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Paint rubbing off on corner

My phone is a couple of weeks old and the paint on one corner has already rubbed (or has been scratched) off leaving the shiny aluminum exposed. Has anyone else got this issue or have any bright ideas to restore the matt black color? I tried a Sharpie but it didn't stick.

mbridges30 said:
My phone is a couple of weeks old and the paint on one corner has already rubbed (or has been scratched) off leaving the shiny aluminum exposed. Has anyone else got this issue or have any bright ideas to restore the matt black color? I tried a Sharpie but it didn't stick.
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Humm, this is worrying. I hope it's a fluke

Got a spot of aluminium as well in the top left corner.
Only 1mm in diameter, but still... not too good after about 10 days of use.

WoW... I hope these are just two isolated cases, or some bad serie...
Believe me, if this happens to mine, it will be the very last time I buy a HTC. You can write my words in stone.
HastaSSSS

Not good news!! I had this same problem with my HTC 3600P... it looked like crap after 6 months... crap black finish rubs off easy.. specially if in a humid country like jamaica.. really really bad news for the diamond! thanks guys.. will keep a close eye on it and try and get a case of it ASAP.
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I have also got paint rubbing off both top corners, it's slowly getting worse. Not happy!!! Few weeks old. Any body know a good paint match? Think I could fix it..

Im sure that having your keys and coins in the same pocket with your phone it will get scratched.

Can't make out the corners of mine through the fingerprints even though every night I wipe my fingers on my jeans after my chips! What about proper Indian ink?

I had to something about it on mine...
Fine/Ultra Fine Black Sharpie Permanent Marker has done the job..

...does NOT sound good, I had this problem with my Trinity and it really looked a mess. I hope HTC read this post and maybe.... even say something about it? or would i be dreaming?

some pictures maybe?

vas79 said:
I had to something about it on mine...
Fine/Ultra Fine Black Sharpie Permanent Marker has done the job..
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Forget the Sharpie people it comes off in 2 days!!...

same has happened to mine, metal finish has worn off on top right corner, have tried permanent marker and also a little tin of humbrol satin black enamel paint which worked the best, but even that rubs off!!! gotta say im dissapointed with the finish of the phone, my touch dual still looks new after 6 months.

Hmm you made me pretty worry
I already ordered my diamond and I'm expecting it within 10 days ... I already ordered Overlay plus for the screen and front buttons and Invisible shield for the back and sides.. I was not planning to apply the invisible shield from day one but after what you guys wrote I think I will...

xda_fan said:
...does NOT sound good, I had this problem with my Trinity and it really looked a mess. I hope HTC read this post and maybe.... even say something about it? or would i be dreaming?
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dream on
No paint rubbing off here after 6 weeks.

No paint rubbing off here either and it's thrown in a pocket with no case and has landed on the floor with no damage.

Zekee said:
some pictures maybe?
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For your entertainment :-(

mbridges30 said:
For your entertainment :-(
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I also see some pretty bad scratches on the display protection. Did you play ball with it?

tnyynt said:
I also see some pretty bad scratches on the display protection. Did you play ball with it?
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My wife put it in her purse with a bunch of keys, but luckily it is only the screen protector. I can't blame her for the paint however, that was all me.
Playing ball with my Diamond wasn't one of the functions on the phone that I was aware of. Does the G sensor help you hit better?

we need a rubber case!!!
Oh no... this happend to me to my old wizard, but the paint lasted for at least 6 months before scratching. I hope my $700 phone has a good paint Job.

Camera window fogging up? Polish it.

I don't often use the camera in my Tilt, that is to say I never use it on purpose. If I need a camera on the spot, I'll use it. It's better than nothing sometimes.
I hadn't used it in a while and this weekend I needed to grab a photo of something and I noticed that the window on the battery cover was very strange looking, almost a fractal pattern of scratches or etches on it. Very light, but making it very foggy. Unfortunately I didn't notice until later, and my shots were horrible. After I noticed the fogginess, I took a few test shots with and without the cover, and without the cover the shots looked as 'good' as they ever do.
So I got out my Novus plastic polish that I use to polish up light scratches out of gadgets (similar to Applesauce and other products) and polished the window for a few minutes and all of the weird foggy layer went away. It took a few times, so it wasn't simply dirty, etc. Now I have a 'ring' of this weird looking fogginess around the edges of the lens but that doesn't affect the camera. So I took a few more test shots and the different between with the battery cover and without are back to negligible.
Just thought I'd mention it for folks who are taking off the battery cover to take photos or thinking about removing the 'lens' in the battery cover. If you have something to polish plastic and your lens looks foggy, give this a try.
I might try to take a picture of it sometime, but not sure I'll be able to really capture it well.

