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Hey All,
I'm having a very hard time deciding whether to get the HTC HD7 or the Samsung Focus and was wondering if any of you could help out.
I'm going to post this in the Samsung Focus Forum as well to get their side of things so I mainly want to know from the HD7 owner's side of the story.
HTC HD7
Large 4.3" Screen (the main reason I want to get it)
Really nice design - mainly screen (Focus has too much plastic around the screen)
16GB Built in memory with option to void warranty and upgrade
Kickstand which will be useful since there are no docks available.
Dual LED flash - not too important for me as I hear the HD7 camera isn't too great.
Heavier than the Focus - seriously, I do prefer a denser phone
Comes with free GPS Navigation Software.
Samsung Focus
Amazing 4" SAMOLED display (although it is smaller than the HD7). I have a Zune HD and the quality of that screen is amazing.
Design is OK, a little plasticky for my taste
Very light, this is an advantage (even though I prefer a denser phone) as it is less noticeable in your pocket.
8GB NAND memory which appears to be much, much faster than the HD7 with the option to upgrade to 40GB with a 32GB card without voiding warranty. 16GB is probably enough for me but 8GB is definitely too small.
According to reviews, has an excellent camera.
Now my decision is even harder because I will not be able to see the devices until I buy one as I live in South Africa and will be getting a relative to send the device out to me. I will be immigrating to the US in less than a years time so if I get the HD7 I will be going with T-Mobile and if I get the Focus I will be going with AT&T as my SP. (Is one better / cheaper than the other?)
I hope you guys can provide me with some information to sway me either way
Thanks,
Jonno
Hi Jonno!
I kind of understand how you are feeling right now because I was also in this situation and when WP7 launched on 11th October I wanted to buy the Omnia 7. It depends what you really need/want from a phone.
Personally , I am not into S-AMOLED screens because of the lower sharpness and I am also not too overwhelmed by having the guy next to me reading all my messages etc. Vibrant colors is cool but you'll get bored of this pretty fast.
The official micro-SD support one the most important advantages if you ask me and NAND is indeed faster BUT I also think apps are not yet optimised for HD7's memory and might see an update soon ,because let's face it, the hardware is there and it can help.
Also a larger battery the 1500 one but the S-AMOLED screen kinda compensates the bigger battery and good sAR values but honestly I wouldn't mind having a 1500 in my HD7
For me, when I pay big cash for a phone I want to have a good-looking one and I might refuse a bit better specs for a gorgeous design which HD7 clearly has.
So, if you want a phone that simply has the specs go for the Samsung, if you want a sexy phone with a BIG display go for the HD7.
P.S. Are you saying you will be buying it in an almost 1 year time ? Ouch , by then you will have a better OS and other devices as well
Hi yly3,
Thanks very much for that advice.
I'm not necessarily after the best specs, I just want to be happy with my decision and I will never be happy until I research all of the options and am sure that I know what I want to do.
Yeah, I'm not too worried about the viewing angles (would also rather have poor angles so that I have my phone to myself). I just noticed in the Focus videos that the display seems almost surreal - the visuals just appeared on the top of the device as if there was no screen.
I'm also wondering about the speed of the two devices. If I get a Focus I will most likely be adding a SD card to it anyway so it'd be interesting to know the performance changes when a card is added to the Focus.
Yeah, as long as the battery lasts me the whole day I'm fine. Will charge it at nights anyway.
I would like this phone to act as a bit of an ambassador for the platform as I'm not sure when it's going to be launched in this country.
Oh, and no, I will be moving to the States in a year but hopefully purchase the device before the end of the month.
S-AMOLED or not the battery will last a little bit longer than HD7's one. Although reading through Microsoft forums I saw that there is not much of a difference between the batteries, Samsung might win in standby mode or using the phone only as a phone.
About the cards, it seems Microsoft is on this one and recommends we wait for the "official seal of approval cards" from them for the best performance. When those will be available , there is no word yet , in my opinion somewhere in Q2 if you ask me but that's just a wild guess.
A small reminder is that the Samsung has slightly less RAM (512 vs HD7's 576) but I am sure it's not a deal breaker anyway ..
If this helps you with anything Bill Gates' phone is the Focus
Yeah, as long as the performance of the HD7 is not a problem, and from what I've read it isn't, then I don't really mind.
If you add a card to the Focus and fill it up I doubt the performance will be any better that the HD7. As MicroSD cards improve it may be possible to upgrade to faster cards anyway.
Does anyone have any experience on how much bigger the 4.3" screen is than the 4" screen? From the pictures it looks to be quite a bit smaller.
Since the big deciding factor is the screen display, please take the time to read this thread I posted regarding AMOLED color representation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840883
Also, watch some review videos comparing the two!
Here's a good one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTLfGbvNATA
Also, since the phones are so similarly spec'd with the main difference being the screen, you should focus (pun!) more of you decision on which carrier is better.
For example, where are you moving to in the US? ATT has a stronger signal in the northeast but tmobile is much better in the south and west coast. The 3g speeds also vary depending on your location and if you use a lot of mobile data, expect to pay more for ATT since they no longer offer unlimited data plans.
Overall, you can expect to pay about 10 dollars less for the same plan on Tmobile vs ATT.
But like I said, service and reception should be your ultimate deciding factor since both phones are almost identical and priced the same.
Good luck with your decision!
One thing that I must say about the Samsung Focus that most people leave out of their reviews is that the back of the phone scratches very easily. Compare it to the iphone chrome rim and you get what I mean. It's been a week since my friend bought his focus and the back has already shown some wear and tear and he pretty much babys his phone. So if you do plan on getting the focus make sure you get a case or whatever.
Also, if you are looking for an "ambassador" device, always go with htc since developers on xda focus more of their time developing on htc devices. I mean the HTC XDA II was the reason why this forum was created!
About prices: everything unlimited- Text, Minutes, & Data.
On T Mobile you ll be paying between $80-$90 a month. But 3g is spotty and indoor 3g sucks with T mobile and I live in south florida. Every time I call to complaint they say their working on it, and thats been for three years now.
On AT&T you will be paying between $135-$145 a month for same service.
only difference is At&T has 3G coverage in way more areas than T mobile.
and they dont have the indoor problem with their 3G.
I have till Monday to return my HD7 and Im still debating on what to do cause Im off contract already. I love the phone but what I like most is the OS, Microsoft has done a beautiful job. Still needs a little touch here and there but awesome start I think. I would love to get the samsung focus phone from AT&T but as you see the prices are way more, I guess thats the price you gotta pay for better service. and Verizon is just as expensive. Sprint is the cheapest but the W7 phone they are coming out with is to small for my taste.
yly3 said:
S-AMOLED or not the battery will last a little bit longer than HD7's one. Although reading through Microsoft forums I saw that there is not much of a difference between the batteries, Samsung might win in standby mode or using the phone only as a phone.
