battery charge rate question - Nokia 8 Questions & Answers

My Nokia 8 shows charging on the lock screen and after few minutes it shows the time left to fully charge.
Just then I noticed my phone was on 19% and lock screen was on when I plugged in the charger. On the lock screen above the fingerprint icon it read charging rapidly and then it changed to charging slowly and went back and forth a couple of times, then went just said charging. I can replicate it 100%. Does what it says on the screen really mean it was charging slow and fast and fluctuating in between it?
Phone running oreo beta latest and using stock cable and charger that was supplied. Ampere shows 2910m.
What do you guys make of it.
From 19% to full charge the lock screen shows 3hours. Is that right for Quick Charge?
TIA

I have exactly the same experience with the supplied charger and other QC 3.0 chargers. I tested all the chargers in my house and found my old QC 2.0 Samsung charger is able to constantly rapid charge the phone. I have not yet been able to test of it is actually faster, will update when my battery runs out.

The same here.
I have a QC 3.0 certified charger and it is not showing fast or rapid charge. Looks like there is some issue with Nokia. It was exactly the same using Nougat.

Was able to do further testing and it seems the phone is quick charging with the supplied charger, or any other QC 3.0 charger. The supplied charger was 20 minutes quicker than my old Samsung QC 2.0 charger.
There definitely is a bug in correctly displaying charging rate when connected to QC 3.0 chargers. Also the charging estimates are about twice as high as they should be. The phone can fully charge around an hour and a half, but estimate states three plus hours.
Looks like a couple other people have noticed this issue on the Nokia support forums.

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Quick Charging Problems

I purchased my Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge from Best Buy and it came with the free wireless charger.
I've found that when using the white charger that came with the phone is charges extremely slow. If I use the wireless charger or one of my other phones chargers its fine and charges at the normal rate.
1.) Plugged phone in at 45% w/stock white charger I get 4hr till 100%. Using Ampere it's an average of 90mA-170mA.
2.) Charging at 45% w/wireless charger it says 1hr 37min till 100%. Reading from Ampere is 270mA-390mA.
3.) Plugged in at 45% w/diff cell charger it says 1hr till 100%. Reading from Ampere is 700mA-1000mA.
So, obviously #3 charges the phone a hell of a lot faster. (More like the speed of the s5)
Anyone else having same or other issues when it comes to charging?

Extremely slow charging without enabling fast charge

So I do understand that the Note 5 has fast charge and normally we should leave it enabled to enjoy the charging speed. But the thing is, when fast charging my phone heats up very fast and although it does charge fast, I feel like it could have a negative impact on the battery. So recently I tried turning the fast charge option off (in the battery settings). I expect it to charge normally like when you plug in a non-fast charge adapter, like the one from Note 4 for instance, but it's very very slow. Measuring via ampere it shows ~480 for a couple first minutes, then it drops to ~180 for the rest of the time, then the phone even shows a notification of charging slowly. And that's using the original fast charge adapter, even. Not sure what's happening here. Anyone has a similar experience?
Cables make a world difference when it comes to charging. Are you using the original cable as well ? If you use ampere , and try different cables , you will see that the same charger , outputs different values , depending on the cable. It is also normal for the mA to reduce as the battery gets closer to 100% So a lot of things affect the current at which it is charging.

about turbo charge, the strange charging state

I just bought a Nexus 6, and one thing is strange to me.
When charging with the turbo charger and the cable come with phone, phone shows charging and back to not charging state, repeatedly about 3 minutes, finally stop the repeat and keep showing charging state like regular charging.
I never use turbo charge before, so I don't know it's normal or not.
Since Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 (your 'turbo charge') has the ability to charge devices at higher voltages and amperages ([email protected], [email protected], and [email protected]) than normal USB allows, it is probably negotiating between the device and the Quick Charge charger at what voltage/amperage it should start charging at - once it settles on that, it starts normal charging. As the battery gets charged, the charger reduces voltage and amperage. As a side note, the Nexus charger can also be used as a normal USB charger - it only shifts to the higher values when a proper successful negotiation happens between the device and the Quick Charge charger.

