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[Q] What LTE frequency bands does Softbank support?

Softbank does not say on their website. I know they support 2100mhz but the HTC One does not. I have seen many rumours but nothing concrete. Planning to buy from Expansys who have the fun clause of not taking a device back if it does not work due to incompatible LTE band.

puckman said:
Softbank does not say on their website. I know they support 2100mhz but the HTC One does not. I have seen many rumours but nothing concrete. Planning to buy from Expansys who have the fun clause of not taking a device back if it does not work due to incompatible LTE band.
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Wireless Technology - M7_UL
4G-LTE
Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17
4G
HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
UMTS/HSPA+
850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900MHz

Checking Wikipedia here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
Tells me that would be 1900, 1700, 850 and 700? That means I can't buy the HTC One Asia edition as it only supports 4G/LTE: 1800/2600 MHz
Darn, that sucks as the HTC One from Hong Kong and Japan is MUCH cheaper than the UK version. Do you have a source for that info?
Also thanks, you saved me wasting close to 400 quid. Guess I am stuck with my second choice, the Nexus 5 which supports LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
One thing that does confuse me. The link above also has a region part where it has a big fat yes for 2600 but does not go into detail which parts of Asia. Have to say that the whole LTE thing is complicated.
clsA said:
Wireless Technology - M7_UL
4G-LTE
Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17
4G
HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
UMTS/HSPA+
850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900MHz
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puckman said:
Checking Wikipedia here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
Tells me that would be 1900, 1700, 850 and 700? That means I can't buy the HTC One Asia edition as it only supports 4G/LTE: 1800/2600 MHz
Darn, that sucks as the HTC One from Hong Kong and Japan is MUCH cheaper than the UK version. Do you have a source for that info?
Also thanks, you saved me wasting close to 400 quid. Guess I am stuck with my second choice, the Nexus 5 which supports LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
One thing that does confuse me. The link above also has a region part where it has a big fat yes for 2600 but does not go into detail which parts of Asia. Have to say that the whole LTE thing is complicated.
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The info come from the AT&T page
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-32gb-glacial-silver.html#fbid=Owyl9EzE03C

clsA said:
The info come from the AT&T page
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-32gb-glacial-silver.html#fbid=Owyl9EzE03C
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Ah, thats the LTE bands for the American HTC One. The info I am after is what LTE bands does the Japanese Softbank carrier support.

[Q] Xperia Z3+ Dual - US - T-Mobile Compatibility

All -
I have been eagerly awaiting the release of this phone in the US and was surprised that Expansys USA listed it on their site on Monday 23rd June as a DUAL SIMM model.
I called them to verify that they did in fact have the phone in stock. In that conversation I realized the one they have seems to be the European Model and does not support T-Mobile LTE in the US. To clarify the maximum speed you can get on the E6533 is 3G on T-Mobile's network.
This brings me to my question and please indulge me if it has already been answered elsewhere: Will there be a US version of the (Xperia Z3+ -E6533)that is slated to be released and if so does anyone know if if it will fully support US T-Mobile 4G LTE.?
Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Much.

What gave you the impression that the E6533 won't get more than 3G on T-Mobile? According to GSM Arena, that specific model has B4(1700/2100) and B12(700), which is what T-Mobile primarily uses for LTE. If the information is correct, you should have no problem connecting to T-Mobile's network.
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E6533 (Dual) is the one you want!
From white papers,
E6533 -> supports tmobile LTE & 3G
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
E6553 -> supports tmobile LTE, but does not support their 1700MHz 3G band !
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I) MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 40)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_dual_E6533_WP_2.pdf
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_E6553_WP_2.pdf

schecter7 said:
E6533 (Dual) is the one you want!
From white papers,
E6533 -> supports tmobile LTE & 3G
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
E6553 -> supports tmobile LTE, but does not support their 1700MHz 3G band !
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I) MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 40)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_dual_E6533_WP_2.pdf
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_E6553_WP_2.pdf
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T-Mobile is phasing out their 1700Mhz 3G band soon so it won't really matter.

