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recently my camera failed and the x1 went back to Sony, I've now had an email saying the phone is unrepairable and I have to pay £10 to have it returned unfixed.
I called them up and they say the mainboard is bent and not covered under warranty. The case is perfect, the screen is perfect and the phone has never been dropped etc.. They said this can happen even when the phone is in a pocket or bag but classed as accidental damage so not covered. They also said it's not a replacement part and I would need to buy a whole new phone, even if I was happy to pay for repair myself.
Is this right? Do they have to prove it was dropped? Is there no way of getting this fixed even if it costs me? Who can I complain to about this?
Thanks for any advice you can give..........
What country do you live in? And has this issue happened within 6 months?
If in the UK, you may be covered by 'The Sale of Goods Act 1979' if you believe the phone was not of satisfactory quality (plus a few others reasons). However as far as I know, this would protect you from the seller, not SE.
Put simply, goods are expected to last a reasonable amount of time within normal usage (which i would argue means keeping within your pocket). If it breaks within 6 months, it is the sellers responsibility to prove that it was fit for use at the time it was sold (very hard for them to do if others are working fine). After 6 months you have another 5.5 years (4.5 years in Scotland) where you are still protected but it your responsibility to prove the goods were unfit at the time of sale.
Might be worth a shot. Info can be found on the website for BBCs Watchdog TV program: http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/consumer_advice/consumer_law_sale_of_goods_emp.shtml
thanks for that, unfortunately i've had it for about 9 months so SOGA won't be easy for me to prove. I just cant get how they say it has been damaged by me, there's no signs of dropping, the phone is absolutely mint! I'm very mad indeed
the same thing has just happened to me with vodafone in the uk.
phone was sent back to the service centre as some of the keys on the right-hand side of the keyboard were working intermittantly which i believe is a common issue.
the phone was returned to me with a blurry picture of what may or may not be the inside of my phone saying that the phone had been damaged and was not covered by warranty. my phone has never been dropped and has been very well take care of. :-(
I have asked that they escalate my complaint and I'll be getting a call back tomorrow but I don't hold out too much hope. Not quite sure what too do after that but I wont stop there, considering the cost of the phone originally it's taking the p***
sounds shocking. Good luck mate and what country are you in?
I have just picked my phone up from an o2 store after sending it off for repair, the keys only worked intermittently (as previously posted) along with a few other issues. I received t.he handset back with a "Beyond Economical Repair" diagnosis, claiming that i had somehow bent and cracked the motherboard due to physical damage. I had to instead claim from o2 insurance costing me £25. I think in the future its much better to contact Sony Ericsson directly.
I'm in the UK and today had a call back from the escalations team who just confirmed what I was told yesterday, basically bent board, not our problem, buy a new one. They will send it back for free though which I'm supposed to be grateful for.
I'm now going to take it to their director of support, when you look at the 1000+ posts about the cracks and another 2 replies in this thread about the 'bent mainboard' the manufacture of this phone is questionable to say the least and goes a long way to prove the sale of goods act 'unfit for purpose' rule. I'm happy to take this to civil court if needs be........I'm a principals man and I'm seriously pi**ed...
Can you send it back to Sony? Sony repaired my damaged screen/cracked casing for free in about 7 days
i think it depends on country, in my they even charge me changin the case, becouse "they didnt get any input about cracks in case". i show them xda thread with numeros complaining and no luck, had to pay...
I recently sent the phone back to change the keyboard and upgrading of firmware. I had to wait 3 weeks for a keyboard cos they went out of stock for it.
They even changed my cover that had some scratches without even me asking. Also the D-pad was changed cos of some peeling.
I thought that they gave me a reburbished set so I checked the IMEI, its ok. They even offered me an extended warranty program where I pay around 70SGD and it covers even accessories like headphones and such for a one-to-one exchange scheme.
This is SE Singapore Support.
Gap between the aluminum housing and plastic.
Can send to HTC?
There are various posts on here about this.
