I noticed Geekbench 4 Pro was free for a limited time on Play Store, so I downloaded it and ran a benchmark.
Device Status;
-OOS 5.0
-Stock Kernel
-Magisk 14.5 with IOS 11 Icons, and Greenify4Magisk
My Geekbench benchmarks were lower than the OnePlus 3! Any clue how this happened?
Why people give so much importance to benchmark ?
Now that this app told you these results, you gonna hate your phone ?
Live your life with your phone, what's matter the most is your experience, no the what a 3rd party application tells you.
Thats just a benchmark not a real world usage thing. If u believe something like that then xda is not for u. Only those who don't knkw abt xda would think that benchmark is everything
casual_kikoo said:
Why people give so much importance to benchmark ?
Now that this app told you these results, you gonna hate your phone ?
Live your life with your phone, what's matter the most is your experience, no the what a 3rd party application tells you.
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jokerpappu said:
Thats just a benchmark not a real world usage thing. If u believe something like that then xda is not for u. Only those who don't knkw abt xda would think that benchmark is everything
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First of all, hardware degradation exists. I'm not going to hate my phone just because it's benchmarks are low, I'd like to know WHY this occurs. THE TECHNICAL SIDES OF THIS ANOMALY. Yes, I know my experience is what matters to me, But I asked this question to understand why and how this happens. I didn't ask a solution for this did I?
Lmao, who're you to tell me XDA ain't for me? I asked a legitimate question in the "Q&A" section. I don't lose trust or faith in my device since my benchmarks are down, I wanted someone with the technical know-how to explain to me why the benchmarks differ from a less power SoC to a higher power SoC.
Clearly you're not someone who knows anything about why this happens, and stop wasting your time telling people your opinion of what you think benchmarks represent. I asked a legitimate question, and that's my right on XDA.
thes3usa said:
First of all, hardware degradation exists. I'm not going to hate my phone just because it's benchmarks are low, I'd like to know WHY this occurs. THE TECHNICAL SIDES OF THIS ANOMALY. Yes, I know my experience is what matters to me, But I asked this question to understand why and how this happens. I didn't ask a solution for this did I?
Lmao, who're you to tell me XDA ain't for me? I asked a legitimate question in the "Q&A" section. I don't lose trust or faith in my device since my benchmarks are down, I wanted someone with the technical know-how to explain to me why the benchmarks differ from a less power SoC to a higher power SoC.
Clearly you're not someone who knows anything about why this happens, and stop wasting your time telling people your opinion of what you think benchmarks represent. I asked a legitimate question, and that's my right on XDA.
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Ur daily usage performance is being degraded also?
Or is it just benchmark being decreased?
Look at my benchmark its much lower than urs. Bt its my phone is performing just like it used to besides this numbers also. Its about experience with the phone nkt numbers ok. So dont be all about benchmark
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Okay, another question that makes me feel kinda dumb.
How can I improve my N1's performance?
Specifically, how in the world do I get my nexus even close to the N1's I see on Linpack's "Top Devices"?
I'm running diet_2.6.33.2.hybrid_avs_925mv_OC with cyanogen 5.0.6. I can get 7.778 MFLOPS. Honestly, I don’t even know what that means. All I know is that I want more. Or do I? Does it even make that much of a difference in everyday usage?
I've noticed that in the JIT thread under development they talk about getting up to 17 MFLOPS, but no one really explains what JIT is or does. Just that it's unstable and that if your not sure what it is, you don't need it.
I can benchmarkPi in 2790 - how in the hell do I get it lower? Under the rom description of some of the top 50 they mention JIT and experimental kernels, but there's not much room for more than just the generic names of them. Where do I get these magical roms and kernels? Do I even want them? Are they so unstable that they can only be used to gain geek cred on some benchmark lists and once they hit the "high score" they explode in flames? Do I need safety goggles before I flash the update.zip?
Seriously though, I know I'm not the only one with these questions - so any info would help. And do me a favor, please do not respond to say that if I don't know - I don’t need to know. At one point, you didn't know either. No one was born with this knowledge.
I know there is a very bright person on here that is willing to take a couple of minutes to shed some light on us simpletons. I'd like to thank you in advance. Thanks.
