QuickCharge or USB power delivery? - Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact Questions & Answers

This phone supports both. Which one do you prefer and why?

QuickCharge doesn't seem to work for me.
I haven't had the need yet to use Power Delivery, except for the usual usage like USB-OTG.

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OTG + charge

Has anyone gotten OTG + charging working on the Turbo 1? Meaning, having a USB peripheral connected and the Turbo charging at the same time.
I'm using a USB DAC in the car connected directly to an amp. Sound is amazing. Would be cool to charge while playing music.
TIA.
I've tried to accomplish this on my Turbo 1 using hubs and splitters and whatnot. I am pretty certain that when an otg is plugged in the phone is incapable of receiving any current alongside the flash drive, since while using otg the micro usb port is in a sort of 'out' mode, so to speak. The only way I've found I was able to use otg+charging was to wireless charge. The phone gets a bit hot but that could be because I was otg-ing a straight up HDD; with a flash drive I'm not concerned it'll get too hot, and it definitely won't overheat. Let me know if you find other solutions

USB hub work?

Will something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019R9ILTG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_q-JAxb7EJEY0P work on the OnePlus 3?
I would like to connect for example a DAC and a USB stick at the same time... Would that work?
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Tryminator said:
Will something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019R9ILTG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_q-JAxb7EJEY0P work on the OnePlus 3?
I would like to connect for example a DAC and a USB stick at the same time... Would that work?
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I just bought a similar, though less expensive case I'm expecting tomorrow: Sabrent 4-Port USB 3.0 Hub with Individual Power Switches and LEDs included 5V/2.5A power adapter (HB-UMP3) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TPMEOYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_O9CFxb36PNQJJ
Everything I've read suggests most chargers are fine, though you'll miss the benefits of Dash charging. You don't need an overpriced USB hub, just type c cables. I'll update if something goes awry.
Some additional data re: cables here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...sb-c-compliant-cables-adapters-t3401820/page2
Tryminator said:
Will something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019R9ILTG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_q-JAxb7EJEY0P work on the OnePlus 3?
I would like to connect for example a DAC and a USB stick at the same time... Would that work?
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Normally, phones will support only one mode at a time; it eithers charges OR file-transfer mode. Correct me if oneplus3 is different (doing research, placing order soonish -> i broke my one+ screen )

Does XZ2 support OTG and charging at the same time? And HDMI Support.

Hello guys,
I would like to use my XZ2 with USB Hub to power mouse, keyboard, flash etc. But I worry about it discharging quickly while playing for example. Does XZ2 support OTG and charging at the same time?
I bought an OTG charching cable from china recently but it does not seem to work, it does not charge even without OTG device connected. So I wanted to ask if any of you have any experience with this. I read that some devices support it, but its dependant on the kernel. My samsung tablet does.
One thing that comes to my mind is, is it possible to OTG and wireless charge at the same time?
And lastly, does XZ2 support USB-C to HDMI, I think that I saw post here recently, but I am not entirely sure.
Thank you for any responce in Advance.
Dancek said:
Hello guys,
I would like to use my XZ2 with USB Hub to power mouse, keyboard, flash etc. But I worry about it discharging quickly while playing for example. Does XZ2 support OTG and charging at the same time?
I bought an OTG charching cable from china recently but it does not seem to work, it does not charge even without OTG device connected. So I wanted to ask if any of you have any experience with this. I read that some devices support it, but its dependant on the kernel. My samsung tablet does.
One thing that comes to my mind is, is it possible to OTG and wireless charge at the same time?
And lastly, does XZ2 support USB-C to HDMI, I think that I saw post here recently, but I am not entirely sure.
Thank you for any responce in Advance.
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HDMI is not supported and your dock needs an own power supply or your phone will tell you, that the hub needs too much power.