Some examples are ok, without a gap whilst others have been less fortunate.
If it bothers you then get in touch with the place you bought it from and request an exchange
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Ahh that looks nasty.
Like the above poster, do go and get it exchanged if you're within your exchange time frame. Will be much faster than sending it to HTC. Just tell them it's a manufacturer's defect and you want to exchange your unit for the same model, just one without defects.
Common problem, but yours is one of the worst cases :S
You can try to clamp the speakers down and it should -- theoretically -- seal the gap. Maybe heat it with a hair dryer on high about 4 inches away only over the problem area (while having your phone covered by something to protect it like a towel). Some users managed to seal the gap with just a case!
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Reply from HTC:
Thank you for your email regarding your HTC One.
My name is Ryan and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.
I am sorry that your device is not in a perfect condition at this time. If you require a replacement we suggest contacting the retailer who sold the device to you or if you are happy for us to repair the phone please continue with this email.
I would like to arrange for your phone to be repaired in our UK Repair Centre. Please read the following instructions carefully. By proceeding with the repair you agree to the terms and conditions of the repair service.
During repair, we will install the latest software as part of the diagnosis and testing phase. All the data from the phone will be lost, except for data stored on the SD card, SIM card, or online services, if applicable. If this is possible please check our online Help pages on how to backup your data.
Do not send the SD Memory Card, SIM Card, Battery, Back covers and other accessory items included or not in the product's box. All we need is the bare device. We can’t be held liable for any of these being sent in as they won’t be returned.
Package the device as you would like to receive it. In a good strong box with plenty of padding. You can use the original box, but it will not be returned to you. This information overrules the one in the repair tick-sheet instructions.
Should our engineers find any physical damage, wear and tear, illegal software, illegal repair attempts or your warranty has expired, the repair will be chargeable and we will send you a quote via email.
You are under no obligation to accept the quote and if you decline, there will be an approximate £25 diagnosis, shipping and handling fee to have the device returned to you unrepaired.
If the device is within warranty period and the fault is covered then there will be no cost to yourself.
Liquid-damaged devices are returned immediately, unrepaired and without charge as they are classed as beyond economic repair.
If you are within your warranty period and the fault is covered there will be no cost to yourself.
Repairs will take approximately 7 working days from when it arrives at the HTC Repair Centre and it's subject to parts availability.
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Final reply from HTC:
Thank you for replying.
We have acknowledged the gap maybe a manufacturing defect and we have offered a repair service for you. As we have not attempted any repairs on your device we are simply unable to replace the phone, this was why I suggested contacting the retailer to have them replace it.
The gap at the top of you device can be rectified in our repair centre and we will ensure it is returned back to you in perfect working condition.
To let me know I have successfully answered your query, please follow the link below to close your enquiry, you will have the opportunity to leave feedback about your experience contacting me today.
Sincerely,
Ryan
HTC
I recently returned an S3 gt-i9300 to Vodafone as it has died completely.
Vodafone returned it citing 'water damage'. On advice from the vodafone forum, I returned it to Samsung (I was stupid and honest explaining what vodafone had said the problem to be). Samsung have said the same 'water damage', I asked them to send me pictures of the water damage which I have attached to this post...as Samsung had told me that the warranty was void...I took it to a local repair shop who deals in fixing phones (a good one who offers no fix no fee). The repair shop said they saw no evidence of water damage, none of the moisture stips on the pcb have been triggered. I didn't get the phone wet, It was not dropped in water etc so I am now left with a brick of a phone and no idea how to move forward.
Looking at the pictures its easy to say yes water damage but look at the size of the damage? it's mm, my point is that the phone never got soaked etc... even samsung said their stance was that water damage can happen even by moisture in the air or sweat !!... so is it reasonable to refuse to repair a phone that cannot cope with moisture in the air ?
Please could I have some constructive advice ? I am happy to answer questions should you want to know any specific information.
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I recently returned an S3 gt-i9300 to Vodafone as it has died completely.
