Hi,
I am currently using HTC One X (with CM 11) as my daily driver and looking to upgrade my device. One of the devices that I am considering is the Moto G 2014. When I compared the specs, it does not appear to be much of an upgrade as both devices seem more or less comparable with biggest differences in the processor (One X: dual core vs. Moto G: quad core) and LTE support (One X: supports LTE vs. Moto G: no LTE support). If there is anyone who is familiar with the performance/user experience of both devices, I would appreciate it if you can share your thoughts. I am especially interested to hear from those out there who have made the same move I am considering.
Cheers,
Magnity
I made a similar transition after my HTC One XL (evita) gave out (buttons failed, screen cracked). I was holding out for the Nexus 6 until it was confirm to be massive and expensive. I agree with your assessment that XL --> Moto G 2014 is not much of a step up in terms of hardware. However, the Moto G 2014 is running KitKat, virtually stock, (I was running altered stock 4.2 on XL) and will get 5.0 upgrade. Somewhat of a lateral move, however, I paid $180 outright for my phone and drop the subsidy cost associated with a contract of ~15 dollars/month when I had the XL.
@YertletheTurtle Thanks for the reply. In terms of performance while in use, do you feel that the Moto G is an improvement? From what I have seen on the web, it seems that the Moto G is actually a downgrade if you'er looking at benchmarks here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKLTNYY1HDw
But I know benchmarks do not necessarily translate to better performance while in use.
I have had my HTC One X (mine is the XL-Evita model as well) since it came out and it is working just fine *knock on wood*. I have been able to breath some new live(s) into it using custom ROMs (mainly CM, because I enjoy the close-to-stock android experience). But since developers' support for the XL-Evita has not been as vibrant as it used to be (the fate of all older phones), I am looking to get a new device that will continue to receive newer versions of android (from OEMs and/or developers). However, I also want this new device to feel like it is an upgrade, performance wise, to justify the cost (180 Eur in the Moto G case).
Cheers,
Magnity
In my use (phone calls, browsing web, pictures), I do not think that it is a step up in terms of performance from the HTC One XL. I think that it is on par with that device. My experience with the phone is similar to others on this forum (browser stutters a bit, poweramp stutters occasionally). Perhaps with optimized/enhanced kernels, this will improve. In summary, my advice is not to expect improvements going from HTC One XL.
Many thanks for the feedback.
Cheers,
Magnity
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I own a htc one X+, and I would like to know if Im crazy buying a new moto x (310€ right now here in spain).
I don't need my 64gb storage, don't need FM radio..
I am looking for:
- better battery autonomy. Anyone knows how compares moto x against htc one x+?
- better user experience. No lags..
thanks!
I used to have an American HTC one x (dual core version with the snapdragon s4 pro). Since then I've had a RAZR m, note 2, lg g2, and moto x. The moto x is by far the smoothest of all of them, even without any custom Roms/kernels on the x. As far as battery life, I've been a bit spoiled by the g2 and the zerolemon I had for the note 2. I know a lot of people will tell you the battery is great in the x, but I think it's just OK. That being said, it's definitely better than my old one x, but I know you have the one x plus. Considering the moto x runs a more efficient chip with the same sized battery and screen, I can't imagine it's any worse than the one x+. Just be warned, if you are a flashaholic, don't get the x unless you're ready to be cured...
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hi
I own a htc one X+, and I would like to know if Im crazy buying a new moto x (310€ right now here in spain).
I don't need my 64gb storage, don't need FM radio..
I am looking for:
- better battery autonomy. Anyone knows how compares moto x against htc one x+?
- better user experience. No lags..
thanks!
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Had the HOX+,, love the Moto x better. The Moto has better battery life better camera and it is much faster. HOX+ is not going past jelly bean unless some miracle happens with Htc or someone ports it.
I came from the American One X (One XL), and it was totally worth it. The MotoX feels better, is WAY WAY WAY smoother, no lag at all. Battery is significantly better. Call quality is better. Everything is better.
