wireless charger very slow - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

hi guys, i'm from a 8 note and now i'm using sasung's original 8 wireless wireless charger to plow my new 9 notes, but i'm noticing that it's really slow, is it normal? I have the impression that even imposed fast charge does not change anything, do you have any suggestions?

im also using the wireless charger that I received from Samsung in 2018 for the note 8 promotion.
I can confirm that fast wireless charing takes 2 hours + on the note 9 and up to 3 hours when using slow wireless charging.
Also, keep in mind we have a way bigger battery so i am not surprised seeing these charge times compared to the note 8. I know Samsung released a new wireless charger so we might see better charge times on that??

I use the wireless charger I bought for my Note 4 for $12. It charges my phone in 2 hours from 50%, which is about double than using the cord. It doesn't say slow, or fast, just charging.

I use a Samsung wireless charger I had with a kit when I bought my S8+ and it says "Fast charging wireless" I believe. I use it to charge over night though so not sure how long it takes.

I use the ADATA CW0100 charger with Sony UCH10 QC2.0 Charger - the phone says it's fast charging but it takes about 3 hours to go from 11% to ~100% (with a clear case + bus card in between on the back). The interesting issue is which power brick I use. WIth Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charge power brick, I kept getting a charging paused error in the previous firmware, unless I have the phone placed in a very specific position without a case. With the update (N960FXXU2ARI9), it no longer gives me the error even if I charge it with a case, but the charging seems a bit more noisy in comparison to the UCH10 (there's no fans, it sounds like the inductor making a pulsing clicking sound). Will be checking its charging speed.
EDIT: I spoke to soon, it started the charging paused error again after I posted here. If you want to use third-party wireless chargers for fast charging, please use QC2.0/3.0 chargers instead of Samsung's own.

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Slow Charging 9.7" Tab S2...

Hey guys,
I haven't used my Galaxy Tab S2 in a while now. When I plugged it in it was at 0%. I used "a" (possibly not original that came with box) OEM 2.0A Samsung Charger + Note 5/Samsung Official Cable to charge my tablet. It has only gone up by 5% in the past 30 minutes.
Also when it was at 0% it said it'd take 7hr 12min to fully charge.
Is this normal when the tablet has not been used in a long time, or am I possibly looking at a bad charger/cable as the charger and cable charge my Note 5 just fine at the normal (non-fast charge) speed where it charges my phone fully in just over 1hr 30 min.
If someone could help me out to resolve this I'd be grateful.
Thanks! :laugh:
Don't think the charger and cable are faulty as they work on your mobile. Generally whenever I charge my Samsung galaxy tab s2 using a different charger it shows a notification if the charger plugged in is slow. If it didn't show this I don't see why it would take so long other than the charger your using has a lower output causing it to take a lot longer than usual to charge.
Every android device I have will sometimes not charge fast enough - it doesn't matter what charger I'm using. If I catch that the charge is slow I just unplug it and replug it a it'll be normal again. I think the "smart charge" goes crazy sometimes.
I had the same problem on the tab s2 8''. It was because the motherboard broke. They fixed it under warranty.
When I had this problem I couldn't attach any external device (usb, playstation controller) through USB. Try if you can
I don't have the original charger anymore to compare on my 9.7. I use anker potable batteries to be free of wall sockets. It isn't 2.0. In battery monitor widget, really good app, shows charge anywhere from 1200-1600mA 20% per hour while in use during charging. 5 hours total. I think with screen off I get 30%. I get 10 hours of screen on time zero loss with it off over night. Using 5.1
It could be the motherboard. I know with laptops charging starts to mess up a few weeks before it no longer works at. The connection between the USB and board weakens over time/use.
moustafasadek11 said:
Hey guys,
I haven't used my Galaxy Tab S2 in a while now. When I plugged it in it was at 0%. I used "a" (possibly not original that came with box) OEM 2.0A Samsung Charger + Note 5/Samsung Official Cable to charge my tablet. It has only gone up by 5% in the past 30 minutes.
Also when it was at 0% it said it'd take 7hr 12min to fully charge.
Is this normal when the tablet has not been used in a long time, or am I possibly looking at a bad charger/cable as the charger and cable charge my Note 5 just fine at the normal (non-fast charge) speed where it charges my phone fully in just over 1hr 30 min.
If someone could help me out to resolve this I'd be grateful.
Thanks! :laugh:
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Sounds normal. The big Lion batteries in these devices are just weird at time. Running one down to 0 is a good way to kill the battery permanently. Let it charge slowly and then keep it above 20-30% from now on. Should improve over time.
I think its a myth you shouldn't let the battery get low. As long as the battery itself says I'm at zero at the correct voltage then zero is perfectly fine. I'm not an expert here but at 5% battery I'm at 3.6v and will turn off in a few minutes after that. I think batteries are manufactured to safely go down to 3.2 before saying no more. Need to charge.