Vodafone returned it citing 'water damage'. On advice from the vodafone forum, I returned it to Samsung (I was stupid and honest explaining what vodafone had said the problem to be). Samsung have said the same 'water damage', I asked them to send me pictures of the water damage which I have attached to this post...as Samsung had told me that the warranty was void...I took it to a local repair shop who deals in fixing phones (a good one who offers no fix no fee). The repair shop said they saw no evidence of water damage, none of the moisture stips on the pcb have been triggered. I didn't get the phone wet, It was not dropped in water etc so I am now left with a brick of a phone and no idea how to move forward.
Looking at the pictures its easy to say yes water damage but look at the size of the damage? it's mm, my point is that the phone never got soaked etc... even samsung said their stance was that water damage can happen even by moisture in the air or sweat !!... so is it reasonable to refuse to repair a phone that cannot cope with moisture in the air ?
Please could I have some constructive advice ? I am happy to answer questions should you want to know any specific information.
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Below is a copy of the letter I have sent Samsung.
Reference 4138232318 IMEI
Message *As you will see by the notes on your system, you returned a phone to me as it was no longer covered by your warranty due to _quotwater ingress_quot.
I have had the phone looked at by an independent repairer (you did say the warranty was no longer in effect so him opening it up should not affect anything).
Inside the phone all of the moisture strips are intact and not triggered and what you have photographed as evidence of water damage is in fact solder damage not _quotwater ingress_quot. There is no evidence of _quotwater ingress_quot on any other part of the phone. Additionally the _quotwater damage_quot you refer to is not near any point in which water would have been able to get in the phone. The _quotdamage_quot if that is what you can refer to it as is less than 1mm in diameter..... this is not evidence of this phone being submerged or come into contact with any quantity of water.
Your adviser told me that water damage can occur due to humidity or even sweat. I am not willing to accept that this phone cannot tolerate being in a humid environment and I can assure you that given our glorious weather lately and the fact I have not traveled abroad as I don''t have a passport.....How can this happen... unless Samsung are saying that I sweat too much to own an S3 ? I would be very careful how you answer that one.
Presently I am asking to put in a formal complaint which is the purpose of this email and I am requesting that you escalate this as per your procedures set for such circumstances. Failure to do so will result in me instigating procedures with the small claims court / trading standards.
As a satisfactory outcome I expect you to repair the phone, nothing more. As the manufacturer / retail partner for this item the onus is on you to prove that this fault was not there when I purchased it. I believe it was and I am not willing to write of £300+ on a phone due to a manufacturing fault.
I await your prompt reply.
Nigel Courtney.
You do realize this is Xperia Z forum??
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xchasa said:
You do realize this is Xperia Z forum??
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I am a total and utter tool... I will re-post.
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I am a total and utter tool... I will re-post.
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I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet, but didn't find it in a forum search. There is a class action lawsuit that has been filed regarding the Note 4 eMMC failure. Here's the link for more info and to inquire about your claim:
http://www.classlawdc.com/2017/04/25/investigation-samsung-galaxy-note-4-mmc_read-failed-defect/
I posted that in the eMMC Read Fail topic about a month ago but for sure it needs to be out in the open like this! Its good to note that at the moment its only being looked into by these Lawyers in the US. I contacted them but they said they were not working with anyone in Canada at the moment, So I'm SOL for this
I live in Canada as well and I have filed an official complaint with the BBB Better Business Bureau against Samsung Electronics Canada. If you are interested in following the same approach make sure you file a complaint not a review because you can't do both, and a complaint if accepted by the BBB is forwarded to Samsung Electronics Canada from the BBB on your behalf to seek a resolution. Samsung only after being contacted by the BBB is now trying to work out a resolution with me to fix my Note 4 but I have been asking Samsung at many different levels and occasions to do that with no success only being quoted "Out of Warranty Policy". At least now they are trying to resolve my problem. It shouldn't have taken this much time and frustration as it has since I have been without a working Note 4 since the day in mid May when an OTA android update issued from my carrier triggered an instant unrecoverable hardware malfunction in my phone. As well I also sent a note to CBC Marketplace informing them of a possible story concerning Note 4 owners having this problem and letting them know that there was a lawsuit launched in the US concerning the very same issue and wondering if they could help inform other Canadians and provide awareness of the issue so ALL Canadian Note 4 owners with problem-ed devices could be heard so loudly that Samsung Electronics Canada would listen. I encourage any other Canadian Note 4 owners to do the same. The Galaxy Note 4 when it was working was truly a remarkable device and it is sad that it died way too soon.