If you're worried about price, just buy one used on swappa.com (~$200 or so)
Is it safe to say this phone is future proof? I'm in the market for a new smartphone and the X has been at the top of my list(Pure edition). They've already confirmed it will be receiving Lollipop so thats a plus. I know the 801 processor is no slouch, but i'd have to imagine everything moving forward by 2015 should be carrying an 805. Although its still early, the lack of development (based on threads) kind of turns me off. I don't want to solely rely on Moto to push updates to my phone. I'm a flashaholic, so not being able to mess around with the latest drives me nuts lol. Aside from that, the specs on the phone seem great it runs fluid and its a great size. What do you guys think?
I think of this phone like a "Nexus+", its pure stock android with very useful features. Dev doesn't seem like its going to take off any time soon for this phone. By the way people are talking on the forum...we should be one of the first to see Lollipop on our phones so that's a plus for the X.
The only downside I see on this phone is the camera could be better and an SD card slot would be great. I'm sure a future update will take care of the camera issue.
And nothing is future proof.
Motorola phones have been pretty "future proof" as I still have plenty of support for my Razr Maxx HD. If you have an unlocked bootloader (pure edition) then you are good to go. As far as processing power, the phones are much more capable than anything software developers can throw at it. I have a lowly S4 in my Droid Maxx and everything runs smooth. One thing to consider since you are a flashaholic is that the stock rom will be better than any other rom out there since the software that makes a moto x a moto x does not work on other roms, ie. the active display and touchless controls. Of course there are alternatives but they are no where near as polished and well executed. The twist to launch camera feature is so simple I can't believe it is a moto exclusive. Makes you laugh at those other developers and say wtf, such as wtf Samsung, their software is awful, so much so that you can't even be mad at it, just have to laugh. That is the reason why development for the og moto x and droid ultra/Maxx is so slow or in the case of the Maxx, CM dropped it completely. It is not because of poor sales, but because there is a lack of interest. I've flash many ROMs on my razr but I always end up switching back to stock, debloated of course.
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No current phone is future proof...
The last year has seen very little advance in ARM-based phones. That won't be true of the next year. In a year, only low-to-mid range phones will be 32 bit. New chips will be on 20 nm process with better power management. I've ordered a Moto X to be a 2-year phone, but in 2 years, the current technology is going to be quite dated. My hope is more effort is put into power management than processing power for the next generation. I think the X will be updated regularly making it last better than an S5 or G3, but it won't stay current for capabilities a year from now.
I loved my Razr MAXX HD, just like Johnny Wong said, and it can still hold its own ( What I mean is that Moto phones usually have great support for long after they have been released). I don't necessarily think the phone is "future proof" because its hardware will certainly be outdated by next year. But, I do think this phone will be useful for years to come. I get that pretty much means future proof, I just wouldn't exactly use that wording. I have the VZW edition, so I don't have an unlocked bootloader, and I will be upgrading in a year. If you get the pure edition I think you will be set. I agree that this is almost an update to the Nexus 5.
I am coming from the Moto X first generation, with a brief stopover at the Moto X 2nd generation. I found the performance of the 2nd Gen X to be fantastic of course, and am not comparing the G to it, but rather to the 1st Gen Moto X.
I found that the 2nd Gen X caused me wrist pain within a few seconds of using it. After some testing, I found that a 5" phone was about the biggest I could handle. Went back to the 1st Gen X for a month, then my daughter broke her phone and I had to pass my X on to her. Picked up the 2nd Gen G at Best Buy since my Dad raves about it.
After about 48 hours, I am trying to decide whether to return the G, and spend a bit more getting a Nexus 5 or an unlocked Galaxy Alpha, mostly due to performance.
My question, now that I have given the long winded sob story... Is - - Are folks seeing a noticeable performance increase when using a custom optimized ROM, vs stock? Obviously there is always some, but do you feel the device is smooth overall and worth keeping (in reality, not benchmarks) ? Would you keep yours if you had the option to return it for a full refund?
Part of why I went with the G was the Moto apps, which don't really do what I need on the G anyway (chrome extension for connect, drive mode voice replies on assist) so I am open to switching, but would certainly rather keep it if there's a chance it can live up to it's potential.
Performance Improvement on CM12.1
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Are folks seeing a noticeable performance increase when using a custom optimized ROM, vs stock?
Obviously there is always some, but do you feel the device is smooth overall and worth keeping (in reality, not benchmarks) ?
Would you keep yours if you had the option to return it for a full refund?