Even if you get higher linpack scores, you will barely notice any difference in your devices performance... That's why I tend to ignore it. If its possible to get faster than Cyanogen ROMs (not in terms of linpack) I don't know how different things would be.. im curious about how quick Froyo is though.
Oh and have you searched, Jit has been covered in more places than just xda developers, several times it has been discussed I believe.. while using it, my Linpack scores did get into the double digits though - but this (not even that noticeable actually) speed increase was not worth the random reboots, and such. When Jit is stable though, it will be quite nice.. hopefully Froyo has it.
Linpack number did not make any differences in overall usage . Now, I am using my own UV kernel and setcpu max freq to 500MHz.. only... but, I still able to get 26.8 fps in Neocore's 3D benchmark. Playing games, 3D or not, still smooth and fluid.
I also waiting for Froyo and hope we can get even efficient and fast OS.
TQ.
Hey guys can anybody tell me what is this and how to validate its score..im bit confused.. is the score should be higher or lower?
Benchmarks are worthless unless you're comparing different phones.
Thanks for that, but which ROM will be gud..i own SGS international Mob. currently running Darky rom 9.3 beta
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Benchmarks are worthless unless you're comparing different phones.
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Huh? That's possibly the most incorrect statement I have EVER heard in regards to benchmarks.
Benchmarks are worthless, UNLESS you are optimising for a specific usage scenario. They also help when you have enough of them and are using profiling tools.
But as a performance tool, without seeing what they testing, they don't mean much. After all, as a user, you care about how well your overall phone runs, not a single application
Engadget has the first update:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-android-4-2-final-update-adds-lock-screen-w/
Doesn't look like much has changed that much so far...
Anandtech's review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review
Battery still meh if you are a heavy user, and benchmarks still affected by thermal throttling...it's hard to get a proper gauge though because the devices that the N4 is compared to change from graph to graph...I wish there was a consistent comparison with the LG Optimus G
+ve about the build quality and apparently it has been dropped a few times without issues...so could be not bad depending on how it's dropped. Running stock android is also another +
Will update thread with more links as they are posted.
Performance is good enough omg. We want better battery life. But once I have Cm10.1 on my N4 I'll uc the cpu so I have better battery life.
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There were so many posts, that low benchmark scores where because of not final software....
they were all wrong
I bet camera photo and video is still **** @ 9mbps 22FPS
Raw hardware specs do not simply cease to 'exist' because software benchmarks show certain numbers.
We know the specs of the device, the hardware in it is more powerful than the majority of the phones out there, calling this OTA conclusive is still flawed.
Wait a while, or have fun joining in on the XDA arguing that I see as still pointless. The HTC One X forums taught me a lot about benchmarks...
Audioboxer said:
Raw hardware specs do not simply cease to 'exist' because software benchmarks show certain numbers.
We know the specs of the device, the hardware in it is more powerful than the majority of the phones out there, calling this OTA conclusive is still flawed.
Wait a while, or have fun joining in on the XDA arguing that I see as still pointless. The HTC One X forums taught me a lot about benchmarks...
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The problem we're having is with the battery life, not the benchmarks. It's been proven that the poorer benchmark results are due to the CPU overheating and throttling down - which in turn gives it poor battery life - 5 hours video playback vs 8 hours on the Optimus G.
That's why people are dying over the new benchmark results, to see if it still throttles down or not.
Daemos said:
Engadget has the first update:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-android-4-2-final-update-adds-lock-screen-w/
Doesn't look like much has changed that much so far...
Will update thread with more links as they are posted.
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Still sucks ...
I think I will hold my purchase till got clarification what's the true story about this under-performed S4 pro compare to LG G9.
My GNex is still more than capable anyway.
omersak said:
The problem we're having is with the battery life, not the benchmarks. It's been proven that the poorer benchmark results are due to the CPU overheating and throttling down - which in turn gives it poor battery life - 5 hours video playback vs 8 hours on the Optimus G.
That's why people are dying over the new benchmark results, to see if it still throttles down or not.
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Agreed. Call it early indicator if you will. If the benchmarks shows abnormal activities compared to sibling LG Optimus G than we have a problem. It also possible that Engadget's N4 has thermal problems like Anandtech but they didn't put in the fridge to proved thermal problems since both websites early benchmarks are equally crap compared to The Verge.
omersak said:
The problem we're having is with the battery life, not the benchmarks. It's been proven that the poorer benchmark results are due to the CPU overheating and throttling down - which in turn gives it poor battery life - 5 hours video playback vs 8 hours on the Optimus G.
