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Defender or Commuter?

hey all, i was set on ordering the commuter but started reading into the defenders but ive heard the screen protector can be a pain and that would annoy me
what are your thoughts on both

Hated the defenders inbuilt screen protector, scratched real easy and got stuff caught under it. The commuter has pretty good protection and comes with a free stick on screen protector?
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I toyed with both, both screen protectors are pretty bad. I forgot the brand, but there is a real good one people seem to use and get off amazon.
That being said, the cases themselves are both good. All depends on how protective you want to be over the phone.

I think the commuter unless you really need the protection the defender offers.

i currently have a spigen oleophobic screen protector on it so not too fussed about the one with the commuter, will keep it as a spare for emergencies, i have read that its a bit loose around the volume buttons as it doesnt have the outer shell to keep it in place (commuter)

It's a tiny bit loose around that volume area. I have a commuter and don't regret it at all, hurry up and order it so it gets to you quicker.
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I was on the same boat with you. Usually I go for the top spec case but this time I ordered the commuter. I did this for 3 main reasons. The defender looks like great protection but it makes the phone much bigger especially thickness wise. Also it hides almost everything except for the screen so all the beauty of the phone disappears behind plastic. And last and more important the screen protector looks terrible and with all these wholes it lets everything under it and in touch with the screen. You can always remove it and replace it with another protector but then there maybe parts of the upper shell touching the screen which I dont like.

I have the defender... im not using it right now but bought it for when I am back out on site in the dust/rain/dirty hands and big risk of dropping it or someone else knocking it onto the floor. I had it on the phone for a while but its too big for daily use if you dont need the protection.
The inbuilt screen protector is easily removed and to me makes it a whole let better.

Tomo1971 said:
I have the defender... im not using it right now but bought it for when I am back out on site in the dust/rain/dirty hands and big risk of dropping it or someone else knocking it onto the floor. I had it on the phone for a while but its too big for daily use if you dont need the protection.
The inbuilt screen protector is easily removed and to me makes it a whole let better.
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Once you remove the screen protector how is the inside of the upper shell? Is it smooth or can it scratch the phone?

ive ordered it, cant for it to arrive, i went for the commuter

Just got my Defender in tonight. I like it so far. I bought it after seeing my aunt's. Not a huge fan of the built in screen protector. Might pop that off later.

the only bit i dont like about the commuter is where it hasnt got the outer case, i think the outer case cover it all like the defender does but ill see when i get it, if you take the protector out does bits of dust/crap get inside the case? just something i was reading

Both... I have both... normally use the Commuter cause it is slimmer, but like the Defender alot too cause it has morr grip.
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While I love the protection the Defender provides, after using it for about 3 hours it's a tad too bulky. The Commuter might have been a better choice, but it wasn't Prime Eligible.

gaticaag said:
While I love the protection the Defender provides, after using it for about 3 hours it's a tad too bulky. The Commuter might have been a better choice, but it wasn't Prime Eligible.
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Newegg has the white one for less than amazon. And with shoprunner trial you can get two day shipping free.
Black: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875983425
Glacier: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875983426

Wow what a deal on the Glacier, which they made Knight color for the Commuter :crying:

both have its pros and cons. tested both and opted for the commuter due to its slimmer profile. just a heads up that there are numerous reports about the silicon sagging along the volume and power buttons on the commuter.
check out this comparison vid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsPFLcpOFUs

IamPro said:
Wow what a deal on the Glacier, which they made Knight color for the Commuter :crying:
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$32 a great deal? :-\ I'll wait a bit longer and wait for the price to drop to the levels of the Commuter for the GS3. In the meantime I think the Ballistic case is a much better deal and case for 22 dollars.
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Once you remove the screen protector how is the inside of the upper shell? Is it smooth or can it scratch the phone?
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It sits slightly away from the screen... So doesn't touch it. No visible damage on my screen from it and ive had it on for a couple of weeks.
Sent from my Samsung Note II.

Thanks for the info. I din't know Otterbox had these for the Note 2. I used to have the iPhone 4S Defender case. It offered a good drip, nice protection, but the external soft material started to bend and lose its original shape after a couple of months using it. Does this have the same problem?