About the cards, it seems Microsoft is on this one and recommends we wait for the "official seal of approval cards" from them for the best performance. When those will be available , there is no word yet , in my opinion somewhere in Q2 if you ask me but that's just a wild guess.
A small reminder is that the Samsung has slightly less RAM (512 vs HD7's 576) but I am sure it's not a deal breaker anyway ..
If this helps you with anything Bill Gates' phone is the Focus
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It seems that for cards right now, the ones to get are sandisk class2, those are the ones that people have gotten to work in the hd7s and the ones that are now coming out microsoft certified.
Jonno2343 said:
Yeah, as long as the performance of the HD7 is not a problem, and from what I've read it isn't, then I don't really mind.
If you add a card to the Focus and fill it up I doubt the performance will be any better that the HD7. As MicroSD cards improve it may be possible to upgrade to faster cards anyway.
Does anyone have any experience on how much bigger the 4.3" screen is than the 4" screen? From the pictures it looks to be quite a bit smaller.
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mrroey said:
Also, since the phones are so similarly spec'd with the main difference being the screen, you should focus (pun!) more of you decision on which carrier is better.
For example, where are you moving to in the US? ATT has a stronger signal in the northeast but tmobile is much better in the south and west coast. The 3g speeds also vary depending on your location and if you use a lot of mobile data, expect to pay more for ATT since they no longer offer unlimited data plans.
Overall, you can expect to pay about 10 dollars less for the same plan on Tmobile vs ATT.
But like I said, service and reception should be your ultimate deciding factor since both phones are almost identical and priced the same.
Good luck with your decision!
One thing that I must say about the Samsung Focus that most people leave out of their reviews is that the back of the phone scratches very easily. Compare it to the iphone chrome rim and you get what I mean. It's been a week since my friend bought his focus and the back has already shown some wear and tear and he pretty much babys his phone. So if you do plan on getting the focus make sure you get a case or whatever.
Also, if you are looking for an "ambassador" device, always go with htc since developers on xda focus more of their time developing on htc devices. I mean the HTC XDA II was the reason why this forum was created!
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Definitely want to keep the carriers in mind. At&t will get you signal just about anywhere, but doesn't have the best 3g/4g network so your data may suffer.
Tmobile isn't as widespread as the others, but if you live in a city chances are you are good. I live in San Antonio and always have reception (hspa+)
Yeah i also need an advice. Thinking between Samsung Omnia 7 or HTC HD7
HTC HD7
-better design
-bigger screen
Samsung Omnia 7
-better screen
-better battery life
can anyone help me to choose?
Hmm.. It definitely seems like I'll be going with T-Mobile then as AT&T sound too be just a little too expensive.
Thanks for the link on the Color Reproduction, very interesting!
Also interesting to hear about the Focus scratching, I imagine they used too thin a plastic to make it terribly durable.
Since I'll be stuck in South Africa for another year, the carrier isn't too much of an issue for me right now and I will only be able to fully determine which is best once I've tried them out in the places I'll be.
The HD7 always stuck out as me as the phone to get and I think as I look at it, it's turning out to be the better choice.
Does anyone think it's better to hold off till later next year? Maybe better devices (dual core, etc)? Looks like quite a few more coming next year according to http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/how-htc-and-samsung-look-at-their-windows-phone-7-futures
But then again I can't wait until the next best thing comes out as there will always be some better coming out.
Thanks for all of the responses!
Regarding your concern about waiting another year for updated specs, you will feel the exact same way next year when your buying your newer phone. Think about it in the perspective of an iPhone user...they know for a fact that a new upgraded iphone is coming out in a year but nonetheless theres no talk about waiting another year to see what might be released whether its dual core or 10mp cameras.
The truth of the matter is technology will always be doubling in specs at an exponential rate so theres not point in waiting for a year cuz of course there will be better phones and hardware.
Ever since I bought my first G1, I always upgrade my phone in a year or sometimes less either due to better hardware released or just because I get bored easily. And after I buy the newer phone, I just sell my old one. At most i'll be spending about 100-150 to "upgrade."
For example. I sold my iphone 3gs on craigslist for 350 this summer and bought an iPhone 4 for 450 which was a pretty good deal. I then sold my iphone 4 for 500 and bought an hd2 for 250. And then I recently switched to the hd7 buying it for 450 with no contract.
So don't worry about holding off on buying a phone. They seem to improve at a faster rate than computers/tvs so its really not worth keeping around older hardware that grows more obsolete day by day.
Thanks for that.
Good to hear that you can sell them again for a respectable price.
One problem with technology is that very few people want to buy the old stuff if they have a choice so it's nice to know that it is not so for smart phones.
HD 7 for sure. The differences in AMOLED or whatever is not enough to make up for the sheer 4.3 inch size on the HD7. I loved it on my HD2 and told myself I would never go back to anything smaller. And I meant it. The HD7 is hands above as far as stylish looks and the "WOW" factor when you or someone else picks it up. Bottom line is, better looking phone with about the same performance across the board due to the OS just being that much more efficient.
Jonno2343 said:
Thanks for that.
Good to hear that you can sell them again for a respectable price.
One problem with technology is that very few people want to buy the old stuff if they have a choice so it's nice to know that it is not so for smart phones.
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Last generation Android (Moto Droid, Nexus One, Desire) and iOS phones are usually in great demand since most people won't pay $500+ premium prices for the top of the line phones.
The majority of XDA community make up the small percentage of hardcore phone users that are willing to shell out however much for the newest spankn phones.
For your situation, as long as WP7 doenst end up flopping like the Palm webOS, you can expect the resell value of the HD7 to be pretty good in a year.
Had the same problem.
Solved, but wont tell you how
->> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833140
hi peeps,
At least in the 1Ghz cpu weight devision, is it still worth buying at ~US$545? i'm not that impressed with the past and current 1Ghz offerings. My main concern is software updates -- which, ironically, was why i hesitated buying the SGS a year ago. But then Samsung appears to have released a Gingerbread update ahead of everyone else( *cough* HTC *cough*), has even announced that it won't lock the bootloader, and appears to have a ton of custom ROMs and just as much "unofficial" developer support.
Then again, the projected price range of the dual core monsters coming in May isn't really that big; imho a US$100 price premium is well worth it for me.
I think as of right now, anyone who wants a phone should wait for the SGSII, but as for buying the SGS, im glad i bought it when i did (jan). The community make it what it is. If there wasnt custom roms to speed the phone up then i would have been bitterly disapointed with the lag of a stock SGS, yes gingerbread is quick but its been awhile in the making.
One year and another month different story SGS 2 on sale SGS 1 at a cheaper price .
jje
Nope. Save your money for SGS2 or dual-core HTCm whatever suits you.