But this issue plagues the Note 2 as well. Though I reckon that model is a bit older. I wonder how long my phone will last, I already have random reboots and the sound sometimes stutters if I play music with Spotify (SM-n910c.) GPS can be also spotty from time to time.
Quality 700$+ phone.
Canada
Just sent in my BBB complaint as well to Sam Canada. Did you hear back from them? I was quoted a $400+ repair bill (which I declined). Frankly I’m not keen on finding a used eMMC/motherboard and repairing it myself, only to have the issue happen all over again.
how do i know if this will affect my Note 4? or does it affect all note 4? My phone was made and pruchased in 2017 so i still have warranty.
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/22154208/BETURE_et_al_v_SAMSUNG_ELECTRONICS_AMERICA
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My N910F has unfortunately developed all the signs and symptoms of the widely reported of eMMC failure a couple of weeks ago. As it is still under Samsung's UK 2 year warranty, my faulty phone to be picked up and sent for inspection to one of their approved repair centres (A NOVO) . Subsequently, the phone back was sent back quickly to me unrepaired and with an attached (standard looking template) letter stating that your engineer has tested my device and found that it is not working because "it has been subjected to SEVERE physical damage internally" and that physical damage is not covered by the manufacturer's warranty.
As I am 100% satisfied that my phone is in pristine physical condition and has been very well looked after with 2 covering cases all the time as well as a screen protector and has never been subjected to drops, liquid exposure or any other physical damage, I have asked Samsung to send me the detailed engineer report as to the nature of the fault found. I am intending on getting an independent assessment of the phone and will aim to produce an independent report on the fault with a view on taking this further with trading standards or other consumer protection agencies. Samsung have been extremely evasive and very uncooperative and have asked me to contact the service centre directly to discuss the issue with their 'engineer'. I cannot in reality understand how this would help resolve my problem as their engineers will very likey just perpetuate the same lies that they had come up with previously in their letter to me.
I will try and get in touch with the service centre and see what they would come up with but I am not holding much hope and was looking to see if anyone who might have been in a similar position might have any suggestions as how to proceed with trying to get Samsung to take responsibility. Needles to say, no more Samsung for me in any way in the future.
lewis.james.750983 said:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/22154208/BETURE_et_al_v_SAMSUNG_ELECTRONICS_AMERICA
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Status for dummies update? I can't find a place toto buy brand new motherboards anywhere and used ones are $50 with no guarantees if they're not going to have the same issue...all while I'm stuck using my slowass Note 2 and refuse to goto a 5 or higher since they don't have removable batteries.
Samsung keeps letting innocent customers down with its faulty hardware...
immabum said:
Just sent in my BBB complaint as well to Sam Canada. Did you hear back from them? I was quoted a $400+ repair bill (which I declined). Frankly I’m not keen on finding a used eMMC/motherboard and repairing it myself, only to have the issue happen all over again.
