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http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
qipengart said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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frankgreimes said:
Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
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If you are on Verizon or AT&T you can't do squat with it. Perhaps the GS4 is the way to go or something else. I guess March 25th is worth waiting for.
With Knox pre-installed, it won't be possible to customize it...
This is the END of Samsung for me
qipengart said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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Check again the screenshot, it only have 5.28GB occupied by the OS, the rest is files the users put in there.
So you'll have 10.72GB available space.
frankgreimes said:
Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
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Couldn't care less about bloat if the batterylife is good. Already suffered badly with Nexus. Pathetic batterylife (putting it mildy). What's the use of less-bloat if the batterylife is so bad?
BTW, I consider G+ integration as the biggest bloat in Android.
This is no different from what's been done before by Samsung and other companies with their devices. Samsung at least gives external storage options still.
System uses 5.28GB.
So you'll have 10+ for the user.
As you can see from the screenshot it is loaded with trailers and demos.
CLARiiON said:
Couldn't care less about bloat if the batterylife is good. Already suffered badly with Nexus. Pathetic batterylife (putting it mildy). What's the use of less-bloat if the batterylife is so bad?
BTW, I consider G+ integration as the biggest bloat in Android.
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Im with you. I love my nexus 5 to death, it's so fast and fluid. I even put purity and franco for the best battery/performance you can get from it. But still, battery life is not that good. I can get max 5 sot without playing games. And thats not enough. I cant have a peace of mind using a device that doesnt have a removable battery. But with my s4 and its battery kit, it's a pleasure to use. I can have 50% of juice left and have the battery kit 100% stand by waiting to be put. With this infinity battery life, i can have a peace of mind using my phone, even for playing emulators.
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harlz said:
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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Then night as well get the S4 Google play edition
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Skander1998 said:
System uses 5.28GB.
So you'll have 10+ for the user.
As you can see from the screenshot it is loaded with trailers and demos.
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im just wondering if Samsung is going to release a 32Gb model right away or will we have to wait for one like people had to for the s4
RaptorMD said:
If you are on Verizon or AT&T you can't do squat with it. Perhaps the GS4 is the way to go or something else. I guess March 25th is worth waiting for.
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Out of curiosity (since I'm new to the droid world) -- Why can't you do anything with the Verizon or ATT model?
karmuh said:
Out of curiosity (since I'm new to the droid world) -- Why can't you do anything with the Verizon or ATT model?
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Most likely carrier locked bootloader.
noideaforusername said:
Check again the screenshot, it only have 5.28GB occupied by the OS, the rest is files the users put in there.
So you'll have 10.72GB available space.
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Yeah until the carriers (well the ones here in the US at least) get their hands on it & add their useless bloatware on top of Touchwiz, which brings me to my 2nd rant - Samsung or any other OEM has no business even offering up 16gb models these days. The standard should be 32gb at least & especially since Google wants to kill SD card access.
One to the Max
piscesjoey said:
Yeah until the carriers (well the ones here in the US at least) get their hands on it & add their useless bloatware on top of Touchwiz, which brings me to my 2nd rant - Samsung or any other OEM has no business even offering up 16gb models these days. The standard should be 32gb at least & especially since Google wants to kill SD card access.
One to the Max
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I agree about the 16gb part, but at most carrier bloatware will add maybe 512mb-2014mb. Which the major carriers let you delete some of the crap you don't want no problem.
harlz said:
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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OR, we can flash the GPE rom later
I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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Temetka said:
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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I know it's my decision to do or not .
Honestly , I think it became more a habit than a necessity for most users.
1. First reason
After many years of owning latest smartphones I know very well which application I cannot live without. So after using pathed versions - for a (long) test purpose - just bought them. So - no need to root from this point.
2. Second reason
Stock UI. Been trying many ROM's with good or bad results and realised that there are never ideal custom soft for your mobile. They caused always some kind of trouble. Maybe the reason is I'm getting older and have no time to dig into system, but lately I decided to stick to preinstalled firmware and as the only modification - to change unuseful Galaxy launcher on similar Galaxy one from Play store. So again - no root needed.
