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How many user have rooted the new device?
M.
I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
I rooted my phone. There is no adblocker like AdAway and I enjoy tinkering with it.
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I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
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There are many reasons for root. There always will be too.
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How many user have rooted the new device?
M.
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Depends, none in the US or with a snapdragon version. Exynos, yes, lots.
Death-Dealer said:
There are many reasons for root. There always will be too.
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I was simply answering the question as it pertains to me.
For me, no reason to root. Only reason I did was for titanium backup but it caused more issues than it was worth. I restore with samsung backup and log back in to everything to start fresh everytime. I found that rooting to restore and start with dirty app data caused unwanted results. There is not 1 thing I need root for now days
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root is MUST, I do not need a phone without it, period !!
Maybe, one day we can get root with AOSP out of the box. ohh, dreams !!
at least for now we have UK version Note 8 N950F that has unlocked bootloader, and works with multiple bands !! unfortunately it's the only version that supports everything, would be nice to have 256gb on board.
microsd cards is really garbage laggy crap, which will die on you anytime.
I had the S8+ and my version didn't have root, so I was forced to live without it.
I'll be getting my hands on the Note 8 in a couple of days, and my plan now is NOT to root it, regardless of whether root is available. The reason is because what I LOSE from root now outweighs what I gain from it.
The main thing that I lose from root? SECURE FOLDER!
This has become really valuable to me. I lost it after rooting the Note 7 so never really got to use it, but after having used it on the S8+, I don't think I'm willing to give it up.
Like others have already pointed out, the benefits of root aren't that important anymore:
- Titanium backup for restoring apps - mostly done by Samsung's restore, and my most important apps to port over with data have their own backup/restore functions anyway (ie. Wechat and Whatsapp)
- Other root apps like Greenify - Samsung already has similar functions built-in
- Backup of entire phone - can live without it
- custom roms - Samsung already has most of the stuff I wanted from custom roms anyway, like showing the battery percentage on notification bar, etc.
- Accessing root directory - oh well, too bad. Won't die without this ability.
Yes, I'm rooted, for AdAway mainly.
As others have said, most thing you needed root for you can do without root now. For me it was Call Recording and changing the DPI, both of which i could do perfectly on my N8 before rooting it.
I have rooted Note 4 but now do not see point why i need to do for note 8
1 Will trigger know and other samsung security services
2 The all point why Samsung not allowing to root is for security reason as it is all point how to secure you data
Just imagine you have rooted - Now phone stolen + it is rooted so you have open doors to you all content emails contacts etc "Im not sure if all right but if you have root you can access anything on the phone maybe im wrong?"
Im not programmer to use full potential of root if you do not know what are you doing -can make phone work slower that faster
all non system programs you can disable in app To remove samsung thing yes maybe will be good thing, but it is samsung phone so I can blame samsung because they put samsung services Just if do not want to use them do not use
_MetalHead_ said:
I haven't rooted a phone in at least a couple years. No need anymore. On the Note 8, practically anything can be disabled, themes don't need root, there are amazing root-free adblockers now, and performance is killer. Why waste time tinkering with the phone when I can be enjoying it instead?
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LOL, you know this is a DEV website right? Where people hang out to root phones, because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
If you don't root then what developer will do Lol !
Anyway, loosing Spay and secure folder is currently challenging, may be some workaround appear later. Also development is at early stage so may you can wait till you find good reason for it. By the way, rooted mine almost in no time after getting it on 21st.
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LOL, you know this is a DEV website right? Where people hang out to root phones, because they want to. Because they enjoy it.
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So THAT'S why it's called "XDA developers"? In my 7 years here you would think I'd have figured that out!
Again. I answered the question as it pertains to me. I've rooted more phones than not, I just don't feel the need anymore.
Last time I was here was during the HTC EVO days and got my phone rooted. Back than - it increased my battery life and unlocked a lot of capabilities the phone was able to handle.
Nowadays - buying a note 8 seems very powerful as is. These capabilities I spoke of are now there... so what is the purpose nowadays for rooting?
At the moment, I am considering rooting only to remove the bloat and I enjoy a barebones Rom... but even than, 64gb - I dont know if I really should bother or not... convince me please
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Last time I was here was during the HTC EVO days and got my phone rooted. Back than - it increased my battery life and unlocked a lot of capabilities the phone was able to handle.