Enough with thin glass protectors

I am one of those who has removed the useless plastic screen protector, to apply one of those thin glass protectors. Three times... All of them somehow splinter on the long edge. After all 0,2mm may seem thin, but they are enough to create a small step, and if the phone hits a ring, a key or anything sharp, the glass breaks.
My question is: what happens if I use the phone with no protection? Actually all the phones I have had in the past never had an additional protection on the screen.

thegios said:
I am one of those who has removed the useless plastic screen protector, to apply one of those thin glass protectors. Three times... All of them somehow splinter on the long edge. After all 0,2mm may seem thin, but they are enough to create a small step, and if the phone hits a ring, a key or anything sharp, the glass breaks.
My question is: what happens if I use the phone with no protection? Actually all the phones I have had in the past never had an additional protection on the screen.
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I had the same experience, tried one of the glass protectors and it chipped within the first weak. Ordered a 3 pack of plastic protectors for half the price and so far so good.

I ordered a Nillkin Amazin H screen protector and it's been awesome since day one! It's silky smooth and ridiculously durable (I tried scratching it with a steak knife and it did nothing!) but the only drawback is the coating on it as it gets kinda filmy every now and again but a quick buff with a dry washcloth or similar and it's great! I would totally recommend the Nillkin to any Z1 owner!! :laugh:

GR00VY GH0ULIE said:
I ordered a Nillkin Amazin H screen protector and it's been awesome since day one! It's silky smooth and ridiculously durable (I tried scratching it with a steak knife and it did nothing!) but the only drawback is the coating on it as it gets kinda filmy every now and again but a quick buff with a dry washcloth or similar and it's great! I would totally recommend the Nillkin to any Z1 owner!! :laugh:
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same here, been using NILKIN and no problem/s encountered

Nillkin, all the way! Same here, have been using a Nillkin and no problems so far, no chipping, no scratches, it just works nicely.
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Any particular place you guys get them from? Took my flip cover off to replace the sim, and man did I miss the thinness! I got a flip to avoid a screen protector but if you guys say nillkin is good, I'll give it a crack just to get the beauty back.
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ckai said:
Any particular place you guys get them from? Took my flip cover off to replace the sim, and man did I miss the thinness! I got a flip to avoid a screen protector but if you guys say nillkin is good, I'll give it a crack just to get the beauty back.
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Nilk...-Glass-Screen-protective-film/1405825486.html
I've ordered a few different cases and the Nillkin Amazing H from this site. Prices are awesome and delivery can take a few weeks though!

Silly question, but I have to ask

I want to protect the screen from cracking on an accidental fall and I've had numerous recommendations all different from one another. I've done some research but again I've found conflicting results.
I've heard/read that a hard case is the best bet to protect the screen from breaking on a fall (seems logical), but also (logically) it will increase the thickness and width of the phone. I want to avoid that as best I can as the phone is huge already for me.
I've heard/read that a tempered glass screen protector will offer some form of protection against cracks and breaks of the glass if the phone does fall. Of course not as much as a solid hard case, but better than no cover. I've been told by one person that it will give the phone screen about 50% more strength, someone told me that it will double the strength of the screen, another told me it will do nothing.
I also read stories of having your phone 'treated' (I dont know what that means and I cant find any more info about this) whereby the glass has its strength increased to avoid breaks and cracks.
What is my best option to keep the phone slim and give the glass some kind of protection, without the use of a case? Does anyone have any kind of advice to offer?

A tempered glass protector will help some. Its hard to say how much though. It cant be quantified because screen breaks arent always from direct contact between screen and surface. Best protection would be protector AND case.
I'm getting a ringke slim case in crystal. Its pretty much the thinnest hard case. Maybe it will be slim enough for you.

rootSU said:
A tempered glass protector will help some. Its hard to say how much though. It cant be quantified because screen breaks arent always from direct contact between screen and surface. Best protection would be protector AND case.
I'm getting a ringke slim case in crystal. Its pretty much the thinnest hard case. Maybe it will be slim enough for you.
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Thanks for the reply; I'll look into the case you mentioned, thank you!
Yes, I thought the tempered glass protector would help but assumed it wouldn't help much/be measurable due to the different ways a phone could break.

Buy a tempered glass screen protector, i bough the one from Yootech on amazon.

Like what others have said, a tempered glass protector is what you're looking for. They're much better than plastic screen protectors.
Tempered offers better protection, feels better in the hand. The only con is that it may not cover all the edges as tempered glass is flat whereas plastic screen protectors can be curved.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/accessories/tempered-glass-screen-protectors-t2922645 is a thread where you can read up on whats available.
Some of the big names are: Jelly Comb, Ghostek, and some others.
I'm not sure how protective a "skin" is but it could be somewhat handy, the big names would be dbrand and slickwraps.

zephiK said:
I'm not sure how protective a "skin" is but it could be somewhat handy, the big names would be dbrand and slickwraps.
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I think the dbrand seem a bit thicker. It saved my nexus 5 from a few scratches on a pavement drop. The slick will too, but perhaps not as much. Anything more than a scratch though, it's not rally going to do anything.