I used brasso brass polish for the same result, works well with a bit of elbow grease. As for the "halo" left around the edges I took a wooden toothpick and covered the end with a bit of paper towel and got rid of the "halo" by polishing in circles against the edge to remove that halo. Now my cover is like new!!!

mk69 said:
I used brasso brass polish for the same result, works well with a bit of elbow grease. As for the "halo" left around the edges I took a wooden toothpick and covered the end with a bit of paper towel and got rid of the "halo" by polishing in circles against the edge to remove that halo. Now my cover is like new!!!
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Was yours similar to how I described? Not just foggy, but kind of a weird pattern on the plastic?

khaytsus said:
Was yours similar to how I described? Not just foggy, but kind of a weird pattern on the plastic?
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yes, it looks like a "rainbow" on the surface almost like if you were to blow a bubble and catch it and look at it you can see a rainbow of colors in the bubble.
After I polished it it was clear, the before and after effects were enough for me to see.
must have been somthing on our fingers that got on the cover or something like that.

mk69 said:
yes, it looks like a "rainbow" on the surface almost like if you were to blow a bubble and catch it and look at it you can see a rainbow of colors in the bubble.
After I polished it it was clear, the before and after effects were enough for me to see.
must have been somthing on our fingers that got on the cover or something like that.
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I'm beginning to think you're right, it was a suspicion of mine to start with as the only thing that could have really made a lot of contact with it is my fingers. And sure enough after a week or so, the window is starting to get funny looking again. I touch it all the time by accident, it's just in a perfect spot to get fingers on it.

khaytsus said:
I'm beginning to think you're right, it was a suspicion of mine to start with as the only thing that could have really made a lot of contact with it is my fingers. And sure enough after a week or so, the window is starting to get funny looking again. I touch it all the time by accident, it's just in a perfect spot to get fingers on it.
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Just in case people aren't aware, the lens cover is not plastic but really thin coated glass. The coating thats been applied to it clearly isn't heavy duty enough for the type of ordinary use the device gets as mine also developed this problem, even though I'm very careful with how I treat it. I too used brasso to polish the coating off and then cleaned it with my Klearscreen and microfibre cloth and all is now well. I thought the blurry photos I was getting were because I wasn't holding the device still enough but it turned out to be Chromatic Aberation (click the link for an excellent Wikipedia description).

thanks for the advice, now my pics won't look like they've been altered by some cheap gaussian blur effects,

Nexus 4 Bezel

My N4 finally came today and everything on it is perfect, no buzzing noise, no reboots, no yellow screen. But there is a very small indentation on the bezel. It's not a scratch but it looks like something from when it was manufactured. I'm just gonna keep it, it adds personality to it

Lol.
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Hmm..got a picture?

Good decision. Unfortunately the bezel is vacuform plated plastic, and by its very nature is prone to blemishes (as are the buttons); my only real pet-peeve about the construction of this phone.

This thread is as useless as my nipples.

I'm having something similar I think. It's on the upper bezel....it's like a 1 inch horizontal line (when holding the phone in portrait) on the upper bezel. It's like it's underneath the glass, and it's like a 1-inch wavy line. Initially I thought it was residue from the factory plastic...but when I wiped, it would not go. It's some sort of molding-related thing to the plastic I'm sure.
It doesn't bother me as I know the manufacturing isn't perfect.
What bothers me is how small the phone is. Lol. I've been using the N7000 for so long I'm actually worried that this phone will slip out of my hands. Lol.
The size difference in screen is astounding....I'm having "some" reservations about keeping it.
It's also unfortunate that project butter is not all it's hyped up to be. I've seen it choke already on 3 occasions within the first 5 minutes. I guess I'll just remind myself that I've only paid $349 for this.

