Hi volks and p20 pro experts,
i wonder if my 3xtelelens really works or not.
If I zoom 3x and block the 40mp lens with my fingers and let the tele lens free, I see nothing.
Also I see no noticeable better shots when shooting 5x zoom with blocking the telelens or blocking not.
Do anyone know if this is normal behavior, or is this a brocken telelens.
I am on CLT-L29 8.1.0.131(C432)
Thank you all
littlemincer said:
Hi volks and p20 pro experts,
i wonder if my 3xtelelens really works or not.
If I zoom 3x and block the 40mp lens with my fingers and let the tele lens free, I see nothing.
Also I see no noticeable better shots when shooting 5x zoom with blocking the telelens or blocking not.
Do anyone know if this is normal behavior, or is this a brocken telelens.
I am on CLT-L29 8.1.0.131(C432)
Thank you all
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Depends on the conditions. Blocking lenses won't help because it will be using sensor data from all the lenses to get the best shot. You may just be blocking the lens that is showing you the preview on the phone screen.
Mine works and if I block the tele lens I see nothing, but bear in mind that you have to focus at something far for it to work or else it uses the digital zoom with main sensor. You can note that the tele works but seeing the ois starting to work in your display. I usually takes one two seconds to switch lens
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You can check the EXIF data from your shots to see which lens was actually used (the small i-Button in the top left, when you're viewing a picture in the gallery). If it states f1.8, it was the "normal" lens, if you see f2.4, it's the tele lens. Note that closeups will always be taken with the normal lens. If you want to shoot a close up with the tele lens, you need to be farther away, like at least one meter.
Hello guys, I'm really disappointed and I need your explanations please !
I bought my Galaxy Note 9 (960F variant) from an official Samsung store so I'm sure I'm having a genuine one
As you know, there are two cameras in the rear. I thought that the main one is in the middle, and the 2X optical zoom powered is the one at the left.
Well, yesterday I was playing with my phone, and I masked the camera on the left with a paper. So I thought that I can take pictures in normal mode with the camera on the middle, but the 2X option should give me a blank picture only because of the mask. But no ! Both modes (1x and 2x) are using the same middle camera !
It's normal ?! So what is the purpose of the left sided camera ? Is the 2X really an optical zoom or just a software one ?!
Please do the test and answer me !
Maybe this explains is it
https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-note-9-camera
My side camera works only on live focus. Everything else I tested works on the center only. I have a snapdragon, the same setup as my wife's Note 8 too. It's the way they are designed.
kaalalto said:
Hello guys, I'm really disappointed and I need your explanations please !
I bought my Galaxy Note 9 (960F variant) from an official Samsung store so I'm sure I'm having a genuine one
As you know, there are two cameras in the rear. I thought that the main one is in the middle, and the 2X optical zoom powered is the one at the left.
Well, yesterday I was playing with my phone, and I masked the camera on the left with a paper. So I thought that I can take pictures in normal mode with the camera on the middle, but the 2X option should give me a blank picture only because of the mask. But no ! Both modes (1x and 2x) are using the same middle camera !
It's normal ?! So what is the purpose of the left sided camera ? Is the 2X really an optical zoom or just a software one ?!
Please do the test and answer me !
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It's the same thing with the Note8. It all depends on the lighting and if anything blocking the other camera. It works by design. So when you hit 2x it seems it's blocked and gives you 2x digital zoom instead.
So it's truly an optical zoom ? I ask because if it's "just" a software one, I won't never use it to preserve picture quality !
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So it's truly an optical zoom ? I ask because if it's "just" a software one, I won't never use it to preserve picture quality !
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yep, AFAIK, it is true optical zoom. The camera just changes back to main camera if something is blocking the secondary one.
Um I try to not cover it ,but it still using the main one
JalenHo said:
Um I try to not cover it ,but it still using the main one
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Same here !
I hope I didn't started a "cameragate" scandal !
There are no official specifications from Samsung explaining the purpose of each camera ?!
It depends on the lighting
Try and go outside, on a sunny and bright day, point at the clouds or something, and zoom
Then cover the center camera, it should be using the 2x lens (can confirm with my SM-N960F)
kaalalto said:
Same here !
I hope I didn't started a "cameragate" scandal !
There are no official specifications from Samsung explaining the purpose of each camera ?!
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You didn't, it's working properly. You are just confused. Cover the middle one and see. Take multiple pics @ 1x and then at @ 2x on both cameras with and without covering. Covering the camera just out it into a different mode so as to not take bad pics by default. The difference is clear of you understand the 2 technologies and have any eye for photography. It's working completely correctly and very nicely.