I would definitely hang on for whichever dual core floats your boat, be it HTC or SGS II. As good as the SGS is (I love mine) it will struggle to compete with the heavyweight dual core handsets.
Get a Tegra 2 based device. See how much juice they consume though.
SGS 2 is silly big, well for me personally, there ought to be some constraints to limit overall size of device, afterall its mobile phones we're talking about. Bigger devices defeat the purpose of having a mobile phone and tend to look rather unprofessional, more like portable gaming devices.
I'm going to take the opposite opinion to many on here.
+es
SGS is a solid, reliable, known platform, that just keeps improving with each android revision.
not possible to have a problem that can't be answered by reading here
****load of 3rd party hardware, from spare batteries on up
-es
doesn't have dual core, waaa waaa my penis isn't big enough, go and buy 3 spare batteries to run the dual core SGS2, better still buy a laptop, because the only people I have seen with ANY kind of computing power problems are frankly assholes who could bring a cray to its knees in a week.
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phones have got to the place desktops got with 3ghz cpu's and xp/linux, almost nobody actually needs faster more than 0.5% of the time.
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The next big revolution is going to be in battery tech, when you can get 5000 mAh into the volume and mass of 1000 mAh today, that will open new doors
thermal rejection of an SGS at full battery draining whack is already as high as you can go and stay healthy silicon wise.
just be grateful it ain't x86.... (speaking as someone who used to run 64bit MIPS Cobalt RAQ2's back in the day when they were the new kid on the block... wow, an empty pizza box with not even any heatsinks on the silicon...)
save your money for SGS II
i just bought mine last week. got it for around $470 (8GB version) in Vietnam. the reason i got it was mainly due to the great screen as well as the strong community developer support which coming from the Galaxy Spica is a BIG difference in the overall user experience. I love tech and love tinkering with my phone. I don't believe dual core will make that much of a difference unlike on a laptop/desktop where you really have to run multiple programs (note: antivirus). I know my SGS will be astounding as soon as the devs finish tweaking the heck out of the GB code!
If you are going to pay that kind of price (around 500$) and you care about updates, why don't you get a Nexus S ?
Same phone, slightly better and corrected hardware-wise. It is supported by Google and CyanogenMod.
I think it's worth considering buying second hand. I just bought a 1 month old handset for quite a bit less than a new one. It's in perfect condition. And I'll use it for the next year and then upgrade when the SGSII (and others like it) are down to a reasonable price. Rinse and repeat (too expensive to be on the bleeding edge all the time ).
benoitb85 said:
If you are going to pay that kind of price (around 500$) and you care about updates, why don't you get a Nexus S ?
Same phone, slightly better and corrected hardware-wise. It is supported by Google and CyanogenMod.
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the deal breaker for me on the nexus s was the lack of micro SD support
mmjuban said:
the deal breaker for me on the nexus s was the lack of micro SD support
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I had 2 deal breakers...
No microsd slot and no fm radio.
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depends on $$$$
Johnny55555555 said:
I'm going to take the opposite opinion to many on here.
+es
SGS is a solid, reliable, known platform, that just keeps improving with each android revision.
not possible to have a problem that can't be answered by reading here
****load of 3rd party hardware, from spare batteries on up
-es
doesn't have dual core, waaa waaa my penis isn't big enough, go and buy 3 spare batteries to run the dual core SGS2, better still buy a laptop, because the only people I have seen with ANY kind of computing power problems are frankly assholes who could bring a cray to its knees in a week.
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phones have got to the place desktops got with 3ghz cpu's and xp/linux, almost nobody actually needs faster more than 0.5% of the time.
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The next big revolution is going to be in battery tech, when you can get 5000 mAh into the volume and mass of 1000 mAh today, that will open new doors
thermal rejection of an SGS at full battery draining whack is already as high as you can go and stay healthy silicon wise.
just be grateful it ain't x86.... (speaking as someone who used to run 64bit MIPS Cobalt RAQ2's back in the day when they were the new kid on the block... wow, an empty pizza box with not even any heatsinks on the silicon...)
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I agree. SGS is still a great buy.
honestly, i do find dual cores a bit of an overkill for phones...but yeah, the price diff is just too close, esp. if you compare it with the G2X. dual core it is then. i just wish HTC(and all the other brands) would stop with the signed bootloader crap.
Then again, once the other dual cores come out, then the SGS drops to US$350...hmm...
badkuk said:
hi peeps,
At least in the 1Ghz cpu weight devision, is it still worth buying at ~US$545?
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For sure it wasn't worth buying one year ago when I bought mine...
maybe it's like wine, the older the better
Soulbrighter
In Austria, you get the I9000 for 299€ .
A year ago, I paid the same + 24 months contract...
As you look around and see the tons of fixes / mods / developments, I would suggest, this is a very good buy even though I guess, SGS 2 is quite interesting as well...
Kind regards,
ww
in scotland you can get galaxy s's from £170 second hand on gumtree.
most are around £200 but to me thats still a bargain
regards
I have to decide between these two tables and I’m struggling. Sometimes it helps to verbalize my thoughts so I’m making a post. My goal is to hear your opinions and share my views on these two tablets, which are both great devices in different ways. I bought the Tab S 8.4 two weeks ago and received the Z3 tablet last week. I’ve had some time to play with both and I’ve come up with my personal list of pros and cons.
Tab S 8.4 (T700)
Pros:
Price - $360CAD = $400CAD taxes in
Display – higher res and OLED saturation, also slightly larger
Dev Community is active
Appearance – I really like the titanium/bronze color combo, it looks like a professional device
Cons:
Battery Life – Typical use I was getting ~5hrs of SOT with mixed gaming/clashing/browsing [Improvable w/ root]
Touchwiz bloat [Fixable’ish w/ root]
Performance – I’m listing this on-top of the Touchwiz lag because I’m not convinced the processor is enough to push the pixels under high demand. I was playing Hearthstone and the loading times were noticeably longer than on the Z3.
Physical buttons – After years of using android devices with on-screen buttons it’s hard for me to revert to using the hardware button on the Samsung. Even more confusing switching to landscape mode and having to use the hardware button on the right. [Fixable w/ root]
Neutral:
IR Blaster is nice to have
Fingerprint reader is nice, but I found it very finnnicky. Plus I will generally not lock this device because it’s being used at home 90% of the time.
Z3 Compact Tablet (SGP612)
Pros:
Battery Life – consistently getting 8+hrs of SOT with the same usage
Handling – the lighter weight and slightly smaller size make the tablet easier to handle
Software – Sony’s android software is close to stock and runs fast. Plus their built-in features (ex. Stamina mode, doubletap to wake) work very well
Remoteplay – PS4 controller / console connectivity is cool.
Design – nice industrial design overall, solid build quality.