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I did eventually get an offer via email routed through the BBB from Samsung Canada and they offered a one-time out of warranty repair for my device. (Don't get too excited there's more to the story.) I repeatedly being very polite asked them to contact me directly by phone because I had some concerns about there offer and all I asked was for a phone conversation for the "Senior Computer Service for Canada Rep" to reassure me that my device would be repaired without cost to me but they would never even consider my request and simply reply back with an abrupt somewhat ignorant responses like I was asking for something like the moon. Long story short I had a slight sign of Liquid Damage on my devices LD sticker and I was being incredibly honest that this had occurred over a several month period having to chill my device in the freezer on a regular basis to get it to boot this caused condensation which was shown on one corner of the LD sticker. This would not have happened if Samsung Canada had offered the repair 4 months prior when I initially started having problems with the device. So through no fault of my own trying to use a failing product Samsung Canada found a way to WEASEL out by using my own jerry-rigged hardship with their faulty hardware against me. If I had sent my phone into an authorized repair center and they found LD on my phone I would have had to pay for shipping costs to and from the center as well as an assessment fee and my device would be held ransom until I paid up. Goodness knows how much that would have cost me. I will hang on to my busted device in case the class action in the US is won and might extend therefore into Canada. I could even sell my Note 4 on eBay for parts because everything else besides the motherboard is absolutely pristine.
Samsung Canada had a perfect chance to help a polite loyal customer but they chose not to. I have had the same sort of things happen with Apple products in the past and "Oh Boy" did they treat me differently, with dignity and respect and they went out of their way to help me but Samsung Canada did the exact opposite. I think this is done because they know its a genuine hardware defect and if they help their customers out it would be the same as admitting they are guilty of selling poorly designed products and then be on the hook a open up a large amount of liability for the company.
Either way though us poor customers who have been burned by this company will not simply lie down and be quiet the internet is a great place to expose companies when they screw up a product and leave customers hanging.
I hope someone else has better luck dealing with Samsung than I did. The strange thing is for a brief moment when they first said they would fix my device I actually thought they were going to come thru but the end result stung much more when they didn't. Samsung Canada you blew it!!!!!!
Aiadi said:
My N910F has unfortunately developed all the signs and symptoms of the widely reported of eMMC failure a couple of weeks ago. As it is still under Samsung's UK 2 year warranty, my faulty phone to be picked up and sent for inspection to one of their approved repair centres (A NOVO) . Subsequently, the phone back was sent back quickly to me unrepaired and with an attached (standard looking template) letter stating that your engineer has tested my device and found that it is not working because "it has been subjected to SEVERE physical damage internally" and that physical damage is not covered by the manufacturer's warranty.
As I am 100% satisfied that my phone is in pristine physical condition and has been very well looked after with 2 covering cases all the time as well as a screen protector and has never been subjected to drops, liquid exposure or any other physical damage, I have asked Samsung to send me the detailed engineer report as to the nature of the fault found. I am intending on getting an independent assessment of the phone and will aim to produce an independent report on the fault with a view on taking this further with trading standards or other consumer protection agencies. Samsung have been extremely evasive and very uncooperative and have asked me to contact the service centre directly to discuss the issue with their 'engineer'. I cannot in reality understand how this would help resolve my problem as their engineers will very likey just perpetuate the same lies that they had come up with previously in their letter to me.
I will try and get in touch with the service centre and see what they would come up with but I am not holding much hope and was looking to see if anyone who might have been in a similar position might have any suggestions as how to proceed with trying to get Samsung to take responsibility. Needles to say, no more Samsung for me in any way in the future.
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An update on my situation: After all the hassle that I have had from Samsung and their customer service, I contacted Amazon UK from whom I purchased the phone. They have very kindly offered to take my phone for repair through their approved repair centre which has managed to identify the fault with the printed circuit board and replaced the faulty circuit board with the phone returned to me today in full working order again and without any charges incurred by myself. Needless to say "Shamesung" offered no explanation as to how Amazon's repair centre has been able to do what their own engineers could not manage and could not explain the lies on their engineer's report about my phone being subjected to severe physical/liquid damage when Amazon's report clearly identified motherboard failure and replacement.
I cannot praise Amazon highly enough for the steps they have taken to solve my problem and although I am happy to have my phone back, I have decided not to purchase any other product manufactured by Shamesung whatsoever and will do my best to dissuade anyone I know from making the same mistake.
immabum said:
Just sent in my BBB complaint as well to Sam Canada. Did you hear back from them? I was quoted a $400+ repair bill (which I declined). Frankly I’m not keen on finding a used eMMC/motherboard and repairing it myself, only to have the issue happen all over again.