Slow Charging - Max Charging Amps?

So I recently picked up a T813 to replaced my Nexus 7 (2013), I've had a few weeks now, and as with all my devices I slow charge it. This tablet generally took ~30 hours or so to charge at 0.35-0.45 amps, but I didn't think anything of it. This week I went on a trip and plugged it into a charger that can output anywhere from 0.8 to 1.8 amps depending on the port you are using (all the current ratings I'm listing are what I've measured, not what the devices are rated). My tablet said "Charging" at first, but then once it hit 75% all it would say is "Charging Slowly" no matter what. Now that's all it will say. Sometimes after a restart it will say "Charging" briefly, but then it goes back to "Charging slowly". The charger I was trying to use was an Anker product, so not a complete "no-name" charger.
I did some more checking and it appears my tablet has an upper charge limit of 1.5 amps using even the factory charger which is rated 2.0 amps. That same factory charger plugged into my Nexus 5X outputs 1.88 amps. Anything less than 1.5 amps, my tablet behaves as the rest of the devices. If I plug the tablet into a power source that current is limited to 0.5 amp, using the same cable, using an Honor 5X, and the Tab S2, both draw the ~0.5 amp.
Now the "Charging" and "Charging Slowly" messages were on Lineage, however since I have returned home, I and done all the subsequent testing, I have used Odin to return completely back to the factory Samsung software. Right now I have some videos playing to run the battery down, and am planning to trying to charge the battery all the way up using the factory charger to see how long it takes. If it also takes 30 hours, I'm going to assume it has to be a hardware problem?
Anyone else have any ideas?
My T813 arrived with Nougat on it. The only Odin firmware I could find that would successfully flash was a Marshmallow so I let videos play overnight (which did actually play overnight surprisingly!) to fully drain the battery. This morning I started charging the battery with the OEM charger, and from fully dead to 100% it took roughly 4.5 hours. So I would say this is normal from what I've read. I would say this rules out any hardware issue.
My next test will be to find a flashable Nougat OEM image as it doesn't want to update itself. Then see how it performs then. I'm starting to wonder if Samsung changed something in the firmware to make it charge slower on purpose just to prevent any "Note" like issues from happening? Finally then I'll have to also go back to Lineage, as I don't plan on using it at all with the stock software, as it's quite unbearable. There's a reason I only buy devices that Lineage is available for.
So after updating to Nougat, and letting it update, then fully draining the battery again, which again took overnight, it seems to charge even faster. This time from 0-100% taking just under 4 hours using the OEM charger, at roughly 3 hours 45 minutes.
I'll put Lineage back on it tonight, however this definitely calms my concern that I had a hardware issue. It's definitely fine. I'll see what kind of charge time I get with Lineage.
It charges with ~1600mah
I've had slow charging issue twice. I sent it in the first time and Samsung sent me a slow charger (not fast charger) to use. Worked fine for about 10 months. Once I update to Nougat, my charging became slow again.
Seems like many people have slow charging issues with this tablet. I have the Verizon tab s2 9.7
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It charges with ~1600mah
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Yeah this is what I've noticed. This seems to be about the upper boundary. Despite being shipped with a 2 amp charger. I did reinstall Linage, and it charges fine with the OEM charger, so it's not a bug on their end, or a hardware problem for me. With LOS and the OEM charge it's still ~4 hours to charge with is what I would expect roughly based on my other tests, even though LOS still reports charging slowly.
I think my problem early with the 30+ hours of charge time was related to the hub I was charging with. I have been having issues where I would wake up and my phone wouldn't be charged at all. Most nights it would though, so I figured my cable was starting to go bad. Swapped the cable and same issue. Measured the current on the ports, and it was far below what it should be on a USB port, the charge ports were getting 0.18-0.2 amps, the regular ports were 0.2-0.3 amps (not sure why the regular ports were getting more). Then I noticed the power adapter was not plugged in all the way into the wall. After plugging it in all the way the current on those ports returned to normal. This honestly doesn't make any sense to me, so it maybe time to replace that hub. Either way, I know the problem is not the tablet, which calms my fears about it, since it was the new piece of hardware.