rootSU said:
I think the dbrand seem a bit thicker. It saved my nexus 5 from a few scratches on a pavement drop. The slick will too, but perhaps not as much. Anything more than a scratch though, it's not rally going to do anything.
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My first dbrand was for the nexus 4. The nexus 4 had a glass back and I was annoyed during winter time, the back of the phone was super cold because of the glass.
I purchased a skin for the n6 for the back to prevent fingerprints. I think a awesome setup would be. Tempered glass, dbrand, slickwraps side skins.
Wish dbrand offered skins for the sides. But yeah dbrand should protect minor accidents like scratches
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zephiK said:
My first dbrand was for the nexus 4. The nexus 4 had a glass back and I was annoyed during winter time, the back of the phone was super cold because of the glass.
I purchased a skin for the n6 for the back to prevent fingerprints. I think a awesome setup would be. Tempered glass, dbrand, slickwraps side skins.
Wish dbrand offered skins for the sides. But yeah dbrand should protect minor accidents like scratches
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I haven't got a glass yet and im holding off as I like the feel of the 6 naked. I've ordered a Ringke slim in Crystal which should arrive today or tomorrow... and a carbon fibre back and sides from slickwraps. Not sure if I will like the case but it was cheap so its no loss...

I use a Unicorn Beetle case on my phone. A little bit big but you'll get used to it soon. I've dropped it about 4 times and it should have cracked about 3 times. But not a crack

Well the Slim case arrived. Actually the videos and photos dont actually do justice to how slim it is. Its really slim. BUT, it does creak a little and it scratches even using a lint cloth, which of course you need to use because if you get anything stuck between the phone and the case, you can see it a mile off.

rootSU said:
Well the Slim case arrived. Actually the videos and photos dont actually do justice to how slim it is. Its really slim. BUT, it does creak a little and it scratches even using a lint cloth, which of course you need to use because if you get anything stuck between the phone and the case, you can see it a mile off.
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Yep same here when I got mines. The top left creaked a bit. It's a pain in order to remove the case. I personally don't really like their slim case, the Galaxy Nexus slim case was perfect though. I go for the Ringke fusion.
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zephiK said:
Yep same here when I got mines. The top left creaked a bit. It's a pain in order to remove the case. I personally don't really like their slim case, the Galaxy Nexus slim case was perfect though. I go for the Ringke fusion.
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I dont like any cases at all. I'm a naturist when it comes to phones, but it was £6 from Amazon so I thought "why not". It is hard to remove, but I was prepared for that after watching the video reviews in the accessories forum.
I can't say I'll keep it on, but I'll see how long I can last

rootSU said:
I dont like any cases at all. I'm a naturist when it comes to phones, but it was £6 from Amazon so I thought "why not". It is hard to remove, but I was prepared for that after watching the video reviews in the accessories forum.
I can't say I'll keep it on, but I'll see how long I can last
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I felt like I was going to break the phone with how tough it was. I eventually got it off but made my thumb get injured slightly. Not fun. I do love the fusion though. So beautiful
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zephiK said:
I felt like I was going to break the phone with how tough it was. I eventually got it off but made my thumb get injured slightly. Not fun. I do love the fusion though. So beautiful
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Yeah very nice. I'd prefer clear all round to show off skin sides. ..and a bit big for me.
Ive never been one for cases but I did runrun an urban armor gear on my s3 for a few weeks. Was massive and looked like a portable toilet haha

Thank you to all for your clarification and suggestions in this thread; I hope that others with similar questions will find this a good source as I have for a quick, simple set of answers.
At this stage I'll likely end up with a temp glass cover for one phone and a flip case for the other (partner's phone, as they've recently decided they want).

rootSU said:
Yeah very nice. I'd prefer clear all round to show off skin sides. ..and a bit big for me.
Ive never been one for cases but I did runrun an urban armor gear on my s3 for a few weeks. Was massive and looked like a portable toilet haha
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I would have done that too, I have a Crystal but the carbon fiber looked weird with the blue sides so I had a smoke black to hide the trim piece.

Are there any cases that will protect the screen from drops?

