User or system app? - SuperSU

I rooted my LG g3 (stock Lollipop) and flashed Supersu. It's been working well for some time, but lately, Supersu seems to be uninstalled (?) by the system, denying then root access to my apps (sd maid, titanium... ). What i do then is flash supersu again from TWRP , and all is back to normal... Untill Supersu is uninstalled again...
Is there anything i should do to avoid that? I'm thinking about installing Supersu as a system app. Would that matter?
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pr1jker said:
I rooted my LG g3 (stock Lollipop) and flashed Supersu. It's been working well for some time, but lately, Supersu seems to be uninstalled (?) by the system, denying then root access to my apps (sd maid, titanium... ). What i do then is flash supersu again from TWRP , and all is back to normal... Untill Supersu is uninstalled again...
Is there anything i should do to avoid that? I'm thinking about installing Supersu as a system app. Would that matter? Sent from this galaxy
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Your best bet is to post this question within the following thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2947298
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pr1jker said:
I rooted my LG g3 (stock Lollipop) and flashed Supersu. It's been working well for some time, but lately, Supersu seems to be uninstalled (?) by the system, denying then root access to my apps (sd maid, titanium... ). What i do then is flash supersu again from TWRP , and all is back to normal... Untill Supersu is uninstalled again...
Is there anything i should do to avoid that? I'm thinking about installing Supersu as a system app. Would that matter?
Sent from this galaxy
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I have seen this on several Android 5.1 based systems following the release of SuperSU 2.7.9. I don't know if the most recent builds (2.8.2 SR5 as of this post) solved it. In my case I either reverted to the native root solution (for CM/Lineage based ROMs) or fell back to SuperSU 2.7.6

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[ROOT] SGP312 FTF 10.3.1.C.0.136 Root (No need OTA)