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Just wanted to comment, that it was a pain in the ass, but I did report through the BBB in Canada -and I got the repair done for free. In my complaint to the BBB, I mentioned the fact that it wasn't an isolated issue and made reference to the class action law suit in the US. Samsung asked for a lot of documentation, had my phone at one of their stores and refused to ship it to their service center. Then they cancelled the repair offer because of it sitting at THEIR own store, the one I paid a $35 shipping fee. Their customer service guy Robert emailed me saying that he would take care of it, but in the end didn't and stopped replying to my emails. I sent in my phone anyways seeing as it was a lemon. 3 months after this process was started, I finally got my phone back -fixed. I ended up giving it to my dad anyways *he had no ideas the pain I went through haha* Hope you guys get your repairs done for free as well!
Aiadi
Good you got it sorted. I just became aware of this problem, so I'll keep an eye on it.
It's worth for UK members to keep in mind the "Fit for purpose clause" that is still valid if the device is out of warranty. An extract below:
"Six months or more
If a fault develops after the first six months, the burden is on you to prove that the product was faulty at the time of delivery.
In practice, this may require some form of expert report, opinion or evidence of similar problems across the product range.
Find out more about how to return a faulty item and claim a refund, repair or replacement from a retailer.
You have six years to take a claim to the small claims court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and five years in Scotland.
This doesn't mean that a product has to last six years - just that you have this length of time in which to make a claim if a retailer refuses to repair or replace a faulty product. "
https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act
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Wadadli said:
Aiadi
Good you got it sorted. I just became aware of this problem, so I'll keep an eye on it.
It's worth for UK members to keep in mind the "Fit for purpose clause" that is still valid if the device is out of warranty. An extract below:
"Six months or more
If a fault develops after the first six months, the burden is on you to prove that the product was faulty at the time of delivery.
In practice, this may require some form of expert report, opinion or evidence of similar problems across the product range.
Find out more about how to return a faulty item and claim a refund, repair or replacement from a retailer.
You have six years to take a claim to the small claims court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and five years in Scotland.
This doesn't mean that a product has to last six years - just that you have this length of time in which to make a claim if a retailer refuses to repair or replace a faulty product. "
https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act
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Many thanks indeed Wadadli. I know there is quite a bit of customer protection but the difficulty was to establish what the fault was with the phone with the situation being "my word against Samsung's". I hope no one else falls into this.
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I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet, but didn't find it in a forum search. There is a class action lawsuit that has been filed regarding the Note 4 eMMC failure. Here's the link for more info and to inquire about your claim:
http://www.classlawdc.com/2017/04/25/investigation-samsung-galaxy-note-4-mmc_read-failed-defect/
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I contacted this Law Firm mentioning I am having same issue and they asked me if I can submit the details using below form. You can add this to thread if anyone else wants to contact them.
https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=M1Awu4pX0ky56HfvNeJmB2eE_TkEyrJIjTBCKPN74zBUOEdNSVRDNkhXRFpTNzBRTTNMWkM5SUtNMi4u
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My AT&T Note 4 first failed in Jan 2017 after Security Patch OTA update and I started getting eMMC Read Failed errors, frequent reboots etc. I contacted Samsung but they gave the same warranty BS. After several back on forth on twitter they agreed to have a look at it for free and provide quote with repair. I sent in the device and I never got contacted by them and device was returned to me after a weeks time with a letter showing screen issue and replacement charge of $70. I raised this with them saying I never got call and again they asked me to send the device back and this was repeated two more times. Fourth time I called them and they agreed to repair it for free. I also sent email to Samsung President Office (did receive call back from them). This time they replaced PBA, Scratched screen and body. Finally I have my Note 4 working without any issues but I lost about an year. Glad I had a backup device.