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Question 1
Yes, a very noticeable improvement on CM12.1 over Motorola Stock 5.02
Question 2
Yes, the device is a lot, lot, lot smoother on CM12.1. I don't play games, so I don't know how it would perform, but I can say that the budget priced Moto G 2014, performs equally if not better than other high priced devices that come with Snapdragons 8xx and 2GB-3GB of RAM, I speak from experience.
Question 3
Yes, I would keep it even in the case of a full refund. As I see it Moto G 2014 has the best value for money. In its cost range I could only find Chinese phones that come with an MTK Soc that has severe problems with GPS, I speak from experience. The GPS on Moto G 2014 "flies", it locks in under 3secs indoors.
It can be smoother than stock if you install a custom ROM + Spirit Kernel.
Right now I'm using Luk's AOSP and Spirit... The only one combo I found to be really better than stock and CM
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So I bought an XT1068 on Jan 2015, for its dual SIM capabilities, the AOSP like firmware, the capability of rooting and the availability of custom ROMs. I have to say I am pretty disappointed and I wouldn't buy it again.
The stock 5.0.2 ROM is unusable for me. Lag is awful when a few apps get installed, Bluetooth audio (that I use when I am at work listening to music) breaks all the time, when Chrome is launched everything else gets killed and I could go on and on.
CM12/CM12.1 did a lot to improve the experience, Bluetooth music works fine, lag is limited (without Chrome) etc. Yet CM had many bugs at the beginning that had to do with core function of the phone such as the screen not lighting up during a phone call and had to reboot, the inability for the call receiver to hear me etc.
Although CM improved the experience by a wide margin that's the CM's team achievement not the manufacturer's.
The device has an inherent flaw, very little RAM that severely curtails multitasking as Google component's and 3rd party apps are getting heavier and heavier.
So if were looking for a dual SIM under 200€ I'd purchased one that meets the following criteria:
• Snapdragon SoC
• 5 inch minimum
• Dual SIM
• Rootable
• 2GB RAM
• A usable Stock ROM
• Availability of custom ROMs (optional)
Since Jan 2015 when Ι purchased Moto G 2014, several Chinese phones came across my hands (Lenovo, Xiaomi, Cubot, Meizu, Doogee) and sort of checked them. Although I didn’t use them myself the people that did said good things about them as far as multitasking is concerned when I played with them they surpassed Moto G 2014 by a distance. The one thing that put me off in January going the "China way" was the MediaTek SoC that have on them with their awful GPS (speaking from experience)
I care but not that much about updates as I care about stability, multitasking, multimedia and navigation.
One great thing I can say about Moto G 2014 is its GPS whether on stock or CM. Always reliable and accurate, even in doors.
Though a year has not passed since I purchased the Moto G 2014, I am sadly looking for a replacement. I am so disappointed with the stock 5.0.2 that I am seriously considering not purchasing a Motorola device ever again (even if there is the CM option, a manufacturer should ship its device with a usable ROM).
I'ts time to check if a budget device meets my criteria above (if I exclude the Snapdragon one the list is pretty big)
Motorola, in my point of view, is one of the best manufacturers when looking for a nearly stock android experience, so no doubt in that.
Yes, the Moto G 2015 is out for several months now. No it's not worth the upgrade, you lose the stereo speakers and the performance difference is not that significant. You can get the best out of your 2014 installing simply a custom ROM like the unofficial CM 13 (6.0) which is a great ROM even though it's in Alpha stage.
If you want to give Motorola another shot and want to spend something like 300 dollars, you could buy the Moto X 2014 or for 400 dollars the Moto X Pure.
@thdervenis get oneplus x
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I don't regret buying this phone at all. (Got XT1068)
I was looking for a smooth, Aosp'ish stock rom with a community behind it and cheap phone.
Basically all i wanted +extra features like stereo speakers and OTA's.
Even though Moto G 2015 is out, nearly nothing changes. Both phones will get 6.0.
Well, i bought this device december 2014, after 5.0.2 update the phone was rubbish, CM 12.1 helped allot, but the 1 gb of ram has limitations... about a month ago i gave my father my xt1068 and bought myself a LG G Flex 2 for less than 300 euro, if you live in the US you can buy this phone brand new for 250$ unlocked from ebay, in my opinion is the best bang for your buck... better choice than the one plus x in my opinion, lg did a good job with the 5.1.1 update and fix all the heating problem with the SD810 and its going to recive 6.0
No regrets at all. It's perhaps the best phone I've had, including the Skyrocket I had before it. You should realize that a mid-range phone is just that; it's just a basic phone for the average user with a few extra features. However, seeing how quickly smartphone technology is progressing, our phone could be seen as a low-end device at this point.