PoisonWolf said:
It's also unfortunate that project butter is not all it's hyped up to be. I've seen it choke already on 3 occasions within the first 5 minutes. I guess I'll just remind myself that I've only paid $349 for this.
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in general UI it makes a noticeable difference however lots of apps still do not default to GPU rendering and tend to stutter; you can force it in the developers options however its not a perfect solution.

I also have something I'm not quite sure about what it is. It seems to be a little piece of rubber/plastic/whatever sticking between bezel and glass. It's between front facing camera and earphone. At first it looks like a scratch and when you look closer it looks like the rubber that comes up if you pry up the iPhone's Display for repair. Are we talking about the same?

phil_ffm said:
I also have something I'm not quite sure about what it is. It seems to be a little piece of rubber/plastic/whatever sticking between bezel and glass. It's between front facing camera and earphone. At first it looks like a scratch and when you look closer it looks like the rubber that comes up if you pry up the iPhone's Display for repair. Are we talking about the same?
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No.
Mine is something underneath the glass, in the middle location of the upper bezel, a wavy line about 1-inch in horizontal fashion when held in portrait mode.
It's below the speaker, to the left of the front facing camera. In the middle region. Some sort of molding-related issue. There is no scratch on the glass, etc. It's like when the bezel was stuck onto the glass, it was not perfect, etc.
It's a minor cosmetic issue though. Doesn't affect the functionality of the phone.

Toaster Strudels said:
This thread is as useless as my nipples.
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LOL I'm so funny. I make myself laugh.

IshTheG said:
My N4 finally came today and everything on it is perfect, no buzzing noise, no reboots, no yellow screen. But there is a very small indentation on the bezel. It's not a scratch but it looks like something from when it was manufactured. I'm just gonna keep it, it adds personality to it
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Mine has same. But since no other probs keeping it.

The bezel above the usb port on mine was lifted from the body enough to see into the phone. I just squeezed it together some. All good~

Toaster Strudels said:
This thread is as useless as my nipples.
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:laugh: Yes!

Same here there's a small mark on the top right corner
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

Toaster Strudels said:
LOL I'm so funny. I make myself laugh.
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I've laughed at 3 of your posts now. Just got a chuckle in a previous thread. Thanks.

Seems like gorilla glass 2 isnt all that scratch resistant, or you have rocks in your pocket or something. I have never caused an unintentional scratch on any of my gorilla glass equipped phones. I will probably be getting a screen protector for this one though, and will use the official bumper whenever it comes into stock. Only like 35 more weeks until I get my phone!

2 Nexus 4's both have minor imperfections on the shinny chrome bezel, which is actually plastic I believe.
1- on the bottom of the left side a minor indentation, not scratch
2- on the bottom of the right side paint bubbling out, as if there was a spec of dust when the coat of paint was applied.
The second is more noticeable especially that it on the top part, while first is on bottom part.
But both magically disappear when the N4 is put in a case.
The manufacturing imperfection that's actually getting on my nerves just because I'm OCD (I truly am, not a self diagnosis ), is the little square glass covering the camera flash, it is ever so slightly rotated that it doesn't perfectly align with the black bezel around it ... it took me a mico second to spot it out of the box, and I cannot unsee it. It cannot be misaligned by more than a 10th of a millimeter, but somehow I can see it at arms length ... I'm just crazy!

funky_snowman said:
Seems like gorilla glass 2 isnt all that scratch resistant, or you have rocks in your pocket or something. I have never caused an unintentional scratch on any of my gorilla glass equipped phones. I will probably be getting a screen protector for this one though, and will use the official bumper whenever it comes into stock. Only like 35 more weeks until I get my phone!
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Any glass isn't particularly scratch resistant. Lint and small particles will scratch any sort of glass, or just about anything with enough force. From personal experience, I've found that Gorilla Glass 2 is more fragile than Gorilla Glass 1 because it's thinner, despite Corning's presentation of it as being able to withstand the same amount of force.