Cons:
Price - $520CAD = $600CAD all-in. This tablet is 50% more expensive (inc. 32gb on-board vs 16gb on the Samsung) in my case.
Developer community – very small XDA community for this device right now.
Color – only the white version is sold in Canada and I’m not keen on all-white devices. The Tab S is much more appealing IMO.
Neutral:
Waterproof – I have no interest in testing this.
Display – smaller and lower res, but still a very good screen. Not a deciding factor IMO.
Integration w/ Sony Phones – I saw one review saying this was awesome but I don’t see much value. You can set the tablet up so it connects to your xperia phone using NFC and then you can use the phones mobile signal for data and also get calls/texts routed to the tablet. I won’t get much value out of this feature. Plus, I couldn’t get the NFC handshake to work (Z3TC on 4.4 stock, Z3C on 5.0 rooted).
tl;dr: I think I’ll return the Sony and stick with the Tab S. Price is the main deciding factor. I also think the Tab S is more visually appealing which is important to me. Rooting & customizing the Tab S should fix a lot of what I dislike about it and I like the active community here. I wish I could justify the price of the Z3 but the incremental performance and battery life just aren’t compelling enough. My typical use-case is playing games/browsing on the couch or hotel room. The Tab S is capable enough to play the games I want (Hearthstone, Clash of Clans) and the battery life is enough to last an evening at home or a domestic flight. I've realized that battery longevity on a tablet is way less important to me than on a phone.
Just a note
Hardware / Software Button is not Pro/Con.
Its preference.
Appearance also preference.
Would be interesting to know if the cons about lag are less with lollipop.
lynxblaine said:
Would be interesting to know if the cons about lag are less with lollipop.
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I think there is definitely less lag with lollipop, almost non existent
Physical buttons can be huge advantage on a device with 16:10 screen ratio, especially below 8.5 inches. On screen buttons in a landscape mode take some space, which makes i.e. browsing web in a landscape very unpleasant. In recent days Xperia Z tablet had those buttons merged with status bar, so it was one black bar less than todays software. Think about it.
About display: Tab S of mine has a little brownish whites (even in comparision to other Tab S) which I hate. I guess Im not a Amoled fan, would rather have a IPS LCD on this tablet. And It is Pentile, so when you once notice it, it will never be unnoticed Colors are great, but its not perfect yet.
About software: I think that Xperia's software is more elegant, neat, clean and fluid than touch wiz. But it is only my opinion.
Would I change my Tab S for Z3 tablet compact? Definitely not, beacause that 8 inch screen with on-screen-buttons is simply too small. But I would change for Xperia Z4 tablet, Nexus 9 or Z2 tablet without hesitation.
GOF007 said:
Just a note
Hardware / Software Button is not Pro/Con.
Its preference.
Appearance also preference.
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As I said, this was a personal list and is all my opinion.
lynxblaine said:
Would be interesting to know if the cons about lag are less with lollipop.
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I'm curious too. Now that I'm planning to meet the Tab I may also try flash some l
KK Roms to see how a tuned ROM performs.
Frantic_kr said:
Physical buttons can be huge advantage on a device with 16:10 screen ratio, especially below 8.5 inches.
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The biggest thing for new is that these physical buttons are backwards! Multi task should be on the right and the back button on the left, just like the nav bar on my other devices. My brain feels dumb when I keep smashing the recent apps key on the Tab while trying to navigate back
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I prefer on tab s 8.4
+best screen ppi tablet
+can call
+ average camera for tablet,
+ hancom office include ( best for bussines))
i'm really trying to wrap my head around their differences ,
by now, the price became comparable, in some cases the z3 is even cheaper than the tab S,
but the samsung has a bigger screen for roughly the same form factor, therefore it would be the obvious choice (apart for the portrait physical buttons that i also don't see the point of )
but testimonials and some reviews, like this one here, mention some battery life issues , i wonder if it's all bloatware's fault, or if the tab really does have inferior battery life , as i've seen some reviews claiming otherwise ,
for travel usage battery life and weight are the most important criterias to me and the reviews just confuse me further , so does the samsung beat the sony after software updates?
the Z3 also have the advantages of waterproofing (you never know when you're gonna need it.. ), front-facing speakers, magnetic charger and some cooler softwares coming with it (EQ, screen calibration, a decent video player, and of course, the stamina mode !) and it's a tiny bit lighter too so it's definitely a tough choice
Nickie66 said:
i'm really trying to wrap my head around their differences ,
by now, the price became comparable, in some cases the z3 is even cheaper than the tab S,
but the samsung has a bigger screen for roughly the same form factor, therefore it would be the obvious choice (apart for the portrait physical buttons that i also don't see the point of )
but testimonials and some reviews, like this one here, mention some battery life issues , i wonder if it's all bloatware's fault, or if the tab really does have inferior battery life , as i've seen some reviews claiming otherwise ,
for travel usage battery life and weight are the most important criterias to me and the reviews just confuse me further , so does the samsung beat the sony after software updates?
the Z3 also have the advantages of waterproofing (you never know when you're gonna need it.. ), front-facing speakers, magnetic charger and some cooler softwares coming with it (EQ, screen calibration, a decent video player, and of course, the stamina mode !) and it's a tiny bit lighter too so it's definitely a tough choice
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Sony has backed off on their claims of what the waterproofing can do.. So that's not even a failure anymore since they won't back it up.
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i don't think "failure" is the term there
but i've seen their statement, to me it sounds more like a fool-proofing disclaimer, discouraging the prolongated and reckless use of the tablet underwater; it still has the IP65 and 68 rating, but since it relies on flaps, it's more "water resistant" than "waterproof"...
so that's still a plus, even if it's a smaller plus than expected maybe, you can still have the tablet survive weather and accidents contrary to those who have no ip68 rating at all
of course it should not be the deciding factor when chosing the tablet though...
personally i'm finally ordering the sony, because of the samsung's battery life and performance issues that seem kind of consistent among reviews , and even more so by this guy:
youtube.com/watch?v=CMKonSEd7zc
who had a tab S for months, but then bought a Z3TC out of frustration with the samsung..
Guys, I have owned a Tab S T-705 for almost a year now, and I can guarantee that this tablet has no battery-life nor performance issues. My Tab S battery lasts over two days on average, and with the proper ROM everything is very smooth. Just install any Lollipop custom ROM (I am on PowerRom), flash Xposed from arter97 ' thread, and convert to the new F2FS file system.
I know, it takes a bit of reading and hacking, but it is definitely worth the effort.
I am also happier with tab s 10.4 than with tablet z2 which had a lot of problems and i almost threw it on the floor and break it...sony sucks...never again sony neither tablet neither phone...they have to step up with the quality control (my brothers z3 has bad screen, my mothers z3c has also a lot of problems...no thanks...i admit battery life was better on tablet z2 and games were runing better due to the pixel density but everything else was frustrating (display problems, touch problems, sqeaking tablet,...) browsing with chrome is better with tab s it was laggier with the tablet z2 the system was not laggy on neither one...
