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[Q] From HTC One x to Moto G?

Hi,
I am currently using HTC One X (with CM 11) as my daily driver and looking to upgrade my device. One of the devices that I am considering is the Moto G 2014. When I compared the specs, it does not appear to be much of an upgrade as both devices seem more or less comparable with biggest differences in the processor (One X: dual core vs. Moto G: quad core) and LTE support (One X: supports LTE vs. Moto G: no LTE support). If there is anyone who is familiar with the performance/user experience of both devices, I would appreciate it if you can share your thoughts. I am especially interested to hear from those out there who have made the same move I am considering.
Cheers,
Magnity

I made a similar transition after my HTC One XL (evita) gave out (buttons failed, screen cracked). I was holding out for the Nexus 6 until it was confirm to be massive and expensive. I agree with your assessment that XL --> Moto G 2014 is not much of a step up in terms of hardware. However, the Moto G 2014 is running KitKat, virtually stock, (I was running altered stock 4.2 on XL) and will get 5.0 upgrade. Somewhat of a lateral move, however, I paid $180 outright for my phone and drop the subsidy cost associated with a contract of ~15 dollars/month when I had the XL.

@YertletheTurtle Thanks for the reply. In terms of performance while in use, do you feel that the Moto G is an improvement? From what I have seen on the web, it seems that the Moto G is actually a downgrade if you'er looking at benchmarks here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKLTNYY1HDw
But I know benchmarks do not necessarily translate to better performance while in use.
I have had my HTC One X (mine is the XL-Evita model as well) since it came out and it is working just fine *knock on wood*. I have been able to breath some new live(s) into it using custom ROMs (mainly CM, because I enjoy the close-to-stock android experience). But since developers' support for the XL-Evita has not been as vibrant as it used to be (the fate of all older phones), I am looking to get a new device that will continue to receive newer versions of android (from OEMs and/or developers). However, I also want this new device to feel like it is an upgrade, performance wise, to justify the cost (180 Eur in the Moto G case).
Cheers,
Magnity

In my use (phone calls, browsing web, pictures), I do not think that it is a step up in terms of performance from the HTC One XL. I think that it is on par with that device. My experience with the phone is similar to others on this forum (browser stutters a bit, poweramp stutters occasionally). Perhaps with optimized/enhanced kernels, this will improve. In summary, my advice is not to expect improvements going from HTC One XL.

Many thanks for the feedback.
Cheers,
Magnity

Porting moto Assist to N6

Hey guys. Total XDA noob here.
I got my n6 came from the 2013 motox.
I love the n6 but there's one thing I miss bad enough to consider going back to the x.
Moto assist.
So this is a request/challenge. Can anyone help me get the apk for moto assist up and running on my N6?
And I'm decent for a noob with side loading and what not.

ncraigtrn said:
Hey guys. Total XDA noob here.
I got my n6 came from the 2013 motox.
I love the n6 but there's one thing I miss bad enough to consider going back to the x.
Moto assist.
So this is a request/challenge. Can anyone help me get the apk for moto assist up and running on my N6?
And I'm decent for a noob with side loading and what not.
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I second this. As it would be awesome.

Moto assist is nice but I really miss Moto display...ambient display is terrible. Is there any precedence for porting an oem software to a non supported device?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764635
Try this thread and report back.

wytecaztle said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764635
Try this thread and report back.
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I actually tried that yesterday, Assist installs just fine but when launched it displays an "Unsupported device" message. Modality won't even install. My Nexus 6 isn't rooted though so I didn't try modifying the build.prop but setting it to a 2014 Moto X might do the trick.

Maybe all it takes is a simple build.prop edit to make the app believe it's a 2014 X?

Can anyone walk me through setting the build.prop to a motox 2014? Or would that cause me to lose other functionality in other apps?

The moto assist app works on a partition of its dual core processor. I don't think it is as simple as changing a build.prop.

What part of assist do you want? If it's the voice texting while driving try the Agent App. It's a pretty good replacement for the driving portion of moto assist.