I just picked up a regular S7 and I'm finding the screen a little small (coming from a G3).
I'd like to try the Edge but I'm very worried about breaking the screen. I drop my phone a lot (I run heavy equipment in rough environments). I have an OB Defender on my S7 now.
Are there any case options for the S7E that will really hold up to frequent abuse?
I only have a day to exchange phones so I'd really appreciate any insight.
Thanks,
TF

TF3N said:
I just picked up a regular S7 and I'm finding the screen a little small (coming from a G3).
I'd like to try the Edge but I'm very worried about breaking the screen. I drop my phone a lot (I run heavy equipment in rough environments). I have an OB Defender on my S7 now.
Are there any case options for the S7E that will really hold up to frequent abuse?
I only have a day to exchange phones so I'd really appreciate any insight.
Thanks,
TF
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If you dont mind the bulky-eness the UAG is the way to go! Great protection and add a glass protection, since you are on rough environment.
Beware that no case will protect you if you drop it from a decent height , face down on a rock for example.
Here i have my top 5 cases for the S7
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/17/top-5-cases-for-the-samsung-s7-edge/

Sure. There are some ridiculous contraptions out there that wrap the phone all way round with glass, metal, plastic and whatever else they could find. Probably keeps it 'safe' if you don't mind it looking like the original Motorola brick phone .

drummerman said:
Sure. There are some ridiculous contraptions out there that wrap the phone all way round with glass, metal, plastic and whatever else they could find. Probably keeps it 'safe' if you don't mind it looking like the original Motorola brick phone .
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Aesthetics is the absolute last thing I'm worried about...
I just require a large screen phone with the best specs and longest battery life possible.
I don't require it to be pretty.

blitzkrieg19 said:
If you dont mind the bulky-eness the UAG is the way to go! Great protection and add a glass protection, since you are on rough environment.
Beware that no case will protect you if you drop it from a decent height , face down
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From what I've read there's not a single glass screen protector made for the S7E that actually works properly. Does your experience suggest otherwise?

TF3N said:
From what I've read there's not a single glass screen protector made for the S7E that actually works properly. Does your experience suggest otherwise?
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In my experience, nothing is 100% drop proof..
I had my iPhone 6s which i use as a second work phone, drop from 20 cm @ the swimming pool shattered at 2 corners wearing a glass shield. Had it fallen many many times from ear height, and nothing happened..
**** happens.
Yeah on the Edge phones, solutions on glass protections are limited. I ve tried a no-name glass, which left the sides uncovered, and where the glass curves left a small but noticable gap. Threw it @ 1 day .
I ll be ordering a Skinomi shield skin which in my past experience with the Note Edge worked really really well and curved nice without being noticed. Now i ran an IQ shield which i ll be replacing cause the case lifts the edges after 1 week of use.

Otterbox and I hate otterbox. I have dropped this phone s7 edge 4 times and every time it's been perfect.
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Otterbox Defender. As frustrating as the screen protector is, you just have to try to get used to it
VZ S7 EDGE ONYX

I'd recommend the Otterbox Commuter Series. I've had it on my S7 edge from day one and its taken a fair few drops from 5ft onto hardwood/concrete/tiles. Phone is perfect, case is a lil roughed up but you gotta look closely to notice it.
The screen is raised above the floor by rubber 'lips'. Headphone and Charging ports are covered by flaps.
The Commuter does not have the bulk of the Otterbox Defender. Commuter offers great protection IMO.

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I'd recommend the Otterbox Commuter Series. I've had it on my S7 edge from day one and its taken a fair few drops from 5ft onto hardwood/concrete/tiles. Phone is perfect, case is a lil roughed up but you gotta look closely to notice it.
The screen is raised above the floor by rubber 'lips'. Headphone and Charging ports are covered by flaps.
The Commuter does not have the bulk of the Otterbox Defender. Commuter offers great protection IMO.
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Thanks.
I ended up getting both the Defender and the Commuter.
I think the Defender will stay on most of the time, unless crap gets in between the screen protector and the phone like the defenders did on my other phones... it does seem to have a tight fit, though.... we'll see.
I liked the Commuter but I couldn't find a screen protector that worked well with it.

Supcase Unicorn Beetle Pro
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Ghost armors screen protectors on my edge working great with the Spigen 2-layer w/ kickstand.. it is wet application though, best get it applied at a cart in the mall

tech21

Otterbox Strada is nice enough to be my daily phone protector - feels tough for the job without extra bulkiness of Defender.
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Riche101UK said:
Supcase Unicorn Beetle Pro
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agree with this one. plus this case holds down the edges of screen protectors and works with wireless charging.

Check the ballistic urbanite cases. Really slim with 6 feet drop certification.I'm really happy with it
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TF3N said:
Thanks.
I ended up getting both the Defender and the Commuter.
I think the Defender will stay on most of the time, unless crap gets in between the screen protector and the phone like the defenders did on my other phones... it does seem to have a tight fit, though.... we'll see.
I liked the Commuter but I couldn't find a screen protector that worked well with it.
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Im using the Best Buy geek squad protector with the commuter without any problems.