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Guys, I have owned a Tab S T-705 for almost a year now, and I can guarantee that this tablet has no battery-life nor performance issues. My Tab S battery lasts over two days on average, and with the proper ROM everything is very smooth. Just install any Lollipop custom ROM (I am on PowerRom), flash Xposed from arter97 ' thread, and convert to the new F2FS file system.
I know, it takes a bit of reading and hacking, but it is definitely worth the effort.
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Coming from a Tab 7.7 (P6800), the battery life of the T700 is definitely awful. The battery lasts 1-2 days with light usage, while the 7.7 would go on for over a week with the same usage pattern. My experience with Sony phones say that the Z3C tablet should last much longer than this T700.
I have them both here side by side. My experience with both devices are more or less similar. Here is my personal list:
T700: Better display, it feels more solid, I like the speakers more eventhough they are located at the sides, more usable display area due to the capacitive buttons and the slightly bigger screen, the design is ugly, battery life is significanlty worse, performance is inferior but enough for me.
Z3 Tablet Compact (32GB): Nice design, doesn't feel as solid, slightly lighter, double tap to wake, better performance and battery life, faster software updates eventhough the 32GB version is still at 5.0.2. while the 16GB version already got 5.1.1. and can be updated manually to 6.0 beta from sony's homepage.
Verdict: Beeing waterproof is no deciding factor for me, nor are the front facing speakers. My Z3 Tablet Compact has a weird feel to it: when you touch the touchscreen it sounds hollow. Hence the T700 feels more solid. Pricewise the T700 is 50€ cheaper here in Germany (compared to the 16GB version of the Z3 Tablet Compact). I bought a used T700 for 200€ including a book cover and a 64GB SDXC card, so the T700 was quite a steal. A used 32GB Z3 Tablet Compact still runs you 300€. It really comes down to what you want and how much you are willing to pay. If the price is not an issue, then it would be an even harder decision because every device has it's pros and cons. In my particular case, I will keep the T700 since it was so cheap. If performance and battery life are you main criteria, then go for the Z3 Tablet Compact. The cons I've listed are noticeable mostly when you compare the device. The device itself is great! To make the decision even harder, what about the Zenpad S 8.0 CA? It has 64GB storage, 4GB of RAM, a Z3580 and an ok screen. It costs the same as the 16GB Sony here in Germany and has optional pen input.
While the V² may end up being an amazing phone, some of us can't wait for it to be released. (If it ever will be.)
This thread is for those who are looking for a phone with similar specs to the V².
Please keep this thread clean. Let's all be kind and respectful of others' opinions. :good:
Cullenator said:
While the V² may end up being an amazing phone, some of us can't wait for it to be released. (If it ever will be.)
This thread is for those who are looking for a phone with similar specs to the V².
Please keep this thread clean. Let's all be kind and respectful of others' opinions. :good:
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I have been looking and looking and looking. There isnt one. This is my dream phone:
- LG G2 sized, so 5.2" with small bezels.
- Removable, high capacity battery (3000mah+)
- Removable storage or affordable 64gb size
- Built in wireless charging
- 3gb+ ram
- Newer SoC
- Good camera with OIS
Thats it. Not asking for the moon. I can find some of those things in huge 5.5" + phones like the G4. I guess I will be getting used to a big phone again.
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This is probably as close as I am going to get if the rumored specs are true: http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-5-2015-price-release-date-specs-features
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I have been looking and looking and looking. There isnt one. This is my dream phone:
- LG G2 sized, so 5.2" with small bezels.
- Removable, high capacity battery (3000mah+)
- Removable storage or affordable 64gb size
- Built in wireless charging
- 3gb+ ram
- Newer SoC
- Good camera with OIS
Thats it. Not asking for the moon. I can find some of those things in huge 5.5" + phones like the G4. I guess I will be getting used to a big phone again.
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This is probably as close as I am going to get if the rumored specs are true: http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-5-2015-price-release-date-specs-features
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I hear ya, dude; I'm hoping the V2 makes it, but I can't wait unfortunately; my S3 is nearly dead. So yeah, we'll see. The G4 looks close, but it's way too big for me. Maybe the new Nexus will be almost as awesome as the proposed V2? We'll see.
Here are the features that made me pre-order the Saygus V². These are in particular order.
5" 1080p sunlight viewable screen. 2.5K resolution is overkill and just eats battery and I don't like phones with screens larger than 5".
Large removable battery.
Small bezels. This means the phone doesn't have a large footprint for it's screen size like the iPhone or Sony Z series.
64gb built in storage.
microSD slot. Dual wasn't important to me but having expandable memory was.
Optical image stabilization. It was nice that both cameras have it but I really wanted it in the main camera.
Waterproof.
Snapdragon 801.
3gb RAM.
The closest thing to this is the upcoming Galaxy S6 Active except the screen size is slightly large for my taste and it has 2.5K resolution. I can live with the built in battery if it's 3500mAh.
I was really hoping that Google would make a new version of the Nexus 5 with basically the same specs as the Nexus 6 except with a 5" 1080p screen. The only drawback to the Nexus series is that we almost definitely won't see one with a microSD card slot. I'm still surprised that Google didn't get someone to build an updated Nexus 5 yet, especially with the launch of Project Fi.
<rant>I wish the Android smartphone manufacturers (i.e. LG, OnePlus, etc) would realize that the majority of people don't want a screen over 5.5" and larger. How do I know this? Because Apple make the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus which have almost the exact same specs except for the screen size and resolution and based on this article 80% of the iPhone 6 models sold are the 4.7" version with the other 20% being the 5.5" version. If customers really wanted a smartphone with a really large screen then they'd be buying the 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus more than the 4.7" iPhone 6.</rant>
I originally was going to buy an S6, against my better judgement, until I found I could not buy a 128GB version, even from the AT&T store. I've considered the S5, but I can't find an unlocked 32GB version that works on 4G. I considered the Note 4, but I really don't want a phablet, and that's a lot of money to spend on a phone I feel I won't like due to its size. Also, it frustrates me that two of the main alternatives to the S6 I considered due to the S6's lack of expandable storage and removable battery are both Samsung's, so even if I did go with one of them, I would still be giving them money. Before any of this, I was looking at the Sony Xperia Z4, until that turned out to be a letdown, and then the Sony Xperia Z3, but again there is no 32GB unlocked version. Despite my hatred of Motorola, I even considered the Droid Turbo/Maxx, until I realized it lacks expandable storage. The G4 looks ok, but it's a bit large for my taste (though supposedly not as bad as other 5.5" phones), I really don't think I'd like the buttons on the back, and there are no real reviews yet of it. Not to mention it irritates me they're releasing two other "G4" versions that are nothing like the G4, but rather are stripped down junk. The Zenphone 2 is big and just seems cheap, which I get it is a cheap phone, but still. The S6 Active may end up being the closest thing to perfect, but I don't know how I'll like the physical buttons, and I think I'd rather it be less bulky so people that want the extra protection can use a case, but leave that up to the individual. I've pre-ordered the Elephone P7000, which looks like a really good phone for the price, but again, no 32GB version. Still, for the price, I can live with that for a few months until something better comes out. So many phones that are almost great, but fall short. I've been searching high and low for the past 2-3 months and it's getting tiresome. I'd love some other ideas, but I doubt anybody can point me to something I don't already know about.