Anyone try the APKs from the Droid Turbo system dump? Since they're practically identical wrt specs & resolution, I'd expect those files to work with the N6... except Lollipop isn't out yet on that platform...

biggiestuff said:
What part of assist do you want? If it's the voice texting while driving try the Agent App. It's a pretty good replacement for the driving portion of moto assist.
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Pretty much just the driving portion

ncraigtrn said:
Pretty much just the driving portion
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Yeah then try agent. You'll have to configure it initially because its set to auto reply to texts while driving. It reads your texts to you and asks if you want to reply in basically the same way. It detects your driving when connected to specific Bluetooth devices. It has motion detection but it is in beta but I never tested it since I preferred to activate when connected to Bluetooth.

I've been thinking a lot about this. Truthfully the whole voice command/response with the moto x was a far better experience. What are the chances of a custom ROM that incorporates the moto x features? I don't know what I'm gonna do without those features

Good point. I just bought a 2013 Moto X to see what the world knows about Moto phones that I did not. I got the DE edition for $229, great price.
I'm really liking the hands free aspect of the Moto apps. I was psyched to buy the N6, but it's lack of the Moto apps has me hesitating. I really miss Qi charging & believe it was a misstep to not include it on either Moto. Cool to see the new Druid, but is on Verizon only. Be very cool if these apps or a rom could be developed to incorporate these features. In the meantime, I'm biding time with the Moto X until there's N6 stock or a similar Moto phone to the Droid that will work with AT&T.

sailindawg said:
Good point. I just bought a 2013 Moto X to see what the world knows about Moto phones that I did not. I got the DE edition for $229, great price.
I'm really liking the hands free aspect of the Moto apps. I was psyched to buy the N6, but it's lack of the Moto apps has me hesitating. I really miss Qi charging & believe it was a misstep to not include it on either Moto. Cool to see the new Druid, but is on Verizon only. Be very cool if these apps or a rom could be developed to incorporate these features. In the meantime, I'm biding time with the Moto X until there's N6 stock or a similar Moto phone to the Droid that will work with AT&T.
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Yea I'm missing my x but the n6 is a better device overall. We'll see what happens over the next couple weeks with development. I'd pay to have the x's feature set though.

I'd really like to get Moto Display ported as well... Don't like the play store alternatives.

was anyone successfully able to get moto assist to work with the N6?

Moto X Pro will bring some hope
As motorola is launching Moto X Pro there is a hope that Nexus 6 can get moto Assist, as both share same configuration. :good:

AkumaZeto said:
was anyone successfully able to get moto assist to work with the N6?
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Not yet, but possibly soon

Ah those features would be pretty nice on the N6
They come in handy, its a nice suite of features. I look forward to this as well.

[Q] Moto X Port

Given the hardware and capabilities of this phone, does anyone know how difficult it may or may not be to create a ROM that ports the features of the Moto X? I own the original phone, as well as briefly owned the 2014 version. I think the Moto app that lets you configure the features of the phone are much nicer than what Google does stock. As the new X and G already have 5.0, what about a Nexus 6 port? It has an AMOLED display, and the newer X doesn't have all the custom co-processors anymore that required control of the always listening and active display. Is anyone else interested in a port of the X Rom?

It would be easier to port the Moto Maxx's ROM as it is technically equivalent (display size, chipsets, etc.) But 5.0 isn't out for the Maxx yet. I'm also waiting for this to happen, a N6 with Moto Suite would seriously kick ass.

agreed..

I have been trying to get a hold of a Moto X 2014 5.0 /system/ .zip files but no one wants to sent me one to play with.

knitler said:
I have been trying to get a hold of a Moto X 2014 5.0 /system/ .zip files but no one wants to sent me one to play with.
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@knitler - check your PM

Try looking at the Lollipop OTA ZIPs in the Moto X 2014 forums. That would be a start...

General question for users of XT1096 Verizon.