TF3N said:
Aesthetics is the absolute last thing I'm worried about...
I just require a large screen phone with the best specs and longest battery life possible.
I don't require it to be pretty.
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If that's the requirement and you don't depend on any of the Samsung specific features, get a Pixel XL with the fattest toughest case you can find. It is the pinnacle of large screen meets best performance meets long battery life.

Buy this case. I took the built in screen protector out and use a Zagg invisible screen HD because it's softer and would absorb more if hit. This case has the most raised edges out of all the cases I've seen. It's duel layered and I've dropped my phone about 20 times and some on concrete and no damage.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BLEWFGK/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_Ga8jyb8TDM8F2

Skin, case or naked?

Just wondering what do you guys use. I've always used a case. But thinking of just using tempered glass with a skin. I know it will be prone to cracking the back. But the skin can cover it right? So I'll just pray the tempered glass saves my screen if I ever drop it. Thoughts?

I use a wet install back film, naked screen, sometimes cases, thin, or heavy type, depending on what I will do or where I will go

I have a Spiegen NeoHybrid, Samsung Alcantera, and Samsung this plastic case that I alternate between. But right now I'm using a DBrand skin on the back of it. I've never been a fan of cases and I'm taking my chances with the skin but it does increase the grip of it compared to the glass back. I don't use a screen protector because I haven't found one that feels quiet the same to write on using the S-Pen compared to a naked display. I feel putting anything on the screen reduces the touch sensitivity as well.

I started with the (official) Samsung Rugged Cover, got tired of the bulk after a couple months and switched to a substantially thinner PEEL case. After about a month realized that the extremely thin PEEL case wasn't offering any better protection than a wrap/skin, I installed a "full body" wrap. That lasted all of about 5 frustrated minutes.
I enrolled in Samsung+ Care and will let them "cover" my beautiful, bare, Note8 should something happen.

I use Samsung's flip case. It gives me protection for the screen and back and it provides a stand for watching videos ... very happy with it!
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winol said:
I use a wet install back film, naked screen, sometimes cases, thin, or heavy type, depending on what I will do or where I will go
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Yep , same here. I use a wet applied clear Skinomi on the back. With a regular case LOL
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I always use a case. A relatively thin case but one that gives some protection. I also use a magnetic car mount so I need a case to hold it in place.
Currently using a vrs design high pro shield... But lumion is the same thing and sells cheaper
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Started off with the OtterBox Defender and skinomi wet install screen protector but got tired of the hard case removal process with the Defender when using the Gear VR headset. So now I'm using the Official Samsung Rugged Protective case with no screen protection. Haven't had a screen protector on in over a month and still have not a single scratch.

Back protection(wet or dry install) is really great, it guards against all type of particles when you use any type of case!

i use this case. got it from amazon

A good quality slim case with a matching wallpaper is how I always rock. Change the colors every few weeks to keep it fresh...

DBRAND GRIP CASE FTW!!!! It's the best case I have ever used. Also lets the dbrand skin show on the back. Grippy as hell, already dropped and protects well.
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kloony11 said:
A good quality slim case with a matching wallpaper is how I always rock. Change the colors every few weeks to keep it fresh...
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I bet that looks good with red edge lighting.
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I use this one. Got so many compliments it made my wife switch from an iPhone to a Note 8.
https://www.incipio.com/cases/smartphone-cases/samsung-smartphone-cases/samsung-galaxy-note-8-cases/carnaby-samsung-galaxy-note-8-case.html

nuclearrage said:
DBRAND GRIP CASE FTW!!!! It's the best case I have ever used. Also lets the dbrand skin show on the back. Grippy as hell, already dropped and protects well.
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Pics?

kloony11 said:
A good quality slim case with a matching wallpaper is how I always rock. Change the colors every few weeks to keep it fresh...
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What brand case is this?
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winol said:
I use a wet install back film, naked screen, sometimes cases, thin, or heavy type, depending on what I will do or where I will go
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Which back film are you using? Do you have a link?

Jammol said:
Which back film are you using? Do you have a link?
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i use skinomi wet install, look for it in amazon, there are three versions, for back, for screen and full body

winol said:
i use skinomi wet install, look for it in amazon, there are three versions, for back, for screen and full body
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I guess amazon us doesn't have it. been search since I posted an asked you and I can't find just the protector for the back. LAME!

Jammol said:
I guess amazon us doesn't have it. been search since I posted an asked you and I can't find just the protector for the back. LAME!
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I bought my Skinomi back clear skin from Amazon. You may have to buy the full kit and just use the back part.
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