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I contacted this Law Firm mentioning I am having same issue and they asked me if I can submit the details using below form. You can add this to thread if anyone else wants to contact them.
https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=M1Awu4pX0ky56HfvNeJmB2eE_TkEyrJIjTBCKPN74zBUOEdNSVRDNkhXRFpTNzBRTTNMWkM5SUtNMi4u
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My AT&T Note 4 first failed in Jan 2017 after Security Patch OTA update and I started getting eMMC Read Failed errors, frequent reboots etc. I contacted Samsung but they gave the same warranty BS. After several back on forth on twitter they agreed to have a look at it for free and provide quote with repair. I sent in the device and I never got contacted by them and device was returned to me after a weeks time with a letter showing screen issue and replacement charge of $70. I raised this with them saying I never got call and again they asked me to send the device back and this was repeated two more times. Fourth time I called them and they agreed to repair it for free. I also sent email to Samsung President Office (did receive call back from them). This time they replaced PBA, Scratched screen and body. Finally I have my Note 4 working without any issues but I lost about an year. Glad I had a backup device.
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Care to share Samsung CEO's email with us as I would like to email them a piece of my mind?
Sure here u go Officeofpresident (at) sea dot samsung dot com
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Sure here u go Officeofpresident (at) sea dot samsung dot com
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Many thanks indeed. Email sent.....
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Many thanks indeed. Email sent.....
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Any answer?
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Qualcomm s805 so hot when run, easy die nand like lg g4. Exynos version is better.
Hi there,
I've recently bought the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G ( SM-G781B) and I've noticed part of the display is cloudy/distorted when black.
It's most noticeable on the lock screen, or whenever the background is black.
It looks like some sort of defect. Does anyone have any ideas?
I noticed some cloudiness (to a lesser degree) on my Samsung Galaxy S8.
I bought the S20 FE brand new from Samsung.
I've attached some images for reference.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
If you just bought it, what's the point of making a thread? Just bring it back to the shop and show defect.
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If you just bought it, what's the point of making a thread? Just bring it back to the shop and show defect.
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Because a similar effect happened on the S8 so not sure if it's just Samsung displays or something else. Mostly visible when the room is dark so it's hard to show when the room is lit.
This is the lottery of OLED screens. Some are perfect and some are (defective) like this.
Mine has a uniformity issue, too. It's only visible in low brightness dark gray when in a dark room, so I decided to keep mine. I've seen similar issues in other oled panels of Galaxy and Pixel phones as well before. There is no guarantee you get a better panel for a replacement as mentioned in the comment above. If the un-uniformity is too bad, I would just return it and get another one because I heard Samsung is tough on exchange or repair for this kind of display issue.
tkshk said:
There is no guarantee you get a better panel for a replacement as mentioned in the comment above. If the un-uniformity is too bad, I would just return it and get another one because I heard Samsung is tough on exchange or repair for this kind of display issue.
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Is it possible to get a replacement (UK) if the phone is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked?
My fear is that if I don't get it repaired/replaced, it may get worse over time, and then I'm stuck with it.
Not sure about the exchange policy in the UK. The display uniformity didn't get worse over time in my old phones.
Only problem is the Samsung stores are closed in the UK at the moment.
user128494 said:
Is it possible to get a replacement (UK) if the phone is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked?
My fear is that if I don't get it repaired/replaced, it may get worse over time, and then I'm stuck with it.
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EU law set a president years ago that even if the phone is rooted Samsung have to honor the hardware warranty. But if your that worried back up your data and flash the stock rom back to the phone via ODIN before you send it off to Samsung. Clearly there is something wring with the display on your unit.
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There is no guarantee you get a better panel for a replacement as mentioned in the comment above. If the un-uniformity is too bad
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The issue is the S20FE has an AMOLED screen so there is NO backlight, you should not being seeing any kind of 'glow' on put black backgrounds. Also my S20FE 5G shows no such defect.
b1k3rdude said:
EU law set a president years ago that even if the phone is rooted Samsung have to honor the hardware warranty. But if your that worried back up your data and flash the stock rom back to the phone via ODIN before you send it off to Samsung. Clearly there is something wring with the display on your unit.
