seemed to record my voice correctly.
Has anyone else done this with or without damage to the device? It felt a little rubbery when I put the pin in , as if I was trying to puncture rubber
ughhhhhh
Do not worry. the microphone is to the side of the hole. So no damage is done. Rest easy.
blogslogger said:
Do not worry. the microphone is to the side of the hole. So no damage is done. Rest easy.
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That's awesome - when I read an article about concerns for the microphone hole being positioned next tot he sim hole I kinda freaked out , even though it appeared to work ok. These things ain't cheap -- lol
jcrompton said:
That's awesome - when I read an article about concerns for the microphone hole being positioned next tot he sim hole I kinda freaked out , even though it appeared to work ok. These things ain't cheap -- lol
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It's not hard to do. Samsung should just combine them and make a dual purpose hole
Literally did the exact same thing yesterday when my phone arrived and felt sick at the thought of what mystery hole I was poking
ephumuris said:
Literally did the exact same thing yesterday when my phone arrived and felt sick at the thought of what mystery hole I was poking
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Why doesn't Samsung have an audible "wrong hole" warning message?
Did the same thing on my note 10+ when it was brand new. To make matters worse you actually need to apply a fair amount of force to the right hole for it to open