Toaster Strudels said:
This thread is as useless as my nipples.
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LOL! I thought it was made of rubber. But that comment cracks me up

Toaster Strudels said:
This thread is as useless as my nipples.
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This make me lough so hard...hillariously funny

Anyone else have tiny nicks in the aluminium

A tiny gripe for the perfectionists. But I noticed after a day, that I had a couple of tiny little nicks in the aluminium. As the phone had just been lying on my desk and hadn't been taken outside it must have come that way. I didn't see them at first because they are on the edges and not on the back surface. It is very tiny and it was because it caught the light that I noticed it. I remember when the iPhone 5 came out there were scores of people with chips on the black iPhones that showed silver underneath. This is nowhere near as bad as that....just the light catching the fact that the surface is not quite flat. I had the same with an iPhone 4 a few years ago as well. Seems to me that aluminium is very dingable, even in the factory.
Anyone else notice this?

Mines fine so far, no complaints.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

None really had a small black mark but managed to get rid of it quite easily

jonstatt said:
A tiny gripe for the perfectionists. But I noticed after a day, that I had a couple of tiny little nicks in the aluminium. As the phone had just been lying on my desk and hadn't been taken outside it must have come that way. I didn't see them at first because they are on the edges and not on the back surface. It is very tiny and it was because it caught the light that I noticed it. I remember when the iPhone 5 came out there were scores of people with chips on the black iPhones that showed silver underneath. This is nowhere near as bad as that....just the light catching the fact that the surface is not quite flat. I had the same with an iPhone 4 a few years ago as well. Seems to me that aluminium is very dingable, even in the factory.
Anyone else notice this?
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What colour and is it possible that you post some pictures? I would like to follow this as would a lot of potential buyers Thanks, I have run out of thanks for the day
Please keep us posted about this

markj338 said:
What colour and is it possible that you post some pictures? I would like to follow this as would a lot of potential buyers Thanks, I have run out of thanks for the day
Please keep us posted about this
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I tried to take a photo of it, but I am going to need someone at home to help me take the picture as its all about getting the light angled correctly so that its clear in the picture. So I will need someone to hold the phone at the right angle so I can get a picture to show. I will try and see if I can get a picture shortly. It is a silver phone, the only colour available right now.

It's not possible to make it 'perfect' so there will be slight defects.
Mine has a tiny little mark on the top that unless you really look for it in certain light its not possible to really see.

Unless there's a real dent or chip on the casing, it shouldn't be a problem. I know it can annoy perfectionists but man, that is aluminium, it is understandable (to an extent, of course)

yep, my silver came with tiny nicks..could feel them when i ran my fingers down the side.not there now [3 days later], maybe 'ironed' out lol

lezduur said:
yep, my silver came with tiny nicks..could feel them when i ran my fingers down the side.not there now [3 days later], maybe 'ironed' out lol
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Haha...I hope the metal is not SO soft such that it would be possible!
I have wondered if a fingernail is able to nick the edges of the metal. The anodising is only on the back surface. So the bevelled edges will be more suceptible. It is the edge where I noticed a couple of tiny nicks.
I was reading that a fingernal has a hardness of 2.5 (on some scale that I forget the name of). And aluminium is 2.5-3. This would suggest a fingernail striking the edge of the phone could put a nick it. But I am not willing to try intentionally to do so!

jonstatt said:
Haha...I hope the metal is not SO soft such that it would be possible!
I have wondered if a fingernail is able to nick the edges of the metal. The anodising is only on the back surface. So the bevelled edges will be more suceptible. It is the edge where I noticed a couple of tiny nicks.
I was reading that a fingernal has a hardness of 2.5 (on some scale that I forget the name of). And aluminium is 2.5-3. This would suggest a fingernail striking the edge of the phone could put a nick it. But I am not willing to try intentionally to do so!
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Mohs scale! Yeah, they do overlap on the hardness scale, and nails have a history of being able to scratch aluminum (take Macbooks, for instance).