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The problem is, if I do send it off, they may just reject replacement of the item, as in download mode it says Warranty Void: 0x01
On the Samsung Forum a Samsung Mod talks about the warranty being voided in a similar thing:
Re: S10e flashing and warranty question.
So you're saying that by using Samsung's official firmware and tool I voided my warranty? Even tho I never rooted my phone or modified it in any way. I've mot installed any custom roms or anything? Just official stuff. And my warranty void counter on the phone remains at 0. Even tho this still...
eu.community.samsung.com
Thats the KNOX warranty only! Not the hardware warranty, don't let Samsung bully you into believing otherwise.
Of course the mods/admins on a manufacturers forum are going to tow the company line, but its just a community forum. Actual law is what you should pay head to, in this case EU law -
-https://www.piana.eu/root/ - see below
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" Does rooting your device (e.g. an Android phone) and replacing its operating system with something else void your statutory warranty, if you are a consumer?
In short: No. Just the fact that you modified or changed the software of your device, is not a sufficient reason to void your statutory warranty. As long as you have bought the device as a consumer in the European Union.
A bit longer: Directive 1999/44/CE dictates¹ that any object meeting certain criteria (including telephones, computers, routers etc.) being sold to a consumer² inside the European Union, has to carry a warranty from the seller that the device will meet the quality that you would expect for such a device for a period of 2 years. A telephone is an example of such a device and is an object that comprises many parts, from the case to the screen to the radio, to a mini-computer, to the battery, to the software that runs it. If any of these parts³ stop working in those 2 years, the seller has to fix or replace them. What is more these repairs should not cost the consumer a single cent — the seller has to cover the expenses (Directive 1999/44/CE, §3). If the seller has any expenses for returning it to the manufacturer, this is not your problem as a consumer.
If your device becomes defective in the first 6 months, it is presumed that the defect was there all along, so you should not need to prove anything. If your device becomes defective after the first 6 months, but before 2 years run out, you are still covered. The difference is only that if the defect arises now, the seller can claim that the defect was caused by some action that was triggered by non-normal use of the device.
But in order to avoid needing to repair or replace your device, the seller has to prove that your action caused⁵ the defect. It is generally recognised by courts that unless there is a sign of abuse of the device, the defect is there because the device was faulty from the beginning. That is just common sense, after all.
So, we finally come to the question of rooting, flashing and changing the software. Unless the seller can prove that modifying the software, rooting your device or flashing it with some other OS or firmware was the cause for the defect, you are still covered for defects during those 2 years. A good test to see if it is the software’s fault is to flash it back with stock firmware/OS and see if the problem persists. If it does, it is not a software- caused problem. If it is not possible to revert it stock software any more, it is also not a software-caused defect (unless you have “bricked” the phone while flashing it, un-bricking is not covered by any statutory warranty). There are very few hardware defects that are caused by software — e.g. overriding the speaker volume above the safe level could blow the speaker. Many manufacturers of consumer devices write into their warranties a paragraph that by changing the software or “rooting” your device, you void the warranty.
You have to understand that in EU we have a “statutory warranty”, which is compulsory that the seller must offer by law (Directive 1999/44/CE, §7.1) and a “voluntary warranty” which the seller or manufacturer can, but does not need to, offer as an additional service to the consumer. Usually the “voluntary warranty” covers a longer period of time or additional accidents not covered by law.⁶ If though the seller, the manufacturer or anyone else offers a “voluntary warranty”, he is bound to it as well! So, even if, by any chance your “voluntary warranty” got voided, by European law, you should still have the 2 year “compulsory warranty” as it is described in the Directive and which is the topic of this article. In case the seller refuses your right to repair or replace the device, you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations.
The warranty under this Directive¹ is only applicable inside the European Union and only if you bought the device as a consumer.² "