And yes - I got my Note4 rooted. There are two reasons I did this:
1. To get a possibility to add any application shortcut to the bar on the right side. I know I can jump between applications by using the task touch button on the left side but I love to use the bar on the right. Much easier for me.
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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WL8789621 said:
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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as far as I know Lollipop fixes the SD card Problems . Correct me if I am wrong
I'm still on Kit Kat. Was reading about SD on Lolipop and personally I think the new system SD storage improvement is dedicated to developers - not to us and our files whatever they are.
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I've rooted every android phone I have.. The note 3 took me about 8 months of non root use before I rooted to try custom ROMs.. They were great but not essential.
The note 4 running stock no root seems to be rock solid. Produces good enough performance to run anything with ease I chuck at it.. I like root apps. But deem non of them essential in my daily use of my phone. So in my opinion. This phone right now doesn't need root.
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Ive been rooting all my phones the xouple of years and tried allmost every rom. Now i have my note 4 since yesterday but i dont feel the need to root it. Its just fast the way it came with touchwiz. And for the first time i dont disturb the touchwiz it just works on this beast.
So in my opinion i shouldnt root it to make it faster.
Only thing is i cant greenify facebook becouse its a stock app. Does somebody know how i can greenify it ??
Yes
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Greenify? For battery life?
I'm gonna wait for lollipop, and then at least a few updates to that before I root.
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RoyLoy said:
I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
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It depends on what you are doing with your phone. If you use mobile banking I recommend you DO NOT use root if so use as much protection as you can. With root you basically control anything - change design, control behavior of you device, control it's CPU and GPU, using different ROMs and more.
I've rooted my S4 and with awesome tools on XDA I was able to revert it and with USB jig make it totally unroot without any evidence of change.
It probably will be on Note 4 however Know could be problem.
I use root, I've SuperSU Pro and also I use Eset Antivirus. Mainly I use Xposed and fantastic X-Note ROM. Also what I love about ROOT is backup - simpy in recovery like TWRP.
Anyway it still depends on you what you wanna do with your phone. You can live without it in stock but at least Android 4.4.4. in Note 4 with Stock ROM is pretty junk on RAM.
Just a personal preference. I specifically root all my devices for two main reasons.
1 adware programs
2 hotspot
Those 2 reasons usually are the only 2 for me. The warranty thing i feel like it doesnt matter for me. I use to keep the sprint insurance on my phones and if i had a prob i could just take it and and get a replacement or repair. Sprint hasnt ever told me they wouldnt fool with my phone because it was rooted. I just bring it in with stock software and most of them dont even know what root is. I swap around phones so much now i just dropped the insurance all together because i figured i was paying 130 dollars a year with the rate increase and i wasnt benefiting from it. I hardly ever use any kind of hotspot and sprint makes u pay 20 dollars extra a month. I dont think i use it enough to justify paying that. I can go 6 months easy without using it. Its just those few and far between cases where it comes in handy.
My 2 cents
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I didn't root my Note 1 or the Sony Z Ultra but I've been looking into rooting the Note 4 due to the phone interface being far too large for the size of the phone screen, the Z Ultra was correctly scaled to suit the larger screen so it made the Note 4 feel very cramped in comparison. I've used the adb trick I found on this forum to adjust the DPI without root which largely works well, it mucks up most of the Samsung applications which is fine as they can be replaced aside from the stock camera application which is meant to get the best out of the camera. The only solution seems to be to root it and set custom application specific dpi's although I'm not finding the misaligned camera screen too much of an issue.
John
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
donkon said:
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
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How will rooting help privacy?
I was lazy about rooting my Note 4 for a while but as soon as I did I realized I should not have waited as long as I did. There is some really solid, stable, streamlined ROMs available right now. The lag on stock is not as noticeable until you've rooted and installed a custom ROM. Now I can truly say the 4 is a beast.
touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
zurkx said:
touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
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LOL
jlczl said:
LOL
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No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
daffie said:
No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
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I think that's what most knowledgeable people do when setting up a new TW phone. The LOL is because that doesn't eliminate the lag that is there. There is so much discussion about this all over, I don't really want to start it all over again here.