Yeah my wife came in the room yesterday and said when she pressed the power button, her finger nail scratched the silver lightly. looks like someones drawn a line with a lead pencil by the power button now. might try to buff it out but afraid if i wear the area down it will all go a dull grey.

jcb1985 said:
Yeah my wife came in the room yesterday and said when she pressed the power button, her finger nail scratched the silver lightly. looks like someones drawn a line with a lead pencil by the power button now. might try to buff it out but afraid if i wear the area down it will all go a dull grey.
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Note to self: Don't be lazy about cutting your nails once you get this phone.
Good call! :good:

jcb1985 said:
Yeah my wife came in the room yesterday and said when she pressed the power button, her finger nail scratched the
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My wife has damaged three buttons on 2 DAB radios and one remote control by that method.
Not even necessary to use a fingernail to operate the buttons, either.

jcb1985 said:
Yeah my wife came in the room yesterday and said when she pressed the power button, her finger nail scratched the silver lightly. looks like someones drawn a line with a lead pencil by the power button now. might try to buff it out but afraid if i wear the area down it will all go a dull grey.
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Rule number 1: never let your wife come anywhere near your phone :silly:

compact_bijou said:
My wife has damaged three buttons on 2 DAB radios and one remote control by that method.
Not even necessary to use a fingernail to operate the buttons, either.
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Have you ever tried growing your nails out super long? The pads of your fingers begin to cease to exist. :laugh:

This is weird. And yes aluminum does indeed has a weak mohs scale and that's the main reason why they anodize it. Now when anodized the mohs scale increases to 9 so how would a fingernail even scratch that?

i can assure you that it does scratch with false fingernails regardless of any specifications.

Riyal said:
This is weird. And yes aluminum does indeed has a weak mohs scale and that's the main reason why they anodize it. Now when anodized the mohs scale increases to 9 so how would a fingernail even scratch that?
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I dont believe all of the aluminium is anodised though. The back surface certainly is. But there is a bevelled edge which is almost shiny like a mirror, and I think that area is not treated and is also where I found a couple of tiny nicks (seen when angled under a spotlight) out of the box. It is unfortunately also the most likely bit to be hit knocked, swiped with a fingernail etc.

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I dont believe all of the aluminium is anodised though. The back surface certainly is. But there is a bevelled edge which is almost shiny like a mirror, and I think that area is not treated and is also where I found a couple of tiny nicks (seen when angled under a spotlight) out of the box. It is unfortunately also the most likely bit to be hit knocked, swiped with a fingernail etc.
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Could you post a picture of that bevelled edge? I'm not sure what you're saying but HTC One is unibody. And when you anodize aluminum you submerge the whole body into a solution. So it's quite impossible that some parts get's anodized and some aren't.

I guess I have to cut all my nails b4 buying it lmao
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Possible fix for scratched bezel

I saw a few guys complaining about the scratched/bumped bezel which looks ugly because the paint will reveal the metal underneath.
Well, I also damaged my watch by accidentally hitting it . Permanent markers are not a good solution because they do not last.
Apparently the bezel is made out of aluminium and only the watch body is made out of steel, that why, maybe, the bezel is less resistant.
Last evening though, an idea came to my mind, which I also applied on the watch. The result is promising .
Using some fine sandpaper (600) and some real paper after that, I completely removed the paint from the top of the bezel.
As a technique, I laid the sandpaper on a flat surface (table) and then I pressed the watch on it while rubbing it. After the paint was completely removed, I did the same operation but using a regular sheet of paper (to add a nice finish on the metal surface).
Please be careful: you have to press the watch against the sandpaper (laid on a flat, hard surface), not the other way around. In this way you leave no room for mistakes and the revealed metal will be uniform and nice, w/o weird edges.
This is the result.

That actually looks really nice! I'm Impressed with it . Just out of Curiosity what watchface is that also as it suits the watch really well.

That's a custom watch face for WatchMaker (built by me). You can download it from here.

I'm not sure I have the b... sorry guts for this kind of job

First Hardware Mod!
That looks great! I know it's just a matter of time before I will need to do this. I have sanded/polished like this before and may I warn everyone:
Make sure you keep the sandpaper flat. If it rolls up under the face it will scratch the screen.​Better yet, only do this with a screen protector.