I should be receiving my Z3+ by Wednesday. I'll let you guys know how T-Mobile performs on it. I ordered the single sim, E6553 version.
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Please do! Also check the 3G compatibilty beside LTE. Since Culex316 said 1700 MHz 3G being phased out, it should be fine. Like OP, I was also initially planning to get the E6533 (Dual) as I have a tmobile sim too (micro). I ended up getting the E6553 to use on my ATT line as the white paper says dual sim version LTE DL is limited to 150 Mbps (vs 300 Mbps on the E6553) & the dual sim also doesn't support quick charge 2.0 just yet.

schecter7 said:
Please do! Also check the 3G compatibilty beside LTE. Since Culex316 said 1700 MHz 3G being phased out, it should be fine. Like OP, I was also initially planning to get the E6533 (Dual) as I have a tmobile sim too (micro). I ended up getting the E6553 to use on my ATT line as the white paper says dual sim version LTE DL is limited to 150 Mbps (vs 300 Mbps on the E6553) & the dual sim also doesn't support quick charge 2.0 just yet.
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I should be able to report my findings on Thursday. Have a date with the lady friend on Wednesday so I probably won't do anything with the phone until Thursday. First few charge cycles suck and i don't want to end up with a dead phone in the middle of a date.
But I didn't know that there dual sim version didn't have quick charge yet, that's interesting. I'm not too bothered by LTE speeds honestly, but connectivity is always a concern.
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

Culex316 said:
T-Mobile is phasing out their 1700Mhz 3G band soon so it won't really matter.
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Right and T-Mobile is moving their edge network to LTE band 12.

Lolento said:
Right and T-Mobile is moving their edge network to LTE band 12.
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No, they are refarming the 1900Mhz spectrum from their 2G EDGE network to LTE.
Band 12 is a different frequency altogether (700Mhz A block).

I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-

CollinFX45 said:
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-
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Honestly, I've never been too fused about LTE speeds, as long as I have HSPA+ I'm happy.
But a preliminary report on the E6553 - it connects to T-Mobile just fine for now. I started this phone up a few hours ago and have it set up now. My home is a horrible spot for T-Mobile, but I'll be out and about tomorrow so we'll see the connectivity.
Sent from my E6553 using Tapatalk

Been out and connectivity to T-Mobile's network everywhere has been great!
No issues with voice calls or anything. The E6553 is definitely a great choice for me. I've also been getting great battery life too. I'll report what I've got in the battery thread
Sent from my Xperia Z3+ E6553

Refarming 1900mhz doesnt mean the LTE spectrum will end up at this spectrum. The converted spectrum will be at band 12 700mhz from EVERYTHING I've read.

E6533 - Didnt work with T-Mobile LTE?
Colin -
If I am reading your post correctly, the DUAL SIMM version you got from "NeverMSRP" did not work with 4G LTE on T-Mobile? Ironically that is the same dude I been emialing and he swears it works. Kindly advise.
CollinFX45 said:
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-
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Heating issues?
how about the so reported heating problems, is it a big deal for you guys?

peltruquin said:
how about the so reported heating problems, is it a big deal for you guys?
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Heat = Warm. Warm = Every Powerful phone

CollinFX45 said:
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-
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Also curious. Does LTE work or not? How are you sure band 12 isn't there?
Can anybody else provide input?
Looking into getting z3+ soon

Teo032 said:
Also curious. Does LTE work or not? How are you sure band 12 isn't there?
Can anybody else provide input?
Looking into getting z3+ soon
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Its very simple just search google for "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6553 white paper" for Single sim version and "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6533 White Paper" for dual sim version. Check if LTE band is there in company's product datasheet... don't believe on sellers from ebay ...they copy stuff same for all mobiles...

asking said:
Its very simple just search google for "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6553 white paper" for Single sim version and "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6533 White Paper" for dual sim version. Check if LTE band is there in company's product datasheet... don't believe on sellers from ebay ...they copy stuff same for all mobiles...
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yes it's also very simple to see that it was provided earlier, but this guy's experience seems to be a bad one, and we're trying to confirm his personal experience instead of some sheet nobody has confirmed working on t-mobile yet. So unless you don't have your own personal confirmation why don't you google something else for yourself.

Teo032 said:
yes it's also very simple to see that it was provided earlier, but this guy's experience seems to be a bad one, and we're trying to confirm his personal experience instead of some sheet nobody has confirmed working on t-mobile yet. So unless you don't have your own personal confirmation why don't you google something else for yourself.
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i was trying to help as there are many amazon customer who says it works with T - Mobile in USA.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZOONHYI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Will the A3010 work well in Europe?