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
susy1990 said:
Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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yep i hope its that easy lol
i'm going to guess the bootloader is locked like the s7 edge. hopefully it's not too long before we have a exploit to root.
CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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It's called KNOX, also you don't need root to remove bloat on android 5+. Some will argue for space purposes but the system parition is just that, chances are if you simply cannot uninstall and you have to disable, then the application resides in the system parition. Deleting app in the system partion creates no more useable user space.
As far as Knox, what makes you want to remove it?
I'm waiting to see before buying
With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
clockedtouch said:
With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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The golden question is, is there a back door to the iron gates of KNOX? On the front end it can be encrypted to the moon and back, but if there is a back door, it's pointless. Also with finger print scanners and the iris scanner. What a convenient way to capture personal data. Let the people do the work for them...brilliant.
I'm curious to hear what Dev's that know the in's and out's of the software have to say about this...The only way we'd be able to know for sure is if it was fully open source to be able to see any hidden doors and where they exist.
Just saying...
Oh and I do hope someone finds an exploit to be able to stably root.
I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
Amd4life said:
I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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xposed installer that's one
Kind of crazy to decide to buy or not buy a phone because of an ap that doesn't even come installed on the phone. IN any event, if ROOT is found for the Note 7 - then you can install Xposed)
Chances are very high that the US Varients of the Note 7 are all going to be locked. I will be shocked if TMOBILE does not lock down the Note 7 like they did on the S7 (well if you listen to TMOBILE they say Samsung locked it - not tmobile) whatever, my bet is it is going to be locked.
In any event, the Note 7 is going to be a beast of a phone - just like the S7 Edge -BUT, not much different than the 7 Edge - a little larger - slightly better camera - S Pen of course - but otherwise, not a whole lot different - that is probably the main reason why I am struggling with whether to buy or not - I played with one at Best Buy the other day and I like the feel of Note 7 a lot - the curved screen is slightly different than the S7 Edge - but it still looks amazing - not sure what I am going to do.....we'll see....I love new toys - for that reason alone, I will probably end up getting it - but still havent made a final decision....I will NOT buy a pre-order like I have done with every other phone since the note 2 - I got burned when the S7 Edge turned out to be locked and I am not going to risk that again ...we'll find out soon enough...
Yea it sure is a toss up at this point and Samsung if you are listening, you are not doing yourself a favor for locking boot loaders. You don't have to worry about anything, because you'll still make the sales off of the majority who don't care about unlocked BL's, but one thing that you do have to understated is that although the phone enthusiasts may make up a small percentage, we are the ones who are responsible for making up the foundation of the phone customizing culture. You are on the edge and about to lower yourself into the apple territory. Don't do that.
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
vibrantliker said:
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
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They are rooted at the moment...
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Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
mister_propa said:
xposed installer that's one
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Xposed is hardly a reason to make the low fruit argument of it might as well be an apple if you can't root it. The fact that I can upload whatever files I want, I can OTG connect keyboards, mice, thumbdrives, expandable memory was brought back, replacement launchers, I can install apps outside of the market, disabled built in software, change what app handles your messages.
Inherently there is so much more flexibility in android. You could drop android back two version numbers and functionality still holds its own against iOS today
All that happens before root.
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coretech said:
Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
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If its like the Note 5 when it comes to root (if you can) then it will only kill Samsung Pay. Of course there were other devices (S5/6?) that lost finger print scanning because of the root method. We kind of just have to wait and see.
bajasur said:
They are rooted at the moment...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
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I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR:
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
vibrantliker said:
I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
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Andrew S.S. said:
I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR: I need root! I cannot live without it and unless you taste and eat the delicious glory(root) as much as I do, you wouldn't understand.
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
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Listing all the things you can do with root is great but my gripe is the claim of "It might as well be an iPhone" when you can't root it. Thats a very low energy argument.
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
wing_addict_usa said:
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
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ALL the LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can be rooted. You might need to stick with that for now.