Nowadays - buying a note 8 seems very powerful as is. These capabilities I spoke of are now there... so what is the purpose nowadays for rooting?
At the moment, I am considering rooting only to remove the bloat and I enjoy a barebones Rom... but even than, 64gb - I dont know if I really should bother or not... convince me please
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I agree - no rooting. You just introduce instability. This thing is a wicked fast BEAST.
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I root mainly for xposed (not working on the SD Note 8 yet). To edit the csc features xml, to use sixaxis controller app, titanium backup and a few other things. It's true you don't not root on such a bad ass phone like this as it's great is but I enjoy having control over my device.
You won't need root unless you are a developer I don't think, everything we needed root for back in Note 2,3,4 days are now available out of the box or there is an app for it
Grizaje said:
Last time I was here was during the HTC EVO days and got my phone rooted. Back than - it increased my battery life and unlocked a lot of capabilities the phone was able to handle.
Nowadays - buying a note 8 seems very powerful as is. These capabilities I spoke of are now there... so what is the purpose nowadays for rooting?
At the moment, I am considering rooting only to remove the bloat and I enjoy a barebones Rom... but even than, 64gb - I dont know if I really should bother or not... convince me please
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Bk package disabled app should suffice for you
many of the reasons for rooting are still present, mostly boiling down to much greater ability to customize the software, as well as more flexible backup options.
Rooting certainly does not introduce instability, as the phone will continue to run as stock until software is changed/deleted/added to make it 'run' differently.
Get 4k recording with 60 fps (exynos only)
Recover anything thats permanently deleted from internal stprage
More customisation etc
Majin101 said:
Bk package disabled app should suffice for you
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pardon me?
hasibzaman said:
Get 4k recording with 60 fps (exynos only)
Recover anything thats permanently deleted from internal stprage
More customisation etc
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how do I tell if I have a exynos?
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pardon me?
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That app will help remove bloatware apps.
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how do I tell if I have a exynos?
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Phone info app on google play store...
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
wing_addict_usa said:
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
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ALL the LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can be rooted. You might need to stick with that for now.
ROOT FOR T-MOBILE H932 V30/V30+
ROOT FOR ALL OTHER V30/V30+/V30S
Yup, I'm on the same boat.
Me too.
I have the S8+ TMO. And when the v40 thinq comes out I plan to go back to LG. It's no fun without root. I miss A.R.I.S.E., being able to debloat my rom, trying out kernels, and changing my fonts to abeatbykai. Sigh.....I miss those days!
If we get Root for the LG V40 ThinQ then do you think there would be good developer support?
As an alternative, Im looking at the Pixel 3 XL, but would prefer to have the 3.5mm jack and sd card support.
For me is highly recommended. With LG and the implementation of the quad dacs I think having root may help with triggering high impedance mode. I'd still be using my V30 today if I would have bought an unlocked version off the bat instead of TMO. This was back in the day when root wasn't available for the TMO but the unlocked version had it in like a week or so. I'm dumping my Pixel 2 XL which has root for the unlocked version of the LG V40.
On a side note the guys at my local TMO allowed me to play with their demo of the V40! Loved it! The screen was awesome, like it's just all screen no bezels. not sure about the headphone jack being on the bottom this time around but we'll see how it goes. Holding it got me super excited about the phone.
rooting is a waste of time so no.
I don't care about root anymore. This isn't an LG G2X that needs root. Phones have come a long way
If this phone gets to be as easily unlockable as a Nexus/Pixel, I'd be willing to consider getting it to replace my 6P.
No root = no development = no custom ROM
Look at the most recent models sections. There's no more development section.
No root = you won't be able to remove pre installed spyware
Is it bad enough?!
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No root = no development = no custom ROM
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So, what?
Exactly what for do you need custom ROM in nowadays?
It was a toy like 3-5 years ago but now with Google Pay and 6Gb RAM in phones custom ROMs are legacy and unneeded thing. Forgot the proper word
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No root = you won't be able to remove pre installed spyware
Is it bad enough?!