Yeah like the others stated, it's not supposed to work completely independently and take pictures even with no light to the sensor, it's supposed to be smarter than that, if it's working correctly.
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Hey all, I worked this out.
In a low light situation the wide camera is used for the 2X zoom (So technically Digital zoom)
In a situation with more light, it switches to the dedicated 2X camera.
You can test this by putting your finger over the camera and showing it a bight light, then dark. I'm guessing this is because the main (Wide) camera is better at low light.
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Hey all, I worked this out.
In a low light situation the wide camera is used for the 2X zoom (So technically optical zoom)
In a situation with more light, it switches to the dedicated 2X camera.
You can test this by putting your finger over the camera and showing it a bight light, then dark. I'm guessing this is because the main (Wide) camera is better at low light.
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Yes, although you mean digital zoom for low light situations.
My issue is that sometimes the camera still decides to use digital zoom in good lighting instead of the second camera because it decides that a slightly overcast day or sunset is "low light" or the subject is too close. I'm guessing the second camera can't focus as closely and its optics aren't quite as good as the main camera. In more inconsistent conditions I can sometimes see the viewfinder image jump between the two lenses and usually settle for the digital zoom. Doesn't seem to be used at all in Pro Mode. (I also wish Pro Mode had burst capture)
If you look at the EXIF data you can see which lens is used for your photo. The wide lens is 4.3mm and the telephoto lens is 6mm. The mushroom images were taken 20 seconds apart with "2X" in Auto mode; in the second shot the camera decided to use the wide lens with crop, and the EXIF shows 4.3mm compared to the first image. The crop version just looks like an upscale and has more aggressive nose reduction and edge enhancement; it's not too bad compared to some phone cameras which add too much sharpening or use a simpler interpolation filter. The third image of the grasshopper/locust was in very bright daylight, but the camera decided to use the main camera with 2X crop.
https://imgur.com/a/MYpRogb
With video it tends to be even more obvious which camera is used because if you take 4K in low light with 2X enabled it looks more noise-reduced and interpolated.
I get that Samsung tried to make its camera app "smart" but the 2x button implies that it's using the 2x lens and doing otherwise is deceiving.
If I knew that a zoomed photo would use digital zoom then I'd rather take the full shot and crop later so that I can have more flexibility in framing.
While this is unlikely to ever happen, here's how I feel this should be fixed:
1) Add an option to force switch cameras in all conditions (perhaps in pro mode only?)
2) Hide the 2x button unless the telephoto camera will actually be used. Still allow pinch to digital zoom.
I've looked around but couldn't find any 3rd party camera apps which are able to use the zoom lens. Does anyone know of one?
I've tried a few shot it seems if the lighting isn't good enough it will stick with the primary camera., in good lighting it does work though.
Just do two shots with each and compare the level of detail, it should be obvious.
Hi,
Any methods or mods to change the camera lens on the live view mode. Actually my live focus on note 9 uses the telephoto lens. I think is much better to take Photos with the telephoto lens.
Any idea to change the camera lens for telephoto lens.
I want this too... telephoto is better to take portrait photos.
The S10 5G actually gives you the option to use the wide or the telephoto as the primary lens for the live focus mode. Maybe it will come to the S10 and S10+ too in an update?
That's a miss in S10. I need it too.
It's bad enough that Samsung apparently doesn't allow any 3rd party apps to access the telephoto lens. Man, I just want to have some fun. Especially considering that the telephoto lens are noticeably better than the default "wide" lens in my opinion.
Is waiting for a S10 compatible version of Samsung's Expert RAW app my only option?
bump!
Hi All,
Is there anyway to enable 4K Video with the wide Angle lens (0.5x zoom) in S20FE 5G Snap?
It already supports 4K with the normal lens (1x or no zoom)
I would really appreciate it if you could help me with this.
Thanks
thari_psg said:
Hi All,
Is there anyway to enable 4K Video with the wide Angle lens (0.5x zoom) in S20FE 5G Snap?
It already supports 4K with the normal lens (1x or no zoom)
I would really appreciate it if you could help me with this.
Thanks
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does the sensor for the wide angle lens have enough resolution after cropping in to do 4K ?
figure that out first so you're not wasting your time if it doesn't.
I think there's only one image sensor for all modes.
It seems to be a limitation enforced by the samsung camera app.
I installed gcam and it allows 4k at 30fps in wide angle mode.
I can't say I now for a fact but I'm thinking Samsung either turned it off to keep the regular S line a step above or like other phones it causes heating really fast and you're limited in how long it can do it.