ROOT FOR T-MOBILE H932 V30/V30+
ROOT FOR ALL OTHER V30/V30+/V30S
Yup, I'm on the same boat.
Me too.
I have the S8+ TMO. And when the v40 thinq comes out I plan to go back to LG. It's no fun without root. I miss A.R.I.S.E., being able to debloat my rom, trying out kernels, and changing my fonts to abeatbykai. Sigh.....I miss those days!
If we get Root for the LG V40 ThinQ then do you think there would be good developer support?
As an alternative, Im looking at the Pixel 3 XL, but would prefer to have the 3.5mm jack and sd card support.
For me is highly recommended. With LG and the implementation of the quad dacs I think having root may help with triggering high impedance mode. I'd still be using my V30 today if I would have bought an unlocked version off the bat instead of TMO. This was back in the day when root wasn't available for the TMO but the unlocked version had it in like a week or so. I'm dumping my Pixel 2 XL which has root for the unlocked version of the LG V40.
On a side note the guys at my local TMO allowed me to play with their demo of the V40! Loved it! The screen was awesome, like it's just all screen no bezels. not sure about the headphone jack being on the bottom this time around but we'll see how it goes. Holding it got me super excited about the phone.
rooting is a waste of time so no.
I don't care about root anymore. This isn't an LG G2X that needs root. Phones have come a long way
If this phone gets to be as easily unlockable as a Nexus/Pixel, I'd be willing to consider getting it to replace my 6P.
No root = no development = no custom ROM
Look at the most recent models sections. There's no more development section.
No root = you won't be able to remove pre installed spyware
Is it bad enough?!
mingkee said:
No root = no development = no custom ROM
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So, what?
Exactly what for do you need custom ROM in nowadays?
It was a toy like 3-5 years ago but now with Google Pay and 6Gb RAM in phones custom ROMs are legacy and unneeded thing. Forgot the proper word
mingkee said:
No root = you won't be able to remove pre installed spyware
Is it bad enough?!
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Yes, you can remove. Most spyware can be disabled straightly from the settings/apps info menu. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle
These days I even use the LG launcher(after enabling the app drawer)
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore ?*
wing_addict_usa said:
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
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ChazzMatt said:
ALL the LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can be rooted. You might need to stick with that for now.
ROOT FOR T-MOBILE H932 V30/V30+
ROOT FOR ALL OTHER V30/V30+/V30S
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Jericksen92 said:
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore.
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First, there is functionality to rooting even just on stock firmware. On the V30/V30+/V30S you can enable High Impedance Mode (HIM) on the Quad DAC without LG''s "permission" (which needs 50 ohms or higher headsets). You can also enable "dual speaker" mode. (The mods on that thread is more advanced than the original HIM mod, same developer.) There's plenty of other root-required mods that add functionality, like silent camera files. I'm just comparing the V30 to the V40, because it's the direct successor from a year ago and we DO have root on all V30 variants.
For root in general, I've long used a time sync app and scheduled Auto Reboot (so my phone starts "fresh" every day). Whether you want those things is your decision. But it's YOUR phone, so you can do what you want.
Which leads me to my most important point. OWNERSHIP. With root, it's YOUR phone, not the carrier, not the OEM. It's just like being administrator of your computer at home. Any computer I buy, I will have "admin" privileges. Smartphones are simply handheld computers. A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones. Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone. People thought they had BOUGHT those Note 7 phones, but this proved Samsung still OWNED all those Galaxy Note 7 phones. The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted. Those people who were rooted really owned their phones, not Samsung.
Until your phone is rooted, you do not own it. You are merely "renting"/leasing it from the real owner -- the carrier/OEM.
Billy Madison said:
So, what?
Exactly what for do you need custom ROM in nowadays?
It was a toy like 3-5 years ago but now with Google Pay and 6Gb RAM in phones custom ROMs are legacy and unneeded thing. Forgot the proper word
Yes, you can remove. Most spyware can be disabled straightly from the settings/apps info menu. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle
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You should use iPhone then
Jericksen92 said:
These days I even use the LG launcher(after enabling the app drawer)
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore ?*
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This.