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Yes, you can remove. Most spyware can be disabled straightly from the settings/apps info menu. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle
These days I even use the LG launcher(after enabling the app drawer)
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore ?*
wing_addict_usa said:
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
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ALL the LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can be rooted. You might need to stick with that for now.
ROOT FOR T-MOBILE H932 V30/V30+
ROOT FOR ALL OTHER V30/V30+/V30S
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Jericksen92 said:
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore.
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First, there is functionality to rooting even just on stock firmware. On the V30/V30+/V30S you can enable High Impedance Mode (HIM) on the Quad DAC without LG''s "permission" (which needs 50 ohms or higher headsets). You can also enable "dual speaker" mode. (The mods on that thread is more advanced than the original HIM mod, same developer.) There's plenty of other root-required mods that add functionality, like silent camera files. I'm just comparing the V30 to the V40, because it's the direct successor from a year ago and we DO have root on all V30 variants.
For root in general, I've long used a time sync app and scheduled Auto Reboot (so my phone starts "fresh" every day). Whether you want those things is your decision. But it's YOUR phone, so you can do what you want.
Which leads me to my most important point. OWNERSHIP. With root, it's YOUR phone, not the carrier, not the OEM. It's just like being administrator of your computer at home. Any computer I buy, I will have "admin" privileges. Smartphones are simply handheld computers. A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones. Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone. People thought they had BOUGHT those Note 7 phones, but this proved Samsung still OWNED all those Galaxy Note 7 phones. The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted. Those people who were rooted really owned their phones, not Samsung.
Until your phone is rooted, you do not own it. You are merely "renting"/leasing it from the real owner -- the carrier/OEM.
Billy Madison said:
So, what?
Exactly what for do you need custom ROM in nowadays?
It was a toy like 3-5 years ago but now with Google Pay and 6Gb RAM in phones custom ROMs are legacy and unneeded thing. Forgot the proper word
Yes, you can remove. Most spyware can be disabled straightly from the settings/apps info menu. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle
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You should use iPhone then
Jericksen92 said:
These days I even use the LG launcher(after enabling the app drawer)
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore ?*
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This.
And, frankly, I even see no use in app drawer. See, app drawer is a crippled thing from days of 512Mb phones. In those days launcher would need too much RAM to draw all the icons so they were hidden to conserve memory and free it for user's apps.
Now when I have 6Gb I see no use in drawer, I sort icons to folder to my content and can't be happier
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scheduled Auto Reboot
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
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A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone.
The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted
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You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having root
And you're not owning your phone until you delete all Google's crap up to google play services and play services framework. Even if you have root but have google on phone it's Google who owns it not you. That was proven dozens times
Billy Madison said:
But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having r
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Wrong in so many ways
Billy Madison said:
And, frankly, I even see no use in app drawer.
See, app drawer is a crippled thing from days of 512Mb phones. In those days launcher would need too much RAM to draw all the icons so they were hidden to conserve memory and free it for user's apps.
Now when I have 6Gb I see no use in drawer, I sort icons to folder to my content and can't be happier
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No, you're not correct about that. The reason I and others use app drawer has nothing to do with amount of RAM. I have 200-300 apps and I prefer to hide most of them in an app drawer. I don't want them cluttering up my desktop screens. Yes, I have a couple of folders on my desktop, but for the most part I have my most used app clustered in categories on separate pages. For apps I use occasionally, those stay in the app drawer. Like a closet.
Same concept with Programs folder and desktop shortcuts on Windows and even the QuickLaunch bar (which I still use, even on Windows 10). Programs folder (app drawer) is for ALL installed programs (apps), desktop shortcuts/QuickLaunch/Pinned to Start menu are for frequently used programs (or apps with Android).
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ChazzMatt said:
For root in general, I've long used a time sync app and scheduled Auto Reboot (so my phone starts "fresh" every day). Whether you want those things is your decision. But it's YOUR phone, so you can do what you want.
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
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I seriously have no idea what you are saying in this statement. There's no scheduled reboot in stock Oreo, that I have seen.
But I have one anyway -- on all my Androids for quite some time, because I OWN my devices.
I also have a script to reboot my Windows PC every night. Same concept.