I'm about to buy a OnePlus 3T.
I live in Sweden and travel in Europe from time to time.
Will the A3010 work well for me (even with 4G)?
I have already looked at willmyphonework.net/ but it only says:
"Device is compatible with some of the network carriers frequencies. It may work."
What practical advantages would I notice with a A3003(European version) vs the A3010(China version)?

white-k said:
I'm about to buy a OnePlus 3T.
I live in Sweden and travel in Europe from time to time.
Will the A3010 work well for me (even with 4G)?
I have already looked at willmyphonework.net/ but it only says:
"Device is compatible with some of the network carriers frequencies. It may work."
What practical advantages would I notice with a A3003(European version) vs the A3010(China version)?
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The main difference between OnePlus 3T A3003 and A3010 is the A3003 supports LTE band 1/3/5/7/8/20/38/40, which is the international model while A3010 supports LTE band 1/3/5/7/8/38/39/40/41, which is the China model.
basically you wont have support for this bands on 4G

white-k said:
I'm about to buy a OnePlus 3T.
I live in Sweden and travel in Europe from time to time.
Will the A3010 work well for me (even with 4G)?
I have already looked at willmyphonework.net/ but it only says:
"Device is compatible with some of the network carriers frequencies. It may work."
What practical advantages would I notice with a A3003(European version) vs the A3010(China version)?
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The only LTE band that is missing on A3010 is Band20. Most of Sweden network carriers are using Band7 so you are good to go. When you go aboard is a different story. But you are also more flexible because you can chose the roaming network. All you have to do is to chose a supported network carrier.

alvin182 said:
The main difference between OnePlus 3T A3003 and A3010 is the A3003 supports LTE band 1/3/5/7/8/20/38/40, which is the international model while A3010 supports LTE band 1/3/5/7/8/38/39/40/41, which is the China model.
basically you wont have support for this bands on 4G
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I'm confused by this. By those numbers it seems that the China model covers all the numbers as the Europe mode,l plus a few more. If so, then what bands are missing?
Or doesn't it work that way? Please help me understand
Edit: Oh... I missed to see band 20. But what does it mean practically that the China model misses band 20? How will I notice it?

vladimir_carlan said:
The only LTE band that is missing on A3010 is Band20. Most of Sweden network carriers are using Band7 so you are good to go. When you go aboard is a different story. But you are also more flexible because you can chose the roaming network. All you have to do is to chose a supported network carrier.
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Okay. What does it mean practically that the China model misses band 20?
How would I be likely to notice it when using my phone?

white-k said:
Okay. What does it mean practically that the China model misses band 20?
How would I be likely to notice it when using my phone?
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On a network that is using Band20 you'll have only HSDPA connectivity. Basically the phone will work just fine except the fact you won't have LTE connectivity. You'd have only 2G/3G/H+

vladimir_carlan said:
On a network that is using Band20 you'll have only HSDPA connectivity. Basically the phone will work just fine except the fact you won't have LTE connectivity. You'd have only 2G/3G/H+
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Thank you. It's getting somewhat clearer. Okay, but how likely am I to run in to Band20? Is that band (the only one missing from China model) more likely to be used than any of all of the other bands that are listed?

white-k said:
Thank you. It's getting somewhat clearer. Okay, but how likely am I to run in to Band20? Is that band (the only one missing from China model) more likely to be used than any of all of the other bands that are listed?
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I'll give you the UK example. In UK there's 3 LTE bands in use: 3,7 and 20. Other put 2600Mhz, 1800Mhz and 800Mhz (that's Band20 btw...). Only O2 is using only Band 20. All other providers are using at least one extra LTE band. EE is using all three LTE bands, Vodafone is using band 3 and band 20 and Three is using band 7 and band 20.
Now here is the thing... Those network checkers are telling that your device might work. But is not always the case. Here is the Vodafone UK example. As I said they are using Band 3 and Band 20. Now let's take a phone with Band3 but not Band 20 (for example my former Xiaomi Mi5). Will work on LTE but only in urban areas. Why? Because in rural areas the band used are band 7 and 20. Why? Lower frequencies are better at travelling long distances so are more suitable for rural areas where there are fewer masts. Also Band 20 provide better indoor coverage. But if you live in an urban area Band 3 and 7 are more likely to be used. The higher the frequency means higher capacity and therefore the ability to deal with more users which is a must in an urban area.
All in all the best way is to call your provider and ask what frequency they are using in YOUR area. If they are using 1800Mhz or 2600Mhz you are good to go. If not...I'm sorry.
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Just for my curiosity why are interested on a China version and not on a Europe one?