And, frankly, I even see no use in app drawer. See, app drawer is a crippled thing from days of 512Mb phones. In those days launcher would need too much RAM to draw all the icons so they were hidden to conserve memory and free it for user's apps.
Now when I have 6Gb I see no use in drawer, I sort icons to folder to my content and can't be happier
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scheduled Auto Reboot
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
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A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone.
The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted
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You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having root
And you're not owning your phone until you delete all Google's crap up to google play services and play services framework. Even if you have root but have google on phone it's Google who owns it not you. That was proven dozens times
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having r
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Wrong in so many ways
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And, frankly, I even see no use in app drawer.
See, app drawer is a crippled thing from days of 512Mb phones. In those days launcher would need too much RAM to draw all the icons so they were hidden to conserve memory and free it for user's apps.
Now when I have 6Gb I see no use in drawer, I sort icons to folder to my content and can't be happier
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No, you're not correct about that. The reason I and others use app drawer has nothing to do with amount of RAM. I have 200-300 apps and I prefer to hide most of them in an app drawer. I don't want them cluttering up my desktop screens. Yes, I have a couple of folders on my desktop, but for the most part I have my most used app clustered in categories on separate pages. For apps I use occasionally, those stay in the app drawer. Like a closet.
Same concept with Programs folder and desktop shortcuts on Windows and even the QuickLaunch bar (which I still use, even on Windows 10). Programs folder (app drawer) is for ALL installed programs (apps), desktop shortcuts/QuickLaunch/Pinned to Start menu are for frequently used programs (or apps with Android).
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For root in general, I've long used a time sync app and scheduled Auto Reboot (so my phone starts "fresh" every day). Whether you want those things is your decision. But it's YOUR phone, so you can do what you want.
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
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I seriously have no idea what you are saying in this statement. There's no scheduled reboot in stock Oreo, that I have seen.
But I have one anyway -- on all my Androids for quite some time, because I OWN my devices.
I also have a script to reboot my Windows PC every night. Same concept.
EDIT: Apparently on some phones you can schedule a reboot ONCE A WEEK. And you can't really control the time to the minute. It's "within one hour of the time you set"?
https://amp.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...errer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
And some carriers remove that feature. I don't see it on my phone and my ROOTED app is much better.
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Which leads me to my most important point. OWNERSHIP. With root, it's YOUR phone, not the carrier, not the OEM. It's just like being administrator of your computer at home. Any computer I buy, I will have "admin" privileges. Smartphones are simply handheld computers. A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones. Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone. People thought they had BOUGHT those Note 7 phones, but this proved Samsung still OWNED all those Galaxy Note 7 phones. The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted. Those people who were rooted really owned their phones, not Samsung.
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You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having root
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You know better -- or should -- so not sure why you even said this. OEM/carrier can push updates no matter what you choose -- unless you own your phone with root:
https://thenextweb.com/mobile/2017/03/24/samsung-galaxy-note-7-disable-charging/
Samsung will remotely kill all unreturned Galaxy Note 7 units
The electronics giant announced it will begin remotely phasing out the last remaining units of its handset by forcing software updates that will prevent still unreturned Note 7 devices from charging, according to The Korea Herald.
Rumors that Samsung might force software updates to remotely brick unreturned Galaxy Note 7 units first began circulating last September, but were ultimately confirmed three months later in December.
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Samsung pushed those updates no matter what settings were chosen. Also, I've seen over and over people who got updated with OTHER phones,no matter what settings they chose. It's happened too frequently to be accidents. Carriers/OEMs own those phones, not you. If they decide to force an update, they'll force an update... whether you want it or not.
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Rooting is a philosophy of ownership, just like being admin of your PC. With root you can decide what happens and when, what is installed or not, how things are.
It's not about how stock is so "improved" you don't need to root. If you are saying that, then you are not even in the same discussion as me.
Sure, one day the the phones may be so locked down you can't root them, but that's NOT something you should accept willingly.