battery charge rate question

My Nokia 8 shows charging on the lock screen and after few minutes it shows the time left to fully charge.
Just then I noticed my phone was on 19% and lock screen was on when I plugged in the charger. On the lock screen above the fingerprint icon it read charging rapidly and then it changed to charging slowly and went back and forth a couple of times, then went just said charging. I can replicate it 100%. Does what it says on the screen really mean it was charging slow and fast and fluctuating in between it?
Phone running oreo beta latest and using stock cable and charger that was supplied. Ampere shows 2910m.
What do you guys make of it.
From 19% to full charge the lock screen shows 3hours. Is that right for Quick Charge?
TIA
I have exactly the same experience with the supplied charger and other QC 3.0 chargers. I tested all the chargers in my house and found my old QC 2.0 Samsung charger is able to constantly rapid charge the phone. I have not yet been able to test of it is actually faster, will update when my battery runs out.
The same here.
I have a QC 3.0 certified charger and it is not showing fast or rapid charge. Looks like there is some issue with Nokia. It was exactly the same using Nougat.
Was able to do further testing and it seems the phone is quick charging with the supplied charger, or any other QC 3.0 charger. The supplied charger was 20 minutes quicker than my old Samsung QC 2.0 charger.
There definitely is a bug in correctly displaying charging rate when connected to QC 3.0 chargers. Also the charging estimates are about twice as high as they should be. The phone can fully charge around an hour and a half, but estimate states three plus hours.
Looks like a couple other people have noticed this issue on the Nokia support forums.

Mi 9 with Xiaomi 20W wireless charger, 120+ minutes to charge from 0 to 100%, defect?

I bought these together and today I tried the charging time by depleting the battery and do a full charge with the 20W wireless charger, the charging time is 120 something minutes, which is far from the official number of about 90 minutes, or 100 minutes from some reviewer.
I used the power adapter that came with the wireless charger, which has 27W, and plugged into 6 outlets power strip (totally 3 are in use). The phone is a Chinese version with Chinese ROM, 6GB+128GB. The phone was drained and turn on after charging start, and no explicit apps were launched, other than the system one.
I don't know if this is the charger problem or the phone battery, I wrote to Xiaomi but have not heard back.
Could be a subpar cable, do you get good speeds plugging directly into the charger with it?
If you have a case or ring grip or anything inbetween your phone and the pad that might be impacting speeds
Also placement is really important, you wanna center the ring on the screen on the pad as closely as possible
Probably not an issue as you got the charger with the pad but a thread in "XIAOMI MI 9 ACCESSORIES" I can't link to describes how there are fake chargers out there too