Hi
I have tested the root tool from China forum. My device is SGP312 WIFI 32GB 10.3.1.C.0.136. No need to unlocked.
Download the attachment and install. One click and then it will reboot. It is rooted!
But the root-mangement software is Chinese. You can download Supersu or Superuser.
Use the Chinese root software to give Supersu or Superuser root access.
Run Supersu or Superuser and upgrade the binary. Exit and uninstall the Chinese root software.
Reboot. Then you are rooted with Supersu or Superuser.
This is the original link: http://www.mgyun.com/vroot
incredible...works on sgp321 .244......good job....juat install supersu afterwards and remove the chinese app....greatttttt
Good! I can confirm it works, just rooted my still locked SGP311FR with it.
What I don't like it's an exe file, install the app then run it to root.
If someone can extract the script and replace the root apk by superSU it would be cool.
Also I noticed while rooting my tablet that the screen became white two times (really fast for less than a second, sort of blink) like the Display tricks that were used before to root our xperia's.
Anyway thanks.
Btw : @insideccw posting a link to the source, and maybe the name of the autor of this tool, would be better if it's not your own tool.
babylonbwoy said:
Also I noticed while rooting my tablet that the screen became white two times (really fast for less than a second, sort of blink) like the Display tricks that were used before to root our xperia's.
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That might be the exploit that is accessing the framebuffer causing it.
works like a charm on my sgp351 lte 16gb .244, recomended, thans for the post
Also working with Xperia sp
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I tried this with my 312, but upon removing the chinese superuser with Titanium-backup, i could no longer use Superuser or SuperSU from the play-store. Any insight on to what exactly you guys went about this? I have reset using PC Companion.
Word fine With 4.2.2 thx a lot
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bugger561 said:
I tried this with my 312, but upon removing the chinese superuser with Titanium-backup, i could no longer use Superuser or SuperSU from the play-store. Any insight on to what exactly you guys went about this? I have reset using PC Companion.
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I think you need to install the alternative superuser app before deleting the Chinese one. I used superuser by chainsdd on my sp
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works great...thanks
That's pretty much what I did. I've tried SuperSU, superuser, and the cwm app. The problem seems to be that the updated binaries don't "stick", SuperSU claimed updating was a success but then prompted me to do so every time I opened it.
bugger561 said:
That's pretty much what I did. I've tried SuperSU, superuser, and the cwm app. The problem seems to be that the updated binaries don't "stick", SuperSU claimed updating was a success but then prompted me to do so every time I opened it.
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I don't know if the info in this thread may be of any use : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539711.
Specifically in the OP :
Remember, if you remove older first without installing newer one, you will lose Root n newer won't run.
One more thing market version will be regular application, so hard reset can delete it. So better install with flashable zip, to make it system application.
And in Post #8 :
Confirmed working fine! Recommended to install via CWM. It will replace the other (superuser) automatically so you don't have to manually remove it.
I used the above zip file and instructions a long time ago on my Galaxy S....but it may still be relevant for Tablet Z.
What I've been doing us installing from the play store, updating binaries, and then removing the Chinese app. Once I do that, I lose root in the market superSU and other root apps.
I'll probably end up unlocking the boot loader and flashing an image over adb.
Thanks for the help!
bugger
That is because you dont have /system r/w access.
bugger561 said:
What I've been doing us installing from the play store, updating binaries, and then removing the Chinese app. Once I do that, I lose root in the market superSU and other root apps.
I'll probably end up unlocking the boot loader and flashing an image over adb.
Thanks for the help!
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bugger561 said:
What I've been doing us installing from the play store, updating binaries, and then removing the Chinese app. Once I do that, I lose root in the market superSU and other root apps.
I'll probably end up unlocking the boot loader and flashing an image over adb.
Thanks for the help!
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It worked for me...I accidentally removed the Chinese app.
1. I did a reroot again.
2. installed dualrecovery and flashed the UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.zip.
3. It works now.