That's why people are dying over the new benchmark results, to see if it still throttles down or not.
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I hear what you're saying, but no other phone runs 4.2 from Google does it? I'd wait till later this week when we have many rooted devices, custom ROMS/kernels and what not.
The software HTC shipped the One X running on was an unoptimized mess (which also had heat issues).
The people storming around shouting conclusive and saying the phone has hardware issues only serve to make people fearful at this stage where it is too early to be conclusive of any hardware issues. Software issues will be aplenty on a launch of new hardware.
Audioboxer said:
Raw hardware specs do not simply cease to 'exist' because software benchmarks show certain numbers.
We know the specs of the device, the hardware in it is more powerful than the majority of the phones out there, calling this OTA conclusive is still flawed.
Wait a while, or have fun joining in on the XDA arguing that I see as still pointless. The HTC One X forums taught me a lot about benchmarks...
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But there is a problem if the performance in benchmarks does not add up to what the 'specs' say.
It's like building two identical computers, put one in a different case...one running windows vista and say one running windows 8...
If the hardware is identical, the benchmarks should be VERY similar, if not there is something wrong with the build, hardware, drivers, software etc...and it is not working to it's potential.
This is quite alarming. Agreed with everyone that something is wrong. That's a huge difference: 4984 vs 7628. This might potentially make me wait to see if this some kind of bug. I mean in all seriousness, if I have the same hardware I would like it to perform the same. Google won't admit any wrong doing here either....that's good for ya. Let's hope they see the issue and try to find a fix.
Ugh. What a way to start my day....
new 3,4 kernel guys...give to google some times to fix that.
Well I just ordered one because I'm not really bothered by benchmarks. This is the first phone running on 4.2 and it's powerful enough as it is.
One thing I will point out is (from what I've seen) the N4 beats the Optimus G consistently in Geekbench 2 posting scores of over 2000. We need to ignore the browser benchmarks as chrome is not as well optimised as the old stock browser on Android.
We need to wait and see how the phone matures in time, I don't think there is a hardware issue here everyone is panicking over 2 phones that don't quite match each other...I know if my N4 goes wrong due to some unknown issue I know I can get a new one sent to me from Play so it's not really something that is going to bothering me.
Anyway, who buys their phone on benchmarks?! Are you benching it 24/7? No, so what's the need for you to see how a phone performs in tasks that you would never ever ask it to do in real world situations...
Came across this site:
lwn.net/Articles/524631/rss
(Guess I can't post direct links for now)
Can anyone explain what this CPU isolation actually means and how it translates to actual performance and benchmark scores?
iluk3 said:
Well I just ordered one because I'm not really bothered by benchmarks. This is the first phone running on 4.2 and it's powerful enough as it is.
One thing I will point out is (from what I've seen) the N4 beats the Optimus G consistently in Geekbench 2 posting scores of over 2000. We need to ignore the browser benchmarks as chrome is not as well optimised as the old stock browser on Android.
We need to wait and see how the phone matures in time, I don't think there is a hardware issue here everyone is panicking over 2 phones that don't quite match each other...I know if my N4 goes wrong due to some unknown issue I know I can get a new one sent to me from Play so it's not really something that is going to bothering me.
Anyway, who buys their phone on benchmarks?! Are you benching it 24/7? No, so what's the need for you to see how a phone performs in tasks that you would never ever ask it to do in real world situations...
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Not the benchmark score itself, but the "battery life" ... N4 is worse compared to LG OG, 5 hours video run-down vs 8 hours.
That's what worries me ...
NODO-GT said:
There were so many posts, that low benchmark scores where because of not final software....
they were all wrong
I bet camera photo and video is still **** @ 9mbps 22FPS
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And we are still not at final software. It will be multiple OTAs before we are at final software.
So, there's that.
I believe its a kernel problem. And also, why are you all comparing a jellybean ROM with a new kernel with an ICS one? That's not a really fair comparison in my eyes. That's just my opinion though
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gogol said:
Not the benchmark score itself, but the "battery life" ... N4 is worse compared to LG OG, 5 hours video run-down vs 8 hours.
That's what worries me ...