EDIT: Apparently on some phones you can schedule a reboot ONCE A WEEK. And you can't really control the time to the minute. It's "within one hour of the time you set"?
https://amp.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...errer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
And some carriers remove that feature. I don't see it on my phone and my ROOTED app is much better.
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Which leads me to my most important point. OWNERSHIP. With root, it's YOUR phone, not the carrier, not the OEM. It's just like being administrator of your computer at home. Any computer I buy, I will have "admin" privileges. Smartphones are simply handheld computers. A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones. Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone. People thought they had BOUGHT those Note 7 phones, but this proved Samsung still OWNED all those Galaxy Note 7 phones. The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted. Those people who were rooted really owned their phones, not Samsung.
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You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having root
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You know better -- or should -- so not sure why you even said this. OEM/carrier can push updates no matter what you choose -- unless you own your phone with root:
https://thenextweb.com/mobile/2017/03/24/samsung-galaxy-note-7-disable-charging/
Samsung will remotely kill all unreturned Galaxy Note 7 units
The electronics giant announced it will begin remotely phasing out the last remaining units of its handset by forcing software updates that will prevent still unreturned Note 7 devices from charging, according to The Korea Herald.
Rumors that Samsung might force software updates to remotely brick unreturned Galaxy Note 7 units first began circulating last September, but were ultimately confirmed three months later in December.
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Samsung pushed those updates no matter what settings were chosen. Also, I've seen over and over people who got updated with OTHER phones,no matter what settings they chose. It's happened too frequently to be accidents. Carriers/OEMs own those phones, not you. If they decide to force an update, they'll force an update... whether you want it or not.
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Rooting is a philosophy of ownership, just like being admin of your PC. With root you can decide what happens and when, what is installed or not, how things are.
It's not about how stock is so "improved" you don't need to root. If you are saying that, then you are not even in the same discussion as me.
Sure, one day the the phones may be so locked down you can't root them, but that's NOT something you should accept willingly.
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Until your phone is rooted, you do not own it. You are merely "renting"/leasing it from the real owner -- the carrier/OEM.
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No, you're not correct about that. The reason I and others use app drawer has nothing to do with amount of RAM. I have 200-300 apps and I prefer to hide most of them in an app drawer. I don't want them cluttering up my desktop screens.
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Apps, that I don't need, stay in my 7th, 8th, 9th etc screens. It's the same as if I had them in drawer.
What I said is the CONCEPT of drawer was designed in the days when phones had scarse RAM and drawer was invented to comsume memory when using launcher. I didn't say that you must not use drawer, you may do what you see fit. It's just that I don't need drawer no more and em not using it
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I seriously have no idea what you are saying in this statement. There's no scheduled reboot in stock Oreo, that I have seen.
EDIT: Apparently on some phones you can schedule a reboot ONCE A WEEK. And you can't really control the time to the minute. It's "within one hour of the time you set"?
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Yes, LG G7 and probabaly V30 has such ability. I thought it could reboot once a day but my mistake, only once a week. Anyway I don't see need in such feature, I may reboot phone mystelf when I think most proper time. Maybe before I'm gonna put it on charge.
Ahyway I see no need for scripted reboots neither in Android nor in Windows
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You should use iPhone then
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I can play with my phone, I can surf, I can listen MQA music, I can shoot HDR10 video. There's nothing that I can't which I could do if I'll root phone or install custom ROM on it
That's what I'm trying to say. Back in the 2011 day when you fought for 6500 in Antutu and custom kernel could gain you 6800 you couldn't be happier. But noadays it's vain
Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?
I'm gonna set mine up and use it like normal, just no updating at all until a root methods is discovered, preferably one with an unlocked bootloader and that doesn't trip Knox. I haven't had a Galaxy device since the Note 4, Knox is still a thing, right?
Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?
Rooting has become a more difficult process in the last few recent years. I'm pretty sure the snapdragon variant is the one that likely won't get a root method or that it will be a long while until it comes around - I could be wrong and not trying to spread misinformation...
Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.
While I can obviously live without root since I did pre-order this phone, i will still be a bit sad without Viper4Android
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Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?
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You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snapdragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.
If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.
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Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?
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I did see that option under the dev menu, but I didnt try to use it, because AFAIK, bootloader unlocking is only the first step towards a properly rooted device....
Is there any advantage for unlocking the bootloader (before a rooting method is discovered) that I'm missing?