Supersu and cwm superuser caused my phone to go in a reboot loop when I tried updating the binaries. Superuser by ChainsDD is working fine though.
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insideccw,
Any tips on how t go about correcting this? Would I need to use adb or can I handle this form within android?
EDIT: Looks like others are having the same issue.
Doesn't work with SGP321 LTE tablet (on the newest firmware .244)
1. in order to uninstall the chinese root app one needs to have SuperSu
2. once you install SuperSU the root checker shows "OK, you're rooted"
3. once you get rid of the chinese root the root checker shows "you're NOT rooted" and the SuperSU binaries can't get updated (strange it needs another update)
Geezer said:
Doesn't work with SGP321 LTE tablet (on the newest firmware .244)
1. in order to uninstall the chinese root app one needs to have SuperSu
2. once you install SuperSU the root checker shows "OK, you're rooted"
3. once you get rid of the chinese root the root checker shows "you're NOT rooted" and the SuperSU binaries can't get updated (strange it needs another update)
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Works on mine. Update the superuser binaries before deleting Chinese superuser app. On mine, supersu detected the Chinese one and deleted it for me
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bugger561 said:
That's pretty much what I did. I've tried SuperSU, superuser, and the cwm app. The problem seems to be that the updated binaries don't "stick", SuperSU claimed updating was a success but then prompted me to do so every time I opened it.
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For those of you having this issue as I was, I just got mine to work with SuperSU. Hopefully these steps will work for you too:
-Gain root with the magical Chinese root tool
-install SuperSU
-update SuperSU binaries
-in SuperSU settings, choose "Switch superuser app"
-reboot the tablet and immediately go to the playstore and install SuperSU
-update SuperSU binaries
Let me know if it works!

Randomly Lost Root? - No Updates/OTAs applied

Last night I went to open Titanium Backup and was notified that I didn't have root. I've been rooted with ioroot for over a year now without issues. Root Checker app confirmes root was lost. SuperSu gave binaries error.
HOWEVER, in About Phone > System Status it was still showing as 'Rooted'. I'm still on 4.2.2 / VS98011A. All I've done is update the same ol' apps I've had for months.
What gives? Anybody have any ideas why this would happen?
The only thing I can think of is when SuperSu updated recently it asked to use TWRP (instead of the 'normal' method) to run a script to update binaries which I obliged. It seemed to struggle with that.
Anyway, I did use TowelRoot this time since I was too lazy to refresh my memory on the ioroot process. It worked fine however I've had a few random locks and a random reboot. I never had those issues before.
Any insight would be appreciated.
newuzer1 said:
Last night I went to open Titanium Backup and was notified that I didn't have root. I've been rooted with ioroot for over a year now without issues. Root Checker app confirmes root was lost. SuperSu gave binaries error.
HOWEVER, in About Phone > System Status it was still showing as 'Rooted'. I'm still on 4.2.2 / VS98011A. All I've done is update the same ol' apps I've had for months.
What gives? Anybody have any ideas why this would happen?
The only thing I can think of is when SuperSu updated recently it asked to use TWRP (instead of the 'normal' method) to run a script to update binaries which I obliged. It seemed to struggle with that.
Anyway, I did use TowelRoot this time since I was too lazy to refresh my memory on the ioroot process. It worked fine however I've had a few random locks and a random reboot. I never had those issues before.
Any insight would be appreciated.
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Do you have TWRP installed? If so try to get it to reflash the binaries again.
mjones73 said:
Do you have TWRP installed? If so try to get it to reflash the binaries again.
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After rerooting with towelroot, i uninstalled SuperSu. Then reinstalled SuperSu and choose install binaries via 'normal' method. That appears to have worked fine.
My question relates to why did I lose su/root functionality in the first place? Is this known to happen sometimes with app updates, (not just system/os/ota updates)? That has me concerned.
newuzer1 said:
After rerooting with towelroot, i uninstalled SuperSu. Then reinstalled SuperSu and choose install binaries via 'normal' method. That appears to have worked fine.
My question relates to why did I lose su/root functionality in the first place? Is this known to happen sometimes with app updates, (not just system/os/ota updates)? That has me concerned.
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I would assume not installing the SuperSU binary updates correctly broke SuperSU. You didn't lose root per say, you broke SuperSU which apps need to be able to run as root.