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ips vs amoled
people hate on amoled but I'll take the battery life..
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ips vs amoled
people hate on amoled but I'll take the battery life..
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Doesn't the Optimus G have same screen as N4?
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0.0 said:
I believe its a kernel problem. And also, why are you all comparing a jellybean ROM with a new kernel with an ICS one? That's not a really fair comparison in my eyes. That's just my opinion though
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More of a fact than an opinion :good:
I thought Optimus G has a IPS screen. Same one in the N4
Hello.
Anybody know how to OC ALE-L21?
I need custom kernel? How much?
I have a stupid mate, and I need to show him a lot of numbers in antutu... I'm not 12y boy Men's pride, you know
Well, i'm not a specialist but i would say that you can't get much bigger numbers on AnTuTu. And if you could it would make system unstable and heat alot and make much bigger power consume.
Vika__ said:
Well, i'm not a specialist but i would say that you can't get much bigger numbers on AnTuTu. And if you could it would make system unstable and heat alot and make much bigger power consume.
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I know that. But idk about it. I need it for 20 mins and I don't want to damage it. :/
If you have 6.0, tell him let's fight in a speed test, screw AnTuTu....real scenario performance only
The Huawei system is hardly to mod, it's why we are poor in development projects
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it's reported that on a test on the 3T it was discovered that OnePlus now targets benchmark apps by name so it scores higher , that's not good to be honest, the device is solid and rational users don't need this, I admit it's nice to test and see your device high up the ranking but only when it's done organically ,
that said this appears to only be introduced on the N Roms (including betas)!
https://www.xda-developers.com/benc...ght-red-handed-and-what-theyve-done-about-it/
im on oneplus 3 so i dont really care.
Still a great phone..
Lots of phones cheat on benchmarks. Not really new
timrock7 said:
im on oneplus 3 so i dont really care.
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it's a software thing not a device thing, the N rom has the "feature" so it affects both 3 and 3T...
not saying the phone is bad, i love, i'm saying it's not needed... some companies did so in the past, but it's now over so why do it, the OnePlus brand in general wasn't built on Benchmarks.
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it's reported that on a test on the 3T it was discovered that OnePlus now targets benchmark apps by name so it scores higher , that's not good to be honest, the device is solid and rational users don't need this, I admit it's nice to test and see your device high up the ranking but only when it's done organically ,
that said this appears to only be introduced on the N Roms (including betas)!
https://www.xda-developers.com/benc...ght-red-handed-and-what-theyve-done-about-it/
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403 error when i click that link
Yeah just read the article I was annoyed that oneplus would be involved In something so stupid when this phone is an awesome device, I don't see what they would have achieved from even doing that.
People do this all the time themselves. It's the same as "intelligent" profiles that switch depending on application and load.
If this happens for games then whats the big deal? People say it should work for all apps but i dont want my cpu going through battery just because I have my clock app open. Sure there should be a setting for it but still they see this app as a power hungry app so they give it juice, any other app which doesn't need this power just doesn't need it.
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403 error when i click that link
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https://www.xda-developers.com/benc...ght-red-handed-and-what-theyve-done-about-it/
nevermorenorless said:
If this happens for games then whats the big deal? People say it should work for all apps but i dont want my cpu going through battery just because I have my clock app open. Sure there should be a setting for it but still they see this app as a power hungry app so they give it juice, any other app which doesn't need this power just doesn't need it.
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The difference in performance is very small with these cheating tweaks. Personally I don't really care about the cheating at all, I love this phone and it's features and performance.
I haven't installed a benchmark app in years and not about to do it now. I'm only interested in real world performance.
This is one reason why people don't trust Benchmark scores.
People put way too much importance on benchmarks anyway... They are largely meaningless, but you see dozens of threads of people trying to tweak kernels and all sorts of stuff, to get an arbitrary score in a meaningless app because they think it gives them bragging rights.
Benchmarks are for kids. Real world results are for adults.
Check out op's explanation on that
Seriously? What about i-creap? How can that i-**** could be nr.1 in benchmark?!?
If our devices are effectively overclocking to achieve better benchmarks, sooner or later the OS will have to turned down the SoC as the temperatures will get too high if the benchmark is ran over and over again.
If you want to know the true benchmark of your OP3, I suggest running it over and over.
is this thread necessary?
lel for this type of discussion.