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Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.
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Here are my main reasons:
1. Titanium backup - need I say more?
2. Get rid of bloatware
3. Properly block ads
You'll find plenty of other reasons here: https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/all-reasons-you-should-root-your-phone-0189131/
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You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snaodragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.
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roaduardo said:
If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.
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Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?
Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?
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Fair
When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo
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When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo
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I'm aware that rooting will wipe my device clean - thats the reason I brought the question up...
But - are there any other steps in the currently known Samsung rooting methods that will also wipe my phone?
In other words - if I'll unlock the bootloader now (and factory reset my phone) - will I be able to root & keep my data and setup in the future (once a rooting method is discovered)?
My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.
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My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.
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Oh man don't even mention Titanium Backup. I had many rooted Moto phones from the original thru the G4 and even did some rom development with them. Titanium Backup was one of the first and best apps I ever paid for. The one good thing about Motos though , it was almost impossible to brick a Moto.
Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
First time with pie? Why are you trolling the forum reposting this question instead of spending a minute looking?
After you tap build number and it tells you that developer options have been enabled, go back to the top level menu and scroll all the way down. It's at the very bottom.
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Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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Don't give people heart attacks like that, lol. Gotta have developed options at least to speed up the animations.
roaduardo said:
My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
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Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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It's under /Settings/System in Pie
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Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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Where are you from?
jitz said:
Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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LUCKY!
edopa said:
Where are you from?
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Israel,
It seems that all of the S10 variants sold here supports call recording out of the box.
Title says is all really, pretty sure that the bootloader still needs unlocking, just I remember being able to root without unlocking the bootloader, without having TWRP /Clockwork mod in the past.
Tried a few of them with no luck, any way this can be done..
I've kind of given up on the bootloader unlock code and thus the ability to flash a rom (even though Huawei allowed this device to be treble compatible, evil bast****)
Would any exploits work?
Be good to at least get root on this crippled bloatfest excuse for an android device.
Nope. Nothing will work
The Restless Soul said:
Nope. Nothing will work
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Why?
dladz said:
Why?
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Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't do nothing.
The Restless Soul said:
Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't do nothing.
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Yep I got that pal..
But you've missed the point.
Why?
Unlocking the bootloader was not always necessary.
Certain devices yes but how to know??
Installing TWRP to a partition is impossible without removing the checking system which is inherently what a locked bootloader brings.
But I'm not talking about that, nor am I talking about installing a custom ROM..
Only root, nothing more.
dladz said:
Yep I got that pal..
But you've missed the point.
Why?
Unlocking the bootloader was not always necessary.
Certain devices yes but how to know??
Installing TWRP to a partition is impossible without removing the checking system which is inherently what a locked bootloader brings.
But I'm not talking about that, nor am I talking about installing a custom ROM..
Only root, nothing more.
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We are talking about huawei here lmao. I don't think there is any possibility to root it, unless you unlock the bootloader.
There was a trick but it got fixed, which is to replace erecovery with TWRP and root the phone.
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Why?
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All the "click to root" apps were using certain exploits/privilege escalation vulnerabilities. With Android development those holes were patched by Google on Android level and by most OEMs on their custom versions level.
The Restless Soul said:
We are talking about huawei here lmao. I don't think there is any possibility to root it, unless you unlock the bootloader.
There was a trick but it got fixed, which is to replace erecovery with TWRP and root the phone.
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Any idea which firmware that was available on? Was it oreo? I can go back to that.
arty_a said:
All the "click to root" apps were using certain exploits/privilege escalation vulnerabilities. With Android development those holes were patched by Google on Android level and by most OEMs on their custom versions level.
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Cheers, any idea what was the last one which was exploitable?
I can roll back to 8.1 on hisuite.
I don't see much of a difference between oreo and pie. From what I remember anyway.
dladz said:
Any idea which firmware that was available on? Was it oreo? I can go back to that.
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Emui 5.0, unfortunately.
The Restless Soul said:
Emui 5.0, unfortunately.
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5?? Hahaha awesome. Lol
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Emui 5.0, unfortunately.
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That's from a time when Huawei were like " hi XDA, could you help us please, we'll be your best friend"
XDA should have stuck a nice big middle finger up to them...