Chromecast with Google TV Ethernet and USB Hub Questions

This thing is pretty new, but has anyone been able to make it work with USB OTG ethernet adapters and hubs? Whenever I try the ones I have I end up on the error screen where it tells you to plug it into the wall instead of a TV USB port. I realize the ethernet adapter is available for pre-order, but that's $20 I would rather not spend when I have a few USB ethernet adapters laying around. Besides, it won't have USB ports.
The reviews I have seen say you need a high-wattage adapter. The packaged one is not strong enough to use through a hub.
Note10.1Dude said:
The reviews I have seen say you need a high-wattage adapter. The packaged one is not strong enough to use through a hub.
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I saw those and it doesn't make much sense to me. This has to be an artificial limitation by Google to force people to use a wall wart instead of a TV USB port to avoid customer service headaches. I highly doubt this thing needs that much power to operate. I tried an old OnePlus Dash Charger (5V 4A output) with a simple powered OTG dongle and still got nothing.
Cheesethief said:
I saw those and it doesn't make much sense to me. This has to be an artificial limitation by Google to force people to use a wall wart instead of a TV USB port to avoid customer service headaches. I highly doubt this thing needs that much power to operate. I tried an old OnePlus Dash Charger (5V 4A output) with a simple powered OTG dongle and still got nothing.
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Its looking for a power supply capable of delivering 1.5A of current.
The CPU in the thing is a QUAD-core Cortex-A55. Specifically, Amlogic S905X3. That's a pretty substantial CPU, so I don't think that 1.5A is that much of overkill. If you look at other tv boxes with the same CPU, you'll also see that they typically include 2A power supplies. In order to ensure that the power supply is capable of this, they are enforcing USB-PD profile 1 compliance.
Now USB-PD requires digital communication between the device and the power supply. If your "OnePlus Dash Charger" is not compliant with USB-PD, or if your "simple powered OTG dongle" blocks the communications, then the TV dongle will assume that you have it plugged into a standard 500 mA power adapter and complain to you about it being insufficient.
Oh, and the SoC itself has a TDP of 5W (1A at 5V). Add a few more parts like RAM and UFS and you can easily draw more than that, plus, you always want your power supply to have some room to spare -- not run it at its limits. That clearly puts you into 1.5A *MINIMUM* territory.
https://gadgetversus.com/processor/amlogic-s905x3-specs/
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Note10.1Dude said:
The reviews I have seen say you need a high-wattage adapter. The packaged one is not strong enough to use through a hub.
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In order to prevent yourself from sounding like a doofus, a "watt" is a unit of POWER. So when you are talking about the adapter, use the words "high-POWER". "wattage" is very awkward.
96carboard said:
Its looking for a power supply capable of delivering 1.5A of current.
The CPU in the thing is a QUAD-core Cortex-A55. Specifically, Amlogic S905X3. That's a pretty substantial CPU, so I don't think that 1.5A is that much of overkill. If you look at other tv boxes with the same CPU, you'll also see that they typically include 2A power supplies. In order to ensure that the power supply is capable of this, they are enforcing USB-PD profile 1 compliance.
Now USB-PD requires digital communication between the device and the power supply. If your "OnePlus Dash Charger" is not compliant with USB-PD, or if your "simple powered OTG dongle" blocks the communications, then the TV dongle will assume that you have it plugged into a standard 500 mA power adapter and complain to you about it being insufficient.
Oh, and the SoC itself has a TDP of 5W (1A at 5V). Add a few more parts like RAM and UFS and you can easily draw more than that, plus, you always want your power supply to have some room to spare -- not run it at its limits. That clearly puts you into 1.5A *MINIMUM* territory.
https://gadgetversus.com/processor/amlogic-s905x3-specs/
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In order to prevent yourself from sounding like a doofus, a "watt" is a unit of POWER. So when you are talking about the adapter, use the words "high-POWER". "wattage" is very awkward.
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All well and good maybe, but PD Profile 1 basically states that the wall wart provided is not up to spec.
BUT, that's actually a good thing because this is not a PD device, period. I can prove that very simply now. I am using a 5v 3a barrel jack wall wart to power it via a hub.
Specifically this hub: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QN3YYXM/
And specifically this powersupply:
https://pine64.com/product/rock64-pinebook-pro-pine-h64-5v-3a-switching-power-supply/?v=0446c16e2e66
Unfortunately, I cannot seem to get it to pass data through.
Edit: I did buy the hub to test, but the Rock64 powersupply is one I've had for a few years because of my sbc hobby.
EDIT2: Further testing shows that using the included barrel jack to usb cable (that comes with the above hub) with the Google provided psu works just fine too. So no need to buy the barrell jack wall wart above. Still no data passthrough though. The hub works just fine on Windows.
From my understanding, it is not USB PD compliant, but it does do some sort of testing of the connected power adapter to make sure it can output enough power. My guess is that some adapters get in the way of the full output of the connected wall wart. Which doesn't surprise me.
Hi, I've just received my new Cromecast with Google TV this.
Already I've managed to connect with this : https://www.amazon.de/-/nl/gp/product/B084G23KL5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Power I get from my LG OLED TV USB port via a simple USB-A to USB-C cable.
Routing: LG OLED USB port --> USB Hub --> Chromecast (connected via PD output of hub).
I am using a hub too. This one specifically, which has ethernet built in:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FX2LW35
It works fine, and it's powered by a 6 port USB-A charging station (otherwise I'd have too many charging bricks in one spot):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Q6DZBIQ
I haven't used the ethernet but I have other accessories connected, including a 400gb micro sd adopted as native storage. The more accessories you have connected to the hub, the more power you're going to want to have access to (ie the TV's USB port might not supply enough power).
Your guys' options are spendy. I got it done with this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08C5FWQND/
You can plug any old hub into it you have laying around and it'll (probably) work.
I bought this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Z7H3GJK/
It works fine with the google-supplied power brick plugged into the hub. Ethernet works as well, 1Gb (I think Google's adapter is only 100Mb) However, the activity light is Neuralyzer white. Also have seen reports that if you leave the hub powered and connected to your network without the chromecast, it will cause problems. Otherwise well built.
I bought this one $12.99
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01COH17PS/