Battery charging issue since 8.1

Having issues charging with the original charger since 8.1. When I was in beta 8.1 the charger stopped after 5 seconds same when phone off and charging it just kept rebooting to charge screen. So rolled back to 8.0 and all fine. Now have 8.1 again and the charger has stopped working again. My Nintendo switch charger charges phone fine on 8.1. So is there anything I can try to see why 8.1 has stopped orignal Nokia charger Woking ?
The Nokia charger charges the Nintendo switch fine
Same
Same with me .. Need answer from the expert
Yeah same, mine charges now and again ? and at only 1.5amps! Weird because my QC Charger ramps up to 3.0amps!
I bought the phone four days ago, TA- 1004- Global Dual SIM. Immediately updated it to 8.1. From yesterday Nokia's original charger charges the phone only at 1.5A...
What app do you use to check the charge rate?
Didusieq said:
What app do you use to check the charge rate?
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Ampere https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
May be you can switOpen develop-model , then close usb debug model. maybe help you...
STUPlDidi0t said:
Having issues charging with the original charger since 8.1. When I was in beta 8.1 the charger stopped after 5 seconds same when phone off and charging it just kept rebooting to charge screen. So rolled back to 8.0 and all fine. Now have 8.1 again and the charger has stopped working again. My Nintendo switch charger charges phone fine on 8.1. So is there anything I can try to see why 8.1 has stopped orignal Nokia charger Woking ?
The Nokia charger charges the Nintendo switch fine
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Try to close developer options in settings. Probably USB debugging could be an issue. Turn it off.
Yeah it's werid my phone charges full speed for a bit then slows down to 1.5ah
I believe Ampere is not really accurate together with QC. Used a small USB multimeter once and there you can see that the charging amperage during quick charging is not much higher then about 1.4A.
One of the characteristics of QC is that the voltage during charing is boosted. At 'peak power' the multimeter showed 12V & 1.4A, thus charging at almost 17W instead of the 'normal' 5V & 1.5A (7.5W).
Hi i am new here so forgive me
i have been checking the QC from beggining and it seems at 9V i get 7V and 1.44A and seems its a new type of battery that works this way at 4.3 volts instead of 5v at 1.79 get from other phones with a 4.2 volt battery.
changed charger with 5V 2.1A and it still went up to 1.44 .
i think the default charger is the only one to use.
i get a day and a half with fb and games seems that it doesnt get hot
SebasNL said:
I believe Ampere is not really accurate together with QC. Used a small USB multimeter once and there you can see that the charging amperage during quick charging is not much higher then about 1.4A.
One of the characteristics of QC is that the voltage during charing is boosted. At 'peak power' the multimeter showed 12V & 1.4A, thus charging at almost 17W instead of the 'normal' 5V & 1.5A (7.5W).
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Agreed, standard charging is at 5V, QC 2 jumps up to at 9V and QC 3 jumps up to 12V but Ampere's voltage reading doesn't seem to reflect these boosted voltages.
My old Samsung S6 (from which I just upgraded to the Nokia 8) says "fast charging" when QC is active vs "cable charging" at 500mA (e.g. when plugged into a very old charger or PC) vs "charging" at other non-QC rates... I had assumed this was an Android feature that the Nokia 8 would have too, but apparently not, which is rather disappointing. Perhaps it's worth a feature request in the official Nokia.com forum for the N8?
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Correction: Looking at Ampere again, the voltage appears to refer to the battery, not the incoming power, it only shows the mA for that, not the voltage. So I'll log a feature request for Ampere...
UPDATE: My phone is model TA-1012, I'm currently running Android 8.1.0 with build number 00WW_4_84A_SP03 and I've noticed that the phone DOES tell me if it's quick charging, but only on the lock screen when it's showing notifications, and only as per the following sequence:
1) Directly after plugging in to any charger it says "charging"
2) If it's plugged into a QC2.0 or QC3.0 charger (and using a compatible cable) then after a while (not sure how long exactly, seems to be about 2 mins) this changes to "rapid charging"
3) After another while it changes to "charging (XX mins until full)" or "rapid charging (XX mins until full)" depending on the type of charger (and cable)
However, the phone is supposed to support QC 3.0 but the charging time estimate is always the same no matter whether I use a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger, which suggests that it's actually a QC 2.0 device.
So i talked with Nokia support about the charging issue. They told me how to fix it...
1. Settings -> apps & notifications -> see all apps -> press the 3 dots in the up right corner -> show system -> battery protection -> storage
-> clear cache and data
2. Soft reset the phone.
How to do a soft reset: Press the Power button and Volume Up until you see "Powered by Android" on the screen. You can then release the buttons . Thats it.
its fast charging , it doesnt fast charge from 0 -100 . it works like this on nokia 8 : from 0-40 3amp , from 40-80 1.5amp , from 80-90 1amp , and decreases slowly from that.
but i have another problem , i dont have original cable and charger , my cable is anker powerline+ and my charger is xiaomi qc3 charger . my problem is that from 0-40 when its fast charging it keeps disconnecting and connecting every 10-15 sec.
BTW u can check your charge status when ur phone is locked (rapid charging = fast charging , charging = normal charging"this is from 80-100" , slow charging = somthing is wrong check ur cable or charger)

wireless charger very slow

hi guys, i'm from a 8 note and now i'm using sasung's original 8 wireless wireless charger to plow my new 9 notes, but i'm noticing that it's really slow, is it normal? I have the impression that even imposed fast charge does not change anything, do you have any suggestions?
im also using the wireless charger that I received from Samsung in 2018 for the note 8 promotion.
I can confirm that fast wireless charing takes 2 hours + on the note 9 and up to 3 hours when using slow wireless charging.
Also, keep in mind we have a way bigger battery so i am not surprised seeing these charge times compared to the note 8. I know Samsung released a new wireless charger so we might see better charge times on that??
I use the wireless charger I bought for my Note 4 for $12. It charges my phone in 2 hours from 50%, which is about double than using the cord. It doesn't say slow, or fast, just charging.
I use a Samsung wireless charger I had with a kit when I bought my S8+ and it says "Fast charging wireless" I believe. I use it to charge over night though so not sure how long it takes.
I use the ADATA CW0100 charger with Sony UCH10 QC2.0 Charger - the phone says it's fast charging but it takes about 3 hours to go from 11% to ~100% (with a clear case + bus card in between on the back). The interesting issue is which power brick I use. WIth Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charge power brick, I kept getting a charging paused error in the previous firmware, unless I have the phone placed in a very specific position without a case. With the update (N960FXXU2ARI9), it no longer gives me the error even if I charge it with a case, but the charging seems a bit more noisy in comparison to the UCH10 (there's no fans, it sounds like the inductor making a pulsing clicking sound). Will be checking its charging speed.
EDIT: I spoke to soon, it started the charging paused error again after I posted here. If you want to use third-party wireless chargers for fast charging, please use QC2.0/3.0 chargers instead of Samsung's own.

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