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Until your phone is rooted, you do not own it. You are merely "renting"/leasing it from the real owner -- the carrier/OEM.
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ChazzMatt said:
No, you're not correct about that. The reason I and others use app drawer has nothing to do with amount of RAM. I have 200-300 apps and I prefer to hide most of them in an app drawer. I don't want them cluttering up my desktop screens.
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Apps, that I don't need, stay in my 7th, 8th, 9th etc screens. It's the same as if I had them in drawer.
What I said is the CONCEPT of drawer was designed in the days when phones had scarse RAM and drawer was invented to comsume memory when using launcher. I didn't say that you must not use drawer, you may do what you see fit. It's just that I don't need drawer no more and em not using it
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I seriously have no idea what you are saying in this statement. There's no scheduled reboot in stock Oreo, that I have seen.
EDIT: Apparently on some phones you can schedule a reboot ONCE A WEEK. And you can't really control the time to the minute. It's "within one hour of the time you set"?
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Yes, LG G7 and probabaly V30 has such ability. I thought it could reboot once a day but my mistake, only once a week. Anyway I don't see need in such feature, I may reboot phone mystelf when I think most proper time. Maybe before I'm gonna put it on charge.
Ahyway I see no need for scripted reboots neither in Android nor in Windows
mingkee said:
You should use iPhone then
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I can play with my phone, I can surf, I can listen MQA music, I can shoot HDR10 video. There's nothing that I can't which I could do if I'll root phone or install custom ROM on it
That's what I'm trying to say. Back in the 2011 day when you fought for 6500 in Antutu and custom kernel could gain you 6800 you couldn't be happier. But noadays it's vain
Android 12 preferably.
Would you say the A74 is worth the money? I've done a bit of reseach and found there is a lot of bloatware on the phone. It's easy removable or disable? I don't want to root the phone.
What's the reason you want to install custom software? I have rooted a long time ago but that was becaue a lot of cool functions years ago were not yet available on standard OS
g0rnex said:
Would you say the A74 is worth the money? I've done a bit of reseach and found there is a lot of bloatware on the phone. It's easy removable or disable? I don't want to root the phone.
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What's the reason you want to install custom software? I have rooted a long time ago but that was becaue a lot of cool functions years ago were not yet available on standard OS
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A lot of the bloatware apps are removable minus some from Google and a few system apps such as App Market, Game Center, Hot Apps, Hot Games, Music Party, My OPPO, ORoaming, Phone Manager. I have installed over 130 apps and games including Call of Duty (1.8gb) and PES (1.9gb), and the phone has been very decent in terms of performance. No lag at all. So far so good, have not encountered a single issue with this phone.
The phone comes with Android 11, and the Android 12 update comes next month but I am just here looking for options.
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What's the reason you want to install custom software? I have rooted a long time ago but that was becaue a lot of cool functions years ago were not yet available on standard OS
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Hello, can you tell me how you unlocked the bootloader? I have an Oppo a74 5g as well.
lshotspot said:
Hello, can you tell me how you unlocked the bootloader? I have an Oppo a74 5g as well.
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Something strange with the quoting here.
Anyway, I did not root in the end. I meant I used to root before on older phones but was questioning why one would want to root the oppo before buying it.
g0rnex said:
Something strange with the quoting here.
Anyway, I did not root in the end. I meant I used to root before on older phones but was questioning why one would want to root the oppo before buying it.
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Something strange with the quoting here.
Anyway, I did not root in the end. I meant I used to root before on older phones but was questioning why one would want to root the oppo before buying it.
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Thank you anyway.
quiddityinfinitus said:
A lot of the bloatware apps are removable minus some from Google and a few system apps such as App Market, Game Center, Hot Apps, Hot Games, Music Party, My OPPO, ORoaming, Phone Manager. I have installed over 130 apps and games including Call of Duty (1.8gb) and PES (1.9gb), and the phone has been very decent in terms of performance. No lag at all. So far so good, have not encountered a single issue with this phone.
The phone comes with Android 11, and the Android 12 update comes next month but I am just here looking for options.
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what rom you are using? can you teach me how? my phone is a74