There was a comment saying it works, arrives tomorrow.. I'll update post if it really works.
Update
It works, just not with the power adapter that comes with the Chromecast with Google TV. I had to use a different one.
This one also works with ethernet and sd card (and the default power supply):
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B08BNQLRTG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
robojerk said:
I bought this one $12.99
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01COH17PS/
There was a comment saying it works, arrives tomorrow.. I'll update post if it really works.
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Mine arrives tomorrow as well... Any update? Did you need to use a different power supply? I am guessing it may depend on what you have plugged in. I am planning on just using a single flash drive for expanded app storage. I already have a networked drive for media.
jhedfors said:
Mine arrives tomorrow as well... Any update? Did you need to use a different power supply? I am guessing it may depend on what you have plugged in. I am planning on just using a single flash drive for expanded app storage. I already have a networked drive for media.
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It works but the power adapter that came with the new Chromecast with Google TV didn't work. Once I swapped it out with a more powerful one we're all good.
96carboard said:
Its looking for a power supply capable of delivering 1.5A of current.
The CPU in the thing is a QUAD-core Cortex-A55. Specifically, Amlogic S905X3. That's a pretty substantial CPU, so I don't think that 1.5A is that much of overkill. If you look at other tv boxes with the same CPU, you'll also see that they typically include 2A power supplies. In order to ensure that the power supply is capable of this, they are enforcing USB-PD profile 1 compliance.
Now USB-PD requires digital communication between the device and the power supply. If your "OnePlus Dash Charger" is not compliant with USB-PD, or if your "simple powered OTG dongle" blocks the communications, then the TV dongle will assume that you have it plugged into a standard 500 mA power adapter and complain to you about it being insufficient.
Oh, and the SoC itself has a TDP of 5W (1A at 5V). Add a few more parts like RAM and UFS and you can easily draw more than that, plus, you always want your power supply to have some room to spare -- not run it at its limits. That clearly puts you into 1.5A *MINIMUM* territory.
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Hey there got got myself a usb hub for new chromecast too.
this hub
So far it works, but not the card readers.. Have to put the micro sd into an usb cardreader an plug it in the usb port of the hub to get the chromecast recognise the storage... Sucks yes
When booting i get this screen (dont know why upsidedown)
It will boot and behave normal, as long i dont attach any usb device.
It will also connect my microsoft bluetooth keyboard, which is pretty handy when you have to type something.
So i want to get an power supply that can provide enough power...
I dont know if its possible to overpower the chromecast and overheat, but i guess it is.
So do you think this
power supply
Would do the job?
Cheers
SchWeinSAuG said:
Hey there got got myself a usb hub for new chromecast too.
this hub
So far it works, but not the card readers.. Have to put the micro sd into an usb cardreader an plug it in the usb port of the hub to get the chromecast recognise the storage... Sucks yes
When booting i get this screen (dont know why upsidedown)
It will boot and behave normal, as long i dont attach any usb device.
It will also connect my microsoft bluetooth keyboard, which is pretty handy when you have to type something.
So i want to get an power supply that can provide enough power...
I dont know if its possible to overpower the chromecast and overheat, but i guess it is.
So do you think this
power supply
Would do the job?
Cheers
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Won't hurt it in any way, but seriously overkill. 60 watts is enough to run a laptop.
joooker16 said:
Hi, I've just received my new Cromecast with Google TV this.
Already I've managed to connect with this : https://www.amazon.de/-/nl/gp/product/B084G23KL5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Power I get from my LG OLED TV USB port via a simple USB-A to USB-C cable.
Routing: LG OLED USB port --> USB Hub --> Chromecast (connected via PD output of hub).
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Can you tell me if UNEEDE USB C Hub 8 in 1 works with default Chromecast power supply? Thanks
el_easy said:
Can you tell me if UNEEDE USB C Hub 8 in 1 works with default Chromecast power supply? Thanks
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Yes. As I understand, if it happens to work, you could risk damaging your devices.
jhedfors said:
Yes. As I understand, if it happens to work, you could risk damaging your devices.
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I asked ,because i ordered an ABLEWE USB C Hub 8 in 1 Typ C Hub and did not work : https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B07YZ4THMK/ref=pd_sbs_147_10?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07YZ4THMK&pd_rd_r=e2bc156d-56aa-4606-8dab-cdf0b3432474&pd_rd_w=3gzsc&pd_rd_wg=yDZuO&pf_rd_p=17269923-e95e-42b2-b8e1-f208b58f5815&pf_rd_r=87P69MVAPFG0JQEM0RN5&psc=1&refRID=87P69MVAPFG0JQEM0RN5
even with different power supply, thats why for my second try, Im very careful what to order.. if anyone can help to choose a proper USB C Hub that works with default Chromecast power supply from Amazon Germany , i will appreciated..Thanks
el_easy said:
I asked ,because i ordered an ABLEWE USB C Hub 8 in 1 Typ C Hub and did not work : https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B07YZ...FG0JQEM0RN5&psc=1&refRID=87P69MVAPFG0JQEM0RN5
even with different power supply, thats why for my second try, Im very careful what to order.. if anyone can help to choose a proper USB C Hub that works with default Chromecast power supply from Amazon Germany , i will appreciated..Thanks
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It is not recommended to use the Chromecast power adapter with a USB hub, as it does not provide enough power.
Find a more powerful adapter.
This is the hub that I am using in the US:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01COJ0MDY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
jhedfors said:
Yes. As I understand, if it happens to work, you could risk damaging your devices.
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You won't damage your device. Don't spread this kind of nonsense.
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el_easy said:
I asked ,because i ordered an ABLEWE USB C Hub 8 in 1 Typ C Hub and did not work even with different power supply, thats why for my second try, Im very careful what to order.. if anyone can help to choose a proper USB C Hub that works with default Chromecast power supply from Amazon Germany , i will appreciated..Thanks
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That should work. What are the details on the second power adapter you tried? The 1.5A adapter these CC's are shipped with are pretty marginal for the power demands. You probably want something that can feed 3A or more at 5V. And remember that Chinese labels are often lies, so even if it says 3A, it could be 0.5A.