Systemless Root and Titanium Backup

I read on another forum that Titanium Backup does not work if you're using systemless root. Can anyone verify if this is true ?
If TB does work, how would I go about upgrading stock Android 6.01 rooted with TWRP to 6.0.1 with systemless root ?
aparanoidandroid said:
If TB does work, how would I go about upgrading stock Android 6.01 rooted with TWRP to 6.0.1 with systemless root ?
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Make backup's with TWRP.
NLBeev said:
Make backup's with TWRP.
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I know how to make backups with TB. That wasn't my question. My question is, how do I go from 6.0 rooted with SuperSU to 6.0.1 with systemless root (assuming TB works in 6.0.1)
aparanoidandroid said:
... how do I go from 6.0 rooted with SuperSU to 6.0.1 with systemless root (assuming TB works in 6.0.1)
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Read post 2153 of @Tylog in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
NLBeev said:
Read post 2153 of @Tylog in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
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So is SuperSU 2.61 the ZIP for Chainfire's systemless root ?
aparanoidandroid said:
So is SuperSU 2.61 the ZIP for Chainfire's systemless root ?
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Yes since version 2.6x.
NLBeev said:
Yes since version 2.6x.
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What about Titanium Backup ? Can anyone verify if it works or not with systemless root ? I read a post on Reddit where someone said that they were not able to use it with this root method. Do root apps need to be specifically modified for this type of rooting so it can recognize it ?
Also just to be clear, I am on stock Android 6.0 ROM, rooted and with TWRP recovery.
so the order that I would need following according to the post that you gave me is:
Flash 6.0.1 ROM
flash Update-unSU
flash SuperUser 2.61 or 2.52
Is that correct ? Can I dirty flash 6.0.1 over 6.0 ?
aparanoidandroid said:
What about Titanium Backup ? Can anyone verify if it works or not with systemless root ? I read a post on Reddit where someone said that they were not able to use it with this root method.
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Root apps with hard coded su-stuff needs to be updated for use with systemless root.
What I read....There is a new version 2.62 that solves compatibility issues. But Android Pay will not work.
NLBeev said:
Root apps with hard coded su-stuff needs to be updated for use with systemless root.
What I read....There is a new version 2.62 that solves compatibility issues. But Android Pay will not work.
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Oh really ? From what I read, Android Pay and OTA both do work using systemless root although many people think that Google will find a way to block Android Pay again. Its one of the reasons I wanted to use systemless root in the first place.
aparanoidandroid said:
Oh really ? From what I read, Android Pay and OTA both do work using systemless root..
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Not with version 2.62. Info in the SuperSU thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125
NLBeev said:
Not with version 2.62. Info in the SuperSU thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125
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OK. Thanks for the info.
Yes, TB works with systemless root.
I was running stock 6.0 w/ root (a few xposed mods) and here's what I did:
Wiped system, flashed Cataclysm, flashed SU 2.61, rebooted, profit.
I also manually updated the radio by using fastboot, for what it's worth. AdAway made me create a simlink with the systemless root, but TB seemed to work just fine.
EDIT: I wiped system before anything as I knew it would get rid of any root files and anything related to Xposed. Phone has been running great, but I haven't re-done Xposed as the only modules I really used were GravityBox and YouTubeAdAway. Catacylsm has almost all the features I used in GB so no need to do both. I might put Xposed on tonight for kicks, but I don't really need it for anything right now.
hayzooos said:
Yes, TB works with systemless root.
I was running stock 6.0 w/ root (a few xposed mods) and here's what I did:
Wiped system, flashed Cataclysm, flashed SU 2.61, rebooted, profit.
I also manually updated the radio by using fastboot, for what it's worth. AdAway made me create a simlink with the systemless root, but TB seemed to work just fine.
EDIT: I wiped system before anything as I knew it would get rid of any root files and anything related to Xposed. Phone has been running great, but I haven't re-done Xposed as the only modules I really used were GravityBox and YouTubeAdAway. Catacylsm has almost all the features I used in GB so no need to do both. I might put Xposed on tonight for kicks, but I don't really need it for anything right now.
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thanks but what happens when you wipe system ? What will I lose other than root ?
aparanoidandroid said:
thanks but what happens when you wipe system ? What will I lose other than root ?
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Anything Xposed related will be gone, but other than that...nothing. All apps, settings, etc of mine were all retained. Wifi networks, bluetooth connections, all those stayed. Wallpaper, Nova Launcher setup/settings, stayed.
Most ROMs have built in their script to wipe the system partition before flashing anyway, so you're likely already doing it if you're flashing ROMs. I just wanted to start with a pretty clean slate and check to see if anything in data was causing issues, and nothing so far.
Titanium Backup 7.4.0.2 and System Root was working about 2 weeks ago FLAWLESSLY
My last Titanium Backup was on July 7, 2016 with Systemless root, with XPosed, Gavitybox for MM and Stock 6.0 ROM Build MPHS24.49-18-3. I have been using Titanium Backup since I got my MOTO X Pure (2015) in May of 2016, and everything is working great, except I just noticed that Titanium Backup v 7.4.0.2 states
"Error
Sorry,
I could not acquire root privileges.
This application will *not* work! Please
verify that your ROM is rooted, and try
again.
This attempt was made using the "/system/
bin/su"command."
CLETjB said:
My last Titanium Backup was on July 7, 2016 with Systemless root, with XPosed, Gavitybox for MM and Stock 6.0 ROM Build MPHS24.49-18-3. I have been using Titanium Backup since I got my MOTO X Pure (2015) in May of 2016, and everything is working great, except I just noticed that Titanium Backup v 7.4.0.2 states
"Error
Sorry,
I could not acquire root privileges.
This application will *not* work! Please
verify that your ROM is rooted, and try
again.
This attempt was made using the "/system/
bin/su"command."
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Do you have Busybox installed? If not, that may be why. Had the same issue, installed Busybox to /su/xbin, and all is good now.
Gravity Box works with XPosed Framework, which ONLY works with "BusyBox on Rails", which I do have installed. Not sure if I can tell it where to install BusyBox, but it seems to be working now.
Does anyone have a clue to get magisk and titanium backup to work with each other... TB does not seem to ask for Root, seems to simply bypass it...
-----Nevermind, just make sure you have unticked Magisk Hide- in Settings. WORKS!