You can't really expect high-end performance from a phone released a year ago and is under $200.
If price isn't an issue, look at some high-end models.
To be honest that's the first device of mine I didn't regret. It taught me a lot of new stuff, made me into CM + it's enough for my usage.
I guess it doesn't take a lot to please me. I'm coming from a nexus 4. For a budget phone this phone is spectacular. I have minimal OS 5.1.1 with halogen kernel and I've had no problems nor any regrets whatsoever. I'm the only one at my job to get 3G or any signal at all. I really don't know what else a person expect out of a phone, my GPS is great, the audio is awesome with faux sound control, and pictures and videos are just great. Popping a 64 gigabyte micro SD and you're good to go. So, needless to say I'll be keeping this phone for another year or two!
Yes, Play Services and Play Store are undoubtedly hogs. But when running BRNmod, or a custom ROM with MicroG and Xposed, I find the Moto G is still fine as a general day-to-day workhorse. I don't find it wanting for RAM, but I don't run a great deal in the background (Greenify, Tasker, Pushbullet, Minima Pro, AOSP keyboard and a few other services managed with Tasker and the Greenify plugin). I have Play Store installed, but have Tasker disable the package when it leaves the foreground. Auto-update of apps is done overnight via Tasker and simulated user input, after which Play Store is disabled again.
I've the chance to buy probably BNDS / BNIB units at the same cost as say more recent MT6737M/ Snapdragon 435 even MT6795 units with microsd, 64bit support.
I'm tempted by having the snapdragon 801 at a low cost but is it too late now expecially with the lack of 64bit support or does its raw power still relevant?
What would you do?
Moto X was a great device in its era. Even today I still praise it for the most compact device with a 5,2 inch screen. I can operate it easily with one hand. But,in today's standart,it's an outdated device. You got plenty devices with better specs and prices to choose. The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life. I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X and comparing both is so pathetic. Battery endurance in Redmi Note 4 is so much better. If Moto X is the device with 4000 mah battery, I think it's still countable. With custom ROM,Moto X is still fast and fluid. I prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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I don't even know how to root it to get sunshine. Kingroot doesnt work and sunshine says the firmware isnt compatible.
Absolutely......................................not. Look I love my X 2014 but it was a flawed device when it came out and that didn't let it age well. The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison. The lack of fingerprint sensor might not seem like a big deal but until you use it, you don't know what your missing. The phone is still smooth but how long until developers move on. The design in my opinion was still one of the best, a classic for sure. It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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huatz84 said:
prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Yeah I had hoped that the overall experience is still preferable even taking into account its cons.
huatz84 said:
The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life.
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I'm of the mindset that I can offset this issuee with phone with lots of powerbank choices now.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison.
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This is disappointing -- 1 factor that makes me consider this is (since i had no real life experience with it) -- that the AMOLED screen and camera would still be competent to comparable models.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
...It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
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Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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OK, if while considering all the above I add the relative context that in my area if available the G5 plus is 200USD, while the Moto X would be 110USD bnew, would that make it more appealing?
I've had mine for 2 years, and still loving it. I bought it in a carrier store for 400 Canadian Dollars. Since I can only buy phones in a store at full retail price, my choices are somewhat limited. I still can't find a "better" phone at $500 CAD. My Moto X 2014 is running the latest Android perfectly with 2GB RAM, and will run Android 8.0 Oreo (custom ROMs). The only consideration is band support, as it may not support the latest and fastest LTE bands used by some carriers nowadays. Also, this phone has NFC, some lower priced new phones may not.
The things I would be looking for in a new phone: longer battery life, latest LTE bands support, and maybe a bigger screen, like 5.5+ inch.
I just got that phone about 3 days ago... It is just amazing..remember.. It was a flagship.. Soft/hdw integratiom are perfect. Even with low battery and 2 gb of ram.. It's more worthy than several mid ranges phone mentioned. Besides, you get plenty of development for at least one more year.. Go for it!