Here is the list of LTE bands used by Sweden network carriers. Take a look at it and you'll see if China version is good to go on your provider.

If you're primarily going to use it in Sweden, I would go with the A3003 (that's what I did, but then I seldom leave Jämtland ?).

vladimir_carlan said:
I'll give you the UK example. In UK there's 3 LTE bands in use: 3,7 and 20. Other put 2600Mhz, 1800Mhz and 800Mhz (that's Band20 btw...). Only O2 is using only Band 20. All other providers are using at least one extra LTE band. EE is using all three LTE bands, Vodafone is using band 3 and band 20 and Three is using band 7 and band 20.
Now here is the thing... Those network checkers are telling that your device might work. But is not always the case. Here is the Vodafone UK example. As I said they are using Band 3 and Band 20. Now let's take a phone with Band3 but not Band 20 (for example my former Xiaomi Mi5). Will work on LTE but only in urban areas. Why? Because in rural areas the band used are band 7 and 20. Why? Lower frequencies are better at travelling long distances so are more suitable for rural areas where there are fewer masts. Also Band 20 provide better indoor coverage. But if you live in an urban area Band 3 and 7 are more likely to be used. The higher the frequency means higher capacity and therefore the ability to deal with more users which is a must in an urban area.
All in all the best way is to call your provider and ask what frequency they are using in YOUR area. If they are using 1800Mhz or 2600Mhz you are good to go. If not...I'm sorry.
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Just for my curiosity why are interested on a China version and not on a Europe one?
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Wow. Now that was a good response! You really seem to know your stuff! Cool. :good:
Okay. Now I understand things a lot better too.
I use Telenor (and spend quite some time in Jämtland (rural) like another poster here:good.
Well I plan to buy my phone on ebay and the annoying thing is that the A3003 is about $100 more expensive than the A3010. I still think it is hard to decide if it will be worth an extra $100 for the Europe version...

You should not only consider LTE Bands, but also consider LTE CA.
Hong Kong/ Europe Model (A3003)
FDD-LTE/ 4G: Bands 1/3/5/7/8/20
TDD-LTE/ 4G: Bands 38/40
LTE CA / 4G+:
B3+B7, B3+B8, B3+B20, B7+B20, B3+B3, B3C, B7+B7, B7C, B40C
China Model (A3010)
FDD-LTE/ 4G : Bands 1/3/5/7/8
TDD-LTE/ 4G: Bands 38/39/40/41
LTE CA/ 4G+:
B1+B3, B39+B41, B39C, B40C, B41+B41, B41C，B38C
American Model (A3000)
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/8/12/17/30
LTE CA/ 4G+:
B2+B12, B2+B17, B4+B7, B4+B17, B12+B30,B2+B2, B2C, B4+B4, B4+B12, B4+B5, B2+B5

Ok. I ended up buying the EU-version as I found one that was just $40 more expensive.
Many thanks for making this more understandable guys! *thumbs up*

India 3T - 4G/LTE not working in US

Hi,
I bought an one plus 3T in india and brought it to US. I'm getting only E not even 3G. When I enquired in T mobile/lyca store, i was told that india unlocked mobile won't support the US bands. Network upgraded. It was big surprise to me. Please suggest me how to unblock additional LTE bands in my 3T mobile.

That's not possible, you should trade your 3t A3003 for a 3t A3000 American band-unlocked model.
Check the specifications for each model under connectivity.
https://oneplus.net/us/3t/specs

Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.

thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk

thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.

smokin901 said:
India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
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bonham1988 said:
Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.

thes3usa said:
Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.
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Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).

redpoint73 said:
Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).
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Talk about synchronicity eh? But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity? In the blind about these stuff, coming from a country that has only one carrier out of five who is still beta testing VoLTE.

thes3usa said:
But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity?
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Not an expert, and had to Google that. From what I'm reading, lower frequency (MHz) has better penetration (through buildings, etc.) while higher frequency bands have higher data capacity.