Xperia Z3c can I remove KingRoot without losing root?

Hi, I recently rooted my Z3c using KingRoot. I ten installed custom Rom: SLiM ROM 4.9. Works great, but now I found out Kingroot is very untrustworthy. How do I remove/replace kingroot without loosing root?
I rooted as per these instructions:
whattechsays.com/root-xperia-z2-z3-lollipop
So I have SuperSU installed, but KingRoot does not appear in apps list - so no option to uninstall. I can see kingroot folder in internal memory. Is deleting this sufficient to remove kingroot and any potential back-door?
I am new to rooting, so please explain simply if you can.
Many thanks.
Better remove Kingroot, and unroot all at once. You have Slimrom installed so I'm assuming your bootloader is unlocked so simply flash SuperSu Zip via recovery to get back root.
Kingroot is unreliable and shady when it comes to rooting devices in fact its not even endorsed here in Xda
Revontheus said:
Better remove Kingroot, and unroot all at once. You have Slimrom installed so I'm assuming your bootloader is unlocked so simply flash SuperSu Zip via recovery to get back root.
Kingroot is unreliable and shady when it comes to rooting devices in fact its not even endorsed here in Xda
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I already have SuperSU installed already. And when I run rootcheck it says SuperSU has root. I have ' uninstalled' Kingroot, however kingroot folder/files remain on internal memory and I assume it could still be active and hiding it's process?
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Came across this thread from Google, but since it doesn't look like you really got an answer, here goes.
When you flashed Slim ROM, you would have replaced the system partition where Kingroot was installed, meaning it is no longer there at all.
The files left on the internal memory would have been written by Kingroot before and can just be deleted.
Frenik said:
Came across this thread from Google, but since it doesn't look like you really got an answer, here goes.
When you flashed Slim ROM, you would have replaced the system partition where Kingroot was installed, meaning it is no longer there at all.
The files left on the internal memory would have been written by Kingroot before and can just be deleted.
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Oh dear, another Kingroot user stuck, how many warnings about Kingroot need to be posted on the threads before people listen.
Personally, knowing about what Kingroot does and the information it sends to China, I would wipe my phone and start from scratch.
There is a good guide written by bilboa1, which is very easy to follow.
Frenik is right, if you flash a rom, then the system should get wiped also. Just make sure you wipe data as well as dalvik/cache then you might end up with a Slim rom with SuperSU.
http://zidroid.com/how-to-get-ride-and-replace-kinguser-with-supersu-app/
I used the version 2.4 and worked like a charm
Although as above... even though i have stepped on the same rake as you... don't use KingsRoot... there probably is a fake copy of my phone somewhere in china thanks to that...
"use SuperSu Me" app
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Hi fellas. I write ehre in order to not open a new thread. I recently bought one of this little beasts. I'm running 23.4.A.1.264 (stock in phone), Android 5.1.1. I've succesfully rooted it with king root 4.9.5. I've tried to change it to Supersu without success. I've tried supersu me, the script to remove kingroot to supersu from ver 1.8 to 2.4 and always lose root permissions. Could someone tell me what the f*** I am doing wrong?

Supersu on Huawei y6 II not really working

After 4 hours of searching: it seems, that I have a special problem though it is already asked on xda-developers, but not answered.
The Problem: if an app is needs root-rights, it is endless working without any result. Supersu does not receive any request.
What you have to know:
1. I am very familiar with rooting especially with Huawei-devices and with Lollipop
2. My current problem-device: Huawei y6 II compact - version LYO-L21
3. The phone is unlocked, TWRP is installed and works.
I have installed via TWRP Supersu 2.76.zip (tried also 2.78 and 2.82), installation was ok with zip-verification. The app appears, su is in /system/xbin. Supersu works so far, but apps can not gain root.
What I also tried so far: changing the superuser app, in Supersu "cleaning for new install via Playstore" and install supersu-app from Playstore, clean unroot (and new install via TWRP), and the whole bunch with delete cache and dalvik.
If supersu does a clean unroot, the the su-binary is gone, every app requesting root tells me: "no root available".
What I read sof far: the best versions for this phone should be 2.7.6 and 2.7.9, Chainfire writing about special problems with newer Huawei-firmware, but that doesn't tell me anything - my phone is not "newer" ...
I would like to start from scratch - flash the system-partition from stock - but I did not think of any such problems, so I did no backup of the system-partition. Has anyone got one?
Where can I look for further information? Does anyone have the same problem?
Spielmops
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Spielmops said:
After 4 hours of searching: it seems, that I have a special problem though it is already asked on xda-developers, but not answered.
The Problem: if an app is needs root-rights, it is endless working without any result. Supersu does not receive any request.
What you have to know:
1. I am very familiar with rooting especially with Huawei-devices and with Lollipop
2. My current problem-device: Huawei y6 II compact - version LYO-L21
3. The phone is unlocked, TWRP is installed and works.
I have installed via TWRP Supersu 2.76.zip (tried also 2.78 and 2.82), installation was ok with zip-verification. The app appears, su is in /system/xbin. Supersu works so far, but apps can not gain root.
What I also tried so far: changing the superuser app, in Supersu "cleaning for new install via Playstore" and install supersu-app from Playstore, clean unroot (and new install via TWRP), and the whole bunch with delete cache and dalvik.
If supersu does a clean unroot, the the su-binary is gone, every app requesting root tells me: "no root available".
What I read sof far: the best versions for this phone should be 2.7.6 and 2.7.9, Chainfire writing about special problems with newer Huawei-firmware, but that doesn't tell me anything - my phone is not "newer" ...
I would like to start from scratch - flash the system-partition from stock - but I did not think of any such problems, so I did no backup of the system-partition. Has anyone got one?
Where can I look for further information? Does anyone have the same problem?
Spielmops
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I also successfully root a Huawei Y6 2 Duo CAM-L21 and there was no probleme. but i installed latest version of supersu, and also installed busyboxno probleme for the root. The probleme was the custom Rom.

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