I hate Huawei so much.
dladz said:
That's from a time when Huawei were like " hi XDA, could you help us please, we'll be your best friend"
XDA should have stuck a nice big middle finger up to them...
I hate Huawei so much.
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If i wasn't short on cash, i could had bought an s10 plus or iphone, but oh well.
The Restless Soul said:
If i wasn't short on cash, i could had bought an s10 plus or iphone, but oh well.
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Honestly, OnePlus 7T pro, it's just a phenomenal phone, all the things im miss are just there and not a sniff of a company locking anything down.
It's butter smooth. I used my pro next to the 7t pro and honestly it's an incredible difference, it's like playing a game at 144hz for the first time, 60 just can't cut it ever again.
I'm going to let this can run down and get the 8, I usually upgrade 2-3 times a year but thought I'd give it a miss this year.. kind of glad I did but it's paining me now as my bootloader is screwed and there's only so much I can do without root.
I'd love to remove the swap memory (page file /zram) but I don't think it's possible.
Swap torpedo did this and the speed increase is amazing.
PS: I wouldn't bother with the S10 it's not as good as the oneplus devices tbh. S11 might compete but it's still Samsung so nah not for me.
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Honestly, OnePlus 7T pro, it's just a phenomenal phone, all the things im miss are just there and not a sniff of a company locking anything down.
It's butter smooth. I used my pro next to the 7t pro and honestly it's an incredible difference, it's like playing a game at 144hz for the first time, 60 just can't cut it ever again.
I'm going to let this can run down and get the 8, I usually upgrade 2-3 times a year but thought I'd give it a miss this year.. kind of glad I did but it's paining me now as my bootloader is screwed and there's only so much I can do without root.
I'd love to remove the swap memory (page file /zram) but I don't think it's possible.
Swap torpedo did this and the speed increase is amazing.
PS: I wouldn't bother with the S10 it's not as good as the oneplus devices tbh. S11 might compete but it's still Samsung so nah not for me.
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If oneplus could had provided water resistance to their phones since now they have flagship prices...
That is a bit important to me. But let's see if Huawei redeems themselves.
dladz said:
Cheers, any idea what was the last one which was exploitable?
I can roll back to 8.1 on hisuite.
I don't see much of a difference between oreo and pie. From what I remember anyway.
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Can't really help you with that, mate, sorry...
Stopped playing around with root/android about 2 years ago. In fact, the last time I rooted a phone was on android 7... I like my banking apps running on my phone and really don't think rooting the phone has any advantages, but does add certain security concerns.
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If oneplus could had provided water resistance to their phones since now they have flagship prices...
That is a bit important to me. But let's see if Huawei redeems themselves.
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They have got water resistance, they just don't put a rating on it. But I assure you that is there 100% check out the dip tests that have been done 100% of times
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Can't really help you with that, mate, sorry...
Stopped playing around with root/android about 2 years ago. In fact, the last time I rooted a phone was on android 7... I like my banking apps running on my phone and really don't think rooting the phone has any advantages, but does add certain security concerns.
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I use my banking apps with root.
Things I need.
Root access to files for tweaks.
Page file removal
Bloat removal
Ad removal ( I can't tell you how much I don't like adverts)
Mods that Devs miss (CRT animation, Audio Boost etc)
Custom ROMs: more efficient, faster, feature rich
Latest OS
Early releases
If I didn't mod my phone using root id be bored in weeks (which I am) or I'd buy an IPhone.
First works for me on root, I just agreed when the notification same up.
For the ones that don't, the mobile version of the web page works perfectly for me, dependent on bank of course.
The trade off just isn't worth it for me especially with emui which is abysmally tedious and something I'd love to just delete from history.
dladz said:
They have got water resistance, they just don't put a rating on it. But I assure you that is there 100% check out the dip tests that have been done 100% of times
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I mean, it is, but it is SPLASH proof. But still, i might take oneplus in consideration. Maybe oneplus 8?
The Restless Soul said:
I mean, it is, but it is SPLASH proof. But still, i might take oneplus in consideration. Maybe oneplus 8?
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Again no, check the videos pal..submersed and functional..
The nexus 6 was the same.
Google it. Don't take my word for it.
I'm aiming for the 8