My ideal phone matches up very much the same. If Samsung released a plastic body S4 v2 with more RAM, more built-in storage, updated CPU, 5" 1080p screen with otherwise S6 qualities, UFS 2.0, etc., while retaining the S4 size/weight, removable battery, and SD slot, I'd have little hesitation buying it, even if it cost the same as the S6. Doooosen't look like they're going to do that. A phone's looks don't matter to me, and I actually prefer the plastic body for weight and toughness factors. Doesn't have to be Samsung, but I've had an S4 for two years and having handling many phones, I find it gives the best fit in my hand while having an adequate sized screen of any phone yet.
The Saygus, if it proves to be the real deal, it's actually in the right size range and is loaded with so many features (2x SD is my favorite) that it has no real competition for my needs. As it stands, I'm most likely going to have to hold my nose and get a 128GB S6, which for me has no real competition as Plan B. I have no regrets with my S4 or S2, to me they were clearly the best phones for me on the market at time of purchase. But I want to vote with my wallet against the S6 because the removal of (to me) major features, but I might not have a suitable option. Also, I'm on TMOUS and most of the decent non-carrier devices won't work with their LTE bands and I'd lose WiFi Calling, so it's pretty much between Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, Alcatel, and Nexus. The S5 and M9 look like the next best options. The Saygus is the only outside phone under consideration at this point.
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The S5 and M9 look like the next best options. The Saygus is the only outside phone under consideration at this point.
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I have the LG G2 and at less than $200 for a new off contract phone it really is hard to beat. I considered the S5 only because it can have wireless charging added fairly easily, but the ROM support for the S5 isnt as good. But if they offered the S5 with 3gb ram, I think I would be in.
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I have the LG G2 and at less than $200 for a new off contract phone it really is hard to beat. I considered the S5 only because it can have wireless charging added fairly easily, but the ROM support for the S5 isnt as good. But if they offered the S5 with 3gb ram, I think I would be in.
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Thanks, the G2 might be the best short-term option. TMo has refurb G2s for $228 & no money down & $9.50/month. It's the other end of the spectrum in price with the S6, amongst phones without SD and removable battery. Only 32GB is a big step down from my S4, but for daily usage it would probably be fine. Having lots of extra storage and batteries is brilliant when needed, like spending the day in an airport and having tons of locally stored music/movie choices, but most of the time as a DD can be lived without. Other negatives: a little larger and heavier, and non-AMOLED screen. On the plus side, it's got a bit better CPU and larger screen size than the S4. And a lot cheaper than the S6, S5, M9. If it had SD and removable battery, it would be a no-brainer.
I broke my S4 screen and replaced it myself with a $6 piece of glass off ebay. It's worked great considering the price, but it's more reflective and the touch input is far from perfect. It's still functional, but annoying, & $9.50/month is pretty light, so I think I'll give that a shot. They have a 15 day trial period, too. In the long run, worst case scenario, I end up with a spare phone / mini WiFi tablet that only cost $228.
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I originally was going to buy an S6, against my better judgement, until I found I could not buy a 128GB version, even from the AT&T store. I've considered the S5, but I can't find an unlocked 32GB version that works on 4G. I considered the Note 4, but I really don't want a phablet, and that's a lot of money to spend on a phone I feel I won't like due to its size. Also, it frustrates me that two of the main alternatives to the S6 I considered due to the S6's lack of expandable storage and removable battery are both Samsung's, so even if I did go with one of them, I would still be giving them money. Before any of this, I was looking at the Sony Xperia Z4, until that turned out to be a letdown, and then the Sony Xperia Z3, but again there is no 32GB unlocked version. Despite my hatred of Motorola, I even considered the Droid Turbo/Maxx, until I realized it lacks expandable storage. The G4 looks ok, but it's a bit large for my taste (though supposedly not as bad as other 5.5" phones), I really don't think I'd like the buttons on the back, and there are no real reviews yet of it. Not to mention it irritates me they're releasing two other "G4" versions that are nothing like the G4, but rather are stripped down junk. The Zenphone 2 is big and just seems cheap, which I get it is a cheap phone, but still. The S6 Active may end up being the closest thing to perfect, but I don't know how I'll like the physical buttons, and I think I'd rather it be less bulky so people that want the extra protection can use a case, but leave that up to the individual. I've pre-ordered the Elephone P7000, which looks like a really good phone for the price, but again, no 32GB version. Still, for the price, I can live with that for a few months until something better comes out. So many phones that are almost great, but fall short. I've been searching high and low for the past 2-3 months and it's getting tiresome. I'd love some other ideas, but I doubt anybody can point me to something I don't already know about.
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I went through a similar decision making process except I never considered getting the Galaxy S6 after they got rid of the microSD slot, reduced the battery capacity and made it built in and didn't make it waterproof. Back in 2014 when the Galaxy S5 was released, I was also waiting for T-Mobile to release the 32gb version (even though it has expandable storage) because I was worried about running into storage issues for apps (because many apps can't be moved to a microSD card with KitKat) but none of the US carriers ever released the Galaxy S5 with 32gb. AFAIK only the international version was released with 32gb storage. Then after I learned that T-Mobile was rolling out LTE on band 12 (700 MHz block A) and the Galaxy S5 didn't support it then I wasn't interested in it anymore. Then I looked at the T-Mobile version of the Sony Xperia Z3 (which supports LTE on band 12) but those huge bezels really bothered me. It's a phone with a 5.2" screen that's almost as big as the Galaxy Note 4 which has a 5.7" screen. I decided to wait for the Xperia Z4 hoping that it would have optical image stabilization but unfortunately it didn't. Most recently I considered the HTC One M9 because it IMHO had the perfect screen size/resolution 5" 1080p, top of the line Snapdragon 810 processor, 32gb storage, microSD card slot, decent size battery but unfortunately no optical image stabilization in the camera. The Elephone P7000 looks interesting for the price but it looks like it's basically an upgraded OnePlus One but a 5.5" screen is just too big for me.