I am in a holding pattern for a new phone as I want to wait for the 820 SoC phones later next year. In the mean time I figure I would get a used phone that can keep me busy. I'm basically looking for something that is stable and with good custom ROM support (as I like to play around). I've narrowed it down to the Moto X 2014 and the LG G3 (verizon versions). I just got Moto G's for my youngsters and I remembered how much I liked the Moto phones. The LG G3 seems to have more official ROM support but I am put off by it's size (5.5) whereas the 5.0-5.2" screens are my sweet spot. I also generally tend to prefer AMOLED screens to IPS.
So my questions is basically how do XT1096 owners feel about their phones and the ROM support? I would particularly like to hear from anyone that has also owned the LG G3.
Thank you

Nnyan said:
I am in a holding pattern for a new phone as I want to wait for the 820 SoC phones later next year. In the mean time I figure I would get a used phone that can keep me busy. I'm basically looking for something that is stable and with good custom ROM support (as I like to play around). I've narrowed it down to the Moto X 2014 and the LG G3 (verizon versions). I just got Moto G's for my youngsters and I remembered how much I liked the Moto phones. The LG G3 seems to have more official ROM support but I am put off by it's size (5.5) whereas the 5.0-5.2" screens are my sweet spot. I also generally tend to prefer AMOLED screens to IPS.
So my questions is basically how do XT1096 owners feel about their phones and the ROM support? I would particularly like to hear from anyone that has also owned the LG G3.
Thank you
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I purchased an used Moto X 2014 XT1096 to replace my original Moto X 2013 Developers Edition. I can't speak for the custom ROM availability for the LG G3 but you can check the two developement sections in the Moto X 2014 forum to see what there are. I know there are a few for the XT1096 but not as many as for the other variants (XT1095/1092/etc.). I am going to try CM13 soon on mine. If you really want to play with ROMs then I would go for one of the more popular phones with better custom ROM support.
I did not answer your questions regarding custom ROMs as I tend to stick with the stock ROM and use other enhancements like Xposed modules or a custom launcher. I also like to use the Moto features which may not be available in other custom ROMs. I do plan to at least try CM13 though.
To be able to install ROMs make sure that you purchase a Moto X 2014 that is already bootloader unlocked. If you can't find one then make sure you purchase one that is on 5.0 or earlier version of the OS. Version 5.1 and later cannot be bootloader unlocked. I purchased mine on SWAPPA.

I bought a used 1096 from eBay 3 weeks ago. Been a Samsung owner all of my Android life, I got tired of Samsung's slow updates. I like this phone, have CM13 on it and runs great. Rooting is a little tricky, used mofo to root and sunshine to bootloader unlock

XT1049 Moto X 1st Gent Will Not Allow System Update

So here's the scenario, I've recently acquired a used Moto X first gen. I've been using a Moto G first gen for many years because I like the small format of these phones, but my old phone is only 8GB whereas this new one, or new to me, is a 16GB. Now I fully understand that with these older phones, their update ability is limited, which is fine, I'm only trying to install the 5.1 Lollipop update, which is currently running my older Moto G first gen from the current 4.4.2 that the Moto X is running. Data and WiFi are fully functioning in every way on the Moto X but no matter what I do, I receive a message when I trying and update the phone reading, Oops! You need a data connection to check for updates. Go to WiFi settings..... etc. It never fails, and I've searched high and low for an answer to this mystery and come up empty handed. Any thoughts or theories would be very welcomed. Cheers

SDG20 said:
So here's the scenario, I've recently acquired a used Moto X first gen. I've been using a Moto G first gen for many years because I like the small format of these phones, but my old phone is only 8GB whereas this new one, or new to me, is a 16GB. Now I fully understand that with these older phones, their update ability is limited, which is fine, I'm only trying to install the 5.1 Lollipop update, which is currently running my older Moto G first gen from the current 4.4.2 that the Moto X is running. Data and WiFi are fully functioning in every way on the Moto X but no matter what I do, I receive a message when I trying and update the phone reading, Oops! You need a data connection to check for updates. Go to WiFi settings..... etc. It never fails, and I've searched high and low for an answer to this mystery and come up empty handed. Any thoughts or theories would be very welcomed. Cheers
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Try LMSA's Flash update option
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/update-moto-lenovo-moto-smart-assistant-t3951714
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