Note 9 Charges Faster When Fast Charge Is Disabled

I've been having a repeatable problem. I have a Note 9 that will charge faster when I disable fast charging under battery settings. I tested the load being drawn with a USB Power meter these are the results I got.
Using a USB-A to USB-C cable:
When QC is enabled:
Phone draws 0.5amp charge, 10ohms resistance at 5.02V.
When QC is disabled:
Phone draws 1.2 amps, 3.9 ohms resistance, at 5.02V
I am using the same cable, same power bank. The power bank's USB-A port is able to draw ~1.9 amps at 5V, tested using a USB Meter and Load Tester that will put the USB under 1 amp and 2 amp loads at 5V, with resistance being ~2.7 ohms without the power bank turning off. I haven't tested the power bank at 9V, I don't have a 9V load tester
When I immediately switch from QC to non QC, the results above are repeatable.
Things I Have Done So Far:
Reboot Phone
Clear Phone Cache
Reboot Into Safe Mode
Try Different Charging Cables, Blocks, including OEM parts.
Every once in a while, it will switch back to being able to QC fast charge but it is random.
If I use a Power delivery capable block charger, it will charge at ~2750mA (I dont have other numbers like amps, voltage, or resistance, I'm still waiting on a USB-C meter)
My phone's wireless charging has no problem operating at it's max capacity
Any one else have this problem? Anything else I could do before I factory reset my phone?
I posted about losing Fast Charge thru the stock cable a while back and got no answers or a fix. I have not tried turning off the option to see if it charges any faster. It takes almost 2 to 3hrs to fully charge at this point. I'll take any fix or work around at this point.
TokedUp said:
I posted about losing Fast Charge thru the stock cable a while back and got no answers or a fix. I have not tried turning off the option to see if it charges any faster. It takes almost 2 to 3hrs to fully charge at this point. I'll take any fix or work around at this point.
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Turning off fast charge made my charging a bit better. With Fast Charge (FC) turned on, I was getting 0.5amps (gave around 400-500mA). Turning FC off, sped up my charging by 50%, charging at 1.2 amp (roughly gave me 800-1000mA; Both charges were at 5V). Im able to charge at around 1000 mA with this setup, a little less than wireless quick charge. No idea why turning it off helped.
Another workaround that brought my charging speed WAY UP, to 2500mA, was buying a Power Delivery (PD) capable block WITH A USB-C to USB-C cable. I can get normal fast charging speeds with that setup.
I cant get FC with USB-A to USB-C cables, which is frustrating as most of my charging blocks are the regular USB-A input port.
Hope this helps you. 2-3 hour charge is brutal.
What's even weirder is in my car my phone would barely charge. But since I lost FC at home, it started working in the car. So in my car I can FC but not at home. I even tried the wire I use in the car and still nothing. Idk what is going on
Is it possible that turning off QC is turning off a regulation in the software to keep the battery from overheating? With this regulation turned off that would normally be on when quickcharging, the regulation is not active, thus causing the battery to charge at a less regulated speed, causing charging to be faster? Maybe there's a QC bug currently that's hampering it's full potential? What software version are you guys currently?
I just checked QC on mine on the latest Xfinity version and no matter what charger or cable I use with the function, it is working.
It's def not a software thing. I'm on latest October patch. Samsung told me that they have seen some issue with the charging port and once it goes bad there is nothing to do but replace it. They told me to bring it in to a store for repair thru my carrier. Haven't had a chance to go.
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Jammol said:
Is it possible that turning off QC is turning off a regulation in the software to keep the battery from overheating? With this regulation turned off that would normally be on when quickcharging, the regulation is not active, thus causing the battery to charge at a less regulated speed, causing charging to be faster? Maybe there's a QC bug currently that's hampering it's full potential? What software version are you guys currently?
I just checked QC on mine on the latest Xfinity version and no matter what charger or cable I use with the function, it is working.
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That what I was thinking. Something is actively limiting the charge coming in. Everytime I had quick charge enabled I've been monitoring the ohms and the resistance would automatically jump to 10ohms. Then I disable QC and the resistance automatically drops to around 6 ohms.
I'm running Android Pie 9.0, Kernel version 4.9.112
TokedUp said:
It's def not a software thing. I'm on latest October patch. Samsung told me that they have seen some issue with the charging port and once it goes bad there is nothing to do but replace it. They told me to bring it in to a store for repair thru my carrier. Haven't had a chance to go.
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Nocturncal said:
That what I was thinking. Something is actively limiting the charge coming in. Everytime I had quick charge enabled I've been monitoring the ohms and the resistance would automatically jump to 10ohms. Then I disable QC and the resistance automatically drops to around 6 ohms.
I'm running Android Pie 9.0, Kernel version 4.9.112
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Yeah it could definitely be hardware related as well, due to each pin on a type c charging serving different purposes. There are two specific pins(I think it's two), that are responsible for enabling higher input of electricity. Couple years ago Google made comments about the cheap Amazon knock off cables and why they failed after a short while. Wouldn't surprise me if Samsung cheaped up for the cables and port on the device. I'll have to try and find the articles I read concerning the pins.
Here's a good start to understanding Type C.
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/te...pe-c-which-pins-power-delivery-data-transfer/
Its the **** cable they supply with the phone.
I had all the same problems.
I noticed that when I turn off quick charge the phone can charge at 5v 1.7 amps. (USB doctor).
When I turn on quick charge it can only charge at 5 volts 0.40 amps.
The phone is trying to charge at 9 volts but for some reason cant so it goes into this safe mode.
I purchased a new Samsung cable it lasted for a week and developed the same problem.
A hint when it develops this problem Dex stops working.
I tried all kinds of cables. One Plus 5, and a few others. I finally got it to work again with my wifes one plus 6 cable.
Im now researching USB Type C ports and USB standard 2, 3, 3.1, 3.2
As well the quick charge tech used by Samsung. Its not Quick Charge 2. Its a proprietary standard.
So if your having problems with quick charge it could be due to your cable or your Port. Things very rarely go wrong with the charger. Also get yourself a USB Doctor. Its a big help. And only costs a few bucks.
Hope this helps somebody out there.
Right now I am trying to compare Note 9 vs Note 20 USB cable.

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