Really nice. You should offer your services for a fee, to do this for others afraid to do it themselves. Not that you'd offer any guarantees, but you have proof you know how to do it right .
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Wow that's a great fix for this. Showed the scratches on my bezel to the lg team at ces and they were surprised and would follow up with me after the show. They said they hadn't come across this issue (which I find hard to believe). Like you mentioned OP the bezel is aluminum and the lower parts are steel and seem to be much more durable paint wise.
I'm hoping they might send me a new watch with some better paint but if not I'm definitely going to use this method!

it does look good, however once you do this there is no going back ........
if you want a better finish you may want to try crocus paper after you have removed the paint on the bezel, crocus paper is very fine and may give a smoother finish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocus_cloth

Once you have bumped the outer bezel into an outer object, hard enough to expose the metal under the paint, the is no going back either. But at least, there is a way to move forward .

ro_explorer said:
Once you have bumped the outer bezel into an outer object, hard enough to expose the metal under the pain, the is no going back either. But at least, there is a way to move forward .
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So very true.
I personally think that looks fantastic and a milliion times better than a scratched bezel. Mine hasn't recieved any scratches yet, but seeing your results, I'm no longer panicked about that happening.
Thank you for a great solution!

yes of course, I like the look of it too
How long have you had the watch since you did this? Is there any signs of corrosion on the exposed Aluminium?
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Once you have bumped the outer bezel into an outer object, hard enough to expose the metal under the paint, the is no going back either. But at least, there is a way to move forward .
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I did the operation on January 2nd (when I posted on the forum ). One full week passed since then .. no signs on the metal surface whatsoever (expected, it's aluminum and this does not corrode).
Here is a photo from today.

ro_explorer said:
I saw a few guys complaining about the scratched/bumped bezel which looks ugly because the paint will reveal the metal underneath.
Well, I also damaged my watch by accidentally hitting it . Permanent markers are not a good solution because they do not last.
Apparently the bezel is made out of aluminium and only the watch body is made out of steel, that why, maybe, the bezel is less resistant.
Last evening though, an idea came to my mind, which I also applied on the watch. The result is promising .
Using some fine sandpaper (600) and some real paper after that, I completely removed the paint from the top of the bezel.
As a technique, I laid the sandpaper on a flat surface (table) and then I pressed the watch on it while rubbing it. After the paint was completely removed, I did the same operation but using a regular sheet of paper (to add a nice finish on the metal surface).
Please be careful: you have to press the watch against the sandpaper (laid on a flat, hard surface), not the other way around. In this way you leave no room for mistakes and the revealed metal will be uniform and nice, w/o weird edges.
This is the result.
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I've had my watch for a little over a week and don't recall hitting it against anything but this morning noticed my bezel has a scratch longer than half an inch. Doing a Google search brought me here.
I was going to try your method today. I understand using the 600 grit sandpaper to remove the rest of the paint from the bezel but how does the regular paper help the finish? My uneducated guess would have been to try a finer grit sandpaper such as 1200 instead of the paper.

You can use whatever finer than 600 you have (even coarser but you may risk it going coarser that that).
Unfortunately, 600 was the finest I had in house at the moment that why I used id. After that though, the metal finish was matte, missing that fine polishing .... there is where the regular paper got into action. If you use a regular laser printer paper sheet, it will act as a very very fine sandpaper, enough to give that fine polishing on the pure metal (aluminium in this case - soft metal, no other reason.

ro_explorer said:
You can use whatever finer than 600 you have (even coarser but you may risk it going coarser that that).
Unfortunately, 600 was the finest I had in house at the moment that why I used id. After that though, the metal finish was matte, missing that fine polishing .... there is where the regular paper got into action. If you use a regular laser printer paper sheet, it will act as a very very fine sandpaper, enough to give that fine polishing on the pure metal (aluminium in this case - soft metal, no other reason.
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You sir are a genius - your solution actually makes the watch look better than before the problem.

dzyuba said:
You sir are a genius - your solution actually makes the watch look better than before the problem.
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Please tell us what did you do exactly to the watch, step by step. Thanks.
My request to any other people who want to adopt this method, please record a video of the process. Then upload it to youtube and share it with us. Thanks.

The entire process that I used is described in detail in the first post of this thread.
There is also the possibility to use a nail file (there are some guys who did that and the results are quite nice as well).

Guys,
This looks fantastic. Perhaps even better than stock. I've got a 1/4" scratch, so not quite ready to take the plunge...but certainly thinking about it.
-Doc

I should probably post this here also. I managed to ding up my watch pretty badly crashing my skateboard, and a user suggested I try this method. I did it a little differently by finishing with a 3000 grit and using metal polish cream on the exposed metal to give it a nice shine. Here are before and after pictures.

The metal polish is definitely adding a nice touch. Thanks for the info.
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