There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol

pk-air said:
Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.

pk-air said:
There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.

thes3usa said:
There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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No you can't switch but you can unlock some bands which might help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/guide-unlock-additional-lte-bands-t3519563
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pitrus- said:
There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.
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as I said I dont see any reason for it to work

thes3usa said:
There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.

redpoint73 said:
At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.
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Why aren't all bands just enabled by default then? I don't understand why there are different models for different regions.
I have a US OP3T and I'm visiting India. It''s working with Jio in India (although it supports only only of the 3 bands used by Jio) but VoLTE doesn't work for some reason.

Global Version 128Gb - B20 or not??

Anybody with Global Version 128/8Gb can confirm band 20 (800Mhz)
One of colegue on forum have 128Gb from Asus UK and seems like without band 20.
So confused.
Thanks for help.
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Only elite and ultimate version have B20. Strix, tencent and global 128GB not.

I'm sat next to my mate, he is on Samsung S9 - band 20 4g Vodafone UK, my direct from asus 128gb uk phone isnt. Even though I'm pretty sure the website says it has b20
Annoying as bought UK vesrion for full coverage and it doesn't do it! EE signal isn't good where I work, guess I'll have to try O2 and see what 4g band they have near by

Here's what ASUS' customer service said:
The ROG Phone II Strix edition does unfortunately not support LTE Band 20. Only the Ultimate and Elite edition does support FDD-LTE band 20, you can check this here: https://www.asus.com/Phone/ROG-Phone-II/Tech-Specs/ under Network Standard.
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So unfortunately no B20 for the 128GB version

From asus, but this info is different to their site, it's split into models! But cheeky:!
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ROG-Phone-II/Tech-Specs/
Why sell a phone in the UK that doesn't work!? I should have just bought the cheaper tencent version. Dont like this phone any more, grrrrrr.

Here we go again, asus selling faulty products. What a joke.
I wonder what Kind of bull**** they will create for rog phone 3.

It's my one and only Asus!
Thought I'd take a punt, regret it now

I've put an official complaint in, as the UK site implies it has band 20.
Doubt anything will come of it though.....

Can You share link to Asus website where is this info. I will sent complain as well.
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https://www.asus.com/uk/Phone/ROG-Phone-II/Tech-Specs/
Network standards under the tech spec page

Well ASUS are and absolute joke. Their website has changed, so they know the info was wrong. Link I posted above no longer works.
They said I should have checked the sellers site for the info, not their site, as it's only general information. WTF, you make the phone ASUS, if anyone should have the right info, it's you!
Secondly, I did buy it from Asus site, just a third party fullfiled the order. And they have said they didn't have that information anyway.
So no-one has the correct information apparently!
Who I bought it from said it's too late to send back and if I do, I'll have to pay a restocking fee, no idea what that is, but I asked them anyway.
Just a joke, I bought this on false information that has been taken away now and Asus have said nothing helpful, just they are sorry for any inconvenience.....
I'm so furious.

Can't believe. That can say some seller from Aliexpress. Sorry I'm put wrong info on offer.
But how official ASUS website can be wrong. IT'S JOKE.
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According to ASUS, AliExpress would be more accurate!
Yup, complete joke.
Shame I'll have to keep the phone for a few years now to warranty the cost.....actually, the phone is great, the connectivity is terrible.
Such a shame....

Wait wait wait hol' up. If my carrier supports LTE (4G): 800/1800/2600MHz does that mean I won't be able to use 4G LTE or what???? I was just about ready to buy the global version of this phone.
The phone supposedly supports 1800Mhz (apparently that's gotta be a B3 band) . My question - do certain bands provide more or less coverage or is it all the same? I'm not sure whether I need to have both 800Mhz and 1800Mhz or just one of those bands and I don't want to lose 4G all the time because 800Mhz is more covered than 1800Mhz.
The bands the ROG Phone 2 supports:
GSM: B2, B3, B5, B8
WCDMA: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B8
FDD-LTE: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B28
TDD-LTE: B34, B38, B39, B40, B41
Clarification would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

You'll have to check what bands all the providers use and perhaps a map of where towers are and the band they have there.
Most UK networks are band 20, which is why I'm on 3G 99% of the time