Options
The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option for those of you that are running current devices that are a couple of years old, but I don't think it offers enough of an upgrade from my Z3 Compact for me to consider. But, given the expected price and general specs I think this would be a great choice for most people. There is a little bit of me that is tempted to go for this device just to scratch my 'must buy a new phone' itch!
The Nubia Z9 (not Mini or Max, confusing nomenclature!) also looks like a well specced device, but there seems to be uncertainty about whether this has an SD card slot, plus it runs the Snapdragon 810 which seems to be a rather tainted SoC from what I read everywhere.
The Sharp Aquos Xx also looks interesting, 84% screen ratio but again Snapdragon 810 and I've no idea whether Sharp make decent phones or not...
Any options with dual boot phones
For me the main reason to order Saygus V² was the dual boot option, with the possibility to boot from microsd card. Is anyone aware of other smartphones with this feature?
hella356 said:
I actually prefer the plastic body for weight and toughness factors.
I want to vote with my wallet against the S6 because the removal of (to me) major features
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+1 on both counts
lukec36 said:
The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option
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Not for me. Non-removable battery, which I would be willing to overlook if all else was good and it had Quick Charge, but it does not (of course, all else being equal, I will always choose the phone with the removable battery, and if I were to buy one without, it would be a temp phone until a different one with a removable battery came out). Also, only 16GB internal memory is NOT enough. 32GB is minimum for me. The ONLY reason I ever got rid of my EVO 4G was because I was constantly getting low memory errors, and I don't want to deal with that again. I don't want to settle for a phone with less than 32GB internal and less than 96GB total memory, even a temporary one. At least the P7000 is very cheap and has otherwise good specs and a removable battery, so the internal memory is the only big sacrifice. Unfortunately, it looks like that one is out, too, and I need to cancel my order, because it doesn't work on AT&T's LTE.
Thanks
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
Zinguy said:
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
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Yeah that's the crazy part, I still want the V2 because of the features. I'm shocked that more people aren't worried about support after the sale from Saygus though.
Zinguy said:
Thanks for this thread. As much as I can't look away from the train wreck that is Saygus, I really do need to replace my outdated phone and leave the Apple compound and koolaid behind.
You'd think it would be easy to buy a decent phone with a swappable battery and expandable storage.
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The problem is most mainstream manufacturers seem to be heading towards sealed unit phones, and the majority have given up on SD support on flagships. Sony is a noticeable exception but their in life care leaves a lot to be desired - the official Sony phone forums are full of threads on issues that Sony refuses to officially acknowledge.
A lot of the 'cheaper' phones from Chinese manufacturers interest me, but there is always a compromise there. Honor's cheaper phones have non-backlit capacitive buttons. Meizu and Xiaomi seem to shun SD. Elephone seems a little left field. Most Chinese flagships are 5.5 inch.
What we all seem to agree on is that the V2 offered the fewest compromises, and everything else has at least one glaring black mark that we realistically are not able to swallow. Which makes the apparent train wreck of the V2 that much harder to take and ultimately is responsible for the sometime over emotional outbursts by the various pro/anti Saygus camps.
lukec36 said:
The ZTE Nubia Z9 Mini looks like a very good option for those of you that are running current devices that are a couple of years old, but I don't think it offers enough of an upgrade from my Z3 Compact for me to consider. But, given the expected price and general specs I think this would be a great choice for most people. There is a little bit of me that is tempted to go for this device just to scratch my 'must buy a new phone' itch!
The Nubia Z9 (not Mini or Max, confusing nomenclature!) also looks like a well specced device, but there seems to be uncertainty about whether this has an SD card slot, plus it runs the Snapdragon 810 which seems to be a rather tainted SoC from what I read everywhere.
The Sharp Aquos Xx also looks interesting, 84% screen ratio but again Snapdragon 810 and I've no idea whether Sharp make decent phones or not...
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Actually the ZTE Nubia Z9 does look pretty amazing. Only issue for me is no wireless charging and the price seems high. The Sharp Aquos Xx doesnt have a speaker. Not sure how I would like that.
This is an interesting alternative I saw on BGR but I doubt it will be available with support for US networks. It's made by a Chinese company called Innos and it has a 5.2-inch 1080p display, a Snapdragon 615 1.8GHz octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera, 3 GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and Android 5.0 Lollipop. The most interesting thing about it is that has dual batteries with a total capacity of 6000mAh, an internal one that's 2480mAh and an external replaceable one that's 3520mAh. I don't think it has a microSD memory card slot but if someone can read Chinese then the second link will have all the specs. I tried Google translate on the page but it didn't translate much.
http://bgr.com/2015/05/22/best-smartphone-battery-innos-d6000/
http://www.innos.com/yiluo/product.php?lang=cn&class2=168
Sam K said:
This is an interesting alternative I saw on BGR but I doubt it will be available with support for US networks. It's made by a Chinese company called Innos and it has a 5.2-inch 1080p display, a Snapdragon 615 1.8GHz octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 5-megapixel front-facing camera, 3 GB of RAM, 32GB of storage and Android 5.0 Lollipop. The most interesting thing about it is that has dual batteries with a total capacity of 6000mAh, an internal one that's 2480mAh and an external replaceable one that's 3520mAh. I don't think it has a microSD memory card slot but if someone can read Chinese then the second link will have all the specs. I tried Google translate on the page but it didn't translate much.
http://bgr.com/2015/05/22/best-smartphone-battery-innos-d6000/
http://www.innos.com/yiluo/product.php?lang=cn&class2=168
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Wow that looks really cool!
If someone knows of another phone with a reasonable screen size, removable battery, waterproofing, front facing speakers, expandable storage, a durable body material (i.e. not aluminum, something that doesn't need a case) and a fingerprint reader, I'd like to know about it.
Or at least most of those things.
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If someone knows of another phone with a reasonable screen size, removable battery, waterproofing, front facing speakers, expandable storage, a durable body material (i.e. not aluminum, something that doesn't need a case) and a fingerprint reader, I'd like to know about it.
Or at least most of those things.
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The Galaxy S5 meets most of your criteria. The only thing it lacks out of those is the front-facing speakers. I know, some people would argue it also doesn't have a "durable body," since it's made out of plastic, but I 100% disagree. My S4 was tough as hell, despite being plastic (and I actually think partly because of it, since plastic flexes and also weighs less, so less impact force when falling). I've thrown it so many times, to the point the case came off and the battery flew out once, and it never so much as got a scratch that I saw. And the only reason I put a case on it was because it was too thin and felt weird in the hand, and the case I used was a very slim one, so it didn't add much to the phone, just a tiny bit of extra thickness and a better grip. As much as I dislike Samsung right now, the S5 would be my next phone if it were available unlocked with 32GB internal memory.
hello,
I have some questions before buying the Z2 plus,
1. in a youtube video I saw one reviewer pointing out that this device is having screen unresponsive issue while charging ? is it true ?