Anker powerbank not charging my phone

Hy everyone! I have a weird problem: my Samsung S10 won't charge from my (new) Anker powerbank, although:
-the charging worked fine, but just once;
-the Anker powerbank CAN charge other phones;
-my S10 CAN charge from another powerbank (noname);
-I tried different cables, all the ports, same result;
-I cleared the USB cache from settings, but no result
-tried to reset the powerbank, same result.
Is there any way that I can still use my powerbank to charge my S10? What is causing this? Thank you!
It might be de to a specific protocol on the port? For example, USBC-PD is a protocol for power delivery that the receiving device must support... I don't think the S10 supports PD.
What's the model of the Anker charger?
schwinn8 said:
It might be de to a specific protocol on the port? For example, USBC-PD is a protocol for power delivery that the receiving device must support... I don't think the S10 supports PD.
What's the model of the Anker charger?
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Hy! The model is Anker Powercore III, 20 000 mAh. The weird thing is that yesterday it worked just fine. And I did not install any new apps (or updates) on the phone since then.
Ok, are you using the USB-A port for charging the S10, or are you trying to use the USBC port? USBA would work on the phone, C would likely not work.
Also, on some of my older phones, when a device was connected, the USB port would generate a popup asking how to handle the device... you may need to tell it to use it as a charge-only (versus a data connection like MTP or something)... it should know better, but maybe the phone is confused in some way.

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