2. is QC3 working with this device ? I've seen some people pointing out even with Qualcomm certified QC3 charger, they couldn't get the qc3 speeds ?
3. Is the device having overheating issues ?
4. How is the screen quality ? I've seen some people complaining colors of the Z2 are muted.
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hello,
I have some questions before buying the Z2 plus,
1. in a youtube video I saw one reviewer pointing out that this device is having screen unresponsive issue while charging ? is it true ?
2. is QC3 working with this device ? I've seen some people pointing out even with Qualcomm certified QC3 charger, they couldn't get the qc3 speeds ?
3. Is the device having overheating issues ?
4. How is the screen quality ? I've seen some people complaining colors of the Z2 are muted.
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1. Yes , it is true. But it's not that disturbing. The screen will not go totally unresponsive. But a little bit. You hardly find it irritating.
2. Never tried QC3 but some says it works. Whereas some says it dont. Maybe QC not enabled in the firmware.
3. Yes there is little bit overheating issue. Not a big problem as my friends xperia top of line premium smartphone also overheats . In Zuk z2 plus....Maybe it is because of the Plastic body. And the supplied back cover in the box will not let you notice the heating that much.
4. The colors are very sharp and quality is great as expected. I hardly notice any major muted color. But in comparison to AMOLED , yeah you can say a little bit difference is there. But overall its upto the mark.
cyBeRdUdE-9 said:
1. Yes , it is true. But it's not that disturbing. The screen will not go totally unresponsive. But a little bit. You hardly find it irritating.
2. Never tried QC3 but some says it works. Whereas some says it dont. Maybe QC not enabled in the firmware.
3. Yes there is little bit overheating issue. Not a big problem as my friends xperia top of line premium smartphone also overheats . In Zuk z2 plus....Maybe it is because of the Plastic body. And the supplied back cover in the box will not let you notice the heating that much.
4. The colors are very sharp and quality is great as expected. I hardly notice any major muted color. But in comparison to AMOLED , yeah you can say a little bit difference is there. But overall its upto the mark.
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To add my own experience:
1. Screen is a tiny bit unresponsive (has ghosting issues) and it's a bit noticeable if you're playing games that require multitouch, however I've never noticed it in regular usage, it really doesn't bother me. My old Nexus 5 has this issue x20. Battery life is really good though, I'm a medium-heavy user and I still get through the day with ~15% left over at the end of the day so you shouldn't need to use your phone whilst charging very often.
2. QC3 definitely doesn't work. Tried it on the 2.0.093 ST ZUI that came from Banggood and tried it on the Resurrection Remix ROM that I'm currently using (all MM based, haven't tried it on a Nougat based ROM). Theoretically the hardware should be able to do it, but it might be disabled in the kernel. Not sure why they still advertise as QC3 compliant, perhaps they intend on adding the feature with software updates but I wouldn't hold my breath.
3. The phone gets a bit warm during heavy usage and it might be due to the glass back which won't aid cooling as much as a metal one does, but it's never been uncomfortable to hold.
4. The colours problem might be due to ZUI. I found the color choices... uninspired and somewhat bland. I'm on RR now and I've set it to my preference and I really like it. Admittedly it's no Samsung SuperAMOLED, but the screen is not bad at all. Crisp and pleasant. I also think that material design looks really good on it in a way that it never did on my Nexus 5 (can't really explain it).
All in all, I'm really happy with the phone. Its only real competition is the mi5 and mi5s which besides being significantly more expensive, have that hideous black border that hides the side bezels. It's disingenuous and really spoils the look of the white version and it really put me off. I don't want a black phone. Though NFC would have been nice. *sigh*
I think most of the questions have been answered, but I'd like to also add that QC2/3 is not supported, but it does have fast charging of some kind. I did some research and testing, posted results here: http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/info-z2-quick-charge-speed-testing-discussion.3132/
Have a question before purchasing
Does the 3GB variant perform well enough just like the 4GB one does? Any lags or other issues in 3GB variant?
AlstonGomez said:
Does the 3GB variant perform well enough just like the 4GB one does? Any lags or other issues in 3GB variant?
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I assume that you're in India since the 3GB variant seems to be an option (I can't find anywhere that ships it worldwide). If you're not that bothered about warranty and such, you should buy it from a chinese reseller, you can snag the 4GB variant significantly cheaper than the 3GB variant in India (14,999 INR vs ~11,200 INR), check out the info here. That's where I got mine from, but I'm in the UK and there's no official channels here.
You can even put the official Indian ROM on it and you'll get OTA updates and have a phone that's in every way identical to what amazon is selling.
That being said, I don't think that I've ever seen the available RAM drop under 1GB in the entire time I've had the phone so I don't think that the extra 1GB RAM would make any difference in your day to day. The extra 32GB of storage is nice to have, but my previous phone was a Nexus 5 with 16GB storage and I never had any significant issues with that.
All in all, I doubt that you'll notice any significant difference between the 3GB and the 4GB variant and the extra storage will only come in handy if you're downloading entire movies on your phone or have tons of giant games.
PS: The 4GB variant is selling on ebay.in for ~17-20,000 INR, one enterprising fella could buy the 4GB from China for ~11,200 INR, flash the official Indian ROM and sell it on ebay for 16,000 INR undercutting everyone else and making a healthy +4,000 INR profit per phone. If only I was living in India.
Uivalf39 said:
I assume that you're in India since the 3GB variant seems to be an option (I can't find anywhere that ships it worldwide). If you're not that bothered about warranty and such, you should buy it from a chinese reseller, you can snag the 4GB variant significantly cheaper than the 3GB variant in India (14,999 INR vs ~11,200 INR), check out the info here. That's where I got mine from, but I'm in the UK and there's no official channels here.
You can even put the official Indian ROM on it and you'll get OTA updates and have a phone that's in every way identical to what amazon is selling.
That being said, I don't think that I've ever seen the available RAM drop under 1GB in the entire time I've had the phone so I don't think that the extra 1GB RAM would make any difference in your day to day. The extra 32GB of storage is nice to have, but my previous phone was a Nexus 5 with 16GB storage and I never had any significant issues with that.
All in all, I doubt that you'll notice any significant difference between the 3GB and the 4GB variant and the extra storage will only come in handy if you're downloading entire movies on your phone or have tons of giant games.
PS: The 4GB variant is selling on ebay.in for ~17-20,000 INR, one enterprising fella could buy the 4GB from China for ~11,200 INR, flash the official Indian ROM and sell it on ebay for 16,000 INR undercutting everyone else and making a healthy +4,000 INR profit per phone. If only I was living in India.
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Thanks for this reply mate! Did really helped me a lot
I just got one for 175 euros and I think its a steal. I just want a smaller phone. I hope to receive it as soon as possible.